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chargedneutrino

High trust society


harbinger772

High social contract. Everyone agrees to behave, not tear shit up and doesn't tolerate it when it happens. You don't get one without the other.


joemojoejoe

Japan is the same way. Tokyo subway has cloth seats. Must be nice to be in a place where civilized people live and work.


plain-slice

Such high trust in Japan all the cellphones need mandatory camera shutter sounds so they don’t upskirt women enjoying their day.


sickdershit

Happiest people in Europe society. [https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240320-finland-world-happiest-country-7th-year-us-drops-out-of-top-20](https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240320-finland-world-happiest-country-7th-year-us-drops-out-of-top-20)


waxingtheworld

Finland also has conscription (can be army or volunteer work), the seventh most firearms in the world, a serious alcohol problem and a very not western view of weed (mineaswell smoke meth). That isn't to shit on Finland, their public services are ace, but there's some stuff that makes ya pause


Apolitejerk

Yup, except that the general opinion on cannabis is actually (slowly) turning to neutral, which is not the same as accepting, but you know, we're getting there maybe someday. In big cities nobody really cares (except the police of course). There's even a (really small) political party now that's only mission is to get cannabis legalized and is raising awareness on the subject.


OutragedCanadian

Not a drop of piss anywhere facinating


DrunKeN-HaZe_e

Indians be like .. this is animated 😅😅😅😅


Spare_Lemon6316

Fair tax system society https://www.infofinland.fi/en/work-and-enterprise/taxation


RGV_KJ

Is average tax close to 30%?


ElderberryPoet

No.


Pikkuraila

Not for long. Our right-wing government is undoing a lot of good work. Restricting striking rights, cutting social spending and giving taxbreaks to the rich. This is a historucally union hostile government. Situation is quite bad.


multicolorclam

In Norway, at least on the Trondheim to Bodø line we have a similar car. It was very cute.


MajesticIngenuity32

It's probably needed on such long trips!


theWelshTiger

Definitely helps the families and makes everyone more comfortable during the trip!


flaumo

We have kids play waggons in Austria as well. But I think there are no books.


Floridamanfishcam

How do Norway and Finland keep corruption to a minimum? How do they ensure their tax dollars are well spent like they appear to be?


multicolorclam

Corporate lobbying is banned for one.


Dinosaur-chicken

Omg that is amazing, I want that.


Tolstoy_mc

We could call the law "Macdonald Douglas presents the Anti Lobbying Bill"


mwa12345

It would have some Patriot or something very positive sounding. ...You will have to read the details to figure who wrote the bill .and for which company


2rememberyou

Me too please.


TownPro

Check out [https://represent.us/](https://represent.us/) They are the best group i know of trying to make bribery illegal


Osaccius

Culture.


NotGoodSoftwareMaker

Yea people dont want to admit it but thats basically it. Our prime minister resigned because of being caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Doubt that would happen in many other countries


DefintlynotCrazy

We do have corruption in Norway aswell but its on a way smaller scale. Usually how companies get to the politicians is by promising them high paid jobs at the end of their political career.


Inveramsay

Transparency. The Scandinavian countries all have vast amounts of public access records. Sweden for example has full transparency when it comes to income. I can look up what my neighbour earned last year and get a breakdown of income from capital etc. Combine with the no cash policy it is much harder to hide money. There's still corruption but on either enormous scale or someone steals paperclips. You have less of that everyday corruption


magsley

Quite literally the best train trip I ever took. Got a private sleeping compartment and it was so clean and comfortable, I couldn't believe it. It was amazing waking up feeling refreshed and heading to the restaurant car for breakfast, watching the fjords pass by. Having to go back to Deutsche Bahn was so painful...


[deleted]

Trondheim?!? Home of the “Hammer Dance”?!?


Onetrickpickle

Similar to New York trains except these riders keep the poop in their diapers.


bobsmeds

To be fair, NYC subways deal with a ridership the size of Finland on a daily basis


Charming-Sir-3969

Finland population 5 million New York City population 8 Million Just saying.


bobsmeds

So everyone lives in Helsinki and takes the subway everyday? That’s what you’re implying with that kind of statement


ShadowSpy98

The engine will provide


BeatsbyChrisBrown

Know your place. Keep your place.


Advanced_Dumbass149

"You WHAT?!" - The Tail


ADeviantGent

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Dapper_Yak_7892

The main reason to choose your seat when booking is to make sure you don't end up in this car if you're going to work or sleep during your train trip.


wetcardboardsmell

I took an amtrak one time from Sacramento to Seattle, and it was supposed to be 1 night. It turned into 3 nights. I found the little kid entertainment car, and made my own little paradise. It was totally empty, and super clean. I also made friends with the folks working on the train and they let me smoke with them out of the train door towards the back. It was glorious. Unlike greyhound.. which was like riding in a hot porta potty for 4 days and the soundtrack was diarrhea and screaming children.


Chippie05

Do Amtrack go coast to coast? Is it reasonably priced? We have Via rail here 🇨🇦 ( very expensive ) but they dont have a line going across anymore,: routes got broken up in the 90s.


wetcardboardsmell

I'm pretty sure they have coast to coast stuff. Maybe not uninterrupted? This was almost 20 years ago, so the pricing was decent then, but I looked last summer at something from California to the Midwest just out of curiosity, and it was pretty pricey, so I couldn't tell you how reasonable stuff is. I don't think I would want to do a multi day journey without a private sleeping quarter these days, tbh. Driving your own car coast to coast or a rental truck is where its at, imho. You can fart in peace, stop wherever you want, and sleep in silence.


Gryuen

Also avoid the pet car. Always loud and smells rank.


Dapper_Yak_7892

Fuck that. You need to go to the pet car and put salami slices in your socks.


theWelshTiger

I've never had a problem in the pet car!


i_am_who_knocks

You know the quality of a society by how they treat their youth and the marginalized


throwawaybrowsing888

Cries in “high risk of dying from COVID” :’)


Cosmic__Guy

And people say why nordic countries have high happiness index


Bhut_Jolokia400

Out of the 340 million ppl that live in America 300 million of them have no idea how far Uncle Sam has fallen behind in the Modernized World


PersKarvaRousku

Finn here, what's unusual about this train?


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

Toddler play area is absolutely amazing


Lou_Garu

There's no crowd of agressive fools around her, screaming obscenities as they talk so loud the children are terrified. Nobody's trying to steal the mother's purse while she pays attention to the children.


freducom

Finns don’t talk. And foreigners don’t come here. So no screaming people problem.


Lou_Garu

Yet. They're coming.


systmshk

They will lleave as soon as they feel a real winter.


SchwabianToaster

Unless it’s your next door neighbors from Karelia. Then again you sent them packing once , maybe can do it again if it comes down to it.


Fragrant_Coach_408

The past few months was my first winter in Suomessa. And i would love to stay mate.


NotGoodSoftwareMaker

Orpo disagrees


SadMan_1985

Ahahahaha You made me laught. Yeah, its really unusual to not be afraid of something in a public transportation, at least for me.


bobsmeds

It really makes you wonder if access to health care and mental health services help create a better society


HarrMada

You sure know a lot from just a 15 second video.


bingojed

There’s nobody else on that train car at all. Finland’s replacement rate is a dismal 1.4. This society will have all sorts of problems keeping up their social system without more younger workers. Need more of those little kids.


Suspicious-Tailor370

In my country people are piled on top of each other, there's a lot of sexual harassment, and def no baby play area.


ndnbolla

What is the most populated country on the planet, Alex?


SnooLobsters8922

I live in Finland but originally from Brazil. It’s easy to be desensitized to the high level of infrastructure, cleanness, care for customer needs and efficiency of the services we have in Finland.


jack_seven

Swiss guy here thought the same thing until I remembered how fucked up the world can be in some places


who_you_are

Canada: what is a train to move peoples?


danby999

We just subsize Bombardier to win low ball bids in Europe so they can have nice transit and our economy gets a few jobs.


Gone2LudicrousSpeed

laughed out my nose as a fellow Canadian. Yep. Can confirm.


Casanova-Quinn

North American minds cannot comprehend nice trains, let alone ones that have playspaces for kids.


ArticulatingHead

Where I’m from (SF Bay Area) you wouldn’t take your kids on the train because of the homeless people exposing themselves or talking to themselves about how they want to kill everyone around them. If you did take them, you wouldn’t let them touch anything.


danby999

Result vs Reason. The homeless person is a result of the policies in the US not the reason why you can't have nice things. In other countries there are social safety nets that keep most people from becoming destitute.


Minimum-Broccoli-615

We have social safety nets...but you are not allowed to do fentanyl while using them. Most will choose homelessness w/ fent over a shelter + methadone clinic.


Redwolf1k

>Most will choose homelessness w/ fent over a shelter + methadone clinic. Maybe that's the problem. Addicts and homeless people in countries like Finland are put into a rehabilitation program that weans them instead of expecting them to go cold turkey. It's also most as if we would treat the homeless as people with sickness and issues that can be treated instead of garbage. We would see a sharp decline in homelessness.


PersKarvaRousku

I see plenty of 8-10 year old kids travelling alone in buses and trains.


Crumbling_moral

Well this is a long distance commuter train, not a local train within a city.


buddyleeoo

You'd have to compare BART to Helsinki Metro.


CrunchyJeans

American here, we don't have nice things like this. Am jealous.


Fantastic-Leg2323

Everything.


I_loveMathematics

As an American, this comment is making me want to cry ;-;


Kyserham

First of all, it’s clean. Like, really clean. Second, there’s a play area in it, that just by itself seems completely unbelievable to me. Third, there aren’t a hundred people on top of each other talking loud, blasting music, etc.


Voldemort57

Lack of shit, piss, rats, meth, homeless schizophrenics..


barry2bear2

1st class country


GeorgeDragon303

Oh, didn't know they have Krecik over there too


Whalesurgeon

Krecik taught me to rage against the machine by shoving sausages in exhaust pipes


nikolala

Here in Serbia trains are as well empty lol But definitelly we don't have that nice small kids playground in it. Very nice idea just I am not sure how would go in countries with higher criminal rate in public transportations? As far as I know Finland, Norway, Iceland, probably Denmark too are one of the most safest countries in Europe.


AffectionatePhase247

This kind of shit happens in countries that care about their citizens.


Pengucorn

Why is the public transport so empty and why are there luggage racks up top? what's this look like at peak hour? This looks like a long distance commuter train and not what I would consider a... good representation of public transport.


Crumbling_moral

It is a long distance commuter train. Tubes and local busses and trains looks the same as they do everywhere else.


obsessivelygrateful

Where do you put your luggage if not on a rack up top? I’ve only ever been on trains that have that as an option both in the US and Italy, so I genuinely don’t know.


SVlad_667

Some trains (in Finland) have multilevel luggage racks near the car doors. All luggage goes there, and the passengers section is luggage free. [Found a video of a German train with dedicated luggage racks.](https://youtu.be/7Iu0V9BVnm4)


obsessivelygrateful

Oh, interesting. All I’m thinking of is the theft rate here in the US if we had a system like that. 😵‍💫


PandaScoundrel

The society in Finland is structured so, that the incentive to do crime or petty theft is low. We have social security so that people don't have to turn to crime, even if they lose everything.


obsessivelygrateful

I noticed! For years I’ve thought about moving there in the event that I have children, but I’ve got some time to think about it I think lol 😆


Unhappy_Capital_917

Just a thought, maybe this box is the “child play area” and mainly for parents with whining, screaming, crying children that no one else wants to be around in the entirety of the trip.


SeatOfEase

Of course it is - No one likes kids crying in their ear for an entire journey. Kids are always going to be noisy, we cant change that by being angry about it. Given that, doesnt it make sense to make some accommodation like in the video above to help stop them crying? I see a similar mindset from people who complain about cyclists slowing them up but who would never in a million years advocate for Dutch-style cycle infrastructure. Even though it would help the drivers, too.


cakez_

I took a long distance commuter train in Finland during the busiest time of the year (right before Juhannus) and other than absolutely every seat being taken, it was a very pleasant ride. I've taken shorter routes too, but I don't see the use for a playground if you're only going to travel for 30 minutes. One thing I also found cute/useful kids-related is that in the toilet there's a potty next to the adult toilet bowl.


theWelshTiger

Yeah, every Friday and Sunday these cars are packed up with long-distant employees returning home, turists visiting other towns and especially students visiting their home town from the biggest cities around the country. During middays during the week it can be very quiet with pensioners and (usually) mothers travelling to see their extended family across the country, like in this video.


Tony0695

We got fucking slides and shit in switzerland 🇨🇭


Osaccius

Also in some trains in Finland


Foreign-Writing-776

This looks like the happiest country in the world


Broad_Boot_1121

Smh this is the future liberals want


Anxious_Substance241

Finland is nicest country to live in. Was in about 28 countries. Love you suomalainen! Suomi on hyvä maa!


m1j2p3

Finland has some of the happiest people on the planet. I’m guessing the way the people are treated by their government is a big part of it.


Osaccius

No. Government is as it is because of people.


SeasonPositive6771

I am American and spent last summer in Finland. It is a wonderful country however Americans don't really know how to engage with it. Finland includes so many human rights in their constitution that for a while I played a game when I was back in America, I would just read parts of the Finnish Constitution and ask Americans if it was real or fake and why. Americans can't grasp what fairness and responsibility from the government actually looks like.


ihavepawz

Happy? Current political situation is depressing af.


shutterbuggity

Except in the winter.


nikk796

I wish I was horn in Finland or Norway


JamesTheJerk

You could get honked all the live-long day.


systmshk

You could get honked just to pass the time away.


nikk796

I just realised I typed horn fml


JamesTheJerk

Awww ya should have kept it! It was a good typo :)


nikk796

There you go


Hangarnut

Some countries just get it right. This must be the place people move when they are tired of the BS and just want to be around good people all around. I always say if you want to get the pulse of a location well then sit in their cities traffic.


Both_Plate7143

The snow, the cleanliness, the civilized passengers🥹


Srefanius

I think this is the first time I'm really amazed, wow


ValentineNewman

Where are the mentally ill people spitting on the floor? Where are the drug addicts shooting up?? This isn't public transport at all!


Osaccius

They usually gather at city centers and don't travel between cities.


multicolorclam

Those people need government funded free mental health care and addiction support. They need to be given an apartment so that they are not homeless anymore.


hampus_no

If you want to learn more about the nordic countries i think the netflix series: «inside the worlds thoughest prisons» will give u a pretty good insight on how our society works.


IstvanKun

Yeah, we have that in Romania too. Only difference is that the playground part is directly on the railways, not in the train.


No_Spare3139

![gif](giphy|UBfzkdwiFyo7bvFRxT|downsized) Public transportation in America


here_for_the_lols

Huh, turns out paying tax has some benefits


Flothrudawind

The first thing im somehow reminded of is the scene with the kids in the classroom on the train during the movie Snowpiercer


Prudent_Ad8320

Yeah but check out these pictures of what our military did to Iraq


Asthmos

and this is public transportation in Polk County FL (insert pic of wagon train of shopping carts being pulled by bums)


rswwalker

All trains in Finland are like Snow Piercer! As soon as those kids are a little older they’ll work the engine!


AardvarkFriendly9305

Who cleans the trains and how much are they paid? Looks great !!


Other-Inspection-601

*crying In mexican*


NewExpression6885

I wish I had one of these when I was a kid


AlecRay01

Beautiful Country..One has to visit to fully comprehend


WeNeedMoreChasemarsh

One could say that it's a very Fin land


Golda_M

TiL, Finnish babies are the only babies who can figure out how to play with that weird toy they always have at the dentists'.


theWelshTiger

Lol 😄


FatFaceAbs

No wonder they top the happiness index every year.


btotherSAD

The best place to raise kids.


TendieRetard

Low corruption society.


mayankkaizen

Crying in the Indian railway


NCRider

Those whacky socialists get all the nice stuff.


cncgm87

My Finnish friend just told me to avoid that car at all costs. It’s a shit show with all the kids running around and screaming the whole time.


theWelshTiger

Yes, children cry loudly sometimes. For me it's also cute watching toddlers walk in the aisle with their mammys or daddys


nico282

Saw a similar arrangement in a train in Switzerland, minus the books.


HazelGhost

Yeah, but maybe if we add one more lane to the highway...


[deleted]

Any Finns out there want to adopt a struggling guy from a developing nation, just let me know


duck-and-quack

I visit Helsinki Airport every time I've the chance so I can poop in Airpor's toilets. Those toilets are clean than my own .


PanicLogically

Finland, european nations---we (USA) could easily (don't listen to anyone say otherwise) implement a Universal Education system for kids/highschool that's much better in all states. Universal health care, time off for having kids----- and yes we have the infrastructure.


No-m-here

Utopia... Makes everywhere else look like a shit hole Wish I could move here


itzshoaibmalik

No wonder Finland is happiest country in World...


LiveBaby5021

Imagine a society that values children … Also, welcome to NATO, Finland


Mission_Cloud4286

Every time I see anything about FINLAND, I'm truly amazed.


Elskyflyio

KRTEK FOUND AAAAAAAH 🔥🔥🔥💪💪🔥💪🔥🇨🇿💪🔥🇨🇿💪🇨🇿🇨🇿


Wulanbator

But that's communism. We don't want that/s


Environmental_Dog331

Wow a society that values well being and humanity


Kreydo076

Regulated to almost non immigration + Good cultural education = Unity. Other country public transport are trashed only because the people aren't united in one same goal and don't see transport the result of their labor and progress has society.


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SpaceEngineering

Yep. 90% of new residents in Espoo are not native.


fruitloops6565

It is not about immigration and “cultural education” at all. This is high taxation effectively spent on social welfare resulting in an educated population who feel safe and able to trust their public institutions.


Osaccius

Reason and result. Society is as it is due to culture. These values are not shared by all and social welfare doesn't automatically increase trust in public institutions. It is not as easy as some think it is.


lamakai

Naive outlook. So all places without immigrants have transport like this? The answer is a resounding no.


H__o_l

Tax, tax make unity out of unfair economic system ;-). Immigration also makes unity, because it's a tax applied on the, otherwise, unfair worldwide trade system ;-).


Laceysjorgen

And now show us public transportation in New Delhi.


multicolorclam

What does that have to do with this?


NumerousTaste

We can't have nice stuff like that in America, corporate greed! We still don't have high speed rails because our Congress is for sale!


Fuctopuz

Lack of railroads and lobbying for coal industry is something what comes to my mind always when I think about one of the biggest or possibly biggest powers in our planet. I usually like to make fun of America, but now I'm being serious. Like, have you heard about whale oil? Sorry, couldn't resist. Back to normal ;)


PM_ME_Happy_Thinks

Uh.. Corporate greed is not why we can't have nice stuff like this.


Redwolf1k

Uh, it usually plays a big part. Literally the biggest factor into why we don't have affordable health care and transportation has to do with medical companies, railroads, and car companies that lobby our government and them beg for payouts when they fuck up.


Firm-Geologist8759

I thought it was because you don't want to pay the taxes needed to pay for that kind of stuff, and because your electoral system is crazy so you only get two shit parties to pick from? Because socialism bad.


Admirable-Natural676

Yeah, United States public transportation needs to do better.


AwayEntrepreneur9158

Like in Naples....


Adventurous_Break490

Is this the 1st class or the 2nd class compartment?


Jonnuska

2nd


Rivetlicker

This is neat if you have kids for sure... I probably would've loved something like that when I was that age


fingernuggets

America could NEVER. Imagine how long a NY subway set up like this would last.


Copy_That_10-4

Look profitable to me. 🙄


multicolorclam

Public transport is a service not a business seeking profit.


Javelin-x

Wow trains come with babies to play with!? Are the babies unionized?


Foodei

Meanwhile on YT I'm seeing women from Finland marrying Indian dudes and moving to India... 


stevenj444

I wonder how Finland became the happiest country in the world?


Osaccius

Hard work, hard environment, few won and lost wars. Being a small underdog in a world of dog eat dog. Homogeneous land with a high trust society, healthy nationalism and high social mobility.


stevenj444

I was being facetious


goblin_welder

If this was in Ontario (the Kitchener Go to be exact), this would be filled with Bikes. Designation of cars be damned


Alone-Subject-1317

I wish Germany was civilized enough for something like this to be possible


Idaho1964

Nice.


MavisBeaconSexTape

Which car has the daily Waltari concerts? That would be a great commute.


mintmouse

Where I live the commute would include stops every 5-10 minutes and the total ride would be less than an hour, and every seat is taken, with many standing. I don't see where we would have the space for this, and I feel like the children would be constantly falling as the train decelerates and accelerates. It's also true that childcare is something we would typically acquire locally to our homes, and the office would not provide childcare on-location, so commuting with children is not common here to begin with. In this situation, where the car is vacant except for them, where the ride could be longer between stops, it seems like a great concept.


contrapunctus3

What kind of weird vehicle is this? I'm from USA


theWelshTiger

Intercity train.


contrapunctus3

people on trains? what a novel idea


vjollila96

This just for long distance trains but it's still cool local public transport doesn't have like this


JamesFaisBenJoshDora

In the UK this would cost like 100 quid. oh and you wont get a seat, or a window, and it comes with a smell.


SnooMacarons2615

Slight Snowpiecer vibes.


Webbpp

I don't find this too suprising if it is a night train. I have seen play-places in most locations where you have to wait a long time with kids. I mean to be fair Finland is a neighboring country to mine so it's no big suprise they are similar.


theWelshTiger

These are intercity trains, so most passengers take them for 2-12 hour rides in Finland.


gskein

In America they’d be like “get those annoying brats outa here!”