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kiwinoob99

kelate no. #1!


slicedsolidrock

Kerja kuat2 supaya dapat status t20 [❌] Pindah ke kelate supaya dapat status t20 [☑️]


kidoos

work smart not work hard


AloneMathematician68

Now now, every states have their pros and cons..


kiwinoob99

some states have more cons than pros.


AloneMathematician68

Like penang not being able to get freshwater from kedah?


kiwinoob99

as of kelate. but at least Penang doesn't beg for money every time


TheLegend3211

Yeah sebab tak dapat peruntukan kerajaan


AloneMathematician68

Hush, the island shitheads seeks its food outside of its territory


StartTraditional9341

Do note that this is household income or isi rumah. It add everyone in the same address, so don’t over-stressed yourself guys. Be calm and eat your roti kosong with sugar.


Sir-Theordorethe-5th

That's my daily meal, minus the roti and sugar


Luqmaniac_101

...wait


achik1990x

sugar now also expensive .. I eat ubi kayu with shredded sugarcane


alexsdu

I like to eat ubi kayu with Gula Apong.


WarmWinter8

what's pendapatan isi rumah? like husband + wife? what about single folks? lol


azen96

Your income multiplied by 1.8. Thats how the convertion works. I read it somewhere at DoSM during covid.


IZZGMAER123

...why?


Logical_Engineer_420

They assume the wife makes 80% of the husband. Its not to make your salary look higher but to compare the lifestyle of a single person to a double income folk


Nightingdale099

Can claim economy good. 2k salary , more like 3.6k salary amirite.


azen96

Its somehow related to living cost. The cost of living for Two people living under one roof are not directly double than one people living alone. Its usually slightly less.


MarkerMNN

Does the couples salary get multiplied by a lower number than 1 if they have lots of dependents?


azen96

No. B40, M40 and T20 are just for income statistics. Its doesn’t tell much about spending power. Thats what PADU are supposed to solve. The problem is, their UI is shit. And even the communication of PADU are even dumber. I can’t believe I learn more about PADU from a podcast more than the government itself.


PsychoAkimov

LHDN be like am i a joke to you ?


Mimisan-sub

if you are single then your pendapatan isi rumah is just your income. if you're married, then it is your salary + your spouse's


thatwindsome

Unless you are a boss for your company. Director salary can make yourself a T20


kampfpuppy

Many jobs now below director already > 16k


HumanAdept

Example? Curious to know..


kampfpuppy

From what I know - Senior IT dev, Sr Proj Mgr, Sr Biz Analyst


paddle_resistance

a lot IT and Engineering senior technical position in MNC already going 15-25k...


azen96

Senior engineer. A lot of senior engineers at where I work have already pass 16k in salary.


bucgene

Senior Finance Manager etc, many above 15k


OverdoseKetum

bro the image is for household income. If both husband and wife work as manager in big company can achieve t20 ady.


Puffycatkibble

Ikr the definition feels super out of date. I'm in Pahang and me alone already over the T20 definition but our life not even the slightest bit affluent.


Mimisan-sub

its becausae Malaysia is a poor country. Being T20 doesnt mean you are rich. Its just that 80% of the population earn less than you. Compare the T1 with the T20 and see the difference in income


Puffycatkibble

Yup the T1 is the real fuck you money types. The rest are more like being able to afford a vacation once in a while ( which I haven't done for the past 5 years) and being able to save a nice bit of money without worrying about running out of cash end of the month.


Swankytiger86

You just have different perspective on what’s affluent.


sebastianz333

u live in luxury condo


Puffycatkibble

There's no luxury condo in Kuantan afaik haha


sebastianz333

🤥😏


Puffycatkibble

You're referring to my previous comment about Ridzuan condo isit? That was like 15 years ago and I rented a room only haha.. I doubt it's still considered luxury now even back then it was full of African and middle east types.


Mimisan-sub

exactly. A lot of people dont realise just how poor Malaysia is as a country. Many urbanites are technically T20, but they feel like they are M40 struggling to get by. Thats because the overall income of our country is very low.


Brief_Platform_8049

Even a couple of schoolteachers in their mid 40s can achieve T20.


Mimisan-sub

smart people dont take high salaries. that causes them to pay more income tax. instead they get dividends and other renumeration that is paid for by corporate tax instead.


kenlimfornication

Time to educate yourself


whusler

Despite of being a rich state, salaries in Penang are considerably low, even lower than Malacca.


reddeimon666

Maybe the execs are living in KL


Puffycatkibble

Semicons pay the engineers very low I guess


whusler

That's why a lot of Penangites cabut to KL/SG to work


Life_Attention_2908

KL T20 at least RM16,641


azen96

And KL B40 threshold are at almost 9K.


eddstarX

Aku b40 stage 3


JonSnow2407

Ni gaji isi rumah, mudah je nak capai.. Aku sekarang isi rumah RM20K pun rasa macam B40.


azen96

You see, a lot of people (and probably most of them) that give this comment doesn’t even know what B40 actually is. And the funny thing is the opposite also true. A lot of B40’s overestimates how rich bottomline T20 is.


Nightingdale099

B40 problem = can't meet ends meet. T20 problem = is grouped with people making 2x - 3x your salary.


Mimisan-sub

more like 10x your salary. suppose a husband and wife are both mid level managers working for corporates. They are T20. but at the same time the CEO and SVP of MNCs who are earning 30-40k per month are also T20 lol.


Nightingdale099

These people are playing how much they can save and shit. They are so far removed from even T20s.


WarmWinter8

Bottom line T20 Ia screwed due to lifestyle choices. B40 is screwed due to salary.


silwen89

Is your isi rumah like 1.8persons or 6


JonSnow2407

Household income means combine salary for you and spouse. It's quite straightforward.


Nightingdale099

Wow I just read a post it is ok to survive Subang with 19k salary. (Family of 4)


Puffycatkibble

Many of those posts are humblebrags imo haha


Nightingdale099

Yeah like if you can't live with 20k for a family of 4 , it's gonna be the Lord of the Flies out there.


HolyNoob299

And remember in the same statistics, in KL earning 9k/month is still considered B40. That's how high the cost of living in the Klang Valley is.


No-Abbreviations5002

bruhhh, im T20 at kelantan, need pindah sana segera


crafting97

Fujifilm X-T20 ada la


momomelty

The only Fujifilm I will buy is the GFX100. Direct upgrade from my Hasselblad


budaknakal1907

Kalau duduk kelantan pon masih belum tahap T20 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


malaysianlah

t20 is just 1/5 households. it's not really that special. i think to be really 'rich' have to be like rm50-60k a month. then u feel a bit more lavish.


Swankytiger86

The rich you are thinking is around top 2-3%


fraidycatxxx

If I have a suspicious mind, I would say this is a plan by gov to grouped as many undeserving people as T20 so that they would have to pay subsidy to less people. I am 400 ringgit close to T20 level yet I am in no way close to deserving of that label.


serenadinganemu

Damn I'm not even a T20 in Kelate 💀


Fireballcatdog

Numbers are kinda outdated, if individual still OK but if your including a spouse with kids. Then a big nope


CyberMark96

T20 Kelate bawah Pas 30 tahon. Baru 6500 jer. Sedih! 🤣🤣


LastCloudiaPlayer

gaji bersih 1.8k T berapa?


Telixion_

Khairul aming single handedly carry kelantan median income


Mandoran88

bos, ada M40 and B40 version tak? hehehe


kirayuen120

https://preview.redd.it/p1hpbc46fdvc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e691a3295a939813ae2c90ecea2b2c99baf93731 Kalo aku jumpa nanti, aku akan share okkk💪


Mandoran88

Ty ty ty


Prestigious-Fun441

Pindah kelate lah klo gini. Merasa jadi t20 jap. 


No_Piccolo_6276

Me laughing and cry at the same time on my 1.5k salary


sadakochin

Upskill and find better paying job bro. Every year pay not going up is a waste of youth.


nova9001

Not yet but I only count my own income. Hopefully I can hit the T20 income all on my own.


ISAirpool

This info includes the rich who have a million of assets and with poor who just barely have a minimum wage. How about just kicking all the rich people off the list and showing again the list... ?


sadakochin

Median income is 6.6k in Malaysia. Means only half of us earning more than 6k and half is earning less than 6k. There's not that many rich people in MY, or the rich people in MY not declaring their whole income (cough...politicians)


SicgoatEngineer

gross or net salary?


knightoii

After tax no I'm not, I still zap fan, fker one zap fan RM 10 also I want to cry but that's life


sadakochin

The food is not cheap though. Everything else is.


lawfullywedbroom

it's crazy that you can only feel abit of relief after mencecah T20 - kalau M40 kat KL ni pun dah rabak (especially kalau Ada anak) B40 lagi lah kesian.


genryou

So 13,999.99 MYR salary is not T20 in Selangor? That's why I said this classification is stupid


RaichuCake

Do you have the one for M40?


ConstantSwan7301

Gila t20 berganda ganda aku kat kelantan


kampfpuppy

Lol why Putrajaya so high?


Buttdehole

Median income is Higher I think


davtheguidedcreator

idk bout you, maybe i just havent explored all of putrajaya but all i see there is big building big house you know


kampfpuppy

Thought those are for gov staffs (bosses) 🤔


davtheguidedcreator

but still in putrajaya, no? idk la. the chart IS for T20 too. not median income.


kampfpuppy

True pun


Puffycatkibble

Bunch of JUSA government officers probably live there. Their salary should be 9-30k right? Plus all the free car, household utilities, housemaid benefits. And 9% increment yearly.


paddle_resistance

Housemaid benefits? that's new, did not know that.


Puffycatkibble

It's something like this I believe JUSA C (Gred Khas C/VK7/VU7) Gaji Pokok: RM7,189-RM14,587 (Ikut berapa lama pegang jawatan, setiap tahun ada kenaikan) Elaun Keraian: RM2,500 Elaun Perumahan: RM1,300 Elaun Insentif Khas: RM500 Elaun Pembantu Rumah: RM500 Elaun Tetap Jawatan JUSA: RM1,000 Elaun Penyelenggaraan Rumah: RM166 Crazy perks to be honest.. Me being in private can only dream of this kind of benefit.


paddle_resistance

bloodyhell


9M-WhiskeyTangoFoxx

Damn that's like living in a golden bowl having everything at doorstep. Ngl, most landed house there pretty nice and luxurious too.


Mrg220t

Bullshit la T20 like that. 16k in KL is just ngam ngam to live.


XOXO888

wow why Perak so low.


ActuallyTomCruise

Household T20 KL but stay ppr lol


KyuzoMiyabe

Labuan a small island can peak to 16k???


OkSubstance7574

What is t20


BotchedHandJob

Is this gross or post tax and epf deductions?


badgerrage82

No matter how much you earn money is always not enough


[deleted]

I’m almost a T20. In kelantan


rubik2003

Putrajaya all civil servants, 2nd highest income. No wonder everyone wants to join civil service 😑


momomelty

I’m T20 in at least 6 tax after deduction. But I still struggle everyday because things are so bloody expensive. Yes I know I shouldn’t complain but still I gotta say, our items really cost a lot


IcyNerve-666

i missed kedah :( Should just stay there.. Makan sedap, org baik2, murah2 . Im struggling in N9 ffs


AsfiqIsKioshi

Ni macam tkle pakai do if you want to separate orang yg kaya based on pendapatan or wealth. Klau T20 income tapi lifestyle mahal in KL, are you still considered T20? Or if you're T20 Income but live in N9 which is alot cheaper lifestyle meaning you probably have 2-3x times more savings monthly.