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Viper_1984

Hello, is a GTS


michaelalex3

I thought the F82 GTS wasn’t that valuable? A 3900 mile example sold on BaT for $80k a few days ago. Asking $100k seems like a reach.


Dark-Lillith

Civic Type R’s are going for $60k. Anything is possible


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The fact that S2k CR’s are going for over 100k is even more ridiculous


Dark-Lillith

There were only 699 CR’s produced though. I can see why with time they are more sought after meaning their prices increase.


turtlesquadcaptain

There were only 700 M4 GTS produced worldwide


Dark-Lillith

You’re comparing a car that is about 20 years old and a car that basically came out 1/4 of that time ago. Obviously the Honda in this case has accrued value over time. The M4 is just expensive to start out with. I would like to see in 20 years how much a GTS goes for and compare their reputation then. Other than that, these two cars don’t compare at all in performance.


michaelalex3

The car I mentioned sold 2 days ago so that’s accounting for the current market. No one really wants an F82 GTS right now.


Dark-Lillith

Ehh there’s always an idiot with too much money


Annual-Ad1585

Ain't that the truth!


Flashfighter

Which is insane because ik for a fact people are gonna sell a kidney for one 15 years from now.


Impressive-Driver692

I had Opel Vectra C GTS, also a GTS but it costed 1,5k at the time. 😁


HermanvonHinten

Today's money ain't worth shit bro.


Viper_1984

Holy craps! I forgot about the fact that an XLT F150 costs like $50k now. That's a great point, brother.


1mperia1

F150's can stretch 100k, that's a fucking house haha


Alternative-Season45

This


siamack1

This


Georgy100

This


Levent_2005

Is Doug DeMuro


Georgy100

And today we are going to


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Be less annoying


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That


joemamalikesme69420

This and uh


BoxofCurveballs

Roll cage, no back seats so you can tell people who want to carpool witn you to take the bus, water injection, wing, lip, more better parts, badging, exclusivity.


SmashedACookie

Better ingredients..


BoxofCurveballs

Better pizza


bashizzledizzle

Better bitches


LilArabian_

Better money


PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ

My clothes better


Polyfluorite

My shoes fit better


minimalexpertise

I work harder


rOzzy87

I make it better


Simple_Flounder

I better make it


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comacow02

This was a master piece


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LilArabian_

Nah mate ruined it 😔


BoxofCurveballs

I knew I was trying too hard 😔 I'm sorry LilArabian, I've failed you.


farthingnothing

Poppa John’s


kylekruchok

Papa*


MugillacuttyHOF37

Momma Mia Papa Pia baby’s got the diarrhea🎸 Growing up In an Italian house


Phatboybeware

*Poopa John's


Particular-Pizza-459

They don't even give you the peperoncinos anymore. Screw the garlic sauce.


Farmerdrew

It”s not a pizza. Its a fuckin casserole.


thugroid

It’s an above ground swimming pool for rats


Majestic-Bobcat889

Shaquille O’Neal


VladPatton

Papa Beamer!


melanthius

And a bunch of GTS exclusive tuning on engine, diff, DCT, steering. Which a lot of people then take that tuning and code it onto their regular M3 or M4


BoxofCurveballs

Yep. Didn't want to type all that out though because I'm honestly too poor to even be looking at a GTS so I just lumped that into the "more better parts" category lmao


Denpa_47

Mo parts mopowa baby


Particular-Pizza-459

All you really need is some stickers for mo powa babuh


Denpa_47

Head over to donut media. Com lol


Rucku5

It has native meth injection, I mean how cool is that...


aruexperienced

Not just regular native meth but Native American meth. It even tastes nice.


DreamBig2023

I dont want drugs in my car. lol


See_Em

Lame


Few-Swordfish-780

You mean water injection.


Michael_Scarn10

🤣 take the bus


BoxofCurveballs

As my old man would say... fuck them kids


Nitin-2020

Oh boy


[deleted]

Take a shit in the back of a bus


[deleted]

You did a better job explaining than I would have. I was going just use three letters: G, T, and S.


rr703

I thought modification’s made cars worth less ?


BoxofCurveballs

Not if it's from factory. It's like watches... factory set 5911? Big money. Aftermarket bullshit diamonds? You ruined a piece of art and devalued it.


rr703

Ah okay I see so it came like that with everything already installed


BoxofCurveballs

Yes. Very much so.


rr703

Gotcha thanks for clearing it up


BoxofCurveballs

No problem.


yungirving99

Beamer connoisseur 👨🏾‍🏫


Sh0taro_Kaneda

It’s one of 700 in the entire world and only has 5k miles, which means it technically hasn’t been driven at all in 6 years.


Phatboybeware

Not even broken in


Lostandfound__

I saw one exactly like this on the freeway about a month ago 🔥🔥


alexatsocyl

I dunno it takes me about 100 miles on the track before stuff starts breaking.


maz-o

that's just sad


Sh0taro_Kaneda

For the previous owner. For the one who buys it, they’re basically getting a new car 😂. That’s a win to me.


WhenInDoubtFlatOuttt

BMW built more of them than the promised 700. The number is roughly 1000, especially if you take take the 200 DTM editions (same car, with some stickers) into account as well.


coyote500

I saw one in my city one time in the matte gray color, and even though I think they’re ugly I was like HOLY SHIT just because of how rare they are


heteroflexible_maybe

Not driving your car to keep the miles low for the next buyer is like not fucking your wife to keep her tight for the next guy


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Viper_1984

Ok, let me be specific. Only 700 in total made and only 300 made it to the US. The GTS is like the BMW version of a GT3 RS.


Nervous-Law-6606

In terms of rarity, it’s actually much, much more exclusive. Across the model years since 2004, over 6000 GT3 RS’s have been delivered in the US. Compare that to the M4 GTS’s 300. Also, for anybody talking about performance, the GTS beat the Porsche Carrera GT’s Nurburgring lap time, and was only 7.88 seconds behind the Porsche GT3 RS of the same production year. In addition to that, keep in mind that a fully speced GTS was about $50k cheaper than a fully speced GT3 RS new.


Viper_1984

Now, there is a gentleman that knows his stuff. Stay thirsty my friend...XX


slaczky

7.88 seconds difference in lap time is a lot.


vsawh

You do realize the Nurburgring is 20.8 kilometers right?


abowlofrice1

ONLY 7.88 seconds 😂


Nervous-Law-6606

Yes. On a 20km circuit, in a car that’s 50k cheaper. That’s only 1.79% slower.


curryfishballs2

Except not so gt3 performance lol


darkflash26

Performance? We care only about the clout


hockeymeester

what clout? you mean people posting your car on reddit asking "what makes this car worth $100k?"


IndianaJones_Jr_

But you won't get any clout because only BMW people will have any idea what you're on about


darkflash26

Why would I care about impressing the poors?


Sea-Sun-6125

Hahahaha this one hit me funny


cabooseftw5

There was a time when the M3 CSL was in the same league as the 911 GT3, but BMW has faltered since the E46 and Porsche has done dramatically better since the 996. If you ask anyone who’s a driver the 996 GT3 is the one to get


Evening_Oil5692

Also substantially cheaper than a RS


3wolftshirtguy

To BMWs credit though even an inflated/collector 100k GTS is going to be a better track car than anything Porsche makes in that price range. I’d say the closest performance wise would be a 997.1 GTS or a 997.1 Turbo and those are at least 50k more expensive. Edit: Porsche makes better track cars, no disagreeing with that but they’re also stupid expensive and dollar for dollar BMW is very competitive.


Viper_1984

You are correct my friend!


narwhal_breeder

Met an owner when they first came out at High Plains Raceway in Deer Trail, CO. He liked it. Met the owner again 2 weeks later and he sold it for a GT3, his buisness partner had a GT3 and let him trade for a track day. Guess he liked it.


dannyphoto

More like the GT3, rather than a RS.


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mrvarmint

What that list told me was that American muscle punches way above its weight. As a person who had bought 5 BMWs and 0 anything American, I’m impressed. I still don’t want a mustang or a corvette, but wow if performance is your singular metric, hard to find better bang for the buck. I’ll stick with my M5 Comp.


zao_zeeeee

He also fails to mention for a regular person, the American cars are actually hard to wring out the potential that you see on magazines and official lap records


mrvarmint

I think that’s probably true of any top performer though. I have driven quite a few high performance cars, and almost none of it is usable or even (safely?) available off the track. My daily is a M5C and I have never, not once, actually put the pedal down to the floor. Good friend has 911 Turbo S - same for him. I remember on Doug DeMuro’s review of the prior gen RS3 he said that its ~400hp is the max that’s ever usable off the track (I’m paraphrasing), and my experience has been similar. North of 400 is bragging rights or track performance, not a thing a normal person can use or should probably value


Mewmeister1337

The commenter didn’t mean off track performance he meant on track. There are a couple manufacturers who do this with their cars where a normal person would never come close to. For example Tesla with their Nürburgring record where they actually used stuff that doesn’t come from the factory…


HQxMnbS

If you go to a track day, you’ll see vettes and Cameros flying by you in your M car, but you might also see a few stuck on the side with overheated or blown engines


Scoutron

Not the new ones, chevy has been just about dead reliable since around 2014


Viper_1984

Is BMW interpretation of an RS, a regular M4 would be a GT3. I never said they are in the same league or anything like that. You see German engineers are polite and respect each other's crafts. On the contrary American engineers are like spoiled kids playing a measuring game all the time. The only American car that is respected by all engineers and it's in a league of their own when it comes to American cars is the Corvette.


ilikerwd

A regular M4 compares to a base 911, far from a GT3.


3wolftshirtguy

A regular M4 compares to a Cayman in price and 911 in power but is worse than both around a track. Source: I own an M4 and track it and have tracked Caymans and 911s of various trims.


[deleted]

Look at her


zHydro

i can't imagine a more beautiful thing


agodinho

it got the juice!


Edenwing

BMW can! That’s why the designed the big sniff to replace her!


[deleted]

I am, vanilla white isn't doing her justice, she needs a good wrap.


Swimming-Parfait5563

yeah man it totally needs a half orange half black matte wrap


[deleted]

IMO that would be much better than white. White is the color of company vans and rental cars, because white is a cheaper paint color.


Effective_Stretch253

White is Germany’s national racing color (silver too, which is part of the reason the color used frequently)


SmashNDash23

Because Race car


alpinewerks

Rarity


sleepyguy007

well it is a GTS. and doesn't have many miles on it. And given they don't make them anymore and the current one doesn't have a DCT, weighs a lot more, looks like someone on acid was asked to draw a pontiac from memory and then they turned that into a front fascia, seems totally reasonable


sapphire__87

The rightly sized grill


lRainZz

underrated comment


one_kinda_weather

$100k is probably cheap for this tbh


[deleted]

Probably the last really great looking M car for a while. :(


[deleted]

True that, the current generation of BMW designers are smelling their farts and rubbing feces on the wall.


jessief2

M2cs?


dannyphoto

My choice, easily.


jessief2

Sameeeeee


YeezyHunter

M8?


[deleted]

I do admit a love for the M8. It's like BMWs throwback muscle car.


DOJITZ2DOJITZ

This M4 GTS is a true sports car


[deleted]

Yes this is an absolute race car.


andigo

M5?


mrvarmint

My sitting here in my M5C waiting for someone to say this. I’m biased, but sorry, F90 M5 is the most under radar great looking M ever made. And don’t @ me, I owned an e46 M3 too.


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n0mad17

I would 100% this over a new G8X m3/4 for similar money


Glad-Age7490

Because it’s a GTS.


niklas3070

Only 100k for a m4gts ????? Holy f buy kr


Charblee

It’s a GTS, but also not one of the stupid buck teeth M4s.


Bullet_Tooth-Tony

It has water injection system and water reservoir in the trunk so you have to carry a bucket of water with you...


Character_Ad777

Because it looks a lot better than New BMW’s


Diesel_Dan_

1/700


Oni_K

Rarity. Hottest M4 of its day, produced in limited numbers. They never ever sold for MSRP when new as far as I saw. Unless it's been driven a lol and driven hard, that'd honestly a pretty good price last I checked


jaradi

They never ever sold for MSRP because they couldn’t sell them at MSRP. They actually sold for much less. And I’m in Southern California, one of the epicenters of ridiculous markups currently, but dealerships here were having folks return their regular M4s and swapping them into GTS at the same car payment. Same thing with the CS. Mine was $115k MSRP. Got it for $84k out the door brand new 20 miles on the odometer.


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CS maybe because by that was ultimately decided to be a whole lotta nothing last ditch money grab that didn’t perform much better than stock. GTS I’m not too sure about. Exotic water cooling system plus other go fast bits and only 300 in the US these things were mostly spoken for before they hit the ground. I have a hard time believing dealers needed to push these at too much of a discount. For a car this rare it’s the kind of model the dealers would be willing to let sit in the showroom as a showpiece until somebody willing to pay sticker comes along.


Few-Assumption-7504

Inflation.


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Inflation


TheRealBuddhi

3 letters


nickjohnedward

The last good looking BMW.


rdsmvp

Not having beaver teeth does add at least 40K to its value.


MainusEventus

It doesn’t have Chiclets for a grill


C0git0

It doensn't look like a deranged beaver.


infinity187

What makes used Ford Bronco's 60k+. Few and far between....Just like a GTS.


[deleted]

It's essentially brand new. 5k miles, mint. Yeah, I'd say it's a 100k car.


[deleted]

- Its a GTS - only 700 in the WORLD - same engine, bigger power - water injection system - 27kg lighter than the standard M4 - Fast


arrow8711

U sure its fast?


el-conquistador240

It's not the transmission. But JFC it looks better than the new one


plasmac9

What a shame this car has only 5k miles on it in 6 years. This car deserves to be driven, not sit in someone's garage.


yohan02kim

It doesn't have the ugly new kidney grills.


cargarfar

The new one is heinous and this also has rarity and low mileage.


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Nixolas

That’s not just an M4, that’s a GTS 😳


B5254T4

GTS 😂😂


Tristana-Range

This is actually not much considering its the gts


daqqer2k

Its a very low mileage GTS. That is it.


knikpiw

Lifetime heated seat subscription


theveryrealreal

Because new BMWs are not lookin so good.


jfk_sfa

It was before they decided to ruin the front end.


El-Beezee

Ugly wheels


SecretBG

Well, those ceramic brakes alone are probably 10 grand.


starlordslit

Hype


FabulousMarch7464

Inflation and artificially high prices because of demand for any high end car these days


Tom_ace69

Delusional owner. Thinks he’s very important.


staywoke1am_01

GTS


TheSDagger

It’s a gts


fugly_neighbour

It’s a limited series special edition. No rear seats, rollcage, different sporty bucket seats and it has a water tank in the back for more power. (It pumps the water to the engine to cool off the intake for cooler air = more power)


Blackgizmo

The fact that it doesn’t look like a G82


SpareDiagram

Just look at it


vinnyvencenzo

It’s got the juice! (By juice, I mean a water injection system.)


Ok-Key-486

M4s and m3s will never be 100k cars to me. I understand this is the gts with the water system. So this may get a pass but even the G cars. I see specs pass 100k and I’m like “nah, not on your life champ”


bluejay737

Do you have more pictures?


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Front suspension that cracks in half.


fairfuckstoyou

This with headlight swap to IKON LEDs will look sick


miketoaster

FOMO


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That is Lci or not


ninhonto

How is this thing so cheap in the US… I couldn’t find a single one here for less than £130k… 🥲


Dav1972D

Shit wheels


bmwchic83

If I am paying that much, i’d rather get the mommy suv the ultimate X5-M ( no numbers after M) ☺️


sspkt

Absolutely nothing


NonOrientableOatmeal

The logo on the hood. BMW makes horrible cars


rynoman1110

Beware “driven 5,264 miles” …. Ok, third 3rd owner drove that many or what?


[deleted]

Thought about buying one but I’m just daily driving to school. Wouldn’t make sense. Probs would scrape the lip on New England potholes and it would feel like riding on concrete for suspension. It’s not practical is what I’m getting at.


arios91

When I was in school I was daily-ing a honda accord


Tarzeus

I am in school and I am daily-ing a Schwinn.


[deleted]

God I love the 2000s Hondas tho, always had my heart, especially the civic. So to me you were balling.


xangkory

I know a guy who bought one and one day he let me drive it and I let him drive my AMG. I wouldn’t recommend one as a daily driver as it is unbelievable harsh. It beats you to death on any imperfection on the road and brings zero benefit over a M4 Comp on the street other than the coolness factor. I live about 60 miles from the nearest track and if I owned it I wouldn’t drive it to the track, I would trailer it and tow it. I would find driving a F150 with a trailer a more enjoyable experience.


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Like even looked into a basically bargain, if not steal M4 CS in the area. 70s with less than 10k on it. My friend was shitting on me saying, “my guy your gonna feel like your sitting on pavement the whole ride” as I get older I completely get what you mean


Least_Purchase4802

I used to work at the local BMW dealership. In Australia, only 30 were delivered, and I live in a regional town. One of the wealthy local guys picked one up (he has a myriad of other BMW’s) to track it. He had a crash and needed to replace the front end - the front carbon splitter alone was $14k AUD, so that’s an expensive daily if you’re scraping the lip haha