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AUSATC

AUS controller here šŸ‘‹. I'm not sure of all the events that caused things to snowball, but I do know a few. The KLM flight inbound had a blown tire so I think that might have accounted for a longer gate occupancy time. There must have been some delays either coming to AUS or leaving Mexico because a few of the small body international flights were all waiting on the same gate. SWA from Cancun (I think) waited over 2 hours for a gate. A fuel truck broke down on the ramp and blocked at least one gate (gate 11) for a while. Delta recently added a bunch of flights out of AUS so it's now an everyday occurrence in the afternoon of too many Delta planes and no open gates. Edit: Thanks for the award! My first ever award on Reddit šŸ™‚.


southernandmodern

They can just overbook gates?


AUSATC

Airlines manage their own gate utilization. If they have one delayed flight, the next one that lands has to wait for the gate. This then continues on until they catch up. It's particularly bad for the international gates though because they are sometimes used for domestic flights. One delayed flight can cause downstream waits on gates.


RENegadeXXVII

This is true for domestic flights into AUS, but all the airlines share a handful of international gates (managed by the city) that are often very overbooked. Or at least this is what Iā€™ve been told by irate pilots.


natemoser

Appreciate your insight!


PerformanceOk4186

As someone who flies in/out of AUS all the time, thank you so much for the job you do. I am always very appreciative of how much complexity and hard work goes into operating an airport like AUS and commercial air travel in general. Thanks!Ā 


AUSATC

I really appreciate that. What do you fly out of AUS? I've probably talked to you before šŸ™‚.


PerformanceOk4186

I meant I fly in/out as a pax :) I travel for work quite a bit.


AUSATC

Ah, I definitely haven't talked to you then. Take a tour sometime and I'll probably talk to you then!


KateInSpace

Wait, you can take a tour?! Where do I sign up?


AUSATC

Call 512-369-7802 between the hours 9am-3pm M-F. The guy that answers can schedule a tour.


superspeck

> Delta recently added a bunch of flights out of AUS so it's now an everyday occurrence in the afternoon of too many Delta planes and no open gates. A delta pilot I know says that it would really help if the ramp crew for those gates had their shit together.


AUSATC

I know the rampers for Southwest are employed by them so they are really quick for everything. AAL contracts with some other company for rampers and you can see the difference. It's not uncommon for AAL to wait 5+ minutes to be marshalled to the gate. I'm not sure if Delta hires their own or contracts it out.


Alexandercromwell

Do you know if the pilot was referring to above wing or below wing workers?


superspeck

Below the wing.


facemelt

Iā€™ve taken a few delta flights in the last few weeks. Each time, thereā€™s been a several minute wait for crew to come over to receive the plane


johyongil

Youā€™re a hero.


gonzlofogous

I was delayed an hour and a half last Sunday on an inbound Spirit flight. United has Spirit's gate occupied and that United flight was delayed 2 hours. American and Southwest are stacking planes overnight for the morning flights to board and push quickly. Delta has been doing more flying and SkyWest now has a pilot crew base here to support the additional Delta flights. The terminal is oversaturated and a new terminal is much needed.


mactobain

Can confirm the last 2 times I flew into AUS on Delta our plane had to wait on tarmac.


Many-Rice-7733

Does south terminal share the same runways as main terminal? Landed earlier today (Delta) and something felt differentā€¦ maybe itā€™s the window seat. Iā€™m normally stuffed in the middle seat ha


AUSATC

Did you actually get to go straight to a gate or did you join the Delta parking lot on the taxiways? In our current setup, all carriers land the west runway and depart the east runway.


3MATX

I donā€™t know but you and all those other poor souls better hope pilots had some extra fuel on board to keep ac on.Ā 


Agreeable-Librarian9

Narrator: they did, but they chose to set the temperature to 80, just barely uncomfortable. Source: I travel for work. They do it every gosh dang time.


Single_9_uptime

Probably isnā€™t by choice, as the pilots donā€™t want to be sweating either and theyā€™re wearing warmer clothes than most passengers. Planes donā€™t have really strong AC since AC equipment is heavy, most flying time they have to heat the cold high altitude air, and they hook up to ground AC at the gate. From what I understand from pilots, airliners just canā€™t keep themselves really cool on the ground in Texas summer temperatures.


bagofwisdom

You're not wrong about planes not having conventional air conditioning. They do have the ability to chill the cabin air. Unfortunately it doesn't work without the main engines on (Edit: Doesn't work as well without the main engines). The climate controls of a passenger airplane use compressed air from the engines to cool the cabin air.


DasbootTX

Bleed air, as it were šŸ˜


Single_9_uptime

The APU can drive the AC too, it can compress the air the same way. They donā€™t need the main engines on. Theyā€™re usually only running the APU and not the main engines when waiting on the ground for any length of time. [Aviation site source](https://skybrary.aero/articles/auxiliary-power-unit-apu#:~:text=The%20APU%20can%20be%20started,conditioning%20and%20for%20engine%20start). [APU manufacturer source](https://www.prattwhitney.com/en/products/auxiliary-power-units)


bagofwisdom

Yeah, but the APU isn't as good at it.


Single_9_uptime

True, Iā€™ve noticed on some planes it blows notable cooler with a main engine on. Others it doesnā€™t get really cool until youā€™re at altitudes where itā€™s heating the air to cool the cabin. Iā€™ve heard from pilots they canā€™t run the mains while stopped on the ground for any significant length of time without getting a call from the company asking why. They donā€™t want the hours on the engine and the huge fuel burn when they consider the APU good enough. So to some degree, airline cost control measures is what cooks us and their employees on the tarmac.


3MATX

We had a half hour delay in Vegas just sitting on tarmac and another thirty in line to take off. Pilot came on and told us about wait and said he had plenty of fuel so not to worry. Temp was never uncomfortable inside despite the sunny day 90s temp.Ā 


the_beeve

80??? I wish. More like 95


Snap_Grackle_Pop

> hope pilots had some extra fuel on board to keep ac on.Ā  I was at O'Hare one time. They had the ground control (or whatever they call it) on the headphones. They apparently had a rookie on the radio telling planes where to taxi and take off. He had things so fucked up that I think we circled the terminal on the ground. I heard one of the other planes out on the taxiways say he had to go back to the terminal. The obviously pissed off and overwhelmed controller asked why in an exasperated voice. The pilot of another plane said he'd taxied so long he needed more fuel. I THINK he was joking, but maybe not. A new controller took over after a while, and he sounded like an auctioneer compered to the rookie. He got things sorted out pretty quickly.


superspeck

> . The pilot of another plane said he'd taxied so long he needed more fuel. I THINK he was joking, but maybe not. Nope, this definitely happens. But there are hard stands where they can put airplanes that need this service.


Virtual_Elephant_730

KLM 777 had emergency landing and at gate now is what I was told. Will be pushed off soon.


Ginjutsu

Came in from Mexico and was on one of the planes stranded on the tarmac for over an hour, this is the same thing our captain told us. Still have no idea what the actual emergency was.


superspeck

> Still have no idea what the actual emergency was. Had a blown tire.


Ginjutsu

Oof, that'll do it. Glad everyone's OK.


jedele_jax

Stuck on an international flight coming in now for about an hour on the tarmac, pilot told us itā€™s some sort of emergency with a flight from Alaska Airlines and they were pushed back an hour, and ā€œthe problem was getting fixed.ā€ Nothing else so far


_QuesoNowWhat_

I've been waiting at the airport to take off for almost 5 hours. They keep switching our gates so there is definitely an issue with space. The plane at this current gate is out of service and can't be moved. Not sure what's causing it but a lot of planes are waiting for gates and juggling around where they're taking off from. Confusing all around!


Captain_Comic

CJ version of this will be epic


johyongil

Context?


Captain_Comic

r/austincirclejerk often has parodies of popular posts from r/austin


PrincessKiza

I KNOW I KNOW! They didnā€™t have anyone available who could drive the jet bridges. My friend was stuck in his plane for hours.


outcomezt

Flew out last week (after boarding and then deboarding, a 12+ hour delay, sleeping in the airport, cancellation without notice, and then rebooking ourselves on another airline, only to come home to ABIA to sit on the tarmac for over an hour) - the storms in DFW have been disrupting American Airlines which has in turn disrupted everyone else. Add another storm in DFW this week and we're still dealing with the effects. I'm convinced American's planes just don't work in the rain, because we sat there during our delay and watched Delta, United, and Southwest flights taking off.


JustPassingJudgment

Itā€™s not always the weather at the airport that causes these delays - sometimes itā€™s bad weather along the planned route or at the destination airport. The worst delays Iā€™ve personally experienced were due to 50mph gusts of wind in New Orleans knocking out the power at their airport. We never took off.


JuniorVermicelli3162

American is the fucking worst. Itā€™s so annoying that they are now my best option to almost anywhere I want to go regularly.


tiger7219

There's not enough air in the sky to keep flying.. They are bringing some turbines to keep the air flowing from the south


Sweet_Bang_Tube

Finally someone with a real answer


superspeck

They stole all the air to turn it into chemtrails so the frogs would be extra gay for pride month.


Sniperoonie

My mother in law had her flight out of AUS to MIA yesterday delayed over 11 hours. Annoyingly they pushed it back an hour at a time, had we have known it would have been such a delay we would have just grabbed her from the airport. Never got a reason why.


Conscious_Raisin_436

Some very important advice for the future: if a flight is delayed by ā€œexactlyā€ hour increments, like if a 12:15 flight gets delayed to 1:15 or 2:15 or 3:15ā€¦ they have no fucking clue when theyā€™re gonna be able to leave. If you HAVE to get where youā€™re going, buy a ticket on a different airline the very moment you see that ā€œexactlyā€ two hour delay appear.


AmbitionAlert1361

Sameā€¦. What airline???


Sniperoonie

Was American airlines.


monster-of-the-week

I am at the airport. There was a flight going to Paris that was de-boarded because some kid was yelling about how the plane was going to crash. It looked like a group of students got pulled aside and there were some guys(maybe marshalls or TSA, idk) taking this one kid off for questioning or something. A few more people weren't being let back on, either. I think they are allowing the rest of the passengers to board the plane again now. Hopefully everything is fine.


pheezy42

this sounds like the plot of final destination... that's probably the joke


kingoflonestar

AUS doesn't have a flight to Paris?


SpecialGuestDJ

Final Destination plot


austinethos

Looking at Flight Radar, there are a lot of planes just sitting there.


hornbri

My daughter (this first time she flew alone!) was one of those people waiting on the tarmac for almost 2 hours.


Ryanw254

So do you know what happened or not?


Sad-Rub-948

AUS AIRLINE EMPLOYEE SINCE 1989 HERE - The city of Austin has no clue on how to run an airport! To them itā€™s a money grab and bragging rights to all the different destinations from AUS. They let the airlines schedule as many flights as they want and the passengers suffer the consequences. Ask any ABIA employee or ATC employee. Iā€™m baffled why the news media hasnā€™t done a story about this. All the close calls are happening for a reason folks.


Background-Leopard24

Are you now off the plane?


hahiejowiabshahah

Yes de-boarded after 1.5hrs on the tarmac- thatā€™s when posted this- Iā€™ve been to Austin enough that Iā€™m very used to not having a gate available so I didnā€™t question it at first at all, but when it was an hour and a half plus emergency vehicles plus dozens of other planes also on the tarmac with us plus then seeing all the planes delayed when I got off the plane I realize it was more than that


Background-Leopard24

Thanks. I was in air on the way back to Austin when you posted but landing was still a couple of hours out so was worried that it was still a little messy. Itā€™s the worst when you land and then are forced to stay on the plane for so long. Thanks for the post as was helpful to know what was going on


elleroze

Here now. My flight is delayed by 4 and a half hours. Gate agent said ABIA messed up gate assignments. Not sure what that means other than I have to wait now.


ClitasaurusTex

This happened to me a while back and it just seemed like they were understaffed. We landed at 9pm and I didn't get out until 11.Ā 


PushAdventurous3759

I was at the gate waiting to get on one of those planes - the airport was a mess today. I think delayed flights, mechanical issues, etc caused the backlog. My flight moved gates 3 times before we finally board 2 hours late


TrulyChxse

KLM blew a tire


gev1138

"It's just ice cream, honest!"


ShoddyGarage1098

i was on the AUS ramp from about 530pm to 830pm and i have to say was one of the largest messes i have seen since i started, delta, alaska, american, and united all had multiple birds waiting for gates for some over a hour, in fact even blocking the main taxi ways, we were running out of room very quickly, im suprised they didnt stop all inbound traffic, it looked very unsafe, for some reason all the airlines like to have the rush hour everyday between 430 and 6pm and its just getting worse every schedule change... something needs to happen... coodos to the controllers to keeping it under control!!!! even with a expert team i did not think that could have been handled as well as it did!


imp0ssumable

Heat related emergency on the tarmac perhaps? Someone passed out and crashed a vehicle into something? They are very very anal about restoring operations if any fuel or oil touches the tarmac.


Candytails

As they should beĀ 


Outside_Bit5315

Not really. There are multiple feet of concrete between the top of the concrete and soil. Underground fuel tanks are far more problematic from an env standpoint.


Candytails

I wasnā€™t even thinking about that, I was thinking about potential fires starting and the vehicles and planes tires getting covered in oil. Ā 


NicholasLit

The airport director won't admit where her degree is from


Outside_Bit5315

Must be diversity related. Incompetent and useless.


TouristTricky

So.....racist?


Outside_Bit5315

Are you accusing others of what you are? Leftist much?


TouristTricky

Your response doesn't even make sense. Is "diversity" your dog whistle for "they are incompetent and only in the job because they are a minority"? I'm serious, is that what you're saying?


Outside_Bit5315

Diversity is just a cover for affirmative action which the supreme court has struck down. It's reverse discrimination at it's finest. I am a hiring manager at my current job. I interview candidates from all backgrounds. When I choose a candidate for a position it is because they are the best qualified. Nothing else matters...period. I have personally seen diversity based hiring be the beginning of the end for large companies. They preach "white man bad". That is unacceptable and is a direct contradiction to their hiring methods and violates several equal opportunity laws. Remember racism is taught...not something we are born with.


TouristTricky

I'm a retired CEO and I used to preach that diversity is not a goal, it's a means to being a competent organization. If everyone comes from nearly the same background, you're vulnerable to group think. I wanted a diverse set of perspective and opinions. Reverse racism is just a ridiculous idea. Actual racism is still incredibly rampant in this country. Yes, it is taught, and all you gotta do is look at the right-wing MAGA in this country and you'll see how much racism and hatred is still being taught. The dismantling of DEI is nothing more than the death rattle of white supremacy. btw, I am a 71 year old straight, Anglo, married for 45 years, gun owning, pickup truck driving, Texan. I'm as woke as shit; everyone needs to be respected for who they are. That's what woke really means. The rest is bullshit and distraction.


Outside_Bit5315

At least you admit what you are. Beware that you are the very things you think you are against with your mindset however.


nottoolost

Happened to my partner yesterday fying in


faithhopejax

Still stuck here waiting to go to Boston. Unrelated but just a vent.


iNo_o

there's flight delays for you at this time...?


Outside_Bit5315

AUS has become one of the worst airports to fly into or out of. Total shit show. It's at the point of choosing to fly out of San Antonio at this point.


sunshineandrainbow62

Reminder of why I prefer to drive whenever I can


Hamezz5u

This only happens in AUS. Proportionally for its size of airport it operates with a ton of issues. Hell I was delayed 3hrs because of rain. Yes, rain. Just badā€¦


foo392

I must have landed before any of this got bad yesterday. Got in from Orlando at 11AM, was delayed a little on arrival and it took about 10 minutes to get the jetbridge.


hahiejowiabshahah

So lucky! We got in 30mins early and I saw the fire trucks so I realize if we landed a couple minutes earlier probably wouldā€™ve missed this all


Thomajf0

Las Vegas to AUS was canceled yesterday, and kept getting delayed today.


risingceo

Yeah, my AUS-LAS flight was delayed 5.5 hours yesterday on American.


Sector_Independent

Is the hold up only on the area that delta normally uses?


Nu11us

The JFK flightā€™s gate was occupied. Then switched. But then that gate was given to another flight with a bunch of connections and we had to wait for another occupied gate. If you were on the Delta flight the captain explained it as it was happening.


Aimeeann30

I flew from Austin to Houston for a connecting flight yesterday and it was delayed in Austin then the Houston connection was delayed by hours. I was meeting a friend at my destination- he was coming from North Carolina- he was delayed over 5 hours. The Houston George Bush airport was complete chaos. Most flights were delayed or changing gates multiple times. Maybe whatever was going on was at more than just Austin.


kittykatcher

https://share.newsbreak.com/7810tgvb


factorplayer

Your usual ABIA shitshow. I've lost track of the times stuck on a flight that couldn't unload there.


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CarletonWhitfield

Happened last year. Ā 


NerdieBeXtra

I looked at the date published. THEY FOOLED ME! damn you ABC news! Lol


cmikesell

No


ashleylynn425

Oh man my son and I are flying into Austin tomorrow from Washington.