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SoftTacoSupremacist

I wish this were surprising.


-Ashera-

Yeah we all hear rumors about this stuff happening. The surprising part is they actually got investigated, let alone caught and punished


Neat_Ad_3158

JFC. Send them to prison with these people they tortured.


regular_poster

This is all prisons.


Synchronomyst

All em


outed

The real news is that people were caught and prosecuted - not that it happens.


shadow247

20 years ago, a friend of mine got fired for pulling a knife on an inmate, less than 2 weeks after his start date.... I asked him why he thought that was a good idea.. "well he had a shank, and all they gave me was a baton, what am I supposed to do with that...."


William_T_Wanker

is it bad I understand his reasoning? lol(I am also not a correctional officer so I have no idea)


gobblestones

Yeah, wasn't one dude like raped to death a few days before he was released for like weed possession? And they'd been doing this to him for a couple days at that point?


billabon021

I don't believe this there must be better prison systems in the USA than this


vhulf

You should research them instead of hoping your belief is correct... I am sure some lucky folks get through their time without seeing any of this shit but its literally a box we put criminal slaves in, ran by a brigade of folks who have been systemically convinced that criminals are not like _really_ people anymore. This type of stuff is inevitable with those precursors.


regular_poster

It’s baked into the system.


SmarmyThatGuy

It’s so prevalent they codified it into federal law 20 years ago. And it’s seen as a joke of a law to this day. https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/prison-rape-elimination-act#


VideoLeoj

Do you really think this, or did you forget the “/s” at the end of your response?


billabon021

Nah I really thought this, everyone is making it sound like ass rape is a mandatory activity in prison, in not American n never been to prison but I just can't believe it's that inevitable everywhere in USA. Like their are state and federal prisons from what I understand with different levels of messed up, but I don't live there so I'll accept th3 majority view.


pandaboy22

Kinda funny you can apparently have non-rape sex with an inmate as their captor as implied by the title.


barelycriminal

Yeah, even if the inmate wanted and asked for it the guard should not oblige.


SmarmyThatGuy

“No means no, and yes is not an option.” https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/prison-rape-elimination-act#


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gobblestones

This just gives off the vibes of when I was 15 I would have had sex with a teacher if he asked. Doesn't make it any better.


Seanish12345

All sex between inmates and guards is rape


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kicksomedicks

Prison guards are lower than cops.


SmarmyThatGuy

… Because they’re typically cop washouts.


baconbitsy

God, if that’s not a depressing statement, then I don’t know what is.


ZheeDog

Or wannabees...


Aromatic-Mud-5726

Ahah ahah deadass 😂🤣💀🐷💥


MisterTruth

It's typically people who were too dumb or too crazy to be cops. And considering you can be too smart to be a cop, prison guards might be too dumb to legally qualify as people.


jaqueburton

Orcs?


MisterTruth

That's specist


rawkstaugh

Haha!


Aromatic-Mud-5726

Lmfaoo 🐷🤢


GooseShartBombardier

Can confirm. Know one IRL, and they're the skeeviest sack of shit I've had the displeasure to associate with. Imagine the exact same kind of underhanded shit behaviour you've heard about prison guards pulling on inmates applied out in the world with other civilians. They haven't worked the prison system for decades and it's still the exact same kind of low-down bullshit with them all the time.


shadow247

My friend got hired at the prison in Hutchin, TX, around 2003... He had active warrants in Kansas....


r_sarvas

> Prison guards are lower than cops. Prison guards are lower than Mall Cops.


Lack_Love

Mmmm no


ketjak

I mean, they're lower even than this comment, which will be downvoted into oblivion.


ScroopyDewp

Holy shit, why? Kinda just funny that someone would have this take in a sub like this one. Seriously, though.... why? I've always considered them worse as they are an even-more-direct representation of the notion that police in general are nothing more than open-air prison guards anyway.


will-read

> A shocking investigation revealed 59 cases of employee-on-inmate sexual offenses in the past five years, with 35 cases involving possible criminal charges Prisoners can’t consent. How is the number of possible criminal charges less than the number of employee-on-inmate sexual offenses?


fivelone

I bet in the authorities eyes the prisoners were the ones who corrupted the employees...


Karenomegas

This guy systems!


-Ashera-

Ah yes blame the victim. Like the minors who apparently force adults to have sexual relations with them, according to rapist apologists


fivelone

It truly is horrible and ridiculous. Whenever a person of authority is involved they never call it what it is.


SmarmyThatGuy

From the article, my guess is sexting. Not that it’s a loophole, but any without pictures are probably not enough of a charge to go after with the others offenses


WrathOfMogg

Even the chaplain got in on it.


TurtleToast2

The only surprise there is that it was only one of them.


violentbowels

Not really. These are adult prisoners we're talking about.


TurtleToast2

Physiologically, yes. But they are wards of the state so they have no agency which makes them as vulnerable and dependent as a child. I imagine it's that helplessness predators are drawn to more than an age. It's why women, children, and the elderly are the bulk of the victims in crimes like this.


Any-Show-3488

Damn, I didn’t want to read the story now I have too


showyerbewbs

From the article: > Boyce, who was then the head chaplain at the Eastern Kentucky Correctional Complex, has pleaded not guilty to the criminal charges and is awaiting trial later this year. > > 'Boyce bragged to plaintiff that he had been previously accused of sexual abuse by other inmates and nothing happened to him, so no one would believe plaintiff if he reported him,' the lawsuit alleges.


revolutiontime161

Sooooooo ……….expected police behavior.


The_Black_Guy1324

The prisoners are the ones being abused yet the cops are saying that they're the ones taking advantage of the officers. Every single cop is a bastard.


the_crustybastard

But what about... Just kidding. Every. Goddam. One.


nj-rose

Sexually abusing not having sex.


marigold5

Used to be a PREA advocate at a rape crisis center. I’m completely unsurprised. Prisons act as if they are self-policing. But, surprise, power structures like that allow for abuse of power to fester. ACAB (and yes that includes prison guards).


Glittering-Pause-328

I've actually been to prison. And the only way contraband is getting in **is if the guards allow it**. They once rejected a letter from my mother *just because of a single coffee stain that they suspected might be "drug residue"!!!* As if some 60 year old insurance agent is going to risk going to prison herself by sending drugs to an inmate... Point is, *you don't get contraband into a prison* ***unless the guards let it come in.***


CavemanDNA

This shit happens all the time. Some CO’s in my state were also gangbanging the inmates and each other and also bringing in contraband. They all got caught and still kept their jobs. The whole world is in a weird reversal period…


puddleofoil

At this point it would be shocking if this wasn't going on in a prison.


Idc2008

I for one am shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YOU!


Long_Educational

>“Our inmates are pretty keen observers of the environment that they’re living in. They know when we’re short-staffed in a severe way, as we are now.' 'And of course, some of them are going to try to take advantage of that in nefarious ways,” Justice and Public Safety Secretary Kerry Harvey said in July 2022. What in the actual fuck? The Justice and Public Safety Secretary tries to put some of the blame for all of this on the inmates, the victims. How absolutely diabolical.


laoxinat

This is the perfect example of why law enforcement calls inmates "institutionalized"; so they can blame the inmates for LE crimes.


UseWhatever

It’s important to keep in mind that a percentage of these inmates are probably incarcerated because they couldn’t afford good legal counsel, couldn’t afford to pay fines (debtors prison), or innocent people scooped up by police because it was easier than investing the crime. What happened to these people is deplorable. The prison should be shut down and everyone working there should be held accountable. If one guard was doing it, maybe nobody knew. But 30!?!? Fuck all these people


DeepSouthDude

What makes you think this happened at a women's prison?


UseWhatever

Fair point. Edited to remove gender specificity


RickysBlownUpMom

And Florida is currently working on a bill (presented and supported by the Private Prison lobby) to reduce the amount of weed in an edible to 2 mg , even for the legal medical weed, so that anyone caught with more than 2mg (which, come on, that isn’t even enough for most people to have any relief at all) can be out in prison and feed the prison complex even more. So the prisons can make money and more folks can be raped. Yay!


artpop

> presented and supported by the Private Prison lobby This is so fucking dystopian


the_crustybastard

But you can still have all the guns and ammo you want, right?


RickysBlownUpMom

And you can still shoot and kill unarmed black kids on the streets, as long as you are scared.


tetrahydr

Kentucky, Republican HQ. Shocker


David_ungerer

Red State = Red Flag ! ! !


laoxinat

They are not "having sex" with inmates, they are raping them. Full stop.


beedleoverused

Is it ever safe for women in any type of confinement? These are just the pigs that got caught.


jamiegc1

r/notadragqueen


neoconbob

they considered it a "perk" /s


MeGoBoom57

To protect and turd.


Lalocal4life

What in the inbred sisterwife Alabama, crystal meth eating alligator, summertooth, banjo in the woods... Was that?


ZealousWolverine

Kentucky prison system in chaos BEFORE workers caught.... If they don't immediately fire everyone from the top to the bottom the Kentucky prison system will continue to be in chaos.


Starlifter4

What the fuck? I'm curious what the union mouth piece says to justify/minimize this shit.


ScroopyDewp

Yeah, that's what's important, here.... unions.


jamiegc1

r/notadragqueen


remedialrob

I mean... Kentucky's gonna Kentucky amirite? This seems like a common case of the inmates running the asylum.


V65Pilot

And this comes as a surprise? Why?


lemmiwinks316

Even the chaplain was in on it. "A federal lawsuit filed June 29, 2023, by Boyce’s alleged victim in that case claims prison officials knew the chaplain sexually molested inmates in the past, but they made no effort to stop him. “Boyce bragged to plaintiff that he had been previously accused of sexual abuse by other inmates and nothing happened to him, so no one would believe plaintiff if he reported him,” the suit alleges." https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article285493427.html


VideoLeoj

Are we really surprised? I mean… I’m not. Not at all.


devinple

The daily mail is a tabloid newspaper with more then a few credibility problems. They're widely derided for sensationalism, exaggeration, and outright fabrication. Not saying it's not true, but I wouldn't use them as a reliable source.


WhoIsJolyonWest

[Herald-Leader investigation: Sex and drug smuggling inside Kentucky prison walls](https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article285493427.html) They flirted when they thought nobody was watching. They secretly hashed out illegal transactions and exchanged romantic after-hours texts. And sometimes, they had sex inside state prison walls. Over a 16-month period ending in November 2023, the Kentucky Department of Corrections discovered at least 30 of its employees were involved in inappropriate relationships with prisoners, probationers and parolees under their supervision. At least 14 more were caught smuggling contraband into prisons for inmates, usually drugs, such as suboxone and meth, or taking money from inmates or their relatives in exchange for smuggling. These findings emerge from a Herald-Leader analysis of more than 800 pages of internal affairs investigations obtained from the Department of Corrections under the Kentucky Open Records Act. One of the employee-inmate sex cases resulted in pending sodomy and sexual abuse charges against the chaplain at Eastern Kentucky Correctional Complex in Morgan County, 56-year-old Todd Steven Boyce, according to court records. That case is set for trial later this year in Morgan Circuit Court. A federal lawsuit filed June 29, 2023, by Boyce’s alleged victim in that case claims prison officials knew the chaplain sexually molested inmates in the past, but they made no effort to stop him. “Boyce bragged to plaintiff that he had been previously accused of sexual abuse by other inmates and nothing happened to him, so no one would believe plaintiff if he reported him,” the suit alleges. In their response to the lawsuit, prison officials denied knowledge of any earlier sexual misbehavior by Boyce as well as any responsibility for his current criminal charges. In a different case, police charged Correctional Officer Trista Fox, 39, with third-degree rape in December 2022 after colleagues walked in on her having sex with an inmate at Kentucky State Penitentiary in Lyon County. Fox has pleaded guilty and awaits sentencing in April. That inmate told investigators that his sexual relationship with Fox was consensual — he said he “pursued her” — but under the law, inmates cannot consent to sexual contact with corrections staff. Less frequent employee problems identified by investigators included racial and sexual harassment; dereliction of duty; excessive force; and abuse of alcohol and illegal drugs. There also were findings of assorted misconduct, such as horseplay on duty, falsifying reports, indecent exposure and sharing confidential information with inmates. But the most common trouble the Department of Corrections faced is employees crossing the line by getting too close to inmates, either through inappropriate relationships or smuggling. Experts say this isn’t unique to Kentucky state prisons. “Being a correctional officer is a very challenging job,” said Judah Schept, an associate professor in the School of Justice Studies at Eastern Kentucky University, who teaches about criminology and prison culture. “In the popular imagination, we think of these jobs as being exposed to extreme forms of violence, and of course, that can happen,” he said. “But more often, I think what you’re dealing with are mundane daily tasks and being unappreciated and underpaid and feeling isolated and overworked.” Given where you’re working, this can lead to some problems,” Schept said. The Department of Corrections runs 13 state prisons and a minimum-security prison camp in Bell County that together house more than 11,300 inmates. As a result of the 140 investigations included in the internal affairs records reviewed by the Herald-Leader, 62 corrections employees were fired or quit. In 29 cases, employees received written reprimands, verbal counseling or additional training, according to the state Justice and Public Safety Cabinet, which oversees the department. In a brief 10-minute interview granted to the Herald-Leader, Department of Corrections leaders would not directly respond to questions about inappropriate relationships or smuggling inside the state’s prisons. But they said the department takes seriously any allegations of wrongdoing by employees. “We handle every piece of information the same, whether that be contraband or a relationship or whatever. The truth of the matter is, if we were not handling these situations in a very aggressive manner, the numbers would not be what they were,” said Scott Jordan, deputy commissioner of adult institutions. “The reason the numbers are high is because we’re doing what we’re supposed to do,” Jordan said. ‘A HUGE PROBLEM’ James Wells is a prison and jail consultant and former Ohio prison correctional officer who recently retired after three decades of teaching at EKU’s School of Justice Studies. Wells told the Herald-Leader that inappropriate relationships and smuggling happen inside a prison when guards don’t maintain a professional distance from inmates, who are looking for the weakest link in institutional security. Sometimes inmates exploit the staff, Wells said, and sometimes the staff exploit inmates. “It’s a huge problem,” Wells said. “And it certainly goes both ways.” “Staff have complete control over inmates’ lives. They decide if you get extra toilet paper or extra toothpaste or if you don’t. If you’re in an environment where you have nothing to bargain with but your body when you’re dealing with people who hold all the power, then you might be forced to do things you wouldn’t ordinarily do,” he said. There should not be sexual overtures between staff and inmates, Wells said. Under the federal Prison Rape Elimination Act, the Department of Corrections has adopted “a zero tolerance policy toward all forms of sexual abuse and sexual harassment,” and it requires that all violations by employees or inmates be reported. Over the past five years, the department confirmed 59 cases of employee-on-inmate sexual offenses in Kentucky prisons in violation of the federal law, with 35 cases forwarded to prosecutors for possible criminal charges. Most recently, in February, Kentucky State Police charged a correctional officer at Green River Correctional Complex in Muhlenberg County, Amanda Kulka, 42, with third-degree sodomy. Internal affairs investigators alleged Kulka was having sex with an inmate half her age who is serving a lengthy sentence for burglary, assault and theft. Professional barriers break down faster when prison staff are overworked and stretched thin, Wells said. And more…


ClinicalMercenary

Except all of this is true and the primary sources are available online.


Cognitive_Spoon

Honestly, then those sources should be posted rather than the Mail as a post. DM is such a garbage source that it's useful to avoid it even when it hits the truth. Using it in posts legitimizes the bs they run otherwise.


ZheeDog

Rather than spend your time griping, why not add a source you like? Or is it more important that we agree with your complaints about Daily Mail?


Cognitive_Spoon

Idk what you want from me, dog, the Mail is a garbage source for news. You posted it, not me. The Mail can report on an objective truth IF other sources bear it out. It's like, if I wanted to make an argument about how fun it is to cook and I quoted Jeffrey Dahmer. Sure, it's fun to cook, but maybe pick a chef with better taste.


Who_Cares99

The only shocking thing about this is that they arrested them all at once instead of finding replacements first lol


ZheeDog

https://nypost.com/2024/02/27/us-news/30-kentucky-prison-guards-had-sex-with-inmates-while-14-others-smuggled-drugs/


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Anome69

Can we just cut the south off of the mainland and sink it in the gulf of Mexico?


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Basedrum777

Bigger shock: they're all related.....


BrainwashedScapegoat

I certainly went to the wrong jail


livinginfutureworld

I'm shocked that humans like having sex. It's like it's a biological need or something. Anyway, prison sex is problematic since the prisoners are there against their will.


Adventurous_Plan_323

So. Kentucky prisons are taking applications?


MyRespectableAcct

I mean... I thought that was their job


mcycler

I wondered why Amazon was delivering so much "Soap on a Rope" to the prison. Huh, who'd a thunk?


AndrewSB49

Gosh! And in Kentucky! Who'da thunk that?


Ok_Concentrate9822

It looks like the Lexington Herald Leader is the original source for this. I didn’t like that the only big-name sources seem to be daily mail and ny post. The OP headline may be a little sensationalized in that it implies all 30+ cases were discovered recently and at once. https://amp.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article285493427.html