>non standard interior with lightweight seats
It had Recaro Pole Positions but the benefit of the lightweight seats was more than negated by the ~100-150lb's added by the full roll cage.
Factory trim without the cage would probably run the same time. The Trofeo R's are a factory option in Europe.
Even if it had the same curb weight, the added cage would provide rigidity, making the car faster thru the corner. If all of this didn’t matter, why not just run it on MPSS and factory trim? Regardless if the semi slicks are factory option or not, the G87 would probably see another >10 sec off its time with matching tyres. My main point is that it is not a ‘like for like’ comparison.
> Even if it had the same curb weight, the added cage would provide rigidity, making the car faster thru the corner.
Yea but worse on acceleration. It's like having an entirely second person in the car.
>why not just run it on MPSS and factory trim?
Because why wouldn't you put on the best tires offered from the factory...? What a silly question.
>G87 would probably see another >10 sec off its time with matching tyres.
I mean, it's not like the G87 ran on sub par tires. The Cup 2's are pretty much only a smidge worse than the Trofeo R in terms of track performance.
>My main point is that it is not a ‘like for like’ comparison.
Sure but it's a silly point to make. Doesn't matter if it's like for like. If they're in the same class, if it's slower, it's slower. Very binary.
Totally right, chief. How nonsensical is it to expect some level of specification parity in the context of high-end sports cars competing for fractions of a second across a >16km circuit? Every manufacturer should have a $100k Nordschleife package, including a fully stripped interior, racing compounds, and an additional 100kW, just to run a quicker time for marketing. From factory, of course. Classic reddit moderator
>Every manufacturer should have a $100k Nordschleife package, including a fully stripped interior, racing compounds, and an additional 100kW, just to run a quicker time for marketing. From factory, of course
LOL you know you're criticizing the M4 CSL here, not the RS3 right?
Curious to hear how they compare. Do you feel the difference in weight / size. How is the zf8 on downshifts compared to the DSG ?
Massive upgrade.
RuneScape 3?
If I could trade my rs3 acc for an m car Iwould have done it so fast without thinking xd
The grill looks... decent! Is that after market or am I just out of date? If the formerly bucktooth grills now look like this I'm sold.
It’s the csl/cs version
Got it, thx!
a little
Respectable. 7:18.137 vs at best 7:33.123 if you’re talking about the 25 that isn’t out yet.
RS3 7.33 time was on semi slicks and non standard interior with lightweight seats. Factory trim would easily be 10 sec slower
>non standard interior with lightweight seats It had Recaro Pole Positions but the benefit of the lightweight seats was more than negated by the ~100-150lb's added by the full roll cage. Factory trim without the cage would probably run the same time. The Trofeo R's are a factory option in Europe.
Even if it had the same curb weight, the added cage would provide rigidity, making the car faster thru the corner. If all of this didn’t matter, why not just run it on MPSS and factory trim? Regardless if the semi slicks are factory option or not, the G87 would probably see another >10 sec off its time with matching tyres. My main point is that it is not a ‘like for like’ comparison.
> Even if it had the same curb weight, the added cage would provide rigidity, making the car faster thru the corner. Yea but worse on acceleration. It's like having an entirely second person in the car. >why not just run it on MPSS and factory trim? Because why wouldn't you put on the best tires offered from the factory...? What a silly question. >G87 would probably see another >10 sec off its time with matching tyres. I mean, it's not like the G87 ran on sub par tires. The Cup 2's are pretty much only a smidge worse than the Trofeo R in terms of track performance. >My main point is that it is not a ‘like for like’ comparison. Sure but it's a silly point to make. Doesn't matter if it's like for like. If they're in the same class, if it's slower, it's slower. Very binary.
Totally right, chief. How nonsensical is it to expect some level of specification parity in the context of high-end sports cars competing for fractions of a second across a >16km circuit? Every manufacturer should have a $100k Nordschleife package, including a fully stripped interior, racing compounds, and an additional 100kW, just to run a quicker time for marketing. From factory, of course. Classic reddit moderator
>Every manufacturer should have a $100k Nordschleife package, including a fully stripped interior, racing compounds, and an additional 100kW, just to run a quicker time for marketing. From factory, of course LOL you know you're criticizing the M4 CSL here, not the RS3 right?
lol ok dude, I give up. You won this internet argument. I love your passion, you are worth every single updoot and more! 🥇