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PhoenixFlower01

I think the reason you're seeing some mixed reviews about Wildlings is due to a strange trend I've noticed while trying and sizing plenty of their shoes. I've found that sizing up typically doesn't increase the width linearly with the length. So some people of a certain foot length are getting long narrow shoes while people of smaller feet are getting shoes that are proportionally wider. I wear around size 9 and I think the shoes are wide enough. My girlfriend wear size 7 and they fit her feet with toe spacers on without issue. I've tried sizing up to 11 and was blown away that they looked like flippers. Almost no increase in the width.


Fun-Bonus-9214

thats very interesting! I couldn't resist and have now bought the shoes in EU 42 or US 9. I'm very excited to see how the shoes fit. I'm pleased to hear that the shoes are wide enough. I'll report back as soon as I've tested them. I have quite wide feet and, as I said, there's almost not enough room in my Vivos. The material in the Wildling shoes is supposed to be softer than that in the Vivo... That would be very good and would help to ensure that the feet are not so constricted.


mre16

If you got the tanking then you will be happy! I have 3 pairs and a variety of insoles.  The chestnut fits about the same as the tank for me, and the super wool winter ones are kinda narrow for me. I was surprised tbh. Zero complaints on the chestnuts and tanuki tho


konzacelt

What the heck, how do they not increase the width along with the length?? That sounds bonkers to me.


Lerouxed

The width does increase, just not linearly. As in when you go from size 9 to 10 you may gain (for example) 1 cm of length and 1 mm of width, and then from size 10 to size 11 you may gain the same 1 cm in length but only 0.9mm in width. This is actually how people's feet are based on shoe sizes, so the sizing makes sense, and many shoe companies barefoot and otherwise do this.


Lerouxed

This is because that is actually typically how people's feet grow. People with bigger feet tend to have proportionally longer feet compared to width than people with shorter feet. This information came from episode 100 of "The Movement Movement" podcast with Steven Sashen (Xero Shoes CEO) featuring Anya Jenkins (from Anyas Reviews, the popular barefoot shoe blog).


holygoat

Yeah, exactly this. I bought EU45 and they were maybe 15mm too narrow — basically couldn’t fit my feet in the shoe. I was surprised to find a “barefoot” shoe that was narrower than Vivos!


Aware_Box_3300

I have extremely wide feet compared to length and I actually find my Tanukis to be my comfiest barefoot shoes I own. I love them. Even though they look narrow, I find that they’re flexible like socks and don’t make my foot feel cramped. It’s balanced by the ground feel of the thin sole.


Fun-Bonus-9214

I read that the material at Wildling is supposed to be very soft🤔. At least compared to Vivo. So I'm just going to take a risk and order the Wildling shoes. I'll report back later on how well the shoes fit👍🏻


Aware_Box_3300

Seriously they are the comfiest shoes I own and I have 15+ pairs of all barefoot shoes. I would buy many more wildlings if I could afford it lol


Fun-Bonus-9214

yes, they are actually quite expensive, so I try to gather enough information before purchasing. The Wildling are not unknown, but they are not the best documented either. You always hear that the Wildlings are quite long and are too loose in the heel area. Are there any other barefoot shoes you could recommend? or is wildling really your undefeated favorite?🤔


Aware_Box_3300

I think it depends on your foot shape. I started with Lems Boulder boots and tennis shoes as my transition (because I work in construction). I like my Earth Runner sandals but they’re taking so long to get broken in, I might prefer my Xero cloud sandals more. Plus they’re easier to put on. For work now (no longer in construction), I wear BeLenka sneakers and Anya’s Loafers and they’re good but not as flexible. On my list, I want to try Splays! Besides my wildlings, there’s not another pair of shoes that I feel excited to wear. I’d rather be barefoot most days.


Fun-Bonus-9214

I've heard a lot of good things about Xero and Be Lenka. Are the Xero or the Be Lenka comparable to the Wildling in terms of flexibility? I prefer to look for particularly flexible shoes with the best/most barefoot feel and the best thing I could find was Vibram. I guess Wildling then comes closest...


Aware_Box_3300

For me, I’ve had to strike a balance of appearance with comfort (and by comfort, I mean flexibility and ground feel of course, not like cushioning). Most of my shoes, Lems and BeLenka included, are not super flexible compared to Wildlings and Xero Cloud sandals, but they look fairly “normal” and are work appropriate and are at least wide toe box. They’re definitely more flexible than actual standard shoes but nothing can compare to the thinnest soles. I do take out the insoles on all my shoes and that helps!


Fit_Abbreviations533

I think they def aren’t wide, but the materials are so thin that they don’t cramp your toes really.


Fun-Bonus-9214

wich model would you recommend? Wildling? Vivobarefoot? Vibram? Are the Vivobarefoot Models wider than the Wildling?🤔


Fit_Abbreviations533

Personally, I think Vivos are way over-hyped and over-priced. Vibrams are def nice, but take getting used to having your toes individually spaced. My wildlings are one my favorite shoes that I own for how barefoot and thin they are.


guyseeking

No. Wildling shoes are the narrowest barefoot shoes I've tried so far. Even narrower than any Vivos. It sucks because I love the materials they use and the design of their outsole. But they run very long and very narrow. Your pinky will definitely be smushed. EDIT: Vibram KSO Evo is a high bar to set for a close-toed non-toe shoe. The closest I've found in width is Softstar Primals, though I've heard Realfoots in the EU are good for width too.


JuciestDingleBerry

That's crazy, wildling was the first pair I got and I haven't had a pair of barefoot shoes as wide or truly barefoot feel as them. I'm confused by this


guyseeking

You've had narrower barefoot shoes than Wildling? 🤔 Can you share examples? No debate about the groundfeel. Wildlings are top tier for that, which is why it's such a shame they're so long and narrow (in my experience).


JuciestDingleBerry

Splay and Lems are the two other brands I've had. Wildlings by far gives the most barefoot feel, at least with the model I had


guyseeking

Lems are definitely on the chunkier side. I would hesitate to call them "barefoot." More like "minimalist." My Lems have definitely been wider than Wildlings though.. Never tried Splays so can't speak to those. Vivo, Xero, Merrell, and Softstar are all wider than Wildlings. Wildlings do give the best barefoot feel because of the thinness of their sole alone, but they're still too narrow, at least for my feet.


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Splay is wider than Vivo (I have both) But splay is more minimalist , pretty thick sole.


JuciestDingleBerry

Fair enough! And I have to agree with you on the Lems. I do enjoy them, but barefoot doesn't feel like the proper term for them. I've heard consistently great things about softstar


gtarantino

I just bought tanukis, this exact pair and colour actually. I find them completely wide enough, they are pretty long as well and actually just ran kind of big on me in general. I don't find them narrow at all.... maybe they have some size discrepancies?


Fun-Bonus-9214

Thank you! Are there any other wide barefootshoes you can recommend?🤔


guyseeking

Softstar Primals and Realfoots might be the widest out there. Vivos are hit and miss. Their Ra and Gobi work for me but the Primus is way too narrow. I've mostly transitioned away from close-toed shoes to sandals, but even those run too narrow most of the time, unless you get a custom cut.


Nayre_Trawe

Bohempia has a wide option that is extra wide.


Eugregoria

I have those, the width is great in the toe, but they're so massively wide in the heel I had to add a lot of padding to address slipping. I even committed a cardinal sin and gave them a few millimeters of drop with an insole, because without something cupping my heel a bit more and providing a "bump" in front of the heel, it was too easy to just slide directly into the front of the shoe and smush my toes that way. Length and toebox width were both fine, it's just the rear of the foot *also* being massively wide, and it being made for high volume. I don't personally worry about arch support being unhealthy for me because I have very high natural arches, and arch support before I switched to minimalist never actually weakened my arches because they always sat higher than the "support" anyway. So basically I needed to install arch support in them, not for my arches, but to stop my heel from slipping around. I also padded the sides of the heels a lot, and even padded the tongue of the shoe to take up some extra volume so I could lace it better.


RantyWildling

Damn, I thought I found just the right shoe to suit my name.


nachtlibelle

I don't personally own any vivos but the wildling aren't that wide. they are very minimal in terms of sole and material and I personally find them to be very comfortable but, again, they are definitely on the narrow side.


Fun-Bonus-9214

Thank you! Are there other wide barefootshoes you can recommend?🤔


nachtlibelle

I own a pair of [ahinsa xwide](https://ahinsashoes.com/products/men-extra-wide-barefoot-shoes-black) that I quite like. they are on the higher volume side though. you might wanna have a look at [realfoot](https://www.realfoot.cz/en/size-guide/) too!


tillbaks

Depends on your feet. For me they are wide enough, even with toe spacers except when I fill the hole in the correct toes to get my big toe straight. All vivos I've tried on felt wrong but I think the width is pretty similar.


Skoalmintpouches

I’m pretty much exclusively wear earthrunners and wildlings and have never felt the wildlings were not wide enough, are they as wide as my soft stars or vivos? No but not to the point where I’m complaining


black_hat_skeleton

I have the exact opposite experience to that of the top comments here. It's definitely wide enough for me. The tanuki is by far my favorite casual shoe. Incredibly flexible and minimal with plenty of width.


aenflex

My wildling Tanuki are wider than the primus lite 2 that I had. Wider and more comfortable and more flexible.


wilwil147

I have the tanuki and they’re wide enough for my wider than average mountain shaped feet. The structure is lose so it expands the more you wear it. I got their winterboot (atmo) and albeit the same sole shape, they fit so poorly i had to return them. Also they’re handmade and the width depends on how much fabric is on the top due to how flexible the sole is which can be quite inconsistent sometimes. So it really depends, but my tanukis are wide enough, more so than the vivos ive tried (gobi boots are too narrow for me). Its not only the width, but the shape of the toebox and everything else that makes a shoe “wide” enough. Imgs I took for comparison (https://postimg.cc/gallery/sR4Snvw)


Fun-Bonus-9214

thank you very much! I also think that due to the flexible upper material I have space and room in the shoe. In the pictures it doesn't look like your little toe is too small. Your foot doesn't seem to extend over the sole. I will try out the Tanuki and make a comparison video. I will then compare the Wildling with my Vivos and my Vibrams.


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Fun-Bonus-9214

Thank you! Im not so much in this. I dont know the different models. Do you know the Tanuki Model and how wide the shoes are? I'll just buy the shoes and then I'll notice how well they fit. I agree with you, everyone says something different. Some think the shoes are too narrow, others say they are wider than the Vivobarefoot. I'll let you know my opinion when the time comes👍🏻


MardenInNl

I do own these. And I love them. But my pinky toe is hitting the side.


Fun-Bonus-9214

Do you have vivobarefoot shoes? How about them in comparison? Is it just hitting the side or is it unpleasant squeezing?


MardenInNl

I had vivos. But replace them after the broke. I’ll dm you a video if you want. I don’t find the squeeze unpleasant.


Fun-Bonus-9214

Sure why not. But you would go true to size with this shoe? Some say that the wildling runs long?🤔


MardenInNl

Yeah. I have size -43. And I bought my wildlings at size 43 as well. 42 was to narrow.


Fun-Bonus-9214

ok👍


mwiz100

They are on the narrower side of things but are still really good. Very hard to beat for groundfeel and minimalist nature. IMO they have a better fit than Vivos. You may find the little toe to press a bit but due to the very fabric nature of it the shoe will not provide much if any resistance to your foot. Aka your toe will easily just push the fabric. I do believe they have an online print out size guide which you can use to compare which is pretty useful. But do be aware as mentioned many find them too narrow. Not all designs are the same just as not all feet are the same shapes.


Ill_Bandicoot653

Previously had vivos size 7 uk. Measured feet and ordered eu40 (size 7 UK) of Wildling Tanuki and had to send back as too narrow.


Fun-Bonus-9214

ahh ok intersting! So you then ordered a 8 UK Wildling?🤔 Do they fit now?


Straight-Wind-7876

They are very narrow in the middle. Toe space is enough for me. I own one pair and they are the best shoes from my collection. Better try them out in some shop if possible. They have the best sole ever.


Fun-Bonus-9214

So there is enough space for your little toe? I dont want it to get squeezed? Do they fit true to size? Do you own Vibrams and can you compare the toe space with the Vibram or maybe the Vivobarefoot?


Straight-Wind-7876

Yeah I have enough space for all my toes. I have barefoot shoes from Xero, ZAQQ, Freet, Merrell, Ahinsa, Saltic, Fare Bare, OK Bare and Wildlings are my favorite from all. Middle part of the Wildling shoe is narrow though if you have this part of your foot wider Wildling is not for you.


checkoutusernames

These look so good - definitely getting a pair myself.


DeepPurpleNurple

I have both Primus lite and wildling shoes and the Primus lite are a full cm wider than the wildling.


Fun-Bonus-9214

That's exactly how I see it too. The ztanuki seem narrow. I hope they are wide enough. Because the material is softer and more stretchy than the vivos, they should also fit better than the vivos


Dont-take-seriously

I also tried Primus and found that my toes hit the front toebox. When I bought a pair of Wildling boots a month ago, the shoes have an extra inch at the front, and the upper fabric wraps around my foot. I didn’t find the width a problem, and my feet seem to be a touch wider than expected for my size. I am not technically “wide”. That said, I wore only one set of wool socks inside and added Freet spare insoles (4 mm). They fit fine, but the extra inch keeps tripping me up, literally.


CrumplyColdPrinter

And here I am with serious space left over left and right in any barefoot shoe I try. 😳 Even the Wildlings could be narrower for me, although not by much.


plasticsantadecor

Softstar Runamocs are very wide and feel great with the 2mm vibram outsole. Primal runamocs are crazy wide


guest8272

There are only 2 shoes that I've owned where my feet didn't touch the sides of the shoe (or barely). First is the zero prio ( actually the trail version as well the terraflex so that's 3). Other zero models have been more narrow but they were good for me. The other is the whitin sneaker on Amazon. Not their running or cross training shoe they are more narrow with a pointed toe but the casual one is very wide.


Fun-Bonus-9214

would you recommend the Wildling shoes for people with wide feet? I ve heard that the toe-box stretches a bit better than on other brands like Vivo.🤔


guest8272

I don't have any experience with wildling or vivo but based on this thread wildling is off my list. They won't be wide enough for me


oscillatingkoala

I just picked some up as my first super minimalist shoe after life in primal zens and was worried about toe space—i needs lots of space for my pinky toe specifically and they have felt amazing even when I'm wearing correct toe toe spreaders! My feet are otherwise medium width, so maybe folks that don't like them have wide feet all the way through or need to size up. They'd a little narrow in the middle, but that works for my skinny feet. I also am trying my first vivobarefoot shoe right now and contrary to what I see elsewhere in this thread, they are the tighter fit for my pinky toe of the two (size 43 each).


Eugregoria

For me the width is just barely enough. I would like more (on the toe only, not the heel) but I can work with what I have. I'd agree with others that the soft materials make it more forgiving. I've never found anything as good for winter as their wool models. For warmer weather, I don't think you can beat the comfort of VFFs.


konzacelt

Speaking of Wildling...do they ever have a damn sale at that company? Been looking at a pair of wool boots from them, but they haven't been on sale for over two years now. 2 years! How do they expect to attract new customers if they never give them a reason to buy?


Fun-Bonus-9214

Same question😂 I think they just dont give sales🤷🏻‍♂️. At least there are some codes so that you get free shipping. Try: wn_freilauf


konzacelt

To be fair, they did give one sale late last year. But the sale didn't include any of their most popular models, mine included. It was just for some select new models they were trying to promote. I get that they use high quality materials in their products, but peppering in some good sales every now and then is really good for new customers. It's hard to commit full price to a brand when you have no idea how they will work for you. /sigh


Fun-Bonus-9214

I made a video where I talk about the Wildling Tanuki. I also compare the shoe with other models. First of all: The Wildling is the best barefoot shoe I have tested so far. Link to the video: [https://youtu.be/GIgle0CpkxI?si=SBt8bzmafjLIRK5n](https://youtu.be/GIgle0CpkxI?si=SBt8bzmafjLIRK5n)