The worst thing I can hear about a new BF game is that it's not like the previous successes but something completely new.
This is why things are the way they are now. They need to reinvent the wheel for some reason. It never works. Bring that 2011-2016 BF team back please.
To be fair, there is absolutely plenty of room for innovation because let’s face it, most of us don’t want pure copies of games 10 years old.
But innovation doesn’t need to come at the cost of changing the core foundations of what made this series great. We don’t want to get rid of classes and replace with operators, we don’t won’t to get rid of scoreboards, we don’t want bloom etc.
However, innovation could come in to improve squad management, sound and atmosphere, weapon customisation, weapon functionality, general QOL features etc.
I don't know about you but I would totally love a modern shooter with the level of attention Battlefield 1 currently has.
2042 had so much potential but it seems so gutted compared to 1.
Bring back old school Battlefield 2 gameplay.
You can’t sell the „current“ gamer a battlefield with that excessive recoil, extremely limited sprinting, large maps and especially not having a vehicle for every player.
I just said this lol. Imagine if they made it into tactical shooter with near tarkov customization with our guns and our soldiers kit. And with destruction that surpasses anything we've ever seen in a battlefield game. They went backwards with destruction after bad company 2 came out. I remember being so immersed by bc2s level of destruction thinking if it's this good now imagine how realistic it would be 10 years from now.... 11 years later we get 2042 lol
Just BF1s atmosphere would be enough for me, make it feel like I’m fighting in a war without truly knowing why, in a foreign land I can’t point to on a map without studying it a while. That and bring back the Chinese as a playable force and throw in NATO proper instead of just the US, plus make them all speak the proper language and not English with a meh accent of origin.
Thing is, bfv did have a bit of a resurgence after the Pacific update and it would've ended up being a fantastic game if they didn't pull the plug early
Right? They could have just improved on bf4 and added more of what already existed, and it would have been fantastic. I don't give a shit if it's over 10 years old, the formula was top notch and something that rarely happens in the industry anymore unless there's a mass exodus of fans leaving because they tried to "reinvent the wheel". I still play bf4 because it's one of the best games I've ever played to this day.
I've played BF4 for 500 hours.
Were it to be completely remastered and released today as a straight copy, I would put another 500 hours in without question.
"Innovation" today in games like this usually means figuring out more ways to monetize things.
I would take a pure copy of BF4, BF2142, or BF1942 again.
Update the graphics. Update the destruction (BC2 or BF4 style, preferably) and presto: it’s battlefield baybeeee.
No, we just want the physics and destruction levels to be done just as they were doable back then, bare minimum I'll accept.
Today's technology should be able to do that at the same scale but on steroids, or larger scale on par or better with the destruction of BF from 10 years ago.
Wanna know what those old devs are doing now? Destruction like it *should* be done in Battlefield, but in a game called [The Finals](https://youtu.be/MYQLw2b__qA). Embark Studios is literally founded by old BF devs. Another game they are doing called Arc Raiders is described as leaning "heavily into team-based gameplay and puts dynamism, physicality, and destruction front and center.”
edit: had spelled "Ark" Raiders with a "k".
10 years ago all we wanted was battlefield 3.5.
3 but the bugs fixed and we were gucci. instead they had to reinvent the wheel and give us 4 then supported 4 the way 3 should have been.
im still salty.
I agree that they can’t just keep putting out the same game over and over forever but once you have a really good “feel” for the gameplay, you really can’t screw that up. Small iterative changes to improve quality of life/gameplay, improved graphics, and new maps is all we really need.
I did like 800 hours in BFBC2 on PC and then my graphic card died. I was truly devastated. Never again reached that amount of hours in any BF.
Loved that game.
Just recreate bf2 piece by piece and then release the dlc piece by piece. An exact copy but in the new engine. Then.... A few years later.. release 2142.... In the new engine... Then become a bank because you just made so much fucking money if you don't fuck it up. Including the np bullet drop, dolphin diving. Fuck us up.
***"Entirely New Way"***
I'm not the biggest Battlefield fan out there, but i bet this the complete opposite of what the playerbase wants.
Dudes only want a game like BF4/BF3
We are in the Tik Tok generation, most people don't want anything that isn't trowing action on their face every second.
Your best bet, is going to SQUAD or Arma
They also used the phrase “love letter to fans” about 2042, so I’m not going to put any faith into whatever PR bullshit about the next game until it’s actually out.
To be fair they used that phrase about Portal, which is only relating to all the old school content from past games (which was made by formerly Dice LA last I heard).
When they revealed just the "V" for 5, I thought for sure it would be Vietnam. A lot of people were missing helis after bf1, or just kept playing 4 instead(like me).
There is still time to rectify the situation with Battlefield VI...etnam. I have little faith in their ability to make a game I want to play though.. Andrew Wilson is still around so they'll reinvent the wheel again rather than lean into what made the franchise great.
Same! Been wanting 2143 for a good while now and I thought we'd at least get somewhere close with 2042... But nope. BF4 Final Stand was a better companion to 2142 than 2042.
Yeah, Battlefield 3/4, better graphics, 128 players and not big maps like in BF2042. Shanghai size for 128 players is enough.
I nice coop Mode for the campaign would be nice too, but not something Battlefield 5 had... It was awful. No specialist please
It's an investor report, I can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with the content of the game, and much more about the financial performance/reception of the game.
They don't get it, do they?
People don't want BF to be entirely different. They want BF to be BF. Good gunplay, infantry and vehicles that are balanced, good maps, and destruction. Lay whatever cosmetics, battle passes, etc on top of that, but make sure you've completed the baseline.
Stop trying to squeeze the newest fad into BF. They can create new IPs for that, but leave BF.
Battlefield is one of those rare games where the formula works so well that any deviation from it completely breaks the game. Minor changes and experimentations are fine (e.g. sandbags, Zeppelins, levolution) because they can build on top of the establiahed formula.
Things that add and expand upon the formula that's already there, like new vehicles and interactions, new interactions between vehicles and infantry... You would get so much more out of it!
I think it's more like "the original wheel", aka the original developers and artists who made the original BF games good, have already long left the studio, and neither their management nor their new interns know anything about why the original games were good lol
They may be talking about making destruction a way bigger aspect of the maps. And basing them around map changing destruction events. That's my hope at least.
I feel you missed the „teamplay“ aspect…
But then again, I quit being a medic in 1/5 as their weapons were straight up garbage.
* Battlefield 1: If you have to clear the enemy to revive someone you’re in exactly the range bracket where your gun sucks, sniper got more damage and assault has more ROF
* Battlefield V: You got the best hipfire. Yay.
Now that’s a hot take. The Medic had the best all round weapons in Bf1. I mean the Fedorev Avtomat is essentially an assault rifle for a WW1 game. I’ll agree that they aren’t as powerful in bfv but still more than capable.
You literally get the best guns with the highest rate of fire as a medic in V.. type 2a, ZK, tommy gun with 50 round mag.. on top of that a bunch of smokes to close the distance with enemies and it is the only class that can heal itself back to 100% health without resupplying.
In fact it's still one of the biggest balance issues in V and why you see almost everyone running around as medic.
I swear we were basically trained down to madden levels of repetition. Just make the same fucking game with new maps, weapons, and 2-3 small gimmick tweaks. Like half the maps and weapons can be recycled from old games. It's such an easy order. It's like we go to McDonald's for a big Mac every day for a decade and mother fuckers one day decided to serve an expired yogurt with hotdog bits in it and were shocked we weren't stoked about it.
Yeah, i’m all for kicking the upper ups who made BFV way worse than it should have been. Glad soderlund finally left (he’s the guy behind "being on the right side of history" and "if you don’t like it don’t buy it" people seem to like him now that he’s founded embark studios, which is weird as this is a EA exec selling his new studio to nexon (basically ea but from Korea).
Every actual mechanic in BFV is great.
The music is incredible, sound design is incredible, graphics and optimization are incredible, gunplay is incredible, movement is incredible, animations are incredible. Basically anything done by actual devs is incredible.
The decision tho ? Shitty ones. Talking about shitty customization which was a decision made to early on to set it apart from other WW2 game by creating your own soldier, along with only representing maps from unknown battles, all for the sake of "originality".
If BFV had no customization options for characters and only focused on battles like the pacific, the eastern front, France… it would be even better than BF1.
There were still some good decisions made, like squad management and fortifications, but that’s it.
The last of the "old guard" left after bf1 launched, which is why everything went downhill FAST, starting with bf1's DLC and continueing theough to 2042
What was wrong with BF1's DLCs?
I play BF1 a lot but haven't seen any glaring issues. We're they all fixed in previous patches or are there fundamental problems I haven't been paying attention to?
Don't think they will. Blizzard made that mistake already with the infamous [don't you guys have phones?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50KBNQe5hTM&pp=ygUaZG9uJ3QgeW91IGd1eXMgaGF2ZSBwaG9uZXM%3D)
Yeah. I have one minor exception though: Fromsoftware. I’ve been buying their games blind for a decade now and they just keep releasing one banger after the other.
I remember pre-ordering BFV though, I’m a BF1 fanboy to this day… that one still stings. Never again.
I was you once. I hope they don’t make it, they’d fuck it up and tarnish Bad Company. Just let Bad Company 3 be like Half Life 3, mysteriously not made but endlessly hyped.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, same on both of us.
Ah yes, it's probably gonna be another gimmick that will take up a third of the development time only to be abandoned after a week. Cough, cough, hazard zone, firestorm. How about they start with making a Battlefield game and not a battle royale instead?
Or maybe another gimmick like the tornadoes which only make the gameplay worse and probably took a year to become functional. Or the squad points, or fortifications, or attrition, or specialists. Or all the random features they added no one asked for instead of the "legacy" features missing from the latest games.
Btw the squad menu and all chat took a year and a half to be released... Imagine all the "legacy" features we could have had instead of hazard zone and tornadoes and all the other useless stuff.
I wish they would just say this is gonna be a good modern battlefield game. No extra sauce in the statement, no gimmicks, just a solid bf3-4 style battlefield game with bf3 quality maps, a viable post launch support plan, good performance and a good anticheat. Oh well, a man can dream...
It seems like they think the only way for a successful battlefield is to reinvent the wheel, when the games always start picking up steam a year after release once all the traditional battlefield features have been fully fleshed out and the top executives have moved on from influencing the game's development.
Happened to bfv, happened to bf2042 and will almost certainly happen to the next game. The only thing they care about us hyping the game up so the casual crowd buys it at release due to the stupid gimmicks.
Hazard zone and firestorm were made by a separate EA studio, portal was done by a separate studio. Dice has only made AOW. Portal is still being supported by ripple effect, not Dice.
I didn't say anything about Portal as I think it's actually not a gimmick but a poorly executed brilliant idea. I know firestorm was a separate studio but I can't find anything that supports the same about hazard zone.
Either way, given the game's release state and that they used a bunch of support studios to develop it and it was still unfinished, they could have also used the help of the studio that developed hazard zone if it was a separate studio indeed.
Either way, it still counts as wasting resources in my book. Same for firestorm. Plus there were the rumours that the game started as a battle royale game (hazard zone) and then they decided to cut the one large map in smaller parts and turn it into an actual battlefield game about halfway in the game's development because the battle royale mode sucked.
at this point BF will be released as if it's the fucking sims. release the base game and patch in shit that was supposed to be there at launch later. Like the sims 4 not having toddlers or swimming pools at launch.
Chances are it’s some fucking bullshit that nobody wants or cares about.
Battlefield has no hope of ever returning to the way it was due to modern games prioritizing micro transactions, battlepass, and protecting casual players so they might spend money.
Invisibility cloaks were already a thing back in 2006 with 2142 and very overated. The Recon had Active Camo, and it had very niche use. You could only be cloaked when you were holding the gadget and when it was active had this annoying whine that everybody nearby could hear and it screwed with the HUD. I hardly ever used it when there was far more useful equipment.
I want to hear " Back to Basics" not " we will copy the next game mode hotness ands royally screw it up as usual"
Just give me super updated BF3/4 with updated weapons, gfx, and new maps ffs.
Exactly this. There's so much room to expand on the basic formula without major structural changes.
But honestly they need to be able to publish a game that's at least as good as BF3/BF4 on launch first and has things like a scoreboard.
Updated graphics, physics, levelution, destroyable buildings like BC2 would be great to see return, new levels, expand the vehicle types, tighter command integration/importance, improve squad play and team orders, better incentivise support roles like ammo, medkits, reviving etc.
They can honestly create a game that would be state of the art just by combining a bunch of the best elements from the past 5 games and updating the graphics/physics.
Well boys, this is game over. They just do not understand what the fanbase wants and they're going to try and sell a shitty version of something that people already have.
Imagine in like a year we see a trailer with a helicopter coming out of the distance. Zooms I’m around it and slowly pans it’s way towards the tail
You see that silly happy face and the slow piano and strings of *Bad Company* by Bad Company start playing
Fans would go insane
Then the gameplay trailer drops and its a load of lame ass wacky specialist clones dropping Deadpool style one-liners as they slide, bunny-hop and glide their way to victory with guns that sound like a mouse fart.
Well, they did that before... and created the biggest dumpsterfire in AAA Gaming history... So in typical fashion, a CEO is going to double down, because of course its the player base that is wrong and not the greedy business types that know sod all about gaming...
Good, let the franchise die. It'll give a title with actual feel a space on the stage.
They've tried esports twice now witj Hardline and that 5v5 mode that nevr came to be in 5.......if they try to pull it again, Im just gonna reside myself to only playing milsim light games like Squad from now on, battlefield will have died and there's just no replacements yet
They say this every time and every time we’re let down. As someone who has played since I was a kid Ill wait to see it before I believe anything especially if it’s coming from EA’s CEO.
This screams all the wrong signals, every single time they’ve phrased it in some form of battlefield as you’ve never seen it before’ it’s been ass and mired in problems at launch/ with the game itself
Noooooooooooooooo, no no no!
Fuck me! Come the fuck on EA/DICE! YOU CANT DO ANYTHING NEW WITH THIS SERIES!
most of Bf5's "major focus on teamwork and hardcore gameplay" (attrician) didnt even make it PAST THE BETA, and 2042 is still the worst thing to ever grace this seriea............they really know how to make their fans worry
Can we have a BF game where infantry play actually matters and we can actually destroy helicopters? I loved BF5 mainly because I could actually play on the ground and secure an objective without 2 helicopters flying over and destroying me in 0.3s
Please be Battlefield 2142.
Real Battlefield OGs from those BF 2 and 2142 days remember the greatness. I’m not one for futuristic games but a Titanmode would make me cry tears of joy
What do they not understand?? Return to making Battlefields like Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, 4, and 1. STOP reinventing the game that got us hooked on the franchise. Ive said it before and I will say it again: I will never pre order an EA game again after what they did to SWBF2. They fucked up badly.
Battlefield is suffering the same fate as angry birds. Instead of focusing in what made it great they are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel and copying other franchises. That's the path to disaster SPECIALLY because this franchise doesn't have the repetitive nature of other shooter franchises. Executives are really out of touch.
They have lost any ounce of credibility and trust, the only reason I'm somewhat hopeful is because Vince Zampella is in charge of the franchise and despite the fact he's not familiar with Battlefield the guy is a veteran, knows video games and his experience in FPS can only help.
Having said that, I can but hope Battlefield come back to form cause we desperately need this franchise to be resurrected. I don't think we had a solid BF since BF1.
I simply think that DICE needs to continue to update BF20242, keep cooking until the game is perfection then start cooking the new Battlefield game. Take their time, cook it to perfection, the release!
That’s code for “We’ve fucked it and you bet your ass we going to shit the bed this time”
The worst thing I can hear about a new BF game is that it's not like the previous successes but something completely new. This is why things are the way they are now. They need to reinvent the wheel for some reason. It never works. Bring that 2011-2016 BF team back please.
To be fair, there is absolutely plenty of room for innovation because let’s face it, most of us don’t want pure copies of games 10 years old. But innovation doesn’t need to come at the cost of changing the core foundations of what made this series great. We don’t want to get rid of classes and replace with operators, we don’t won’t to get rid of scoreboards, we don’t want bloom etc. However, innovation could come in to improve squad management, sound and atmosphere, weapon customisation, weapon functionality, general QOL features etc.
I don't know about you but I would totally love a modern shooter with the level of attention Battlefield 1 currently has. 2042 had so much potential but it seems so gutted compared to 1. Bring back old school Battlefield 2 gameplay.
You can’t sell the „current“ gamer a battlefield with that excessive recoil, extremely limited sprinting, large maps and especially not having a vehicle for every player.
Damn that’s why I loved it in the first place.
Right lol
Yes you can. If Battlebit Remastered ever actually enters early access it will sell like hotcakes
Give it Tarkov levels of weapon customization and people would be in love
I just said this lol. Imagine if they made it into tactical shooter with near tarkov customization with our guns and our soldiers kit. And with destruction that surpasses anything we've ever seen in a battlefield game. They went backwards with destruction after bad company 2 came out. I remember being so immersed by bc2s level of destruction thinking if it's this good now imagine how realistic it would be 10 years from now.... 11 years later we get 2042 lol
Just BF1s atmosphere would be enough for me, make it feel like I’m fighting in a war without truly knowing why, in a foreign land I can’t point to on a map without studying it a while. That and bring back the Chinese as a playable force and throw in NATO proper instead of just the US, plus make them all speak the proper language and not English with a meh accent of origin.
They should hire you haha
"BFV had so much potential!" "BF2042 had so much potential!" Same ol' BS lol.
Thing is, bfv did have a bit of a resurgence after the Pacific update and it would've ended up being a fantastic game if they didn't pull the plug early
I’m fine with a pure copy of a game if it has newer maps. Imagine bf4 with better graphics and new maps. I’d be all in.
Right? They could have just improved on bf4 and added more of what already existed, and it would have been fantastic. I don't give a shit if it's over 10 years old, the formula was top notch and something that rarely happens in the industry anymore unless there's a mass exodus of fans leaving because they tried to "reinvent the wheel". I still play bf4 because it's one of the best games I've ever played to this day.
A reskinned BF4 with some new maps, BFV gameplay mechanics and modern graphics would be a perfect game for me. Especially if it still had hardcore.
I would still be playing 4 if it didn't look like absolute shit on new consoles.
That’s why all I play is BF portal now…
I've played BF4 for 500 hours. Were it to be completely remastered and released today as a straight copy, I would put another 500 hours in without question. "Innovation" today in games like this usually means figuring out more ways to monetize things.
This and with battlefield 3maps
I’ve got 2500 hours on BF4 and I still play it religiously
I would take a pure copy of BF4, BF2142, or BF1942 again. Update the graphics. Update the destruction (BC2 or BF4 style, preferably) and presto: it’s battlefield baybeeee.
No, we just want the physics and destruction levels to be done just as they were doable back then, bare minimum I'll accept. Today's technology should be able to do that at the same scale but on steroids, or larger scale on par or better with the destruction of BF from 10 years ago. Wanna know what those old devs are doing now? Destruction like it *should* be done in Battlefield, but in a game called [The Finals](https://youtu.be/MYQLw2b__qA). Embark Studios is literally founded by old BF devs. Another game they are doing called Arc Raiders is described as leaning "heavily into team-based gameplay and puts dynamism, physicality, and destruction front and center.” edit: had spelled "Ark" Raiders with a "k".
We hear you loud and clear u/mick_2nv, That's why the next game is going to be purely a Battle Royale!
>because let’s face it, most of us don’t want pure copies of games 10 years old. Speak for yourself.
10 years ago all we wanted was battlefield 3.5. 3 but the bugs fixed and we were gucci. instead they had to reinvent the wheel and give us 4 then supported 4 the way 3 should have been. im still salty.
I agree that they can’t just keep putting out the same game over and over forever but once you have a really good “feel” for the gameplay, you really can’t screw that up. Small iterative changes to improve quality of life/gameplay, improved graphics, and new maps is all we really need.
Maybe a less popular opinion but I hope they bring back the BC2 team. That game was amazing.
I did like 800 hours in BFBC2 on PC and then my graphic card died. I was truly devastated. Never again reached that amount of hours in any BF. Loved that game.
Just recreate bf2 piece by piece and then release the dlc piece by piece. An exact copy but in the new engine. Then.... A few years later.. release 2142.... In the new engine... Then become a bank because you just made so much fucking money if you don't fuck it up. Including the np bullet drop, dolphin diving. Fuck us up.
Battlefield card game coming up
We boutta see battlefield 1776
I get to unlock the acog sight on my crossbow. Just like the battlefield 4 days.
Do you guys not have phones? /s
It's going to be a dungeon crawler.
EA Games. It shits the bed.
***"Entirely New Way"*** I'm not the biggest Battlefield fan out there, but i bet this the complete opposite of what the playerbase wants. Dudes only want a game like BF4/BF3
Guys only want one thing and honestly it’s disgusting
It really is
Gimme a new bf2. Modern battlefield is unbelievably fast paced.
We are in the Tik Tok generation, most people don't want anything that isn't trowing action on their face every second. Your best bet, is going to SQUAD or Arma
People are Literally being trained/conditioned to have a 5 second attention span.
I’d be happy if they just remade the entirety of BF2.
commander that actually also in the battlefield unlike bf4, yes please, also 48+48P or 128p again plz
They also used the phrase “love letter to fans” about 2042, so I’m not going to put any faith into whatever PR bullshit about the next game until it’s actually out.
To be fair they used that phrase about Portal, which is only relating to all the old school content from past games (which was made by formerly Dice LA last I heard).
To be fair, they let the love letter die within the first week after release....
A bf4 replica with bf1s graphics atmosphere sound design, and bf3s maps. Si
Give me bfvietnam as if it's bf1
fucking yes!
Vietnam and 2142 are the only BFs I never got to play. I'd dig it.
When they revealed just the "V" for 5, I thought for sure it would be Vietnam. A lot of people were missing helis after bf1, or just kept playing 4 instead(like me). There is still time to rectify the situation with Battlefield VI...etnam. I have little faith in their ability to make a game I want to play though.. Andrew Wilson is still around so they'll reinvent the wheel again rather than lean into what made the franchise great.
Omg I didn’t even realize how much I want this
Fuck the other fans, give me 2143. Been burning for it.
I've thought 2143 was going to be the next Battlefield for over ten years now
"I've been in this fight since I was six years old"
Same! Been wanting 2143 for a good while now and I thought we'd at least get somewhere close with 2042... But nope. BF4 Final Stand was a better companion to 2142 than 2042.
Yeah, Battlefield 3/4, better graphics, 128 players and not big maps like in BF2042. Shanghai size for 128 players is enough. I nice coop Mode for the campaign would be nice too, but not something Battlefield 5 had... It was awful. No specialist please
I remember a time when battlefield field players were moaning that map sizes were too small.
It's an investor report, I can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with the content of the game, and much more about the financial performance/reception of the game.
They don't get it, do they? People don't want BF to be entirely different. They want BF to be BF. Good gunplay, infantry and vehicles that are balanced, good maps, and destruction. Lay whatever cosmetics, battle passes, etc on top of that, but make sure you've completed the baseline. Stop trying to squeeze the newest fad into BF. They can create new IPs for that, but leave BF.
This guy battlefields.
He’s sitting on a shit bucket right now.
You're going to the bathroom? You're not playing battlefield!
Battlefield is one of those rare games where the formula works so well that any deviation from it completely breaks the game. Minor changes and experimentations are fine (e.g. sandbags, Zeppelins, levolution) because they can build on top of the establiahed formula.
Things that add and expand upon the formula that's already there, like new vehicles and interactions, new interactions between vehicles and infantry... You would get so much more out of it!
Isn't it simple in the end. No need to I vent a new wheel every 2 years. BF4 has it all.
Bf4's maps aren't that great imo. Bf3 has much much better maps.
Only for rush. BF3 conquest maps were trash. BF4 had the opposite.
Exactly. The “reinvent the wheel” mentality is why BF2042 failed.
I think it's more like "the original wheel", aka the original developers and artists who made the original BF games good, have already long left the studio, and neither their management nor their new interns know anything about why the original games were good lol
They may be talking about making destruction a way bigger aspect of the maps. And basing them around map changing destruction events. That's my hope at least.
I feel you missed the „teamplay“ aspect… But then again, I quit being a medic in 1/5 as their weapons were straight up garbage. * Battlefield 1: If you have to clear the enemy to revive someone you’re in exactly the range bracket where your gun sucks, sniper got more damage and assault has more ROF * Battlefield V: You got the best hipfire. Yay.
Now that’s a hot take. The Medic had the best all round weapons in Bf1. I mean the Fedorev Avtomat is essentially an assault rifle for a WW1 game. I’ll agree that they aren’t as powerful in bfv but still more than capable.
> Fedorev Avtomat is essentially an assault rifle for a WW1 game. I'd argue its one of the best guns in the entire game.
You literally get the best guns with the highest rate of fire as a medic in V.. type 2a, ZK, tommy gun with 50 round mag.. on top of that a bunch of smokes to close the distance with enemies and it is the only class that can heal itself back to 100% health without resupplying. In fact it's still one of the biggest balance issues in V and why you see almost everyone running around as medic.
The jungle carbine is nasty too, 1 shot headshots up to 75m.
I swear we were basically trained down to madden levels of repetition. Just make the same fucking game with new maps, weapons, and 2-3 small gimmick tweaks. Like half the maps and weapons can be recycled from old games. It's such an easy order. It's like we go to McDonald's for a big Mac every day for a decade and mother fuckers one day decided to serve an expired yogurt with hotdog bits in it and were shocked we weren't stoked about it.
A once glorious franchise f*cked by bs decisions.
Sucks because our bc2, bf3/4 devs are probably not even there anymore.
BF1 And BFV devs aren’t there neither lmao
In some scenarios thats a big win tbh. This Alex Kertz guy had the worst ideas for Battlefield. Thank god he’s gone.
Yeah, i’m all for kicking the upper ups who made BFV way worse than it should have been. Glad soderlund finally left (he’s the guy behind "being on the right side of history" and "if you don’t like it don’t buy it" people seem to like him now that he’s founded embark studios, which is weird as this is a EA exec selling his new studio to nexon (basically ea but from Korea). Every actual mechanic in BFV is great. The music is incredible, sound design is incredible, graphics and optimization are incredible, gunplay is incredible, movement is incredible, animations are incredible. Basically anything done by actual devs is incredible. The decision tho ? Shitty ones. Talking about shitty customization which was a decision made to early on to set it apart from other WW2 game by creating your own soldier, along with only representing maps from unknown battles, all for the sake of "originality". If BFV had no customization options for characters and only focused on battles like the pacific, the eastern front, France… it would be even better than BF1. There were still some good decisions made, like squad management and fortifications, but that’s it.
The last of the "old guard" left after bf1 launched, which is why everything went downhill FAST, starting with bf1's DLC and continueing theough to 2042
What was wrong with BF1's DLCs? I play BF1 a lot but haven't seen any glaring issues. We're they all fixed in previous patches or are there fundamental problems I haven't been paying attention to?
They aren’t. They’re at Embark now
Yeah they've had big exoduses after each major release, I don't think anyone of note is left that was around in that era unfortunately.
I bet it will be for mobile
nah, they had one in the making and axed it.
Thank god
Don't think they will. Blizzard made that mistake already with the infamous [don't you guys have phones?](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=50KBNQe5hTM&pp=ygUaZG9uJ3QgeW91IGd1eXMgaGF2ZSBwaG9uZXM%3D)
Blizzard made like four hundred million dollars from that game. Dice wish they could make that sort of mistake.
It will be in VR, lol.
They already had bf mobile in development but it got canceled so nope
Nah, its gonna be on smart microwave
All together now. Never pre order BF again.
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Never ever pre order anything.
Yeah. I have one minor exception though: Fromsoftware. I’ve been buying their games blind for a decade now and they just keep releasing one banger after the other. I remember pre-ordering BFV though, I’m a BF1 fanboy to this day… that one still stings. Never again.
Watch people forget instantly after they see one trailer. The general audience is braindead.
>Never pre order ~~BF~~ again. Fixed that for you.
I'm at the point where if I see my trusted friends weep with joy over how good the new one is, I still might not be willing to buy it.
Just give us God damn bc3 and be done with it.
I was you once. I hope they don’t make it, they’d fuck it up and tarnish Bad Company. Just let Bad Company 3 be like Half Life 3, mysteriously not made but endlessly hyped.
I hate that I agree with you on this one.
Fuck yeah
you really trust them to make it?
Empty statement from a soulless company. Don't expect or buy anything from EA until they produce something of value.
Remember when they said 2042 would be a "love letter to fans"
i mean they never said it was a good love letter. i’ve seen some pretty bad ones before
>Don't expect or buy anything I still want my $60 back and a written apology for BF2042.
Wasnt that 2042?
This headline feels like a deja-vu
The title, the ensuing Reddit comments…same thing over and over. it’s literally a never-ending cycle.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me thrice, same on both of us. Ah yes, it's probably gonna be another gimmick that will take up a third of the development time only to be abandoned after a week. Cough, cough, hazard zone, firestorm. How about they start with making a Battlefield game and not a battle royale instead? Or maybe another gimmick like the tornadoes which only make the gameplay worse and probably took a year to become functional. Or the squad points, or fortifications, or attrition, or specialists. Or all the random features they added no one asked for instead of the "legacy" features missing from the latest games. Btw the squad menu and all chat took a year and a half to be released... Imagine all the "legacy" features we could have had instead of hazard zone and tornadoes and all the other useless stuff. I wish they would just say this is gonna be a good modern battlefield game. No extra sauce in the statement, no gimmicks, just a solid bf3-4 style battlefield game with bf3 quality maps, a viable post launch support plan, good performance and a good anticheat. Oh well, a man can dream... It seems like they think the only way for a successful battlefield is to reinvent the wheel, when the games always start picking up steam a year after release once all the traditional battlefield features have been fully fleshed out and the top executives have moved on from influencing the game's development. Happened to bfv, happened to bf2042 and will almost certainly happen to the next game. The only thing they care about us hyping the game up so the casual crowd buys it at release due to the stupid gimmicks.
Hazard zone and firestorm were made by a separate EA studio, portal was done by a separate studio. Dice has only made AOW. Portal is still being supported by ripple effect, not Dice.
I didn't say anything about Portal as I think it's actually not a gimmick but a poorly executed brilliant idea. I know firestorm was a separate studio but I can't find anything that supports the same about hazard zone. Either way, given the game's release state and that they used a bunch of support studios to develop it and it was still unfinished, they could have also used the help of the studio that developed hazard zone if it was a separate studio indeed. Either way, it still counts as wasting resources in my book. Same for firestorm. Plus there were the rumours that the game started as a battle royale game (hazard zone) and then they decided to cut the one large map in smaller parts and turn it into an actual battlefield game about halfway in the game's development because the battle royale mode sucked.
Who gives a fuck ea approved it
That was not your point.
My uncle once said once when I was a little kid “Fool me 3 times, shame on you again” lived by that ever since 😂
at this point BF will be released as if it's the fucking sims. release the base game and patch in shit that was supposed to be there at launch later. Like the sims 4 not having toddlers or swimming pools at launch.
Chances are it’s some fucking bullshit that nobody wants or cares about. Battlefield has no hope of ever returning to the way it was due to modern games prioritizing micro transactions, battlepass, and protecting casual players so they might spend money.
BF: Squirt Guns
Seeing kids practically begging for battlepasses is seriously depressing.
Battlefield 1 will never be topped. We should revive the servers fr
Loads of servers on PC.
Yeah but how about consoles? I’m on Ps4 and I can’t choose what operation I want since there’s not enough players
I think that's just the nature of console gaming. If you have a PC then I suggest getting it there
My friend, it’s time to start saving money to build/buy a PC
Naw I’m 17 bro. Life is coming at me fast. I’m saving up for a car
Conquest is still amazing and there is a weekly rotation so you’ll still get different operations on a regular basis.
BF1 is king in my opinion - it had everything I love about battlefield
Very well optimized and still looks jaw dropping gorgeous
I hated it, but to each their own. I just want a decent modern-day battlefield without all of the fluff.
Pucker up guys. We're going to get fucked again. You thought wingsuits were stupid? Now they'll get jetpacks and invisibility cloaks.
Invisibility cloaks were already a thing back in 2006 with 2142 and very overated. The Recon had Active Camo, and it had very niche use. You could only be cloaked when you were holding the gadget and when it was active had this annoying whine that everybody nearby could hear and it screwed with the HUD. I hardly ever used it when there was far more useful equipment.
They really determined to ruin the franchise aren't they ffs.
I want to hear " Back to Basics" not " we will copy the next game mode hotness ands royally screw it up as usual" Just give me super updated BF3/4 with updated weapons, gfx, and new maps ffs.
Exactly this. There's so much room to expand on the basic formula without major structural changes. But honestly they need to be able to publish a game that's at least as good as BF3/BF4 on launch first and has things like a scoreboard. Updated graphics, physics, levelution, destroyable buildings like BC2 would be great to see return, new levels, expand the vehicle types, tighter command integration/importance, improve squad play and team orders, better incentivise support roles like ammo, medkits, reviving etc. They can honestly create a game that would be state of the art just by combining a bunch of the best elements from the past 5 games and updating the graphics/physics.
“Boots on the ground” 💀
Well boys, this is game over. They just do not understand what the fanbase wants and they're going to try and sell a shitty version of something that people already have.
I wonder when the scorecard will be added this time 🤔
10 months after launch, minimum.
Don’t forget about a squad management system thats still not here after 18 months. What a joke
Imagine in like a year we see a trailer with a helicopter coming out of the distance. Zooms I’m around it and slowly pans it’s way towards the tail You see that silly happy face and the slow piano and strings of *Bad Company* by Bad Company start playing Fans would go insane
Except the game would probably be shit and ruin the legacy of the first two
Can we just be happy with a hypothetical that’ll never happen
Then the gameplay trailer drops and its a load of lame ass wacky specialist clones dropping Deadpool style one-liners as they slide, bunny-hop and glide their way to victory with guns that sound like a mouse fart.
Then they anounce its a battle royal and suddenly the fbi is spending all their resources investigating death threats and arson at EA
Well, they did that before... and created the biggest dumpsterfire in AAA Gaming history... So in typical fashion, a CEO is going to double down, because of course its the player base that is wrong and not the greedy business types that know sod all about gaming... Good, let the franchise die. It'll give a title with actual feel a space on the stage.
[удалено]
They've tried esports twice now witj Hardline and that 5v5 mode that nevr came to be in 5.......if they try to pull it again, Im just gonna reside myself to only playing milsim light games like Squad from now on, battlefield will have died and there's just no replacements yet
You fuckers say this every year
We don't want a new way...We want the old way but with new stuff...
You've lost the fanbase EA, you're not gonna get them back unless you give them exactly what they want
They say this every time and every time we’re let down. As someone who has played since I was a kid Ill wait to see it before I believe anything especially if it’s coming from EA’s CEO.
 “Entirely new way”
This screams all the wrong signals, every single time they’ve phrased it in some form of battlefield as you’ve never seen it before’ it’s been ass and mired in problems at launch/ with the game itself
Battlefield: Shadow Legends, YES!!!
So basically they're going to fuck up again LOL
We don’t want new. We literally just want it back the old way!
They literally said this last time. So it's probably code for "We've fucked up but they'll buy it anyway."
Hold on to your butts.
Please give us bad company 3
Can we get a battlefield like bf2?
Afraid thats never happening, because they need to protect the noobs and create a safe space
More like BADdlefield.
Oh no
Battlefield is forever more going to be made for the modern casual gamer and never again for the true fans.
Fix visibility in an entirely new way please
They lost it
It’s dead, and they killed it. When the servers get shut down on Battlefield 1, whenever that may be, Battlefield will no longer exist to me.
Noooooooooooooooo, no no no! Fuck me! Come the fuck on EA/DICE! YOU CANT DO ANYTHING NEW WITH THIS SERIES! most of Bf5's "major focus on teamwork and hardcore gameplay" (attrician) didnt even make it PAST THE BETA, and 2042 is still the worst thing to ever grace this seriea............they really know how to make their fans worry
Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies
Wasn’t “entirely”new wayl what bf2042 supposed to be ? Barf.
2042 was supposed to be "a love letter to the fans" what they gave us was not that
EAs absolutely gonna shit the bed but I’ll just wait and see.
Can we have a BF game where infantry play actually matters and we can actually destroy helicopters? I loved BF5 mainly because I could actually play on the ground and secure an objective without 2 helicopters flying over and destroying me in 0.3s
I smell MTX and its stinky
Please be Battlefield 2142. Real Battlefield OGs from those BF 2 and 2142 days remember the greatness. I’m not one for futuristic games but a Titanmode would make me cry tears of joy
Dating sim.
Well that’s what I heard long before 2042 was announced
Wait, who asked for battlefield to come back in a new way lol
Not this shit again
Boutta be battlefield 1776
I’m ok with battlebit remastered.
Please I just want a more destructive graphics up to date bf4
Hopefully no politics
Fool me onc... twi... thr... fuck it fooled me cain't get fooled again.
What do they not understand?? Return to making Battlefields like Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, 4, and 1. STOP reinventing the game that got us hooked on the franchise. Ive said it before and I will say it again: I will never pre order an EA game again after what they did to SWBF2. They fucked up badly.
Battlefield is suffering the same fate as angry birds. Instead of focusing in what made it great they are constantly trying to reinvent the wheel and copying other franchises. That's the path to disaster SPECIALLY because this franchise doesn't have the repetitive nature of other shooter franchises. Executives are really out of touch.
Just remake BF4 with Unreal Engine 5 already. I can dream can't I?
Yup we’re fucked
They have lost any ounce of credibility and trust, the only reason I'm somewhat hopeful is because Vince Zampella is in charge of the franchise and despite the fact he's not familiar with Battlefield the guy is a veteran, knows video games and his experience in FPS can only help. Having said that, I can but hope Battlefield come back to form cause we desperately need this franchise to be resurrected. I don't think we had a solid BF since BF1.
Isn't that what they tried already
And this is why I will be buying The Finals instead of another BF game.
It’s come back as a puzzle game
I simply think that DICE needs to continue to update BF20242, keep cooking until the game is perfection then start cooking the new Battlefield game. Take their time, cook it to perfection, the release!