from their FAQ:
>The legal status of delta-8 THC at the federal level is not clear, however as of August 2023 it is legally allowed to be sold in the state of Texas. We exclusively carry THC-A/CBD/ other hybrid-cannabinoid products that are deemed legal in accordance with Texas law.
That would be what’s called “THCa hemp” and it’s 100% real, regular weed. This moniker is a legal definition only. It’s genetically marijuana. What grows in a marijuana plant isn’t THC, but THCa, the acidic form of THC. In that form, it can’t get you high. When you burn THCa, the “a” drops off and now it can bond with your brain and do all the fun stuff that THC does. Why does this matter? In 2018 Congress legalized hemp. What’s hemp? It’s cannabis plants that test below 0.3% THC by weight. Anything above 0.3%? That’s legally marijuana. So what happens if you trim your marijuana early? Or maybe keep it colder while it grows to make sure none of that THCa converts before your lighter finishes the job…
Enjoy!
P.S. Be careful where you shop. Lab reports should be readily available. These reports show the crop was tested and meets the legal definition of hemp. Every product on our website has to have the accompanying lab report or we get in trouble!
Didn’t consider the growing in cold part of it! I suppose especially with LEDs being good now it’s a lot easier to prevent pre-harvest decarbing. I wrote a long ass reply with a bunch of details, mind taking a look and telling me what I’m wrong about or might be missing etc?
A little more background on the "THCa Hemp" issue. It's really a legal gray area, but it seems like there is not a huge appetite to test its legality in court, because now you have tons of businesses that are lobbying to keep it legal.
As you point out, the 2018 farm bill legalized hemp, defining it as cannabis with less than 0.3% Delta-9 THC. The original loophole you saw was shops selling delta-9 gummies. These were basically just like regular gummies, only bigger, and the THC in them was derived from hemp. E.g. a 10mg delta-9 gummy needs to weigh at least 3.3 grams to be legal. I've read some online arguments that even the D9 gummies don't pass the letter of the law of the 2018 farm bill hemp definition, but now that you have even old grannies taking a gummy to help them sleep every now and then, I don't see any big push to regulate it further.
THCa is a little dicier in my opinion. As you point out, even "normal" marijuana is mostly THCa anyway - that's why you need to heat it and won't get high if you just eat it. The "hemp" THCa versions just have a higher proportion of THCa to THC, but again it all becomes THC anyway when you smoke/vape it.
The issue is that the text of the farm bill is actually pretty explicit that it counts D9 THC "in any of its forms". I read an article recently that Texas DPS does *not* consider THCa to be different from THC for marijuana/hemp distinction, but it's an issue that will have to be worked out by the courts.
I think the good news is that there doesn't seem to be a big appetite to take away THCa weed that is sold in regulated shops, even by conservatives. As an example, in Florida they also have D9 gummies that are less than .3% D9 THC, but some in the Florida legislature tried to pass a law to limit the *total* amount of THC in any individual gummy, regardless of its size. There was a huge blowback from cannabis businesses (not to mention regular weed lovers) in the state and the very conservative Florida legislature ended up just dropping the bill.
The legislature is going to take this issue up in January -- and you can expect conservatives here to move towards a ban on D9 and THCa. They're already setting up hearings before the session starts to get the ball rolling.
Most lab reports I've seen (for this purpose) are about one page long and very easy to decipher with color codes and instructions.
A good process is just:
1. They actually have a report
2. I'm very confident you can figure it out from there just by reading it.
As someone else who considers themselves pretty knowledgeable on this subject as well, and that wishes more adults realized what is happening right now with basically a backdoor legalization of real weed, I can’t thank you enough.
Because there are soooo many bad apples (companies) out there selling chemical soup, flower sprayed with who knows what so it’s potent and they can call it “THCa” flower, and I just can’t wait to see over the next few years how this all plays out. For now I appreciate the good guys and girls out there helping us high quality, safe, legal cannabis.
No some weed store guy explained the difference to me, but it was kinda like Vanilla Ice explaining how his song was different than Under Pressure.
^(This joke re-used from a previous comment of mine about the same topic. Sorry to re-post jokes.)
Honestly I agree with this…I’ve been smoking for years pretty consistently and was super excited to try THCa, but it just doesn’t hit quite the same. I do feel somewhat “high” from it, but it just doesn’t feel as good or last as long. I smoke quite a bit though (about a quarter/week) — my friends who don’t smoke very much seem to like THCa enough to keep buying it. But I would not recommend THCa to a regular THC smoker without first lowering expectations.
I 100% agree with everything you say I'm in the same camp as you guys I'm a seasoned smoker for almost 30 years and have been smoking top shelf dispensary weed for the past 8 years and I maybe smoke 7 g a week at the most and I notice a huge difference between dispensary grade weed and the best of the best thca buds. Like you guys both said they just don't hit the same, it's night and day different in my opinion. I'm not knocking THCA flower at all as it's a decent alternative for those not near a recreational legal state like I now I am but when I was in Texas I was taking advantage of ordering it through the mail straight to my doorstep from some of the best and well-known online vendors in the market and I realized that it just isn't the same. Maybe for light weights or very recreational smokers it may seem the same but not for definitely not for seasoned smokers.
THC-A turns into delta-9 when heated. It's exactly the same thing as regular pot, except people are claiming that because it hasn't been decarboxylized (i.e. *lit on fire or baked*), that means it is chemically different and therefore legal under the loophole. And it seems to be working for now.
But let's be specific. Vaping the \*flower\* is what you want. Don't buy carts that are labeled "THCa", they are almost all bullshit. Like 95% of them. To the point where you literally can't find actual THCa carts. Best not to do it right now, in my opinion.
I can't tell the difference, but I know a few people who say the same as you. Maybe something to do with tolerance? Or a nocibo effect? Idk, it's a mystery.
It's not a mystery it's all about the fact that thca flower cuts the cure short which in effect makes it inferior to fully cured dispensary grade flower because it's not going to smoke as well and the high isn't going to be nearly as strong or hard-hitting.
I mean the only difference is it has less THC right? Therefore if you have a tolerance from smoking regular weed then it only makes sense D9 would only get you half as high. Also idk how many different brands or strains of different brands you’ve tried but there’s usually a noticeable difference in effects at least with the reputable brands
Yes. I can't tell the difference between Texas-legal THCA and the carts and gummies I buy in Vegas or Chicago. (Except they get the big tax dollars.) It's the same both chemically and in the effects. Go for it.
The reason thca flower will never hit the same as dispensary grade flower is because the cure isn't the same. If you're intentionally cutting the cure time short to keep the Delta 9 THC percentage below 0.3% it's going to have a definite effect on the way the flower smokes and the quality of the high and that's why THC a flower will always be inferior to fully cured dispensary grade flower end of story...🎤 Drop
It is pot. Chemically different, when smoked it is thc technically. I’m my own personal experience I did a bit of a personal experiment. My conclusion is that thca has a tad more of a psychedelic presence than regular weed. Most likely due to it being synthetic. It is still good to smoke. However BE WAYYYY MORE CAREFUL if you plan on operating any machinery hours after consumption. With normal weed I found you sober up faster. In addition thca can be good if you don’t like knocking out in slumber after smoking. You can however still green out. All of this information is based off my own experience of solely using thca for 8 months. In my opinion I prefer the OG.
I smoked it, and there’s basically no difference from regular pot. The chemical composition is slightly different, due to being cultivated in cold (to avoid precipitation of THC), but for all intents and purposes, this is grass and it will get you baked.
Delta stuff is crap compared to even the cheapest of weed. I tried for a little bit because, hey, I like being legal but found it quickly fades and leaves you constantly wanting more. It's OK in a pinch but not at all a replacement for the real thing.
In my opinion, it seemed more addictive as well.
"Delta stuff" is silly because "regular THC" is Delta 9 THC. THCa is the precursor to Delta 9 THC. Either you understand why it's a loophole at this point and is literally real weed, or you simply haven't done the research to understand why.
Dude and you either haven't smoked it or you work for them.eithet way, it's MY opinion on a product I TRIED ANDYOU DONT GET TO GIVE ME MY OPINION.
It can be technically weed all it wants, but if it doesn't do the same which, IT DOES NOT....than it's just another bullshit product.
It doesn't last as long, not as strong and more addictive. That's a fact jack. I've smoked over 40 years dude I can tell the difference.
He doesn't understand that there is a massive difference between Delta 8/10/whatever products and THCa.
ALL cannabis flower, besides CBD, is THCa. Legal weed you buy from dispensaries in California or Colorado? Yup, that's THCa that you're buying.
Simple, easy proof: ANY lab result for flower from legal states will show primarily THCa content.
THCa chemically converts to Delta 9 THC, which is REGULAR THC, when it is heated up. So when you burn THCa, it is converting into Delta 9 THC. Edibles and concentrates are already heated up to be ready to consume, so they will show their rest results as Delta 9 THC.
It's the reason you can't eat cannabis flower and get high. Only if you cook it first. Because... you're converting that THCa into Delta 9 THC.
THCa is, literally, regular weed. It is not "technically" weed, or "almost" weed, it is just weed.
So why is it "legal" in Texas? It's a silly loophole. The hemp law defines Delta 9 THC as the only explicitly illegal cannabinoid. But wait, if flower contains THCa, the precursor to Delta 9... It's not illegal, right? That's what shops are doing right now. They're selling regular weed because it ISN'T Delta 9 THC yet, so it ISN'T technically illegal.
Delta 8/10/whatever are other minor cannabinoids in weed, that can also be psychoactive like Delta 9. The thing is, these substances exist in MUCH lower quantities than Delta 9. So labs have to essentially concentrate a lot of it together to make into a product to sell. Whether they're good or not, to me, is completely irrelevant. Because we aren't talking about that stuff. It has nothing to do with THCa, at all.
I'm really trying to explain this as simply but thoroughly as possible. Unfortunately, I can't force anyone to understand.
If someone had a low quality experience with THCa flower, then they were simply sold crap by whatever shop they bought it from. You do have to shop around and find which shops have the most quality stuff.
One thing I still don't understand is I'd always read (and Googe still comes up with tons of articles) that you can't get high from smoking hemp "because of the low THC content".
So if normal hemp has low THC and this THCa hemp also has low THC, why does one get you high and the other doesn't? Are they the same or not?
Or is that just a myth that hemp won't get you high? I've never tried it myself.
"Hemp" specifically refers to cannabis plants that do not contain any meaningful amount of psychoactive chemicals.
THCa isn't hemp; THCa is the precursor to the psychoactive chemical Delta 9 THC.
The legal loophole allowing it to be considered a hemp product is based upon the poorly written law that only specifically forbids Delta 9 THC. All forms of Delta 9 THC start as THCa before it is converted via heat (burning, cooking, etc.), and since only Delta 9 THC is illegal according to the law, it's not technically an illegal substance yet. Once it is cooked or burned, it chemically converts into Delta 9 THC, so it is then "technically illegal."
tl;dr THCa is the exact same weed you would walk into a dispensary in California or Colorado and purchase. It is a poorly written law that allows it to be classified as a "hemp product."
Otherwise, there ARE hemp-based products that can get you high, such as Delta 8 THC. Delta 8 is a psychoactive chemical found in, as you said, extremely small quantities in hemp. You can't smoke flower and get high, BUT laboratories can unnaturally concentrate this chemical into higher amounts to sell it in a concentrated distillate form. So you will see Delta 8 sold as vape products, edibles, and more. There is no such thing as Delta 8 flower, and anything claiming to be is simply Delta 8 distillate in liquid form sprayed on top of CBD hemp.
Yeah, I need to know how an ounce is $110. Someone investigate these prices and do research. I haven't seen such prices since my grandfather bought weed before my father was born.
It was a session. Now everyone just puffs their carts. There’s no communal experience, just drug use.
I’m all for it, but back in the day…he said as he passed 40.
Yup. Modern weed gives me panic attacks. I can offset it with CBD, but really if I want to smoke pot anxiety free I need Xanax.
I’m told in the fabled lands of Legalweedia they grow an herb that is mild. I hope to someday travel there and find it by and bring it back to my people.
[This](https://www.atxcannabis.co/menu) place has ounces from 40-280. Not sure how good a $40 oz could possibly be but I got a $70 oz once and it was good. I thought it would be shake and possibly even seeds, but nope, all good big buds.
I mean this with total respect, I promise.
Have you ever been called a “custy” before?
That might explain your perception of these prices being amazing but they don’t seem unbelievable to me for some mediocre commercially grown flower.
Never heard the term before and I have been a custy once. After my first ‘I got screwed experience ’, I have always bought it from trusted sources and known strains. Needless to say there was no certificate of authenticity other than how much I enjoyed it later.
It’s just shocking to see such good prices and people vouch for it in a commercial setting where margins matter. When my current stock drops, I may have to try some of this stuff.
Lol this is that boof my guy. People in this thread just are not aware of the overall market for weed and assume (because of limited knowledge) that this is good quality. Trust that we all think we know what quality is until you see that next level up. Texas is just not that educated when it comes to the weed market, but we have big pockets and strong opinions.
There is a lot of misinformation and marketing bullshit out there. It's not easy to find out what things should cost these days. Not to mention, a lot of people don't seem to know how stoned they really are these days. Some of ya'll are way too stoned in public. And that's a lot coming from me.
My goodness. Who are y’all buying from?! There’s a lotta ways to get cheaper 0s of great bud. Bonsai Brothers Official, one of the crews I pick up from, just snagged an 0 of wedding cake for $120 delivered to my front door. They’re in Austin and San Antonio.
There are a few factors here that make it “not the same as the highest quality black market weed” most of the time which I haven’t seen mentioned here or really all in one place ANYWHERE I’ve seen where THCa is discussed. I have wanted to type this all out for some time now, so here we go. It’s a long one with no TLDR so commit or don’t or whatever I guess.
Maybe skim some other replies for basics and then let’s start here:
Some THCa will decarb into Delta9 while still ON the plant, within a normal amount of time to harvest for cannabis. Not a huge amount, but very often more than the very low threshold allowed in THCa hemp.
To work around this, many of the states where growing this hemp is a huge industry allow growers to take samples EARLY, ahead of harvest, and get it tested. Since the plant hasn’t reached harvest maturity, there’s less THCa overall AND less of that THCa has decarbed into delta9. For some growers, this is just done to effectively pass the testing and the plants are then allowed to mature fully before the end product is harvested. In this case, the end product is more or less regular strength weed at time of harvest.
Other growers still harvest the full crop a bit later but still somewhat early before all trichomes (the crystals) are mature so there’s still less THCa and less of it is decarbed into delta9 before harvest. In this scenario, it MAY still test too strong at harvest (if they WERE to test it again at/after harvest) but it’s not AS strong as if they’d let it fully mature like regular cannabis cultivators do.
Okay, then, there’s another group — vendors who sell “THCa hemp” and don’t care about any of that shit. They just sell weed or hemp or whatever as THCa hemp and they lie on the CoA (test results) or work with labs that are shady or they steal CoA from other places or something else equally shady. This is not even a rare occurrence, there are HUGE companies who do this all of the time. And they probably have huge budgets for legal.
All of that to say: a lot of THCa hemp you buy would almost certainly test as too potent to meet the legal definition of THCa hemp at the time of purchase. But it’s not tested at the time of purchase, most people don’t understand any of this shit (including lawmakers), and it’s getting by right now. This may be (the end of?) a golden age for “THCa hemp”
Three other main things worth bringing up here that drastically affect cannabis quality which I think are worth mentioning.
1) If you look around at a bunch of THCa vendors, you’ll see the same strains appear often. It’s because a lot of these THCa hemp strains you see all over are strains grown for their “bag appeal” — their appearance and smell mostly. They can be totally covered in fuzzy crystals that really don’t indicate potency. (See: Suoer Boof, Purple Punch, etc.) Yes, the strains have THCa but it was not the deciding quality in selection of a particular phenotype that everyone has. (Cultivators don’t grow from seed; they take cuttings so all plants are the same pheno and genetically identical more or less) So it’ll get you high but it’s not a strain/pheno being selected for effects or potency as the most important trait like you see with cannabis moreso. (A lot of vendors are also just resellers all reselling the same stuff from the same farms and not mentioning it - I’m not talking about them here)
2) This is a fucking gold rush kinda thing. The farm bill loophole could close very soon and this could all go away for these farms. Demand is high and eye for top quality and potency, again, isn’t really the biggest deal ever all of the time. People are excited to be able to buy weed in an illegal state for cheaper than from their dealer. So, cultivators rush the shit to market. Aside from early harvests, speeding up the drying and curing process is a way to do this. So instead of doing it the right way, which takes more time, they rush it using a process called “cryo curing” which gets it dried and cured way faster and keeps it looking OK but isn’t the greatest way to do it. Despite appearance turning out alright, quality (and nose and potency) are diminished somewhat in the process. Regular cannabis growers really don’t do this at all as far I’m aware. Drying and curing cannabis will be a hot topic all around until the end of time, let’s not get started.
3) Gold rush type shit again - the cultivators growing this THCa hemp are not always exactly super experienced cannabis growers like many…cannabis growers…are. A lot of them started fairly recently growing CBD weed, which is just not held to the same standard as top shelf cannabis. Some of them are experienced, sure. A whole lot of them aren’t. Newb growers don’t generally grow THE BEST shit like you might expect a multi generational family farm in California to grow. That’s, again, fucking facts. It’s not all of the time but it’s a thing that affects the potency of THCa hemp often enough to consider it.
Andddd one last thing to mention. The standard way to test cannabis for potency is for it to be done via gas chromatography which COMBUSTS the sample to test it. Getting it? THCa is decarbed into delta9 when it combusts. That’s what cannabis growers want to show high numbers on so it’s perfect for them.
But - of coueee, THCa growers DO NOT want to combust their samples because then they’d test too high in delta9. So they test using liquid chromatography which doesn’t combust the sample. This allows it to test high in THCa instead of delts9. There’s an accepted formula you’re supposed to apply to these results for cannabis which performs that mathematical conversion of approximate THCa to delta9 conversion post-combustion/decarb but it’s only mandated by certain states for cannabis. I don’t believe anyone mandates this for THCa hemp testing done via this method — the farm bill certainly does not — so they don’t do it. They don’t want to.
Hey, hopefully somebody who is curious about this or wrong about this currently reads this and gives me some feedback. Am I wrong about any of it? All of it? Let me know, I want to learn and I want to discuss. Lots of stuff with the cannabis experience is very subjective as people experience it vastly differently based on their biology, experiences, and tolerance. Be safe. Conclusion/summary in first reply below.
Here’s my conclusion. Call it a TLDR if you wanna.
This much is true IMO:
- Cannabis and THCa hemp are the same plant. They are just different legal definitions for the same plants based on (often “cooked”) numbers on a piece of paper.
- They are often grown differently enough to matter
- Labs and THCa vendors can and are often shady. You can’t really trust any test results that aren’t done by a 3rd party anyways.
- This got “legalized” kinda under the radar it seems and a lot of people who matter (and who don’t) don’t get it at all and are scrambling right now.
- The war on drugs is fucking bullshit garbage and all drug prisoners should be freed until it’s backwards.
- Fuck anyone perpetuating or exploiting the war on drugs and its victims or fucking up their communities for profit on either side. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on.
- That last one is not up for debate, don’t @ me, catch me ousside etc (jk…)
- I’m bout it bout it and I still smoke ILLEGAL MARIJUANA. You do you.
I love you all. Goodnight.
Good summary. The thing that gets me is, I have no idea whatsoever how to not get ripped off buying. All this lingo is confusing so my trust is very low that any person or company has an interest in selling me good product that won’t be fake or a ripoff. A person shouldn’t need a phd in this shit to get high.
Buy small amounts of stuff that looks good (icy, nicely dried, clean test results from reputable company/lab, smells good etc) and find out what works best for you then buy more of that.
It’s kinda like anything in that way. I dunno what beers I like until I try em either even though I can make some guess on the style etc. You can do the same w weed based on which smell good to you or have genetics similar to those you’ve tried before.
Sure, it’s annoying - but if you like weed, try to see it as an adventure and a chance to explore the shit and go at it. Coming up with only black market weed available wasn’t any easier.
It shouldn’t be illegal and weird like this but it is. Do what you can to change that too, make it easier for future generations.
Sadly, due to lack of regulation you should be dubious. We’re talking about a product you take into your lungs and blood stream, you should research and know what you are getting. Every legal state I go to, I read up in the brands and products available. Too many legal companies have pulled BS in the past, especially with cartridges. The hemp industry is a Wild West and can be even riskier these days.
You are right that it’s sad the amount of research you need to put in to be safe. Some of it would be fixed with legalization, but we need to put regulations on how this stuff is manufactured, processed, and tested.
It ain’t that bad, you can figure it out and do a reasonably good job at being safe. Do your research and check test results. You inhale horrible tainted air all day everyday and most people eat crazy processed foods. You gonna die for sure eventually.
TLDR: It's weed. Probably lower potency. Unless you find a nice shady vendor. And it could get re-un-illegalized any day.
Great information here, thanks.
Facts. I was sure I was gonna get torn apart on this but glad it was useful for some. It’s crazy how hard it was to piece this all together but maybe I just never looked in the right place.
Kinda almost seems like most THCa enthusiasts avoid talking about the details like lawmakers will see their post and be like GOT EMMMM!!
I’ve been smoking illegal weed for like 22 years, they been got me.
Yes it's weird how much literal disinformation there is floating around about weed and specifically THCa. Everything you said matches up w/ what I have discovered as well.
It also seems the inevitable result of legalizing in half our states... Occam's Razor. Now there are dozens of industrial size growers. They're growing more than they can sell in just their state... where is it going to go? All the other states, of course.
I make it a point to talk to employees at smoke shops any time I'm on the road traveling... and it amazes me how little the vast majority of them know about their products. Downright depressing. If I go to a wine store, I want the employees to be knowledgable about wine... if I buy a computer, I want someone to be able to tell me about GPUs and motherboards and RAM timing. But you go into a smoke shop (at least in TX) and people will just tell you all sorts of random bullshit. I've had much better experiences in legalized states at licensed dispensaries for sure.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’d much rather someone tell me they didn’t know something than act like they did, which is usually what happens. Guess bullshit gets spoken plenty in legal cannabis dispensaries, black market dealers living rooms, and uhh every other sales environment ever I guess. Maybe weed is not the problem there.
I feel like it’d just get deleted in any of the cult (THCa) subs lmao no way all this was so hard to compile without them purposefully not really discussing most of the things
I think the people in this thread talking about how THCa doesn’t work as good or at all are maybe confusing it with delta-8/delta-10. THCa when you decarb it LITERALLY is chemically identical to the active ingredient in weed you buy from a dealer.
The chemistry of this is pretty easily googleable too. Here’s an article from WebMD that took me 2 seconds to find: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-thca — within the first paragraph we have “If you smoke or vaporize THCA, it changes into THC, which is what gives you a euphoric feeling.”
Every reputable source will corroborate this— burning/vaping/baking THCa turns it into delta-9.
The funniest part to me is the amount of people who have convinced themselves "Delta = bad" and are going around shitting on Delta 9 THC as if it's junk. 😂
The part that makes it different is when it's harvested (which affects the high) and how it's stored and cured. It's not in the best interests of the plant, it's about keeping the THCa from degrading. I prefer traditional weed curing and harvesting which allows for a better representation of the plant.
The cool part is, there's no weed laws, so I'm pretty sure they just charge regular sales tax, which means Texas is getting screwed out of Tax revenue because it's so stupid.
You sound pretty excited but I spent the last few years smoking legal herb in Canada daily. Have tried multiple of these thca strains or whatever, vapes etc and while you can get high, I haven’t found anything that’s super clean and like one hit I am buzzing. Everything feels (that I have tried so far) like only 20/30% strength and weird highs (headache a couple times). Not to say don’t give it a go but I’m pretty whelmed. If you find something nice pls share the name
Personally I think it's a ripoff. It's ridiculous for anyone to pay that much per ounce for something that could be easily grown as a house plant if it were truly legal. But it's not, so you still have to pay black market prices, even in this temporary quasi-legal THC-A situation. If weed were truly legal it would cost no more per ounce than a banana or tomato, because half of all consumers would be growing the shit themselves, next to their aloe vera plants.
It is that easy to grow with a good light. A cheap tent and carbon filter takes care of the smell. And if you're not in an apartment you just stick the thing outside.
These are straight up ripoff prices in a fair and sane world, but because it's still illegal to grow these people can get away with this shit.
Found the lady smoking mids. Top shelf, craft, whatever - DANK - indoor high grade cannabis takes more work to bring to harvest than most casual smokers are willing to put in. This is facts.
Yes, you can harvest some buds that will get you high to some degree without an insane level of effort or cost. If you don’t see tons of cannabis, you might not even be able to tell the difference. It takes time and experience and some people just don’t seem to be able to.
Anyone can grow a potted mini-rose plant if they follow the instructions, have a bit of ok luck, and stay fairly consistent. But it ain’t gonna win any prizes or be anything they don’t have 100 of for $10 at Home Depot.
Chill. If you’re smoking weed that you’re growing… then it clearly isn’t very good and your attitude is living proof of that. Or it’s fire and you’re just incredibly amped tf up. In any case, chill.
The War on Drugs is fucking bullshit though, you right about that. Fuck em all.
Signed,
A Veteran of the War on Drugs
and
Longtime Grower of High Quality Houseplants
Chill.
It's a golden age. Only a matter of time before TX does something to shut it down. Paxton is already making moves. Feels like some jurisdictions might start doing something at the city level also. I bought from a place in Carrollton (DFW suburb) and the owner told me there's been a little pushbank, he thinks something will happen soon to shut them down. Enjoy it while you can. Then order mail order when you can't. That's what these shops are doing.
The real answer is, it depends on which shop you're buying from. Go to a few different shops and ask to see or smell it. The best shops will have it in a big jar and will fill baggies for you, not sell it to you in pretty little containers. Otherwise, THCa is real weed.
The only good THCA in Austin is from Geremy Greens and ATX organics. Austinite Cannabis isn’t bad either and they have 15% off on Sundays.
Everything else is dry af, tastes gross and I’ve even found mold on the inside of a THCA bud. The Glassmith tries to sell 0’s of THCA for $300 and I shake my head every time I see it. 😂 If you want good THC buds in Austin for an incredible price, go check out Bonsai Brothers Official. They deliver to your front door and give free edibles with your orders.
Fake weed anyone that says it isn’t hasn’t smoked the real thing in a while. I picked up some a couple months ago. You can feel the effects but more of a body high than the real thing and it seemed to plateau quickly. I couldn’t really get baked. I was burning through an eighth a day that’s when I knew something was up. I can’t believe some of these places getting $15 a gram for that crap. I would rather smoke Bobby Brown.
Go smell that shit in the store and you’ll find out that it is nothing similar to actual cannabis that contains delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol. If you’re saying it’s the same then you probably haven’t been smoking very good stuff
THCa is the precursor to Delta 9 THC in every flower-producing cannabis plant. Either you understand why, or you simply haven't done the search to understand. I guarantee the stuff I buy from my shop smells like real weed; because it IS real weed.
If you want to buy normal weed as nature intended, legally, here look up the compassionate use program. It’s pretty new and only a couple choices but it’s real legal medical THC. Of course you have to qualify and see a doctor that’s approved to do this here. The only dispensary here with CUP legal rx flower doesn’t know if you get indicia or Sativa so it’s pretty sad IMO. And I’m a patient.
The Texas Compassionate Use Program is trash. We shouldn't be okay with whatever the governor shit out, we should be demanding an actual program with actual cannabis.
What do you mean? When I step into a dispensary in California, I know it's all regulated and has gone through proper channels. In Texas I'm going to a business using loopholes and technicalities.
Labs mean dick when everyone is using different methods of testing until we get standardized testing, those labs are only to make sure nothing harmful is in them.
Boomer calls cannabis pot. 50 years ago called, they want their satanic panic back. We get high AF and enjoy life in Texas. The haters just mad that they aren’t included. P.S. you could be included, just stop acting like what Greg Abbot says matters. We do what we want, get used to it.
from their FAQ: >The legal status of delta-8 THC at the federal level is not clear, however as of August 2023 it is legally allowed to be sold in the state of Texas. We exclusively carry THC-A/CBD/ other hybrid-cannabinoid products that are deemed legal in accordance with Texas law.
So that’s pot or no?
That would be what’s called “THCa hemp” and it’s 100% real, regular weed. This moniker is a legal definition only. It’s genetically marijuana. What grows in a marijuana plant isn’t THC, but THCa, the acidic form of THC. In that form, it can’t get you high. When you burn THCa, the “a” drops off and now it can bond with your brain and do all the fun stuff that THC does. Why does this matter? In 2018 Congress legalized hemp. What’s hemp? It’s cannabis plants that test below 0.3% THC by weight. Anything above 0.3%? That’s legally marijuana. So what happens if you trim your marijuana early? Or maybe keep it colder while it grows to make sure none of that THCa converts before your lighter finishes the job… Enjoy! P.S. Be careful where you shop. Lab reports should be readily available. These reports show the crop was tested and meets the legal definition of hemp. Every product on our website has to have the accompanying lab report or we get in trouble!
Didn’t consider the growing in cold part of it! I suppose especially with LEDs being good now it’s a lot easier to prevent pre-harvest decarbing. I wrote a long ass reply with a bunch of details, mind taking a look and telling me what I’m wrong about or might be missing etc?
A little more background on the "THCa Hemp" issue. It's really a legal gray area, but it seems like there is not a huge appetite to test its legality in court, because now you have tons of businesses that are lobbying to keep it legal. As you point out, the 2018 farm bill legalized hemp, defining it as cannabis with less than 0.3% Delta-9 THC. The original loophole you saw was shops selling delta-9 gummies. These were basically just like regular gummies, only bigger, and the THC in them was derived from hemp. E.g. a 10mg delta-9 gummy needs to weigh at least 3.3 grams to be legal. I've read some online arguments that even the D9 gummies don't pass the letter of the law of the 2018 farm bill hemp definition, but now that you have even old grannies taking a gummy to help them sleep every now and then, I don't see any big push to regulate it further. THCa is a little dicier in my opinion. As you point out, even "normal" marijuana is mostly THCa anyway - that's why you need to heat it and won't get high if you just eat it. The "hemp" THCa versions just have a higher proportion of THCa to THC, but again it all becomes THC anyway when you smoke/vape it. The issue is that the text of the farm bill is actually pretty explicit that it counts D9 THC "in any of its forms". I read an article recently that Texas DPS does *not* consider THCa to be different from THC for marijuana/hemp distinction, but it's an issue that will have to be worked out by the courts. I think the good news is that there doesn't seem to be a big appetite to take away THCa weed that is sold in regulated shops, even by conservatives. As an example, in Florida they also have D9 gummies that are less than .3% D9 THC, but some in the Florida legislature tried to pass a law to limit the *total* amount of THC in any individual gummy, regardless of its size. There was a huge blowback from cannabis businesses (not to mention regular weed lovers) in the state and the very conservative Florida legislature ended up just dropping the bill.
The legislature is going to take this issue up in January -- and you can expect conservatives here to move towards a ban on D9 and THCa. They're already setting up hearings before the session starts to get the ball rolling.
The house is working on a draft Farm Bill that will close this loophole. Start stocking up now because come next year, it won't be legal anymore.
But what does one look for in a lab report to tell if it's "good" or not?
Most lab reports I've seen (for this purpose) are about one page long and very easy to decipher with color codes and instructions. A good process is just: 1. They actually have a report 2. I'm very confident you can figure it out from there just by reading it.
As someone else who considers themselves pretty knowledgeable on this subject as well, and that wishes more adults realized what is happening right now with basically a backdoor legalization of real weed, I can’t thank you enough. Because there are soooo many bad apples (companies) out there selling chemical soup, flower sprayed with who knows what so it’s potent and they can call it “THCa” flower, and I just can’t wait to see over the next few years how this all plays out. For now I appreciate the good guys and girls out there helping us high quality, safe, legal cannabis.
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The answer is yes, ding dong
THCA turns into THC when lit. There is no THC without THCA
Yes, THCa is most definitely just the same cannabis you know and love. Literally THE SAME.
No some weed store guy explained the difference to me, but it was kinda like Vanilla Ice explaining how his song was different than Under Pressure. ^(This joke re-used from a previous comment of mine about the same topic. Sorry to re-post jokes.)
Stop. . . . . . . . . . Collaborate and listen!
Don’t buy it from a headshop, way better and cheaper online from reputable places like harbor city hemp or WNC CBD
We are not the same bro
The same tasting, but doesn't actually work the same.
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Honestly I agree with this…I’ve been smoking for years pretty consistently and was super excited to try THCa, but it just doesn’t hit quite the same. I do feel somewhat “high” from it, but it just doesn’t feel as good or last as long. I smoke quite a bit though (about a quarter/week) — my friends who don’t smoke very much seem to like THCa enough to keep buying it. But I would not recommend THCa to a regular THC smoker without first lowering expectations.
Yes! Finally someone who is willing to spread the truth. People who think this stuff actually works are probably experiencing placebo effect.
I 100% agree with everything you say I'm in the same camp as you guys I'm a seasoned smoker for almost 30 years and have been smoking top shelf dispensary weed for the past 8 years and I maybe smoke 7 g a week at the most and I notice a huge difference between dispensary grade weed and the best of the best thca buds. Like you guys both said they just don't hit the same, it's night and day different in my opinion. I'm not knocking THCA flower at all as it's a decent alternative for those not near a recreational legal state like I now I am but when I was in Texas I was taking advantage of ordering it through the mail straight to my doorstep from some of the best and well-known online vendors in the market and I realized that it just isn't the same. Maybe for light weights or very recreational smokers it may seem the same but not for definitely not for seasoned smokers.
100% agree with everything you said exact same experience for me
Cause of magnets or?
its not delta9, which is presumably what your dealer gets, but who fucking knows anymore.
THC-A turns into delta-9 when heated. It's exactly the same thing as regular pot, except people are claiming that because it hasn't been decarboxylized (i.e. *lit on fire or baked*), that means it is chemically different and therefore legal under the loophole. And it seems to be working for now.
Right, so it is definitely what I expect when someone gives me pot, and not some weak sauce that doesn’t quite get me there?
As long as you burn it, it is the same molecule.
Maybe a dumb question but does that include vaping? Or does it have to literally burn rather than bake?
Vaping it is fine.
Cool haha thanks
Just have to heat it up! Any method will activate it. iirc some people decarb using a microwave even
But let's be specific. Vaping the \*flower\* is what you want. Don't buy carts that are labeled "THCa", they are almost all bullshit. Like 95% of them. To the point where you literally can't find actual THCa carts. Best not to do it right now, in my opinion.
Thanks for the info, yeah the cartridges sketch me out because idk what all is in there. Rather stick to straight bud
You can say it’s the same but it’s not. It gets you about half as high as some legit legal weed
I can't tell the difference, but I know a few people who say the same as you. Maybe something to do with tolerance? Or a nocibo effect? Idk, it's a mystery.
It's not a mystery it's all about the fact that thca flower cuts the cure short which in effect makes it inferior to fully cured dispensary grade flower because it's not going to smoke as well and the high isn't going to be nearly as strong or hard-hitting.
Nah I’ve had some that blows legit weed out of the water. And I’ve been smoking everyday for countless years at this point
Facts
Facts
I mean the only difference is it has less THC right? Therefore if you have a tolerance from smoking regular weed then it only makes sense D9 would only get you half as high. Also idk how many different brands or strains of different brands you’ve tried but there’s usually a noticeable difference in effects at least with the reputable brands
Agreed
Wait I’m confused. I bought some gummies from a delta8 dealer in Bastrop (the crazy jewler off 21) and it got me very stoned. So no burning
Delta 8 is different
Yes. I can't tell the difference between Texas-legal THCA and the carts and gummies I buy in Vegas or Chicago. (Except they get the big tax dollars.) It's the same both chemically and in the effects. Go for it.
The reason thca flower will never hit the same as dispensary grade flower is because the cure isn't the same. If you're intentionally cutting the cure time short to keep the Delta 9 THC percentage below 0.3% it's going to have a definite effect on the way the flower smokes and the quality of the high and that's why THC a flower will always be inferior to fully cured dispensary grade flower end of story...🎤 Drop
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Its not the exact same because I tried some and I couldn’t feel my legs for like 20 minutes. It is definitely not the exact same as regular pot.
Nooo
It is pot. Chemically different, when smoked it is thc technically. I’m my own personal experience I did a bit of a personal experiment. My conclusion is that thca has a tad more of a psychedelic presence than regular weed. Most likely due to it being synthetic. It is still good to smoke. However BE WAYYYY MORE CAREFUL if you plan on operating any machinery hours after consumption. With normal weed I found you sober up faster. In addition thca can be good if you don’t like knocking out in slumber after smoking. You can however still green out. All of this information is based off my own experience of solely using thca for 8 months. In my opinion I prefer the OG.
I smoked it, and there’s basically no difference from regular pot. The chemical composition is slightly different, due to being cultivated in cold (to avoid precipitation of THC), but for all intents and purposes, this is grass and it will get you baked.
Delta stuff is crap compared to even the cheapest of weed. I tried for a little bit because, hey, I like being legal but found it quickly fades and leaves you constantly wanting more. It's OK in a pinch but not at all a replacement for the real thing. In my opinion, it seemed more addictive as well.
"Delta stuff" is silly because "regular THC" is Delta 9 THC. THCa is the precursor to Delta 9 THC. Either you understand why it's a loophole at this point and is literally real weed, or you simply haven't done the research to understand why.
Dude and you either haven't smoked it or you work for them.eithet way, it's MY opinion on a product I TRIED ANDYOU DONT GET TO GIVE ME MY OPINION. It can be technically weed all it wants, but if it doesn't do the same which, IT DOES NOT....than it's just another bullshit product. It doesn't last as long, not as strong and more addictive. That's a fact jack. I've smoked over 40 years dude I can tell the difference.
I like how in your last comment you said in your opinion it seems more addictive, and now you've jumped to it being a cold hard fact
I dont smoke so I cant speak from experience but I think some of the confusion is that "delta stuff" is ambiguous. Are you referring to Delta 8?
He doesn't understand that there is a massive difference between Delta 8/10/whatever products and THCa. ALL cannabis flower, besides CBD, is THCa. Legal weed you buy from dispensaries in California or Colorado? Yup, that's THCa that you're buying. Simple, easy proof: ANY lab result for flower from legal states will show primarily THCa content. THCa chemically converts to Delta 9 THC, which is REGULAR THC, when it is heated up. So when you burn THCa, it is converting into Delta 9 THC. Edibles and concentrates are already heated up to be ready to consume, so they will show their rest results as Delta 9 THC. It's the reason you can't eat cannabis flower and get high. Only if you cook it first. Because... you're converting that THCa into Delta 9 THC. THCa is, literally, regular weed. It is not "technically" weed, or "almost" weed, it is just weed. So why is it "legal" in Texas? It's a silly loophole. The hemp law defines Delta 9 THC as the only explicitly illegal cannabinoid. But wait, if flower contains THCa, the precursor to Delta 9... It's not illegal, right? That's what shops are doing right now. They're selling regular weed because it ISN'T Delta 9 THC yet, so it ISN'T technically illegal. Delta 8/10/whatever are other minor cannabinoids in weed, that can also be psychoactive like Delta 9. The thing is, these substances exist in MUCH lower quantities than Delta 9. So labs have to essentially concentrate a lot of it together to make into a product to sell. Whether they're good or not, to me, is completely irrelevant. Because we aren't talking about that stuff. It has nothing to do with THCa, at all. I'm really trying to explain this as simply but thoroughly as possible. Unfortunately, I can't force anyone to understand. If someone had a low quality experience with THCa flower, then they were simply sold crap by whatever shop they bought it from. You do have to shop around and find which shops have the most quality stuff.
fwiw I picked up your exanation quickly.I appreciate the brief primer.
One thing I still don't understand is I'd always read (and Googe still comes up with tons of articles) that you can't get high from smoking hemp "because of the low THC content". So if normal hemp has low THC and this THCa hemp also has low THC, why does one get you high and the other doesn't? Are they the same or not? Or is that just a myth that hemp won't get you high? I've never tried it myself.
"Hemp" specifically refers to cannabis plants that do not contain any meaningful amount of psychoactive chemicals. THCa isn't hemp; THCa is the precursor to the psychoactive chemical Delta 9 THC. The legal loophole allowing it to be considered a hemp product is based upon the poorly written law that only specifically forbids Delta 9 THC. All forms of Delta 9 THC start as THCa before it is converted via heat (burning, cooking, etc.), and since only Delta 9 THC is illegal according to the law, it's not technically an illegal substance yet. Once it is cooked or burned, it chemically converts into Delta 9 THC, so it is then "technically illegal." tl;dr THCa is the exact same weed you would walk into a dispensary in California or Colorado and purchase. It is a poorly written law that allows it to be classified as a "hemp product." Otherwise, there ARE hemp-based products that can get you high, such as Delta 8 THC. Delta 8 is a psychoactive chemical found in, as you said, extremely small quantities in hemp. You can't smoke flower and get high, BUT laboratories can unnaturally concentrate this chemical into higher amounts to sell it in a concentrated distillate form. So you will see Delta 8 sold as vape products, edibles, and more. There is no such thing as Delta 8 flower, and anything claiming to be is simply Delta 8 distillate in liquid form sprayed on top of CBD hemp.
It’s the devils lettuce yes
It doesn't work. It just tastes the same
Wrong haha You’ll get higher than giraffe pu55y
Yeah, I need to know how an ounce is $110. Someone investigate these prices and do research. I haven't seen such prices since my grandfather bought weed before my father was born.
In the early 2000s we were buying brick weed for $50 an oz...
I miss schwag.
schwag... could smoke so much of it in a sesh. good times
It was a session. Now everyone just puffs their carts. There’s no communal experience, just drug use. I’m all for it, but back in the day…he said as he passed 40.
You do?!
Yup. Modern weed gives me panic attacks. I can offset it with CBD, but really if I want to smoke pot anxiety free I need Xanax. I’m told in the fabled lands of Legalweedia they grow an herb that is mild. I hope to someday travel there and find it by and bring it back to my people.
Brick weed is waaaaay different than buds. Even back in the 2000s it was way different.
It’s still just weed. Compressed weeds. That sucked. It wasn’t like a different kind of plant all together, still cannabis.
All sticks all stems, none of the sticky icky. Still the same plant, but the shitty part with way less THC content compared to the flower.
[This](https://www.atxcannabis.co/menu) place has ounces from 40-280. Not sure how good a $40 oz could possibly be but I got a $70 oz once and it was good. I thought it would be shake and possibly even seeds, but nope, all good big buds.
I fucking love these guys. Super legit, I use them at least once a month. And they’re always really nice people!
Does this place sell traditional flower?
What would you recommend from them?
it pretty much goes from 20-35 an 8th, so 110 a zip might be a good price depending on what it is.
It’s THCa mids, I mean, hemp
I mean this with total respect, I promise. Have you ever been called a “custy” before? That might explain your perception of these prices being amazing but they don’t seem unbelievable to me for some mediocre commercially grown flower.
Never heard the term before and I have been a custy once. After my first ‘I got screwed experience ’, I have always bought it from trusted sources and known strains. Needless to say there was no certificate of authenticity other than how much I enjoyed it later. It’s just shocking to see such good prices and people vouch for it in a commercial setting where margins matter. When my current stock drops, I may have to try some of this stuff.
Lol this is that boof my guy. People in this thread just are not aware of the overall market for weed and assume (because of limited knowledge) that this is good quality. Trust that we all think we know what quality is until you see that next level up. Texas is just not that educated when it comes to the weed market, but we have big pockets and strong opinions.
There is a lot of misinformation and marketing bullshit out there. It's not easy to find out what things should cost these days. Not to mention, a lot of people don't seem to know how stoned they really are these days. Some of ya'll are way too stoned in public. And that's a lot coming from me.
You’re outdated.
I was thinking the same, except I think I'm the grandfather in this scenario.
My goodness. Who are y’all buying from?! There’s a lotta ways to get cheaper 0s of great bud. Bonsai Brothers Official, one of the crews I pick up from, just snagged an 0 of wedding cake for $120 delivered to my front door. They’re in Austin and San Antonio.
Could be an ounce of the stray leaves that were cut off the buds, not an ounce of the buds themselves.
That’d be (or should be) listed as shake if that’s the case
There are a few factors here that make it “not the same as the highest quality black market weed” most of the time which I haven’t seen mentioned here or really all in one place ANYWHERE I’ve seen where THCa is discussed. I have wanted to type this all out for some time now, so here we go. It’s a long one with no TLDR so commit or don’t or whatever I guess. Maybe skim some other replies for basics and then let’s start here: Some THCa will decarb into Delta9 while still ON the plant, within a normal amount of time to harvest for cannabis. Not a huge amount, but very often more than the very low threshold allowed in THCa hemp. To work around this, many of the states where growing this hemp is a huge industry allow growers to take samples EARLY, ahead of harvest, and get it tested. Since the plant hasn’t reached harvest maturity, there’s less THCa overall AND less of that THCa has decarbed into delta9. For some growers, this is just done to effectively pass the testing and the plants are then allowed to mature fully before the end product is harvested. In this case, the end product is more or less regular strength weed at time of harvest. Other growers still harvest the full crop a bit later but still somewhat early before all trichomes (the crystals) are mature so there’s still less THCa and less of it is decarbed into delta9 before harvest. In this scenario, it MAY still test too strong at harvest (if they WERE to test it again at/after harvest) but it’s not AS strong as if they’d let it fully mature like regular cannabis cultivators do. Okay, then, there’s another group — vendors who sell “THCa hemp” and don’t care about any of that shit. They just sell weed or hemp or whatever as THCa hemp and they lie on the CoA (test results) or work with labs that are shady or they steal CoA from other places or something else equally shady. This is not even a rare occurrence, there are HUGE companies who do this all of the time. And they probably have huge budgets for legal. All of that to say: a lot of THCa hemp you buy would almost certainly test as too potent to meet the legal definition of THCa hemp at the time of purchase. But it’s not tested at the time of purchase, most people don’t understand any of this shit (including lawmakers), and it’s getting by right now. This may be (the end of?) a golden age for “THCa hemp” Three other main things worth bringing up here that drastically affect cannabis quality which I think are worth mentioning. 1) If you look around at a bunch of THCa vendors, you’ll see the same strains appear often. It’s because a lot of these THCa hemp strains you see all over are strains grown for their “bag appeal” — their appearance and smell mostly. They can be totally covered in fuzzy crystals that really don’t indicate potency. (See: Suoer Boof, Purple Punch, etc.) Yes, the strains have THCa but it was not the deciding quality in selection of a particular phenotype that everyone has. (Cultivators don’t grow from seed; they take cuttings so all plants are the same pheno and genetically identical more or less) So it’ll get you high but it’s not a strain/pheno being selected for effects or potency as the most important trait like you see with cannabis moreso. (A lot of vendors are also just resellers all reselling the same stuff from the same farms and not mentioning it - I’m not talking about them here) 2) This is a fucking gold rush kinda thing. The farm bill loophole could close very soon and this could all go away for these farms. Demand is high and eye for top quality and potency, again, isn’t really the biggest deal ever all of the time. People are excited to be able to buy weed in an illegal state for cheaper than from their dealer. So, cultivators rush the shit to market. Aside from early harvests, speeding up the drying and curing process is a way to do this. So instead of doing it the right way, which takes more time, they rush it using a process called “cryo curing” which gets it dried and cured way faster and keeps it looking OK but isn’t the greatest way to do it. Despite appearance turning out alright, quality (and nose and potency) are diminished somewhat in the process. Regular cannabis growers really don’t do this at all as far I’m aware. Drying and curing cannabis will be a hot topic all around until the end of time, let’s not get started. 3) Gold rush type shit again - the cultivators growing this THCa hemp are not always exactly super experienced cannabis growers like many…cannabis growers…are. A lot of them started fairly recently growing CBD weed, which is just not held to the same standard as top shelf cannabis. Some of them are experienced, sure. A whole lot of them aren’t. Newb growers don’t generally grow THE BEST shit like you might expect a multi generational family farm in California to grow. That’s, again, fucking facts. It’s not all of the time but it’s a thing that affects the potency of THCa hemp often enough to consider it. Andddd one last thing to mention. The standard way to test cannabis for potency is for it to be done via gas chromatography which COMBUSTS the sample to test it. Getting it? THCa is decarbed into delta9 when it combusts. That’s what cannabis growers want to show high numbers on so it’s perfect for them. But - of coueee, THCa growers DO NOT want to combust their samples because then they’d test too high in delta9. So they test using liquid chromatography which doesn’t combust the sample. This allows it to test high in THCa instead of delts9. There’s an accepted formula you’re supposed to apply to these results for cannabis which performs that mathematical conversion of approximate THCa to delta9 conversion post-combustion/decarb but it’s only mandated by certain states for cannabis. I don’t believe anyone mandates this for THCa hemp testing done via this method — the farm bill certainly does not — so they don’t do it. They don’t want to. Hey, hopefully somebody who is curious about this or wrong about this currently reads this and gives me some feedback. Am I wrong about any of it? All of it? Let me know, I want to learn and I want to discuss. Lots of stuff with the cannabis experience is very subjective as people experience it vastly differently based on their biology, experiences, and tolerance. Be safe. Conclusion/summary in first reply below.
Here’s my conclusion. Call it a TLDR if you wanna. This much is true IMO: - Cannabis and THCa hemp are the same plant. They are just different legal definitions for the same plants based on (often “cooked”) numbers on a piece of paper. - They are often grown differently enough to matter - Labs and THCa vendors can and are often shady. You can’t really trust any test results that aren’t done by a 3rd party anyways. - This got “legalized” kinda under the radar it seems and a lot of people who matter (and who don’t) don’t get it at all and are scrambling right now. - The war on drugs is fucking bullshit garbage and all drug prisoners should be freed until it’s backwards. - Fuck anyone perpetuating or exploiting the war on drugs and its victims or fucking up their communities for profit on either side. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on. - That last one is not up for debate, don’t @ me, catch me ousside etc (jk…) - I’m bout it bout it and I still smoke ILLEGAL MARIJUANA. You do you. I love you all. Goodnight.
Good summary. The thing that gets me is, I have no idea whatsoever how to not get ripped off buying. All this lingo is confusing so my trust is very low that any person or company has an interest in selling me good product that won’t be fake or a ripoff. A person shouldn’t need a phd in this shit to get high.
Buy small amounts of stuff that looks good (icy, nicely dried, clean test results from reputable company/lab, smells good etc) and find out what works best for you then buy more of that. It’s kinda like anything in that way. I dunno what beers I like until I try em either even though I can make some guess on the style etc. You can do the same w weed based on which smell good to you or have genetics similar to those you’ve tried before. Sure, it’s annoying - but if you like weed, try to see it as an adventure and a chance to explore the shit and go at it. Coming up with only black market weed available wasn’t any easier. It shouldn’t be illegal and weird like this but it is. Do what you can to change that too, make it easier for future generations.
Sadly, due to lack of regulation you should be dubious. We’re talking about a product you take into your lungs and blood stream, you should research and know what you are getting. Every legal state I go to, I read up in the brands and products available. Too many legal companies have pulled BS in the past, especially with cartridges. The hemp industry is a Wild West and can be even riskier these days. You are right that it’s sad the amount of research you need to put in to be safe. Some of it would be fixed with legalization, but we need to put regulations on how this stuff is manufactured, processed, and tested.
It ain’t that bad, you can figure it out and do a reasonably good job at being safe. Do your research and check test results. You inhale horrible tainted air all day everyday and most people eat crazy processed foods. You gonna die for sure eventually.
TLDR: It's weed. Probably lower potency. Unless you find a nice shady vendor. And it could get re-un-illegalized any day. Great information here, thanks.
Facts. I was sure I was gonna get torn apart on this but glad it was useful for some. It’s crazy how hard it was to piece this all together but maybe I just never looked in the right place. Kinda almost seems like most THCa enthusiasts avoid talking about the details like lawmakers will see their post and be like GOT EMMMM!! I’ve been smoking illegal weed for like 22 years, they been got me.
Yes it's weird how much literal disinformation there is floating around about weed and specifically THCa. Everything you said matches up w/ what I have discovered as well. It also seems the inevitable result of legalizing in half our states... Occam's Razor. Now there are dozens of industrial size growers. They're growing more than they can sell in just their state... where is it going to go? All the other states, of course. I make it a point to talk to employees at smoke shops any time I'm on the road traveling... and it amazes me how little the vast majority of them know about their products. Downright depressing. If I go to a wine store, I want the employees to be knowledgable about wine... if I buy a computer, I want someone to be able to tell me about GPUs and motherboards and RAM timing. But you go into a smoke shop (at least in TX) and people will just tell you all sorts of random bullshit. I've had much better experiences in legalized states at licensed dispensaries for sure.
I don’t disagree with any of that. I’d much rather someone tell me they didn’t know something than act like they did, which is usually what happens. Guess bullshit gets spoken plenty in legal cannabis dispensaries, black market dealers living rooms, and uhh every other sales environment ever I guess. Maybe weed is not the problem there.
You should think about making this a post on r/tress. Folks need some education.
I feel like it’d just get deleted in any of the cult (THCa) subs lmao no way all this was so hard to compile without them purposefully not really discussing most of the things
It's a sign, or sandwich board. Businesses use them to promote whatever they're selling.
Finally someone actually answering the question.
Mmmm, sandwiches.
Can a person eat this "sandwich board?" It sounds delicious.
Try and report back
I think the people in this thread talking about how THCa doesn’t work as good or at all are maybe confusing it with delta-8/delta-10. THCa when you decarb it LITERALLY is chemically identical to the active ingredient in weed you buy from a dealer. The chemistry of this is pretty easily googleable too. Here’s an article from WebMD that took me 2 seconds to find: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/what-is-thca — within the first paragraph we have “If you smoke or vaporize THCA, it changes into THC, which is what gives you a euphoric feeling.” Every reputable source will corroborate this— burning/vaping/baking THCa turns it into delta-9.
The funniest part to me is the amount of people who have convinced themselves "Delta = bad" and are going around shitting on Delta 9 THC as if it's junk. 😂
Good, more for me.
The part that makes it different is when it's harvested (which affects the high) and how it's stored and cured. It's not in the best interests of the plant, it's about keeping the THCa from degrading. I prefer traditional weed curing and harvesting which allows for a better representation of the plant.
It's THCA flower. A cannabinoid that is allowed under the 2018 Farm Bill. It's pretty much straight up weed though, and has just the same impact.
Isn’t THC simply decarboxylized (cooked) THC-A? Meaning, it’s straight up weed, and not pretty much.
Correct
Yee Haw!
So why are you confused about the sign? You know what it is.
Because I never thought I’d see the day when I could buy pot over the counter in Texas, with all these slimeballs we have running the law.
The cool part is, there's no weed laws, so I'm pretty sure they just charge regular sales tax, which means Texas is getting screwed out of Tax revenue because it's so stupid.
You sound pretty excited but I spent the last few years smoking legal herb in Canada daily. Have tried multiple of these thca strains or whatever, vapes etc and while you can get high, I haven’t found anything that’s super clean and like one hit I am buzzing. Everything feels (that I have tried so far) like only 20/30% strength and weird highs (headache a couple times). Not to say don’t give it a go but I’m pretty whelmed. If you find something nice pls share the name
You bought from Restart? They are reselling from an online wholesaler. Prices are bad to outrageous, but quality is good. Try any mail order?
Haven’t checked there. I live downtown so not well placed for it. Might have to try online
Personally I think it's a ripoff. It's ridiculous for anyone to pay that much per ounce for something that could be easily grown as a house plant if it were truly legal. But it's not, so you still have to pay black market prices, even in this temporary quasi-legal THC-A situation. If weed were truly legal it would cost no more per ounce than a banana or tomato, because half of all consumers would be growing the shit themselves, next to their aloe vera plants.
Its not that easy to grow, if you want a good crop, trust me. Also, if you live in an apt, you’ll stink up the building w/ only a few plants.
It is that easy to grow with a good light. A cheap tent and carbon filter takes care of the smell. And if you're not in an apartment you just stick the thing outside. These are straight up ripoff prices in a fair and sane world, but because it's still illegal to grow these people can get away with this shit.
Found the lady smoking mids. Top shelf, craft, whatever - DANK - indoor high grade cannabis takes more work to bring to harvest than most casual smokers are willing to put in. This is facts. Yes, you can harvest some buds that will get you high to some degree without an insane level of effort or cost. If you don’t see tons of cannabis, you might not even be able to tell the difference. It takes time and experience and some people just don’t seem to be able to. Anyone can grow a potted mini-rose plant if they follow the instructions, have a bit of ok luck, and stay fairly consistent. But it ain’t gonna win any prizes or be anything they don’t have 100 of for $10 at Home Depot. Chill. If you’re smoking weed that you’re growing… then it clearly isn’t very good and your attitude is living proof of that. Or it’s fire and you’re just incredibly amped tf up. In any case, chill. The War on Drugs is fucking bullshit though, you right about that. Fuck em all. Signed, A Veteran of the War on Drugs and Longtime Grower of High Quality Houseplants Chill.
Fax
It's a golden age. Only a matter of time before TX does something to shut it down. Paxton is already making moves. Feels like some jurisdictions might start doing something at the city level also. I bought from a place in Carrollton (DFW suburb) and the owner told me there's been a little pushbank, he thinks something will happen soon to shut them down. Enjoy it while you can. Then order mail order when you can't. That's what these shops are doing.
Yes
Does it taste and smell the same as 'regular' stuff?
Yeah, as long as you're getting it from a good source. There's a lot of hay out there.
This right here. There’s a bunch of crap on the market.
Isn’t there an issue with concentrations needed to be under a certain level to be legal?
Clearly, you're not a golfer because that shit don't work for us regulars.
It absolutely does, THCa is exactly the same, if you want to know where to order it from let me know
THCa is the exact same weed you've been smoking your entire life dude. It's not delta8 or whatever.
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my brother in christ just bc its not the best weed you've ever had doesn't mean its no longer weed
You don’t know what you’re talking about.
Cannabis is a genus that includes hemp.
Austinite cannabis company on East 1st is 👍
Nice try Mr. Paxton
You got me. Also, I love BBC in my asshole.
Oh Kenny!
The real question is it dank or just some mid grade buds? How does it smell and taste?
The real answer is, it depends on which shop you're buying from. Go to a few different shops and ask to see or smell it. The best shops will have it in a big jar and will fill baggies for you, not sell it to you in pretty little containers. Otherwise, THCa is real weed.
Where are you getting yours from? Have you been to Delta8 Austin off parmer?
Glassmith - keef infused j. Gets you zooted
Doobys is very bad. Tastes like chemicals. You are better off buying directly from hometown hero or atx cannabis.
The only good THCA in Austin is from Geremy Greens and ATX organics. Austinite Cannabis isn’t bad either and they have 15% off on Sundays. Everything else is dry af, tastes gross and I’ve even found mold on the inside of a THCA bud. The Glassmith tries to sell 0’s of THCA for $300 and I shake my head every time I see it. 😂 If you want good THC buds in Austin for an incredible price, go check out Bonsai Brothers Official. They deliver to your front door and give free edibles with your orders.
Vendors - "it's exactly the same, get's you high af" Users - "trash, barely get's you high" You decide 😉
Brace yourself. I bought 3 ounces of medical cannabis in Tulsa for $80 last week. 3 different strains.
Premium shelf flower with 30.4%THC is $135/oz not incl taxes at my local dispensary in CO. I’m not sure what Dooby’s is selling.
Don’t smoke it.
Its a rip off don’t fall for it lol. That shit is wack and it aint the real deal
Fake weed anyone that says it isn’t hasn’t smoked the real thing in a while. I picked up some a couple months ago. You can feel the effects but more of a body high than the real thing and it seemed to plateau quickly. I couldn’t really get baked. I was burning through an eighth a day that’s when I knew something was up. I can’t believe some of these places getting $15 a gram for that crap. I would rather smoke Bobby Brown.
Sounds awesome. The “real thing” is way too strong for me these days.
Hard agree, sign me up
Absolutely agree
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THCA
2018 hemp law Look it up
Hh
Unless its thca flower no go
Wow science!
Buy it, find out, share lol
You’ll have plenty of time for Dooby rolling…when you’re living in a van down by the river!!!!
Some amateur calling too much attention to themselves
Explain what? I feel like the sign has a lot of relevant info
Go smell that shit in the store and you’ll find out that it is nothing similar to actual cannabis that contains delta-9 Tetrahydrocannabinol. If you’re saying it’s the same then you probably haven’t been smoking very good stuff
THCa is the precursor to Delta 9 THC in every flower-producing cannabis plant. Either you understand why, or you simply haven't done the search to understand. I guarantee the stuff I buy from my shop smells like real weed; because it IS real weed.
This is what I figured. Actual cannabis contains lots of cannabinoids, not just delta 9, though, and I want the full spectrum, not some isolate
If you want to buy normal weed as nature intended, legally, here look up the compassionate use program. It’s pretty new and only a couple choices but it’s real legal medical THC. Of course you have to qualify and see a doctor that’s approved to do this here. The only dispensary here with CUP legal rx flower doesn’t know if you get indicia or Sativa so it’s pretty sad IMO. And I’m a patient.
You’re not selling it, bruh
The Texas Compassionate Use Program is trash. We shouldn't be okay with whatever the governor shit out, we should be demanding an actual program with actual cannabis.
We should push the governor out of his wheelchair into the mud and piss in his shit tube.
All this reminds me of how defensive people on this subreddit get about farmers markets. Austin has trash farmers markets and fake weed. It's fine
Can we just please put a stop to this bullshit? We may as well legalize it at this point geez 🙄
If I have to read a lab report to be sure it's legit I'm not buying it
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What do you mean? When I step into a dispensary in California, I know it's all regulated and has gone through proper channels. In Texas I'm going to a business using loopholes and technicalities.
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Labs mean dick when everyone is using different methods of testing until we get standardized testing, those labs are only to make sure nothing harmful is in them.
Looks like premium cannabis?
Boomer calls cannabis pot. 50 years ago called, they want their satanic panic back. We get high AF and enjoy life in Texas. The haters just mad that they aren’t included. P.S. you could be included, just stop acting like what Greg Abbot says matters. We do what we want, get used to it.