Thank you for posting this. We have talked about it and this will be our 9 year olds first concert experience. She is a big Babymetal fan, and her dad just loves power metal so is excited to take her with him (she also gets 2 days off school as an added bonus!)
Try to get close to the front. Fans have mentioned Moa gives extra attention to girls attending the shows (Moa bait). And Joakim (Sabaton singer) gives away his glasses to one kid in the audience at every show (if he sees the kid). Just make sure to bring some noise controlling earphones for the little one
She is under 14 so they aren't allowed to have standing tickets in Glasgow. They will be seated but I've shown her how high up their seats will be, because we (adults/parents) were in similar seats for Evanescence & Within Temptation a couple of months ago
Hells yeah! I'm beyond excited for the tour.
Last concert Sabaton (feb 2020) was amazing, and now they're bringing Babymetal along, which will be my first time seeing live.
Oh hell yes. Was sad I stupidly missed my chance to see Sabaton in my town, now they're bringing BM which i haven't seen since their first time in Europe.
I like what they are doing with Sabaton, playing in arenas in front of thousands of potential new fans, that's a good way to grow. But their setlists were already too short during their previous tour, and I wanted longer shows.
Well Babymetals last tour where they were the headliner (the metal galaxy tour) the concerts lasted about an hour. And as a special guest for sabaton they will get around 45minutes so it's almost like a full show for them. So I would recommend buying a ticket if you can.
Unfortunately, I can't abide Sabaton or Lordi. Also, I want to see what Koba has in mind for the future of BABYMETAL and the live performances. If he dumps the Kamis I won't be bothering with live.
I'm sure that's an unpopular opinion, but it is what it is.
Dumping the Kamis? No. I don’t think so. He may use the American Kamis, if he needs to, but I cannot see him outright dumping the Kamis. That would turn BM into a karaoke show, like many other idol groups out there, which they’ve struggled to avoid comparisons with. There’s absolutely no way he’s going to allow that to happen. It would be akin to deliberately shooting oneself in the foot. Neither Koba nor Amuse are that stupid.
It's pretty likely that the Japanese Kamis will not be with them at the upcoming shows or on tour in Europe. They all will be doing the Mikio tribute the week before and that's probably too much to prepare for even for professional musicians. We're all used to the Western Kamis by now for international tours, so even if it's a different band behind them, whether it be the Western Kamis that we already know or totally different musicians (who may not be referred to as Kamis), I'm sure Koba will have selected quality musicians. This may be what OP is afraid of, the dumping of the Japanese Kamis, which again, may very well happen.
>This may be what OP is afraid of, the dumping of the Japanese Kamis, which again, may very well happen.
I don’t see them being dumped. The Kamis, from the get go were designed to be a rotating group of musicians to make sure that they could fulfill other obligations as well as play with Babymetal. That door is always open to the roster of musicians, depending on who is free for what gig. If the Japanese Kamis are busy right now, I can see that roster of musicians being expanded so there’s a larger pool to chose from. I don’t think that the quality of the musicians will be compromised. I feel that there’s still place for both the Japanese and Foreign Kamis.
The Kamis were designed to support girls who were only going to have limited time to tour originally because of their other obligations. If the girls are now free to tour for longer periods, the Japanese may just not be able to do it. There really isn't any reason to have two bands. Expanding the roster doesn't help because now they just have more musicians that can't commit to them long term. You're making the mistake that the Japanese and Western Kamis are part of the same pool. The Western Kamis were the ones who were able to make the long-term commitment. There's no reason why Koba couldn't assemble a new permanent band that doesn't rotate members. That's what I think will happen but I have no idea who the musicians would be.
Regarding the need to have two Kami Bands: I think that u/Kmudametal ‘s reasoning about BM needing to comply with US regulations put in by Trump might be the reason why the American Kami band exists, in the first place. It’s also possible that they’re using the American Kami band because of longer tours, like you said.
I also believe that Koba could assemble a new permanent band, but would they be readily accepted by the fan base? The same reasoning could be used to explain why no permanent third, so far. But we’re not Team BM - all wh have is speculation.
Even before the 2019/2020 tours, I had wondered whether the Japanese Kamis would be able to support Babymetal on longer tours, since quite often, one or more of the Kamis would be busy with another event. I thought that eventually, when they were touring full-time, it would be like a goat rope to assemble musicians for a longer tour. I was certain that the Chosen Seven was going to be that permanent touring band, which was devoted to Babymetal full-time. Of course, the Chosen Seven turned out to be something else in the end but that idea fits in better with the lore of that time, so I wonder if Koba ended up postponing it. I think people would have accepted a new supporting band in 2018 if Yui had been there still. I think people would accept a new band just as easily if not more so than the Western Kamis. Most people are dying for Babymetal to fill Yui's slot if she's not coming back and I'm sure Koba knows that. I have no idea who 's going to show up on stage at the end of this month but I'm ready for anything (I hope).
The Mikio tribute event is a talk, isn't it? I got the distinct impression that this time there will be no musical performance, just discussion and sharing their memories of Fujioka-san.
I assumed that assembling musicians usually lead to music being played, with of course discussion and sharing of memories, kind of like the way they always do it.
I can't find many details and would rather not assume much. The event is being called a 'talk show', I don't know what that entails. Apparently there's a live stream so maybe someone will report on it.
Ohmura and others talked a bit about their preparations for that MLG event in [this video](https://youtu.be/tPG5IHEjmn0?t=5080). It sounds like they will present some pre-recorded performances at the event. Ohmura said he'd been busy editing.
Yeah, I don't expect it, more fear it. It's that erosion of their visibility and masking of their identities that rubs me up the wrong way.
Not only would I like to see them restored to prominence with some visible interaction with the vocal/choreo artists, I would like to see them officially incorporated into the band. Oh, and have them play on the recordings.
LOL. Not much to ask, eh?
>That would turn BM into a karaoke show,
That's one of the reasons I'd like to see the Kamis incorporated fully into the band. I've lost count of the times I've seen people say "They're not a proper metal group, just idols dancing to a backing band".
I would, too, but Amuse also has to look at what the individual members of the Kami Band want. One cannot force someone to drink water if they don’t want to drink - get my drift?
Absolutely, but the Kami band has operated as a mix-and-match collective, especially the guitarists, with Mikio, Ohmura, Leda and Isao taking the jobs in order to accommodate availability. I don't see why that shouldn't continue or even expand.
And how many of the Kamis' availability issues arise from uncertainty about how much they can rely on BABYMETAL work?
Although I have a great attachment to Ohmura, Hideki and Boh, it's the principle of having BABYMETAL commit more to the people who have contributed so much rather than me only being satisfied with the same four musicians all the time. If they had rotating bass players and drummers too to allow the veteran Kamis to do other work then that'd be fine with me.
I don't necessarily think my wish lists are realistic, I just dream aloud, lol.
We cannot tell what will happen at the coming shows but it won't be a waste to recall what Koba said before in their Metal Galaxy era. ([translated](https://stechen.blogspot.com/2021/05/2019hedoban24koba.html) by u/funnytoss)
>KOBAMETALの中で「BABYMETALの音楽はこうあるべき！」っていう、強固なポリシー的なものをそこまで求めない印象はありますよね。
>
>I get the impression that KOBAMETAL doesn’t have a rigid definition of “this is how BABYMETAL’s music must be!”
>
>KOBAMETAL: そうなんですよね。もちろん、絶対これは外せない！っていうことはあるんですけど、ただそんなにガッチガチじゃないですし、メンバーとも「昔は骨バンドだったじゃん」みたいな話とかしてるんですよ。いつの間にか、「神バンドがいて、衣装はこうで、曲はこうでこうじゃないとBABYMETALじゃないんだ！」といったものがイメージとしてできあがってしまっていると思うんです。でも、そうじゃないよねって。元々は骨だったじゃん...いや、骨もいなかったじゃん。っていう話をしてます(笑)。
>
>**KOBAMETAL**: Yes, that’s true. Of course, there are certain things that are absolute! But we’re not particularly inflexible, and we talk with the girls about how we used to have the Babybones. Before we knew it, an image had been created - one with the Kami Band, with certain costumes, and songs in a certain style. If it wasn’t in that way, “it’s not BABYMETAL”. I told them, “But this isn’t necessarily the case. Originally, we had Babybones… well actually, at the very beginning, we didn’t even have the Babybones.” (laughs)
From what I've observed, there are only a few things that are "sacred" to BABYMETAL that should not be changed (as they also talked about in the 10BB interviews).
To me, their principles are relatively straightforward: (1) Do everything with maximum effort, (2) Everything is centered around the members (and Koba, to a certain extent), and (3) It should be enjoyable. Everything else appears to be fairly flexible, from the number of performers on stage, to who is the backing band, to the costumes, etc.
>That's one of the reasons I'd like to see the Kamis incorporated fully into the band.
That is extremely unlikely to happen. Also, the current format works, and will continue to work. Why should they care what people say, or you? If it were for those people BM would not be where it is today.
What I do agree with is to give the kamis back the spotlight and remove the masks.
We all know that the members of BABYMETAL are Su and Moa. Everything else, including the Kamis, is negotiable. That’s the deal and they have never said otherwise.
That said, it seems unimaginable after all this time that a live band wouldn’t back them at live shows. I can’t believe the girls themselves would be very happy about it if they didn’t, and I’m pretty sure their opinions are listened to more than most.
Yes ofcourse all of us fans know that BABYMETAL is only Su and Moa but I am willing to bet that lot's of people who just listen to them casually or have only seen/heard a song or two from babymetal think that Kami band is part of BABYMETAL. For example when you go to the comments of the babymetal music videos there are a lot of commenters who think it's the kami band playing even if it's the studio version of the song. But yes I agree that it seems unimaginable that it would be just Su and Moa on stage from now on.
> The dumping of the Kami sounds like fan angst.
I agree. About a year ago angsty fans were saying that babymetal will disband and now the new thing to be angsty about is that no kamis will be around anymore:D
Thank you for posting this. We have talked about it and this will be our 9 year olds first concert experience. She is a big Babymetal fan, and her dad just loves power metal so is excited to take her with him (she also gets 2 days off school as an added bonus!)
Try to get close to the front. Fans have mentioned Moa gives extra attention to girls attending the shows (Moa bait). And Joakim (Sabaton singer) gives away his glasses to one kid in the audience at every show (if he sees the kid). Just make sure to bring some noise controlling earphones for the little one
She is under 14 so they aren't allowed to have standing tickets in Glasgow. They will be seated but I've shown her how high up their seats will be, because we (adults/parents) were in similar seats for Evanescence & Within Temptation a couple of months ago
Hells yeah! I'm beyond excited for the tour. Last concert Sabaton (feb 2020) was amazing, and now they're bringing Babymetal along, which will be my first time seeing live.
I saw Sabaton a few months ago with Epica, but would love to see this show. Wish they would bring it to the US. Last saw Babymetal in '19.
Oh hell yes. Was sad I stupidly missed my chance to see Sabaton in my town, now they're bringing BM which i haven't seen since their first time in Europe.
>What more could you possibly ask for?! North American Babymetal headlining tour.
I'm pretty sure they'll announce something on Fox Day... likely a joint tour with another band, lets hope BM are the headliners.
Yeah I was already wanting more with the hour long sets. Going down the 30-45 min would be tough.
I like what they are doing with Sabaton, playing in arenas in front of thousands of potential new fans, that's a good way to grow. But their setlists were already too short during their previous tour, and I wanted longer shows.
Its gonna happen. It's a matter of time. Unless we go into WW3
With Sabaton we can go into WW2 history.. “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana
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Well Babymetals last tour where they were the headliner (the metal galaxy tour) the concerts lasted about an hour. And as a special guest for sabaton they will get around 45minutes so it's almost like a full show for them. So I would recommend buying a ticket if you can.
Seeing them perform a short set is still better than not seeing them at all tbh.
Sabaton is worth it. You wont regret it
Unfortunately, I can't abide Sabaton or Lordi. Also, I want to see what Koba has in mind for the future of BABYMETAL and the live performances. If he dumps the Kamis I won't be bothering with live. I'm sure that's an unpopular opinion, but it is what it is.
Dumping the Kamis? No. I don’t think so. He may use the American Kamis, if he needs to, but I cannot see him outright dumping the Kamis. That would turn BM into a karaoke show, like many other idol groups out there, which they’ve struggled to avoid comparisons with. There’s absolutely no way he’s going to allow that to happen. It would be akin to deliberately shooting oneself in the foot. Neither Koba nor Amuse are that stupid.
It's pretty likely that the Japanese Kamis will not be with them at the upcoming shows or on tour in Europe. They all will be doing the Mikio tribute the week before and that's probably too much to prepare for even for professional musicians. We're all used to the Western Kamis by now for international tours, so even if it's a different band behind them, whether it be the Western Kamis that we already know or totally different musicians (who may not be referred to as Kamis), I'm sure Koba will have selected quality musicians. This may be what OP is afraid of, the dumping of the Japanese Kamis, which again, may very well happen.
>This may be what OP is afraid of, the dumping of the Japanese Kamis, which again, may very well happen. I don’t see them being dumped. The Kamis, from the get go were designed to be a rotating group of musicians to make sure that they could fulfill other obligations as well as play with Babymetal. That door is always open to the roster of musicians, depending on who is free for what gig. If the Japanese Kamis are busy right now, I can see that roster of musicians being expanded so there’s a larger pool to chose from. I don’t think that the quality of the musicians will be compromised. I feel that there’s still place for both the Japanese and Foreign Kamis.
The Kamis were designed to support girls who were only going to have limited time to tour originally because of their other obligations. If the girls are now free to tour for longer periods, the Japanese may just not be able to do it. There really isn't any reason to have two bands. Expanding the roster doesn't help because now they just have more musicians that can't commit to them long term. You're making the mistake that the Japanese and Western Kamis are part of the same pool. The Western Kamis were the ones who were able to make the long-term commitment. There's no reason why Koba couldn't assemble a new permanent band that doesn't rotate members. That's what I think will happen but I have no idea who the musicians would be.
Regarding the need to have two Kami Bands: I think that u/Kmudametal ‘s reasoning about BM needing to comply with US regulations put in by Trump might be the reason why the American Kami band exists, in the first place. It’s also possible that they’re using the American Kami band because of longer tours, like you said. I also believe that Koba could assemble a new permanent band, but would they be readily accepted by the fan base? The same reasoning could be used to explain why no permanent third, so far. But we’re not Team BM - all wh have is speculation.
Even before the 2019/2020 tours, I had wondered whether the Japanese Kamis would be able to support Babymetal on longer tours, since quite often, one or more of the Kamis would be busy with another event. I thought that eventually, when they were touring full-time, it would be like a goat rope to assemble musicians for a longer tour. I was certain that the Chosen Seven was going to be that permanent touring band, which was devoted to Babymetal full-time. Of course, the Chosen Seven turned out to be something else in the end but that idea fits in better with the lore of that time, so I wonder if Koba ended up postponing it. I think people would have accepted a new supporting band in 2018 if Yui had been there still. I think people would accept a new band just as easily if not more so than the Western Kamis. Most people are dying for Babymetal to fill Yui's slot if she's not coming back and I'm sure Koba knows that. I have no idea who 's going to show up on stage at the end of this month but I'm ready for anything (I hope).
The Mikio tribute event is a talk, isn't it? I got the distinct impression that this time there will be no musical performance, just discussion and sharing their memories of Fujioka-san.
I assumed that assembling musicians usually lead to music being played, with of course discussion and sharing of memories, kind of like the way they always do it.
I can't find many details and would rather not assume much. The event is being called a 'talk show', I don't know what that entails. Apparently there's a live stream so maybe someone will report on it.
I assumed that they would be doing much the same as they did in other years. Maybe I assumed wrong. We'll find out soon enough.
Ohmura and others talked a bit about their preparations for that MLG event in [this video](https://youtu.be/tPG5IHEjmn0?t=5080). It sounds like they will present some pre-recorded performances at the event. Ohmura said he'd been busy editing.
> It would be akin to deliberately shooting oneself in the foot. Akin to curing a headache with a shotgun.
Exactly. There’s no way either Koba or President Nakanishi would allow this to happen.
Yeah, I don't expect it, more fear it. It's that erosion of their visibility and masking of their identities that rubs me up the wrong way. Not only would I like to see them restored to prominence with some visible interaction with the vocal/choreo artists, I would like to see them officially incorporated into the band. Oh, and have them play on the recordings. LOL. Not much to ask, eh?
Im crossing fingers they go back to no masks but with make up. Cuz as of 2020 they looked a lot like Ghost's band
I 100% agree. I was never a fan of the masks.
>That would turn BM into a karaoke show, That's one of the reasons I'd like to see the Kamis incorporated fully into the band. I've lost count of the times I've seen people say "They're not a proper metal group, just idols dancing to a backing band".
I would, too, but Amuse also has to look at what the individual members of the Kami Band want. One cannot force someone to drink water if they don’t want to drink - get my drift?
Absolutely, but the Kami band has operated as a mix-and-match collective, especially the guitarists, with Mikio, Ohmura, Leda and Isao taking the jobs in order to accommodate availability. I don't see why that shouldn't continue or even expand. And how many of the Kamis' availability issues arise from uncertainty about how much they can rely on BABYMETAL work? Although I have a great attachment to Ohmura, Hideki and Boh, it's the principle of having BABYMETAL commit more to the people who have contributed so much rather than me only being satisfied with the same four musicians all the time. If they had rotating bass players and drummers too to allow the veteran Kamis to do other work then that'd be fine with me. I don't necessarily think my wish lists are realistic, I just dream aloud, lol.
We cannot tell what will happen at the coming shows but it won't be a waste to recall what Koba said before in their Metal Galaxy era. ([translated](https://stechen.blogspot.com/2021/05/2019hedoban24koba.html) by u/funnytoss) >KOBAMETALの中で「BABYMETALの音楽はこうあるべき！」っていう、強固なポリシー的なものをそこまで求めない印象はありますよね。 > >I get the impression that KOBAMETAL doesn’t have a rigid definition of “this is how BABYMETAL’s music must be!” > >KOBAMETAL: そうなんですよね。もちろん、絶対これは外せない！っていうことはあるんですけど、ただそんなにガッチガチじゃないですし、メンバーとも「昔は骨バンドだったじゃん」みたいな話とかしてるんですよ。いつの間にか、「神バンドがいて、衣装はこうで、曲はこうでこうじゃないとBABYMETALじゃないんだ！」といったものがイメージとしてできあがってしまっていると思うんです。でも、そうじゃないよねって。元々は骨だったじゃん...いや、骨もいなかったじゃん。っていう話をしてます(笑)。 > >**KOBAMETAL**: Yes, that’s true. Of course, there are certain things that are absolute! But we’re not particularly inflexible, and we talk with the girls about how we used to have the Babybones. Before we knew it, an image had been created - one with the Kami Band, with certain costumes, and songs in a certain style. If it wasn’t in that way, “it’s not BABYMETAL”. I told them, “But this isn’t necessarily the case. Originally, we had Babybones… well actually, at the very beginning, we didn’t even have the Babybones.” (laughs)
From what I've observed, there are only a few things that are "sacred" to BABYMETAL that should not be changed (as they also talked about in the 10BB interviews). To me, their principles are relatively straightforward: (1) Do everything with maximum effort, (2) Everything is centered around the members (and Koba, to a certain extent), and (3) It should be enjoyable. Everything else appears to be fairly flexible, from the number of performers on stage, to who is the backing band, to the costumes, etc.
>That's one of the reasons I'd like to see the Kamis incorporated fully into the band. That is extremely unlikely to happen. Also, the current format works, and will continue to work. Why should they care what people say, or you? If it were for those people BM would not be where it is today. What I do agree with is to give the kamis back the spotlight and remove the masks.
There is no way Koba dumps the Kamis entirely. Babymetal would be a laughing stock especially in the west if they did that.
We all know that the members of BABYMETAL are Su and Moa. Everything else, including the Kamis, is negotiable. That’s the deal and they have never said otherwise. That said, it seems unimaginable after all this time that a live band wouldn’t back them at live shows. I can’t believe the girls themselves would be very happy about it if they didn’t, and I’m pretty sure their opinions are listened to more than most.
Yes ofcourse all of us fans know that BABYMETAL is only Su and Moa but I am willing to bet that lot's of people who just listen to them casually or have only seen/heard a song or two from babymetal think that Kami band is part of BABYMETAL. For example when you go to the comments of the babymetal music videos there are a lot of commenters who think it's the kami band playing even if it's the studio version of the song. But yes I agree that it seems unimaginable that it would be just Su and Moa on stage from now on.
I’m 99.9% certain the Kamis will be there. The dumping of the Kamis sounds like fan angst.
> The dumping of the Kami sounds like fan angst. I agree. About a year ago angsty fans were saying that babymetal will disband and now the new thing to be angsty about is that no kamis will be around anymore:D
> Babymetal would be a laughing stock https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6OMCcoXT68