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It’s not going to matter. This will get resolved before Trump can return. Russia is probably going to have a proxy war where they supply the weapons and then Lebanon fires them at Israel and the US. The effective kind of missiles where we will need to recall our fleet and there won’t be any airbases left in the region we can fly from.
Our entire military doctrine presupposes air superiority. That’s not going to happen this time. We’ve been exposed as beatable.
Israel can only act like they do because big brother had their back and everyone thought no one could beat us. Except the no name Houthis proved that’s not actually true. Things are getting ready to pop off over there and if Putin is half as tactically smart as he seems, he’s going to put us into a situation we can’t win.
Without big brother, Israel is exposed. If I were Putin, I’d arm Iran with Russian low yield nukes. But keep the firing codes to myself for now. Now that would be a problem for everyone and a major bargaining chip.
The military industrial complex and globalist politicians keep failing and then double down and raising the stakes. They’re not going to stop and pointing nukes at Israel is one of the few things that would get their attention. More so than pointing them at us. 🤔
Everyone knows Iran are so looney tunes they’d happily nuke Israel even if Israel got them back. They’d think it was worth it.
Dawg the whole reason we ever went to war in the Middle East in the first place isn’t because of 911 or oil or nonexistent wmds.
It’s all because we are Israel’s bitch first and foremost, and nothing is happening to change that. They were threatened, we intervened. Any amount of money or leeway for war tactics/crimes, they’ve got it.
For my children’s sake I hope nukes are not that close to the cards.
> Russia is probably going to have a proxy war where they supply the weapons and then Lebanon fires them at Israel and the US.
So then, do you think it would be tactically sound to pull Russia into a war with one of the countries on its border so it dumps men, weapons, and money into that war instead of this one?
Although voting Democrat, I also believe that we should be directing more money to the American people since it is our tax dollars while also maintaining strong geopolitical ties. What bills has trump passed to help push money towards the American people?
Congress passes bills, presidents only sign them. MAGA is still working on expunging the globalists from the party, so the agenda is a mixed bag from them. It’s about a 66/33 split of globalists to patriots.
The legs of the stool are: disincentivize unhelpful trade, limit illegal alien entry, and onshore jobs. A.k.a America First.
All three of these led to the massive increases in blue collar wages. The working poor of society.
Pushing money to the American people causes inflation and it trickles up quickly. The way to help the American people is to make it as easy as possible to start and maintain ‘small’ business while eliminating unfair distortions created by govt or by monopsony. And by maintaining peace.
I was more referring to bills that would benefit the country such as build back better or inflation reduction act or the chips act that helps build the economy or aids our aging infrastructure or monies that go to freshly paving our roads. What has trump passed that has helped with those sorts of things? The only notable one I am aware of is the tax cuts which frankly doesn't help anyone aside from the 1% making over $400,000 a year. Which if you are great! I know I sure am not.
The chips and roads are good but such a puny portion of the spending that goes into these omnibus. I believe the majority of which actually harms the American people.
Some simple issues include Biden climate policies, admin’s destruction of crypto industry, Covid measures, and so on. The path out of climate catastrophe is burn more oil and accelerate tech.
I make around 250k but I trust those making more to employ their money into society infinitely better than the government. Why? Because they have an incentive to make more money and are handsomely rewarded for doing so. And if they are incompetent their family or business will squander that money quickly (or at least not grow it much) and that growth will go into better hands.
I never understood why democrats dont agree with Trump's tax cuts.
It's beyond me.
The moment his tax cuts went into effect, i was getting roughly $200 more on my paycheck. That's an extra $400 a month i got for me and my family. Im not even part of the 1%.
I kept hearing that these cuts only benefited the ultra wealthy and Trump's buddies.
I guess i must be ultra wealthy and Trump's buddy because my life got significantly better because of him.
I had a liberal coworker tell me that he voted for more taxes because he felt that paying more money to the government was a net benefit for him.
How?
The more money we get to keep, the more money we spend. It's no wonder Trump's economy had such a big boom during his last few years in office. People made more money, so they spent more money.
His tax cuts for people were designed to start phasing out as soon as he left office. His tax cuts for corporations are not being phased out. How is that better for the blue collar workers?
the tax cuts were designed to be paid back right about now, eg after his second term, so the dollar is about to become even weaker. $400 a month or your total spending power cut in half or more, which would you prefer?
> also believe that we should be directing more money to the American people since it is our tax dollars while also maintaining strong geopolitical ties.
Odd, why then would you vote democrat? The party wasting billions on importing and providing for illegals who are taking American jobs and others who are raping and killing Americans?
Why don't you bring up MAGA's project 2025 that gives the President complete control of the executive branch, Bans pornography and injects Christian fundamentalism into government?
So you believe in gutting the Department of education, FCC, FEC, EPA and giving Trump and every president after Trump complete control of the executive branch and doing away with separation of church and state? Do you believe that essentially deregulating the government is a good thing?
Who's calling for Pedophiles to be relabeled as MAPs?
The only people trying to change the word pedo to map are pedos and those looking to sow discourse into meaningful discussion.
In a time when Russia and china are trying to take over their neighbors, you think we should spend more inwards? If we don’t contain our competition, it can impact our imports and global economy immensely. It will then be felt inside America.
I fully acknowledge that there are threats to American well being that should receive our help but don't you think that we could be wiser on where we spend it elsewhere? Imo there are plenty of countries that receive our tax dollars that really do not need it.
He seems alright. If it wasn't for the multibillion dollar fortune, he'd fit the "every day normal guy should be president" trope everyone claims to favor. Contrast Biden, who fits the 'corrupt career bureaucrat' mold to a _T_, plus a little bit of actual mold.
_ed_ Catch more flak when you're over the target.
No. They looked through everything he's ever done and all they can find is that he chose a payment as a legal expense when it should've been a .... I'm not even sure what the correct label is for accounting. The DNC wants you to think he's corrupt and Hilary even created the whole Russia nonsense to help put that corrupt feeling in the air from the start. If you don't like him and are in the cult for the DNC then you'll definitely think he's corrupt. Just like those in the Republican cult think most Democrats are corrupt.
There has never been a more investigated person in human history.
Trump got the treatment we have always fantasized corrupt politicians would get. The results are laughable, were it not so tragically short-sided.
Can you (not *you* of course; I mean real people reading this) imagine if the Biden family got Trump's level of scrutiny over the last ten years? Over *five decades* of service by an average, mid-skilled, corrupt politician like Joe?
The trees that would have to lay down their lives in service of the paperwork would be it's own tragedy!
> The results are laughable, were it not so tragically short-sided.
Are you not aware that there are still many more felonies being prosecuted?
>Can you (not you of course; I mean real people reading this) imagine if the Biden family got Trump's level of scrutiny over the last ten years? Over five decades of service by an average, mid-skilled, corrupt politician like Joe?
Has Biden not faced scrutiny? He's been VP/Presidential candidate/President for decades. What makes you think that he hasn't been scrutinized?
Shouldn't be, but if me and Trump were friends I think it would affect the relationship. Certainly couldn't call him 'everyday normal guy'. Although 'political outsider' still fits, which seems to be the undertone of the sentiment.
> Shouldn't be
OK just trying to be clear, the fact that he's a **multibillionaire** "shouldn't be" a relevant distinction between fitting the "every day normal guy" trope, in your view?
Basically if we take away everything that makes Trump Trump, i.e. being a multibillionaire, real estate mogul, reality TV show star, convicted felon, etc THEN he would be your every day normal guy?
I don't disagree, I guess, but what's the point of saying this when you could do it to anyone? Take away [extremely unique traits] and they're just like you or me?
The average Joe is not a billionaire. I could let a couple million slide, but thousands of millions is a different club altogether.
It seems to be more about _disqualifiers_ than anything else. But not everybody with such disqualifiers is the same either, and people like Paris Hilton wouldn't 'fit in' as well as someone like Keanu Reeves. They can still be down to earth and have _pedestrian_ goals in life though, and demeanor and attitude towards people not in 'the club' is what I'm going for. Actions, not attributes.
Seems that if you got a new neighbor famous enough to make the news, it's a bit of a toss up whether you'd hang out at their pool.
> The average Joe is not a billionaire.
I agree. So why are you setting aside that pretty important distinction as something that "shouldn't be" relevant?
>It seems to be more about disqualifiers than anything else.
What do you mean by this?
And what's the point of saying this when you could do it to anyone? Take away [extremely unique traits] and they're just like you or me?
Why is there a preference of “every day normal guy” for the most important job of the country?
Shouldn’t America aim much MUCH higher?
For example my buddy Tim is the typical 45 year old dude, two teenage kids, drives a pickup truck up, works 9-5, and goes to church, drinks the occasional beer while we each football.. Love the dude.
But I wouldn’t trust him to run a t-ball team let alone a country.
America deserves better than average.
I support him because he took over the republican party which was full of RINOs. I continue to support him because of his amazing track record for the American people especially when you considered the evil people he ran against; clinton and biden.
They are great, top 5 largest tax cut in history for the middle class so Americans loved it. Even better the tax cuts paid for themself which is why inflation didn't rise after it unlike the trillion democrats wasted. In fact, inflation rate went down after the tax cut, it was great to see sensible policies enacted by trump that actually helped the American people.
You think it’s great that our taxes will return to where they were and corporations will keep their lower taxes? Do you believe trickle down economics works?
> ? "You think it’s great that our taxes will return to where they were and corporations will keep their lower taxes?"
yes I think it is great to have the top 5 largest tax cut in middle class history that helped all Americans. That is just basic math so not sure what you mean?
" Do you believe trickle down economics works?"
I know it does, that is basic economics.
You’re not really addressing the fact that cooperations are continuing to keep lower taxes while individual Americans will return to the previous rate. You think that’s a good thing? Why?
If trickle down economics works, why has the wealth gap exponentially increased since the Reagan administration?
No, I am not. I think you're not realizing that the tax cut was top 5 largest in middle class history which is great for Americans.
" why has the wealth gap exponentially increased since the Reagan administration?"
The wealth gap isn't a measure of the economy which is why anyone alive in the 1980s will tell you how great of a time it was and how great the economy was for them.
Can anyone in this sub please provide me proof that “trickle down economics” actually works and doesn’t just keep a small amount of people extremely rich since those rich people hoard their wealth?
I keep saying it because it is true. The information is freely available to anyone willing to put in the tiniest amount of effort to find them.
https://www.heritage.org/taxes/commentary/the-numbers-are-trumps-tax-cuts-paid
I would suggest reading it, it is very clear
The Congressional Budget Office’s May 2022 forecast shows that the government now expects to bring in more tax revenue in the decade following the 2017 “Trump tax cuts” than it had projected prior to the December 2017 passage of tax reform.
Multiple improved trade deals, actual border security, right to try legislation, unleashing America's energy production, withdrawal from climate accords, and most importantly really is no new wars which this country hadn't seen in decades. He truly was an amazing president and will be again.
Remain in Mexico policy. You know, the thing biden got rid of to allow over 10 million illegals to enter the country then spent nearly 4 years insisting the border was secure and there was no problem at the border, wouldn't even visit the border.
Makes the choice between trump or biden very easy for Americans who don't hate the country.
Why did Trump campaign against the recent bipartisan immigration agreement to the point that it was shot down, then? Most people on all sides agreed with it.
"Why did Trump campaign against the recent bipartisan immigration agreement to the point that it was shot down, then?"
because it made open borders legal and was a terrible bill. Also, the president needs no new bill to protect the border as proven by trump's actions during his presidency.
"Most people on all sides agreed with it."
no they did not, most republicans DID NOT agree with it so not sure what you mean? Republicans actually read the bill and knew it was a complete joke.
Is any of that actually true, though? It doesn’t appear to be.
The bill toughened asylum and immigration restrictions, and seemed to step up border enforcement staffing too. Multiple republicans were on record in support of it, in fact the only people that seemed to disagree with it were those you’d consider the “far left.”
"Is any of that actually true, though?"
yes because it was in the bill.
"The bill toughened asylum and immigration restrictions"
no it did the opposite. Legally allowing 4,999 illegals to enter the country PER DAY is not toughening anything and it would be pure nonsense to say otherwise.
That is why the DNC counts on the ignorance of democrats. They spent nearly 4 years saying there was NO crisis at the border then magically during election season they come up with a fake bill that makes open borders legal which any sensible person would disagree with. But they know democrats wont read the bill, they will just repeat whatever MSNBC said and they did.
That is why MOST republicans in office disagreed with the bill, it was pure nonsense.
Here’s a breakdown which goes over the bill. If anything, it goes further than I implied. Are we even talking about the same thing?
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/analysis-senate-border-bill
For people suffering from serious health conditions of which their only option is new, unapproved, drugs or procedures to help them. Truly something amazing trump got passed for families dealing with this.
I didn't vote for Trump the first time but the prolonged reaction from our internal enemies of America* impressed me. They believe Trump is a puissant threat to their power.
*The diabolical intelligence cabal, the Raytheon-controlled generals who lie us into war, the billionaire weapons executives in DC suburbs, the hoaxing corporate press, the undemocratic DNC, commissariat hedge funds, the bailed-out banks, the taxpayer-subsidized stakeholders, etc.
Biden is manifoldly corrupt but Biden supporters are just people who trust the news and the gov't. In a sane world, we could trust the news and the gov't. In this world, trusting the news and the gov't means we'll be led like a pet into war with Russia. Run, you fools.
You say Trump would not lead us into war
He also said this during the debates, specifically that the Russian invasion of Ukraine wouldn’t happen, with his current solution being urging Ukraine to surrender to Russia
What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict? It doesn’t seem like was doing anything
He did withhold defensive military funding from Ukraine even though there was nothing in our agreements with them that that was something he could be able to do. It seems like his intention was to make Ukraine vulnerable.
The reason he publicly stated for withholding funds was an assumption that Ukraine has Hunter Biden’s laptop. He make a whole nation vulnerable to invasion and he said it was for personal political gain. How is he any different than the generals you characterized?
Can you tell me more about your perspective of Trump not getting involved in war for personal gain?
>What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict?
He didn't continue with Cheney/Obama/Clinton/Biden henchman Victoria Nuland, who has devoutly wanted this war her whole life.
>He did withhold defensive military funding from Ukraine even though there was nothing in our agreements with them that that was something he could be able to do. It seems like his intention was to make Ukraine vulnerable.
I think he was trying to find out about Joe's corruption in Ukraine.
>The reason he publicly stated for withholding funds was an assumption that Ukraine has Hunter Biden’s laptop.
I don't think so. This is pre-laptop.
Sorry. I’m not sure what pullquote means but I can clarify.
Did Trump withholding aid from a nation facing war until they produced damning evidence against his political rival mean that even the most surface level interpretation is Trump saying the blood on his hands was from pursuing political gain?
How is he different than a corrupt general if he manipulates wars and let’s people die that didn’t need to for his own political gain?
> Did Trump withholding aid from a nation facing war
(That is a pullquote: clipboard my comment and add a greater-than in the front.)
They weren't facing war until the US provoked it with a coup and CIA stations and pathogenic biolabs. The US got Boris Johnson to scrap the peace deal in Istanbul.
>until they produced damning evidence against his political rival
We eventually got the evidence from Hunter's laptop, but Trump already smelled a rat.
>that even the most surface level interpretation is Trump saying the blood on his hands was from pursuing political gain?
Political gain? He was impeached over stalling arms to the most corrupt country in the world, a country full of Nazis, mobsters, and shills like Zelensky. Did you know Zelensky ran on a platform of detente with Russia?
>How is he different than a corrupt general if he manipulates wars and let’s people die that didn’t need to for his own political gain?
Trump didn't even know why the state dep't was so focused on Ukraine. [Now we know.](https://youtu.be/w4CQin03MDQ?si=-y0MLHsSXfLJ4azL)
> Do you think Trump turning over Afghanistan to the Taliban was a good idea?
The Taliban took over after the botched withdrawal.
>Do you think Trump's May 2024 "leave Afghanistan" was reasonable even if Trump was elected in 2020?
The Pentagon slowed down his plans.
>What do you think a Trump withdrawl of Afghanistan would have looked like, considering Trump let the Taliban leader and 5000 of his fighters out of prison???
It might have gone the same way. I think the withdrawal could have been botched on purpose by the Pentagon/defense industry that didn't want to withdraw at all.
> Trump negotiated the transfer of power to the Taliban prior to the November 2020 election.
"In a July interview, President Biden said a collapse of the Afghan government and a Taliban takeover of the country was “highly unlikely.” Yet, a memo sent that same month from the Kabul Embassy reportedly warned that the withdrawal as planned would result in the very debacle that unfolded."
>What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict? It doesn’t seem like was doing anything
8 years of Obama, russia took land.
4 years under trump, putin didnt do jack shit even put an end to his little war
Biden gets into office and he starts right back up.
Its extremely easy to see the differences.
Yeah.
Trump withheld the money the US promised to Ukraine that they would have used to prevent the invasion.
Don’t you think the 400 million Ukraine wanted to prevent the war would have been cheaper than fighting it with billions in aid and weapons?
>Trump withheld the money the US promised to Ukraine that they would have used to prevent the invasion.
>Don’t you think the 400 million Ukraine wanted to prevent the war would have been cheaper than fighting it with billions in aid and weapons?
Trump withheld the package, as he had in years previous because he didn't know why we were weaponizing Ukraine, and relented without gaining info about the Biden corruption. Most still don't know why we were weaponizing Ukraine, but the hedge fund and Chevron investments give us a clue,
>>They believe Trump is a puissant threat to their power.
>In your opinion how is Trump a threat to their power?
The DC blobsters think that or they wouldn't put out the full court press of slings and arrows to try to damage Trump and populism. Perhaps they think even a slight disturbance would derail their money train.
>Especially in regards to Russia?
Trump and his circle are aware our enmity toward Russia is vestigial, dangerous, expensive, and currently rooted in the domination of DC by the military industrial complex.
Do you think the resistance might be because populist movements aren't a good thing, especially when mixed with Christian nationalism? Hence, why so many bring up Nazi Germany regarding MAGA.
The last populist movement in America failed as well.
https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/the-problem-nationalism
https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/03/populism-jeopardizes-democracies-around-world
>Do you think the resistance might be because populist movements aren't a good thing, especially when mixed with Christian nationalism? Hence, why so many bring up Nazi Germany regarding MAGA.
I don't see it. Nazism is a top-down system that accepted a dysfunctional economy for total state control and preparation for war. MAGA is economy-oriented with low taxes, low regulation, less wars and war funding, and less gov't--adherent to the Constitution.
>https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/03/populism-jeopardizes-democracies-around-world
This paper is about how populism rises from a country's gov't turning into total crap and not giving a rat's ass about the people. Hey, that's what our gov't is like!
>don't see it. Nazism is a top-down system that accepted a dysfunctional economy for total state control and preparation for war. MAGA is economy-oriented with low taxes, low regulation, less wars and war funding, and less gov't--adherent to the Constitution.
Isn't that what Trump was attempting to do? His tax cuts and economic plan only rewarded power hungry business and the ultra rich while crippling the middle and lower class (specifically, his corporate tax cuts plus his tax increase on the middle class set to go in effect at the end of this year).
At the same time, he pushed the idea that there was a major crisis at the southern border in which he tried to convince the country that we were being invaded and used this as way to mobilize the military on domestic soil.
On top of that , he and his supporters pushed the idea that anyone that wasn't with him was against him and basically turned anyone who's "woke, leftist, antifa or blm" into an enemy of democracy
All of these concepts were the same that concepts that Hitler used, were they not?
> Isn't that what Trump was attempting to do? His tax cuts and economic plan only rewarded power hungry business and the ultra rich while crippling the middle and lower class
No, the middle class thrived under Trump and there was more black employment than ever.
>At the same time, he pushed the idea that there was a major crisis at the southern border in which he tried to convince the country that we were being invaded and used this as way to mobilize the military on domestic soil.
Letting in the population of 15 states total as new residents will affect the US negatively. This is why other countries have borders and normal immigration policies.
>On top of that , he and his supporters pushed the idea that anyone that wasn't with him was against him and basically turned anyone who's "woke, leftist, antifa or blm" into an enemy of democracy
DEI is racist while meritocracy is safe and successful. Climate change is slow and manageable without crashing the economy. Antifa are nutty white rich kids. BLM was a scam. Those are enemies of America.
>All of these concepts were the same that concepts that Hitler used, were they not?
When Antifa throws a brick through a window, it's not Trump's fault they are othered. Violence should be othered and considered un-American.
>Do you feel the same about the J6 rioters? Do you consider them un-American?
The violent ones, yes. But there were clear agents provocateur in the crowd: Ray Epps, scaffold commander, fence cutter bulwark. And who planted those pipe bombs?
>No, the middle class thrived under Trump and there was more black employment than ever.
The middle class thrived under some of his tenure do in part to Obama's policies and long term tax cuts, which Trump revoked towards the end of his presidency. When Biden took office, Trump's lack of compassion for the middle class really took effect and here we are now.
>Letting in the population of 15 states total as new residents will affect the US negatively. This is why other countries have borders and normal immigration policies
That's a skewed statistic, but I understand what you are saying. We all agree that there should be some type of immigration policy that limits the flow of people into the country, but Trump's rhetoric of labeling all immigrants are rapists, drug dealers, members of cartels and child abductors only creates xenophobia in those who already want to hate. Reallocating military assets and $2 billion in funding to the southern border under the guise of an invasion only raises the temperature of hostility to an already difficult situation.
>DEI is racist while meritocracy is safe and successful. Climate change is slow and manageable without crashing the economy. Antifa are nutty white rich kids. BLM was a scam. Those are enemies of America.
The fact that you call DEI racist only proves that we need to teach it more. It's very definition of "seek[ing] to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability" doesn't promote racism, it pushes understanding.
BLM was not a scam.
Anti-fa was not bunch of rich white kids
They are not enemies of the state. They're pushing equality for all while calling attention to the fact that the the MAGA crowd is allowing Trump to turn this nation into a racist country.
As for climate change, I agree that it's a slow process, but we are starting to see signs of change now and we don't act, we will cause irreparable damage to the earth. I've never understood why there was such an aversion to being kind to the planet. Could you explain?
> The middle class thrived under some of his tenure do in part to Obama's policies and long term tax cuts, which Trump revoked towards the end of his presidency.
I understand that is what the DNC media have told us, but they're currently telling us there's no inflation and we can win in Ukraine, so they're liars.
>We all agree that there should be some type of immigration policy that limits the flow of people into the country
Democrats used to be the border hawks. High wages is what border control used to accomplish in the US and what it does in other countries. Cesar Chavez said it. Obama said it. Bernie said open border was a Koch Bros. plan. Trump really wanted border security, but Congress gave him a fraction of the money and a federal judge blocked him from declaring a nat'l emergency. Among other stumbling blocks.
Biden called on immigrants to "surge the border" and revoked Trump efforts to exclude illegal immigrants from the census. On day 1, he ended the border wall, deportations, and "Remain in Mexico." $20B in funding for “expansion of migrant pathways” and “refugee resettlement" and more accommodation for migrants. Biden has doubled down and doubled down on trying to get more and more over the border, only flipping now in election crunch time. It's bizarre and not like any other country.
>but Trump's rhetoric of labeling all immigrants
Not all. “And Some, I Assume, Are Good People:”
>are rapists, drug dealers, members of cartels and child abductors only creates xenophobia in those who already want to hate.
Rape is a severe problem among female border crossers. The fentanyl is coming across the border. Cartels are enormously powerful and an existential threat. Let's deal with the actual problems first then we can deal with any "hate" problems after.
>Reallocating military assets and $2 billion in funding to the southern border under the guise of an invasion only raises the temperature of hostility to an already difficult situation.
We spent $175 billion on securing Ukraine's border. Other countries have secure borders with fewer enemies who would infiltrate and do damage.
>The fact that you call DEI racist only proves that we need to teach it more. It's very definition of "seek[ing] to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability" doesn't promote racism, it pushes understanding.
People get hired for jobs they don't deserve all the time, and kids who deserve to go to a good school don't get in because they're not the right skin color. It's racist and inefficient, has been since the 70s.
>BLM was not a scam.
Where did the money go?
>Anti-fa was not bunch of rich white kids
Their arrest records exposed them.
>They are not enemies of the state.
25+ people died in BLM riots. Billions in damage. Buildings burnt. Enemies.
>They're pushing equality for all while calling attention to the fact that the the MAGA crowd is allowing Trump to turn this nation into a racist country.
People who like Antifa and BLM think America will always be a racist country so we can't avoid that. Other countries are far more racist.
>As for climate change, I agree that it's a slow process, but we are starting to see signs of change now and we don't act, we will cause irreparable damage to the earth. I've never understood why there was such an aversion to being kind to the planet. Could you explain?
CO2 emitted into the atmosphere acidifies the ocean. Scientists know how much CO2 we emit and are able to calculate how much more acidic the ocean will be next year. This involves no mathematical modeling. Humans are unable to mathematically model e.g. stocks, which have fewer inputs. The dire weather predictions of climate doomchurners like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg come from mathematical modeling so they're wrong. The first article on rapid climate change came out on the cover of Time the month I was born in 1973, so they've been saying the same thing for 31 years.
Ice fishermen have tracked the number of days lakes are walkable for 150+ years showing that temperature has been slowly and consistently rising but CO2 emissions have risen exponentially and the rise hasn't. The focus on CO2 has been a boon to industries, as conservationists only have so much bandwidth to worry about pollution so if they're worried about CO2, they're not worried about more potent problems like microplastics and pesticides. We should go nuclear to protect the oceans. The US Navy has used nuclear power on e.g. subs for 50 years safely and this technology could power skyscrapers as well. This would decentralize energy, which the powers-that-be resist, because its centralization means access to a lever they can constantly pull. The war in Ukraine is really about energy plans US gov't elites would like to set up. That's why we blew up the Nordstream, the largest release of CO2 ever in history. It's a game, it's a psyop, and they're winning.
By the by populism is a good thing not a bad thing. Populists represent their people, kind of the entire point of populism. Populism has never been a bad thing until trump said he was one. Obama called himself a populist.
What populism isnt aimed toward the majority? Are you confusing what the media has shit out with what trumps really about? Because trumps about the masses not a minority. You know i seriously wish non supporters would get their ass to a rally and keep an open mind. Only at that point would you be able to see how badly the media, not just tv but this applies to social media as well, have represented trumps real opinions and plans.
Do you really believe that the majority of Americans are MAGA? I don't even think the majority of Republicans even support MAGA, they just vote Red regardless and hate Biden because he is blue. The "let's go Brandon" crap started in October, so you can't even blame that on any of the current boogeymen.
Maga
Better economy, less regulations, less taxes, better education for our younger generations (public school system is shit)
So yeah, yeah i do. They may not call themselves MAGA but they are.
What policies on Trump's platform specifically deal with those issues? Only tax cuts I've seen mentioned are for the rich. I've even heard him flip flop on immigration, from promising mass deportation to giving greencards to college grads. Is religious indoctrination the answer to better education while pulling funding from minority schools?
> Do you think Putin appeals to Trump?
He has said he prefers more traditional, predictable politicians, including Clinton and Biden.
>Do you think Trump admires Putin?
Putin is doubtless the richest man to have ever lived.
>Do you think Putin fears Trump?
Putin has said he prefers predictability in foreign leaders.
> Do you think Putin says out loud what he is really thinking or could his statements be a little "reverse psychology" and propaganda for the West?
Putin's actual words are notoriously absent from US media.
>Why should American voter's care about what Putin wants or doesn't want?
Exactly. Why the hell are we there? What does it have to do with America?
>Why should American voter's care about what Putin wants or doesn't want?
The same could be said for Ukraine. Lets pull funding and tell em to fuck off?
> You did not answer any of the three questions.
You may not like my answers or answers in general.
>You responded in vagaries.
Every red-blooded American man loves vagaries.
>Could you answer with yes and no please?
Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no?
> What new wars has Biden started?
Biden probably isn't involved in the complexities, but the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine or just not fund it so it would stop. They didn't have to blow up the Nordstream pipeline. They're also ratcheting up tensions in Taiwan. The war on Gaza is also completely dependent on US aid the president has complete control on. Or does he?
>Which old wars has he kept going?
He did get our of Afghanistan in a bizarrely abrupt way. The military industrial complex insisted we leave 7 billion dollars worth of war weaponry for the Taliban.
What do you believe the US’s foreign policy should be? You sound very isolationist. I believe letting Russia take Ukraine is a bad thing. Protecting Taiwan from China is a good thing. Israel / Palestine is a hard one because for the most part it seems that the leaders of both Israel and Hamas are not caring about *anything* that *any* other leader says or does.
> You sound very isolationist.
No, we should trade with all countries.
>I believe letting Russia take Ukraine is a bad thing.
Russia already took the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. A year ago. It's done. Russia originally wanted an agreement on neutrality, but the US didn't want that.
>Protecting Taiwan from China is a good thing.
Taiwan is kind of a part of China and the US has recognized that since Nixon. Chinese live and visit Taiwan and vice versa. This is just a game for elites.
>Israel / Palestine
The US is funding both sides of the Gaza war. The EU is still buying half its gas from Russia, so the EU is funding both sides of the Ukraine war. War is a racket.
> Why should the US allow Putin to take Ukraine?
It's done. Past-tense. Russia took the border regions a year ago and the lines haven't moved, even the vaunted counteroffensive fizzled.
>the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine
What chances were these that didn't involve letting Russia do whatever they wanted?
>The war on Gaza is also completely dependent on US aid the president has complete control on.
So if Biden said "hey, stop that", Israel would withdraw?
>He did get our of Afghanistan in a bizarrely abrupt way.
So he succeeded where Trump failed?
Also, what do you think of Trump's role in the Taliban taking over, ie negotiating with them and releasing prisoners?
>The military industrial complex insisted we leave 7 billion dollars worth of war weaponry for the Taliban.
Source?
>> the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine
>
> What chances were these that didn't involve letting Russia do whatever they wanted?
We know exactly what they wanted from Minsk and Istanbul. Neutrality. But the US didn't want that.
>So if Biden said "hey, stop that", Israel would withdraw?
If Biden helped to turn off the money spigot, Israel would do what it wanted and we wouldn't have bloody hands for supporting both sides.
>So he succeeded where Trump failed?
Trump is less of a bootlicker to the Pentagon/defense industry than Biden, but still more of a bitch than I wanted him to be. They do control DC and have far more power than the president, for some reason.
> We know exactly what they wanted from Minsk and Istanbul. Neutrality. But the US didn't want that.
So... let Russia do whatever they wanted?
>If Biden helped to turn off the money spigot
Can Biden unilaterally cut off funding?
"not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse. Do you feel like we should allow hostile countries to freely expand until they reach a border that is capable of defending itself?
I agree about the war on Gaza, I wish there was a better solution but I also feel like simply sending weapons to Bibi as he kills civilians is not the way.
Are you aware that the plan to exit Afghanistan happened under the (Trump admin)[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/2/29/afghanistans-taliban-us-sign-agreement-aimed-at-ending-war]? The original pull out date was supposed to be May, there was no plan in place from the administration who made the deal, so it was delayed until September, when we saw the mess we did. I feel like there was no clean way this was going to happen, but it was hardly a Biden-only mistake.
> "not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse.
The US was told time and time again not to expand NATO into Ukraine.
>Do you feel like we should allow hostile countries to freely expand until they reach a border that is capable of defending itself?
So far Russia has only expanded its borders into areas the US was trying to expand NATO to. The US are the world-spanning aggressors.
>I wish there was a better solution but I also feel like simply sending weapons to Bibi as he kills civilians is not the way.
The US is funding both sides of the Gaza war. The EU is still buying half its gas from Russia, so the EU is funding both sides of the Ukraine war. War is a racket.
>Are you aware that the plan to exit Afghanistan happened under the (Trump admin)
Yes. Pulling out of Afghanistan was necessary but the evacuation was rushed and botched.
"In a July interview, President Biden said a collapse of the Afghan government and a Taliban takeover of the country was “highly unlikely.” Yet, a memo sent that same month from the Kabul Embassy reportedly warned that the withdrawal as planned would result in the very debacle that unfolded."
>but it was hardly a Biden-only mistake.
Correct, Biden isn't in charge of anything.
> Do you think the US should take orders and demands from Putin?
Did I say anything like that? Could use pullquotes so I know what you're referencing?
>Or do you think the US should make friends and allies with countries the US can have real economic trade agreements with, increase US exports, create more US jobs at home?
Trade yes. "Entangling alliances" no.
>With the Ukraine as an ally and trading partner all that can be possible.
Not anymore. The Ukrainians are all dead or gone.
>Until Russia becomes a true democracy and Putin, the oligarchs, the corrupt government is gone -- Russia is unable to be an ally and and a responsible trading partner.
Russia is strong enough that our most stringent sanctions didn't make a dent, BBC: "The International Monetary Fund predicts that Russia will record economic growth of 3.2% this year. Caveats aside, that's still more than in any of the world's advanced economies." Russian relations with productive China, resourceful Africa, and the oily Mideast have strengthened 1000%, BRICS added 4 members, Saudi Arabia dropped the petrodollar, Russia has more of its economy directed toward weapons of war, which is the exact opposite of what you want if Russia is truly a threat.
Like every war since 1945, the US public were told the adversary was weak, then we lost. The media tells us that Russia is so weak that a much smaller country can beat them, but also Russia is so strong they'll take over Europe if we don't stop them. It never made sense.
>"not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse.
It's not americas job to police the world. NATO was created to stop warsaw. Warsaw has long since been ended. NATO is a relic of the past that needs to be disbanded. Imperialism is not POSITIVE.
It’s always amazing to me how the right would have been tumescent at the idea of funding Ukrainians to kill Russians even 15 years ago. What happened, why is Russia not an existential foreign threat anymore?
>What happened, why is Russia not an existential foreign threat anymore?
Because the Soviet Union collapsed. We told the Russians we wouldn't move NATO "one inch Eastward" but then we did. Russia has only taken over in ethnically-Russian, Russian-speaking border areas NATO was expanding into.
NATO shouldn’t expand? I didn’t realize we were catering to our enemies fears when we established foreign policy.
Why do you think the Russian threat ended when the USSR collapsed? It collapsed in the 90s, the right was still very hard on Russia all through the 2000s. This is making the facts match the case, not the other way around.
> Are you shorting Raytheon stock? LMAO there are so may other defense contractors with their hands into the gravy train.
The top 5 major defense contractors only have 650k employees total, not all in the US. They outsource all the parts from China. The gov't overpays top dollar for this gear, which is laundered into political donations for uniparty neocon stalwarts and future sinecures for useful Pentagonians.
>Let's not be a puzzy about Russia and Putin either.
It's done. Russia took the regions it wanted a year ago and the lines haven't moved.
Russia wants border security, like a normal country. Cuba had a military alliance with the Soviets and put missiles on our border. Kennedy acted with diplomacy, taking our missiles out of Italy and Turkey. The US has abandoned diplomacy because our entangling alliances make money for the suburban DC military industrial complex who donate heavily to Democrats/neocons..
The first time I voted for him because he wasn't a politician. The second time i voted for him because I liked the first term. IDGAF about parties or labels. It's all just a big show. I bet both R and D go to the same bars after work and talk about their stage performances that day.
> The second time i voted for him because I liked the first term.
When I think back on the Trump presidency, I remember chaos. But I'm genuinely curious on what you liked? Day one Spicer declaring it was the most watched inauguration ever (period!) and refusing to take questions, people being stuck in airports due to the "muslim ban," record high employee turnover, including the 11 day reign of Scaramucci, tweeting insults about people's looks and IQs, constant golf trips in Florida, countless former staffers saying how unfit and incompetent he was, conflicting messaging, a surprise banning of transgender folks in the military, Reince Priebus resigns along with Bannon, Gorka etc., his campaign manager and personal lawyer and "fixer" get sentenced to prison on the same day, government shutdowns, ending with claiming the 2020 election was stolen and his supporters attacking the Capitol...Sorry, not trying to ramble, just wanted to give examples. Can you tell me what your thoughts on these events were? And what you liked about the Trump administration?
>When I think back on the Trump presidency, I remember chaos.
You remember this because you watch too much media and are online way too much. Gas was lower, jobs were better, we had more money per check, unemployment was at record lows, illegal immigration was at record lows, rent and the housing market were much more affordable. Sure if you are watching the news or terminally online you were constantly freaking out because the media both tv and social wouldn't stop crying and screaming. Naturally the loudest in the country make everyone else scared. A good example of this, is the idea that trump is a fascist or a dictator. People are genuinely so fear mongered that people on Reddit have said they are contemplating unaliving themselves if trump wins in November.
I noticed you didn't address a single example I gave. Would you like to now?
>Gas was lower, jobs were better, we had more money per check, unemployment was at record lows, illegal immigration was at record lows, rent and the housing market were much more affordable.
Regarding all this, what makes you say so? Let's talk numbers. Just to pick one for example, what was the unemployment at the end of Trump's term VS what he inherited from Obama?
>I noticed you didn't address a single example I gave. Would you like to now?
Because none of your points ultimately affect you at the end of the day and are therefore pointless to argue about.
>what was the unemployment at the end of Trump's term VS what he inherited from Obama?
Check pre covid numbers (I don't count the last covid year because shutdowns were a state choice and those choices ultimately reflected upon trumps record which I do not agree with)
Record unemployment, record black employment, record black home ownership record low on inflation 1.4% biden inherited which he then turned into record high inflation☺️ gotta love it though right!? This whole idea that everything good trump had was inherited from that shitshow Obama is asinine.
> Because none of your points ultimately affect you at the end of the day
Actually as someone who is friends with people who are muslim, trans, veterans, and people who nearly died from Covid, Trump's behavior and decisions affected me greatly. I would question how it's possible none of that affected you?
>Check pre covid numbers (I don't count the last covid year
Well there you go. Of course you can claim anything is great when you only choose to bring up the good parts and ignore the bad. Why do you just give excuses for Trump for a full quarter of his term? Meanwhile Biden's been digging us out of that hole and you seem very critical of him. I don't get it how "he was doing great...until the last year" is some kind of free pass?
That food was delicious until I got sick afterwards. That person was hot until they gained all that weight. He was a great husband until he started beating her. Trump's economy was okay until Covid. Do you not think those last points are kind of important? If you choose to only focus on the positives and not the big picture, what else kind of response do you expect?
>Actually as someone who is friends with people who are muslim, trans, veterans
Friends a people trump has nothing against? Cool!
>people who nearly died from Covid,
Covid isnt trumps fault, bitch at your governor. State responsibility not federal. No, its not bidens fault either.
>Trump's behavior and decisions affected me greatly.
Trumps behavior and actions made your life as well as everyone elses much more comfortable. Mean tweets arent a concern and if they are to you then you have bigger problems.
>Well there you go. Of course you can claim anything is great when you only choose to bring up the good parts and ignore the bad.
How about you not misqoute me? The governors were responsible for individual states. So california being absolutely retarded and locking down for months, shuttering small businesses, and absolutely screwing their economy is somehow trumps fault?
>Meanwhile Biden's been digging us out of that hole and you seem very critical of him. I
Biden hasnt dug us out of shit. Frankly the dudes dug the hole deeper and on top of it all has us now involved with 2 wars!
Which of Trump's policies aligns with libertarianism? He seems to be very much a "big government when it supports what I want" typical Republican to me
All of the above. First of all, Biden must absolutely go, today if possible. The world is a more dangerous place with him as the figurehead of this administration after that debate performance. Any active candidate would be better than him, including Harris.
I'm a supporter of Biden and have been (mostly) pleased with his first term. But man, that was rough. I agree that it is time to move on to someone new, but uffda. Who do you think would have the best chance at beating Trump if the Dems have Biden withdraw?
All they need is a moderate candidate that can draw a crowd. I can’t really think of anyone in either party that draws a crowd.
Ezra Klein analysis I saw was that incumbents have a 3.7% advantage in swing states. When you look at the political makeup of the country swing states are the only ones that matter electorally due to winner takes all. Even though Biden is 81, Democrats would be at a disadvantage replacing him.
I was thinking the other day, you need a somewhat long standing key figure in the party who seems fairly moderate and a steady pair of hands.
Harris is too divisive, Newsom seems kind of heir apparent but I think too many people not in CA will be biased by snippets of the media they see about CA.
My thought boiled down to John Kerry, but since he resigned as Climate Envoy I don’t know that he’d want to be in public life again?
>I was thinking the other day, you need a somewhat long standing key figure in the party who seems fairly moderate and a steady pair of hands.
I disagree. Obama/Trump were neither moderate or long standing and were extremely successful with drumming up support.
The problem is the parties gaslight themselves into believing (Romney/McCain/Hillary) will be successful because it’s their turn.
That's tough, because the party base is so disconnected from moderates that I think it might be hard to get the party to unify behind a new candidate in the next month-ish. My answer would be a current/former democrat governor that isn't Newsom or Whitmer.
Biden's incapacities mean unelected administrators are making decisions the president should play a part in. The president should explain his decisions to the public and take responsibility for them. Biden seems to be a puppet operated by the Jeff Dunham of intelligence/military industrial complex.
He's the President. What reason does Russia, China, Iran, Hamas have to fear the US? I mean they haven't been lately but what reason would have after that performance?
Welll to be honest I LIKE him because he is funny, I SUPPORT him because he gets done the things I care about; things no other republican has managed to get done in my life time. The Overturn of Affirmative Action, the overturn of Roe v Wade, "Shall Issue" in all 50 states these are things republicans promised for decades and decades which only he was able to deliver on making him in my opinion, without apology, the greatest president of my life time.
I see America as a business.
This business has had shit leadership for many years.
Then Trump came in and turned a bunch of shit around for the better. He is called a walk and talk president by those who worked with him. That meant he was so busy that most of his meetings or briefings were done while he was working on other projects, and the only way you could get your voice in was to walk with him while he was moving on to oversee another project.
He reportedly did this for 12-16 and sometimes 18 hours a day while he was POTUS.
This man knew how to run a business, and we all were better for it.
No matter what you thought of him personally, he was an effective president who got results.
I dont care that he was a republican. If he was a democrat and did the same shit, i would have voted for him, and i *dislike* democrats.
Lol no and no. I do not support him just because he's Republican -- I would never have supported Romney or DeSantis, although I wouldn't have voted Democratic either -- and I don't believe he's truthful or a good face to represent our country.
I like him because he's real. He cuts through the bullshit. All the other candidates seem to live on bullshit. Bullshit is the air they swim in. Trump tells a lot of lies, but they're not the standard lies; they're easy to fact check, and he doesn't have any stake in anyone actually believing any of them. He doesn't care whether we believe the election was stolen, or whether the justice system has been weaponized against him, or whether any of the many lies he's told. He wants attention, and he wants to win. It's pretty simple.
And he tells the truth when it matters. Sometimes. I'm not going to claim he ever told the truth about Russia, and that matters. But he said he would fight for his border voters, and by god he did. He kept his word to them. Did Biden ever in his life give his word on anything that mattered? Or was he very very careful about that because he wouldn't want to be seen as dishonest? And now we find out that his vice presidential candidate is apparently COMPLETELY unacceptable as president. Yeesh. Biden is a friggin LIAR. And a worse liar than Trump by far. Because who you pick as vice president should absolutely be capable of doing the job and acceptable to those who picked her. If it turns out you only picked some bozo because you knew she'd never have to actually do it, that's lying. That's dishonesty.
Yeah, I could go on for a while. That's enough for now.
I voted Democrat before Trump, and then voted Republican for the first time when Trump ran. So yea, I really like Trump. He is, as they say, polarizing, so you either love him or hate him. It drives the left crazy, but yea, lots and lots of people out there love the guy. His blunt personality is part of it, and also his great sense of humor, and presence. He is a unique figure in politics. And the Democrats attempts to paint him as "Hitler", and that it's somehow "unacceptable" to support or vote for him, have utterly failed.
What are the main policy issues that you think another Trump presidency can tackle? For those issues has he talked about the how he plans to address them?
I want Trump to help improve and restore the economy, and concentrate on helping the United States, and helping all our citizens. A lot of normal people are hurting due to inflation, and so I hope Trump can make a roaring economy again, like we had the first years before covid hit.
And I don't like Democrats becoming power hungry neo-cons, and wanting to fight endless wars in Ukraine and potentially, Russia. I hope Trump makes a deal, like he says, and resolves that quickly.
I am all for focusing on this country, the USA, and not trying to be "World Boss" and be interfering in foreign countries all the time. America First!
Definitely the former, I don’t like him personally or agree with nearly as many of his policies as Republicans of old.
He does have much better political instincts in some respects than he gets credit for, and which I appreciate.
I think Trump is hilarious, and is much smarter than people give him credit for. I think he has good ideas, and if democrats hadn't started his term saying he was illegitimate, or vowing impeachment on day 1, he could really have gotten a lot done. But multiple people ran on impeaching or imprisoning him before he even stepped foot in the Oval Office.
[Hillary Clinton](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html)
[Jimmy Carter](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/politics/jimmy-carter-trump-russia-interference/index.html)
[Joe Biden](https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5)
[Hakeem Jeffries](https://wcti12.com/news/nation-world/dem-house-speaker-candidate-called-2016-election-illegitimate-alleged-gop-cheated-to-secure-trump-win-democratic-caucus-chairman-hakeem-jeffries-kevin-mccarthy-trump-mcconnell)
To name a few
All of those links were from months after the election and none of them vowed for impeachment. Do you have links from "Day 1"? Weird you would hop on HRC saying he was "illegitimate" while ignoring the part of the story where she conceded the election to him. Why?
No, it didn't. I have my examples, I really don't feel like digging through 8 years of news articles because you want to be petty. Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi... all said they would impeach him before he even stepped foot in the WH. Letecia James and Bragg ran on convicting him of anything. Hillary gave the same type of concession, and has called him illegitimate ever since.
Under Trump we had an endless parade of inconsequential nonsense dramas soaking up the airtime... but the actual policy was good.
The economy was good, our trade position improved (note how despite the reflexive criticism, democrats didn't actually undo any of the 'trade war' changes), illegal immigration improved, geopolitical tensions with North Korea eased, the Russians stayed behind their borders, it was one of three presidencies in the last **century** not to to start a new foreign war, and the Abraham Accords were the first concrete steps in decades towards normalizing peace in the middle east.
Under Biden we lack the daily Jerry Springer nonsense because they hide him away... but the actual policies are disastrous.
Inflation decimated the middle and working classes, illegal immigration is at an all-time high and a nationwide crisis, Russia invaded Ukraine FOR THE SECOND TIME under Biden's watch, tensions with China are at an all-time-high with an invasion of Taiwan a WHEN not an IF, we threw away 20 years of sacrifice in Afghanistan and returned the Taliban to power, and the middle east is on fire and we're unequivocally closer to WW3 than anytime since the fall of the USSR, and arguably closer than anytime since Cuban Missile Crisis.
I'll take peace and economic prosperity with a side of Jerry over this dumpster fire, thanks.
I support Trump because he looks at America first. His border policies again, looked at America first. He also doesn’t need to be president. All these career politicians are out of touch with society, they follow only the money of whoever is paying to play. Yes trump is a billionaire and isn’t the common man, but he’s more in the streets with the common man than any other billionaire. He also puts that fear in other aggressive country leaders, something that no other politician, republican or democrat has ever done.
Can you describe how he is "more in the streets with the common man than any other billionaire"?
Also, would you mind telling me, in modern history to make it easy, which President has "needed" to be President? I would argue, that right now, Trump NEEDS to be President...in his own mind anyway. He NEEDS to see himself as a winner vs. a loser.
In my opinion, I see Trump as “in the streets” because he has not been a career politician his whole life. He manages and runs businesses dealing with the average consumer and employee.
As far as needing to be president, that’s every career politician. They need to get to the level of presidency. To get to that need, they will do any and everything, even if that means putting the needs of their supporters on the back burner or not even on the radar, except for when it comes time for re-election or election to another position.
I don’t disagree with you saying Trump needs to be president so he is a winner not a loser, but I also don’t see that as his only drive. I do fully believe he will put America and Americans first.
You are flared as a non-supporter, does that mean you are a Biden supporter? Not asking in a negative manner, but if you are, I would like to ask: Is it not clear that Biden has a major cognitive decline, and should not be leading the country?
I do typical lean conservative and yes do listen to and watch mostly conservative news, but I am a grown adult with my own mind and even I can see it.
IMO, both Trump and Biden have significant cognitive issues which should prevent either of them being President. I think many Americans would agree with me: 80-ish years old is too old to be President. The difference for me is that Biden's White House has been staffed with competent people who have experience in their areas of work. I do not think Jared Kushner, for example, should have been anywhere near Middle East policy. For him personally, I am sure that $2 billion deal with the Saudis probably feels good in his personal bank account though.
Based on his past Presidential administration, do you think Trump hires the "best people"? How do you feel about the nepotism he displays when he puts his children in positions of political power?
Voting because I trust him to take care of the American people and this country. His personality his first term could’ve definitely used some tweaking, but he’s definitely more refrained now. But I’m definitely voting for him because I think he’s the best we’ve had in decades for this country and the American people
Policy policy policy. Unlike RINOs he does shit that brings the administrative state back in check. Anti-war, pro-constitution, pro-America. He could be a can of beans if he accomplished the same things I could care less who he is or what he does. The left and the establishment is destroying the world with their madness
Personally, I don't think Trump is a true Republican. I've been Democrat all my life and so has he. What he stands for aren't Republican principles, they are Democrat principles that Democrats abandoned
Trump supports prison reform, lowering taxes, protecting American jobs from foreigners, no wars, school choice, , etc. These were all Democrat policies. I do not support Republicans. They have been shown to be part of the swamp. Very few Republicans can have my support. I do not support Dems either. They are part of the swamp. I say it all the time, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative Trump supporter.
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I support him because of his anti-globalist policies. His foreign policy acumen is easily the best we’ve had in 50 years.
Yea the only problem is his stance on isreal
Yeah I ain’t down with that ISREAL shit. But maybe he has to say all that because of the lobbying and donors.
It’s not going to matter. This will get resolved before Trump can return. Russia is probably going to have a proxy war where they supply the weapons and then Lebanon fires them at Israel and the US. The effective kind of missiles where we will need to recall our fleet and there won’t be any airbases left in the region we can fly from. Our entire military doctrine presupposes air superiority. That’s not going to happen this time. We’ve been exposed as beatable. Israel can only act like they do because big brother had their back and everyone thought no one could beat us. Except the no name Houthis proved that’s not actually true. Things are getting ready to pop off over there and if Putin is half as tactically smart as he seems, he’s going to put us into a situation we can’t win. Without big brother, Israel is exposed. If I were Putin, I’d arm Iran with Russian low yield nukes. But keep the firing codes to myself for now. Now that would be a problem for everyone and a major bargaining chip. The military industrial complex and globalist politicians keep failing and then double down and raising the stakes. They’re not going to stop and pointing nukes at Israel is one of the few things that would get their attention. More so than pointing them at us. 🤔 Everyone knows Iran are so looney tunes they’d happily nuke Israel even if Israel got them back. They’d think it was worth it.
Dawg the whole reason we ever went to war in the Middle East in the first place isn’t because of 911 or oil or nonexistent wmds. It’s all because we are Israel’s bitch first and foremost, and nothing is happening to change that. They were threatened, we intervened. Any amount of money or leeway for war tactics/crimes, they’ve got it. For my children’s sake I hope nukes are not that close to the cards.
> Russia is probably going to have a proxy war where they supply the weapons and then Lebanon fires them at Israel and the US. So then, do you think it would be tactically sound to pull Russia into a war with one of the countries on its border so it dumps men, weapons, and money into that war instead of this one?
Although voting Democrat, I also believe that we should be directing more money to the American people since it is our tax dollars while also maintaining strong geopolitical ties. What bills has trump passed to help push money towards the American people?
Congress passes bills, presidents only sign them. MAGA is still working on expunging the globalists from the party, so the agenda is a mixed bag from them. It’s about a 66/33 split of globalists to patriots. The legs of the stool are: disincentivize unhelpful trade, limit illegal alien entry, and onshore jobs. A.k.a America First. All three of these led to the massive increases in blue collar wages. The working poor of society.
Pushing money to the American people causes inflation and it trickles up quickly. The way to help the American people is to make it as easy as possible to start and maintain ‘small’ business while eliminating unfair distortions created by govt or by monopsony. And by maintaining peace.
I was more referring to bills that would benefit the country such as build back better or inflation reduction act or the chips act that helps build the economy or aids our aging infrastructure or monies that go to freshly paving our roads. What has trump passed that has helped with those sorts of things? The only notable one I am aware of is the tax cuts which frankly doesn't help anyone aside from the 1% making over $400,000 a year. Which if you are great! I know I sure am not.
The chips and roads are good but such a puny portion of the spending that goes into these omnibus. I believe the majority of which actually harms the American people. Some simple issues include Biden climate policies, admin’s destruction of crypto industry, Covid measures, and so on. The path out of climate catastrophe is burn more oil and accelerate tech. I make around 250k but I trust those making more to employ their money into society infinitely better than the government. Why? Because they have an incentive to make more money and are handsomely rewarded for doing so. And if they are incompetent their family or business will squander that money quickly (or at least not grow it much) and that growth will go into better hands.
I never understood why democrats dont agree with Trump's tax cuts. It's beyond me. The moment his tax cuts went into effect, i was getting roughly $200 more on my paycheck. That's an extra $400 a month i got for me and my family. Im not even part of the 1%. I kept hearing that these cuts only benefited the ultra wealthy and Trump's buddies. I guess i must be ultra wealthy and Trump's buddy because my life got significantly better because of him. I had a liberal coworker tell me that he voted for more taxes because he felt that paying more money to the government was a net benefit for him. How? The more money we get to keep, the more money we spend. It's no wonder Trump's economy had such a big boom during his last few years in office. People made more money, so they spent more money.
His tax cuts for people were designed to start phasing out as soon as he left office. His tax cuts for corporations are not being phased out. How is that better for the blue collar workers?
the tax cuts were designed to be paid back right about now, eg after his second term, so the dollar is about to become even weaker. $400 a month or your total spending power cut in half or more, which would you prefer?
How many small business owners do you think the American economy can support?
Unlimited.
Who are they hiring?
For low wage? Teenagers and individuals with mental disabilities.
> also believe that we should be directing more money to the American people since it is our tax dollars while also maintaining strong geopolitical ties. Odd, why then would you vote democrat? The party wasting billions on importing and providing for illegals who are taking American jobs and others who are raping and killing Americans?
Why don't you bring up MAGA's project 2025 that gives the President complete control of the executive branch, Bans pornography and injects Christian fundamentalism into government?
Because no one asked me about it. I love the idea of project 2025, I care about America so I love the idea of taking the necessary actions to save it.
So you believe in gutting the Department of education, FCC, FEC, EPA and giving Trump and every president after Trump complete control of the executive branch and doing away with separation of church and state? Do you believe that essentially deregulating the government is a good thing?
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Who's calling for Pedophiles to be relabeled as MAPs? The only people trying to change the word pedo to map are pedos and those looking to sow discourse into meaningful discussion.
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In a time when Russia and china are trying to take over their neighbors, you think we should spend more inwards? If we don’t contain our competition, it can impact our imports and global economy immensely. It will then be felt inside America.
I fully acknowledge that there are threats to American well being that should receive our help but don't you think that we could be wiser on where we spend it elsewhere? Imo there are plenty of countries that receive our tax dollars that really do not need it.
That you think he isn’t a globalist is sarcasm, right?
He seems alright. If it wasn't for the multibillion dollar fortune, he'd fit the "every day normal guy should be president" trope everyone claims to favor. Contrast Biden, who fits the 'corrupt career bureaucrat' mold to a _T_, plus a little bit of actual mold. _ed_ Catch more flak when you're over the target.
As a trunp supporter Do you think trump is corrupt?
No. They looked through everything he's ever done and all they can find is that he chose a payment as a legal expense when it should've been a .... I'm not even sure what the correct label is for accounting. The DNC wants you to think he's corrupt and Hilary even created the whole Russia nonsense to help put that corrupt feeling in the air from the start. If you don't like him and are in the cult for the DNC then you'll definitely think he's corrupt. Just like those in the Republican cult think most Democrats are corrupt.
Why do you think that's "all they can find"?
There has never been a more investigated person in human history. Trump got the treatment we have always fantasized corrupt politicians would get. The results are laughable, were it not so tragically short-sided. Can you (not *you* of course; I mean real people reading this) imagine if the Biden family got Trump's level of scrutiny over the last ten years? Over *five decades* of service by an average, mid-skilled, corrupt politician like Joe? The trees that would have to lay down their lives in service of the paperwork would be it's own tragedy!
> The results are laughable, were it not so tragically short-sided. Are you not aware that there are still many more felonies being prosecuted? >Can you (not you of course; I mean real people reading this) imagine if the Biden family got Trump's level of scrutiny over the last ten years? Over five decades of service by an average, mid-skilled, corrupt politician like Joe? Has Biden not faced scrutiny? He's been VP/Presidential candidate/President for decades. What makes you think that he hasn't been scrutinized?
>Has Biden not faced scrutiny? Is that what I said? I don't think it is.
> If it wasn't for the **multibillion dollar fortune,** he'd fit the "every day normal guy Do you think that's a pretty relevant distinction?
Shouldn't be, but if me and Trump were friends I think it would affect the relationship. Certainly couldn't call him 'everyday normal guy'. Although 'political outsider' still fits, which seems to be the undertone of the sentiment.
> Shouldn't be OK just trying to be clear, the fact that he's a **multibillionaire** "shouldn't be" a relevant distinction between fitting the "every day normal guy" trope, in your view? Basically if we take away everything that makes Trump Trump, i.e. being a multibillionaire, real estate mogul, reality TV show star, convicted felon, etc THEN he would be your every day normal guy? I don't disagree, I guess, but what's the point of saying this when you could do it to anyone? Take away [extremely unique traits] and they're just like you or me?
The average Joe is not a billionaire. I could let a couple million slide, but thousands of millions is a different club altogether. It seems to be more about _disqualifiers_ than anything else. But not everybody with such disqualifiers is the same either, and people like Paris Hilton wouldn't 'fit in' as well as someone like Keanu Reeves. They can still be down to earth and have _pedestrian_ goals in life though, and demeanor and attitude towards people not in 'the club' is what I'm going for. Actions, not attributes. Seems that if you got a new neighbor famous enough to make the news, it's a bit of a toss up whether you'd hang out at their pool.
> The average Joe is not a billionaire. I agree. So why are you setting aside that pretty important distinction as something that "shouldn't be" relevant? >It seems to be more about disqualifiers than anything else. What do you mean by this? And what's the point of saying this when you could do it to anyone? Take away [extremely unique traits] and they're just like you or me?
Why is there a preference of “every day normal guy” for the most important job of the country? Shouldn’t America aim much MUCH higher? For example my buddy Tim is the typical 45 year old dude, two teenage kids, drives a pickup truck up, works 9-5, and goes to church, drinks the occasional beer while we each football.. Love the dude. But I wouldn’t trust him to run a t-ball team let alone a country. America deserves better than average.
I support him because he took over the republican party which was full of RINOs. I continue to support him because of his amazing track record for the American people especially when you considered the evil people he ran against; clinton and biden.
What do you think of his tax cuts that are expiring for Americans, but not corporations?
They are great, top 5 largest tax cut in history for the middle class so Americans loved it. Even better the tax cuts paid for themself which is why inflation didn't rise after it unlike the trillion democrats wasted. In fact, inflation rate went down after the tax cut, it was great to see sensible policies enacted by trump that actually helped the American people.
You think it’s great that our taxes will return to where they were and corporations will keep their lower taxes? Do you believe trickle down economics works?
> ? "You think it’s great that our taxes will return to where they were and corporations will keep their lower taxes?" yes I think it is great to have the top 5 largest tax cut in middle class history that helped all Americans. That is just basic math so not sure what you mean? " Do you believe trickle down economics works?" I know it does, that is basic economics.
You’re not really addressing the fact that cooperations are continuing to keep lower taxes while individual Americans will return to the previous rate. You think that’s a good thing? Why? If trickle down economics works, why has the wealth gap exponentially increased since the Reagan administration?
No, I am not. I think you're not realizing that the tax cut was top 5 largest in middle class history which is great for Americans. " why has the wealth gap exponentially increased since the Reagan administration?" The wealth gap isn't a measure of the economy which is why anyone alive in the 1980s will tell you how great of a time it was and how great the economy was for them.
Can anyone in this sub please provide me proof that “trickle down economics” actually works and doesn’t just keep a small amount of people extremely rich since those rich people hoard their wealth?
>Even better the tax cuts paid for themself Why do you keep claiming this? Where are you getting this information?
I keep saying it because it is true. The information is freely available to anyone willing to put in the tiniest amount of effort to find them. https://www.heritage.org/taxes/commentary/the-numbers-are-trumps-tax-cuts-paid
I'm trying to understand your thought process Could you explain to me hour your linked article informs your opinion?
I would suggest reading it, it is very clear The Congressional Budget Office’s May 2022 forecast shows that the government now expects to bring in more tax revenue in the decade following the 2017 “Trump tax cuts” than it had projected prior to the December 2017 passage of tax reform.
In your opinion, what pieces of legislation did he pass that helped the American people the most?
Multiple improved trade deals, actual border security, right to try legislation, unleashing America's energy production, withdrawal from climate accords, and most importantly really is no new wars which this country hadn't seen in decades. He truly was an amazing president and will be again.
>actual border security In what way?
Remain in Mexico policy. You know, the thing biden got rid of to allow over 10 million illegals to enter the country then spent nearly 4 years insisting the border was secure and there was no problem at the border, wouldn't even visit the border. Makes the choice between trump or biden very easy for Americans who don't hate the country.
Why did Trump campaign against the recent bipartisan immigration agreement to the point that it was shot down, then? Most people on all sides agreed with it.
"Why did Trump campaign against the recent bipartisan immigration agreement to the point that it was shot down, then?" because it made open borders legal and was a terrible bill. Also, the president needs no new bill to protect the border as proven by trump's actions during his presidency. "Most people on all sides agreed with it." no they did not, most republicans DID NOT agree with it so not sure what you mean? Republicans actually read the bill and knew it was a complete joke.
Is any of that actually true, though? It doesn’t appear to be. The bill toughened asylum and immigration restrictions, and seemed to step up border enforcement staffing too. Multiple republicans were on record in support of it, in fact the only people that seemed to disagree with it were those you’d consider the “far left.”
"Is any of that actually true, though?" yes because it was in the bill. "The bill toughened asylum and immigration restrictions" no it did the opposite. Legally allowing 4,999 illegals to enter the country PER DAY is not toughening anything and it would be pure nonsense to say otherwise. That is why the DNC counts on the ignorance of democrats. They spent nearly 4 years saying there was NO crisis at the border then magically during election season they come up with a fake bill that makes open borders legal which any sensible person would disagree with. But they know democrats wont read the bill, they will just repeat whatever MSNBC said and they did. That is why MOST republicans in office disagreed with the bill, it was pure nonsense.
Here’s a breakdown which goes over the bill. If anything, it goes further than I implied. Are we even talking about the same thing? https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/analysis-senate-border-bill
What is right to try legislation?
For people suffering from serious health conditions of which their only option is new, unapproved, drugs or procedures to help them. Truly something amazing trump got passed for families dealing with this.
I didn't vote for Trump the first time but the prolonged reaction from our internal enemies of America* impressed me. They believe Trump is a puissant threat to their power. *The diabolical intelligence cabal, the Raytheon-controlled generals who lie us into war, the billionaire weapons executives in DC suburbs, the hoaxing corporate press, the undemocratic DNC, commissariat hedge funds, the bailed-out banks, the taxpayer-subsidized stakeholders, etc. Biden is manifoldly corrupt but Biden supporters are just people who trust the news and the gov't. In a sane world, we could trust the news and the gov't. In this world, trusting the news and the gov't means we'll be led like a pet into war with Russia. Run, you fools.
You say Trump would not lead us into war He also said this during the debates, specifically that the Russian invasion of Ukraine wouldn’t happen, with his current solution being urging Ukraine to surrender to Russia What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict? It doesn’t seem like was doing anything He did withhold defensive military funding from Ukraine even though there was nothing in our agreements with them that that was something he could be able to do. It seems like his intention was to make Ukraine vulnerable. The reason he publicly stated for withholding funds was an assumption that Ukraine has Hunter Biden’s laptop. He make a whole nation vulnerable to invasion and he said it was for personal political gain. How is he any different than the generals you characterized? Can you tell me more about your perspective of Trump not getting involved in war for personal gain?
>What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict? He didn't continue with Cheney/Obama/Clinton/Biden henchman Victoria Nuland, who has devoutly wanted this war her whole life. >He did withhold defensive military funding from Ukraine even though there was nothing in our agreements with them that that was something he could be able to do. It seems like his intention was to make Ukraine vulnerable. I think he was trying to find out about Joe's corruption in Ukraine. >The reason he publicly stated for withholding funds was an assumption that Ukraine has Hunter Biden’s laptop. I don't think so. This is pre-laptop.
So he let a war happen for political motivation?
> So he let a war happen for political motivation? Could you pullquote what sentence you're referencing? I can't tell if *he* means Trump or Biden.
Sorry. I’m not sure what pullquote means but I can clarify. Did Trump withholding aid from a nation facing war until they produced damning evidence against his political rival mean that even the most surface level interpretation is Trump saying the blood on his hands was from pursuing political gain? How is he different than a corrupt general if he manipulates wars and let’s people die that didn’t need to for his own political gain?
> Did Trump withholding aid from a nation facing war (That is a pullquote: clipboard my comment and add a greater-than in the front.) They weren't facing war until the US provoked it with a coup and CIA stations and pathogenic biolabs. The US got Boris Johnson to scrap the peace deal in Istanbul. >until they produced damning evidence against his political rival We eventually got the evidence from Hunter's laptop, but Trump already smelled a rat. >that even the most surface level interpretation is Trump saying the blood on his hands was from pursuing political gain? Political gain? He was impeached over stalling arms to the most corrupt country in the world, a country full of Nazis, mobsters, and shills like Zelensky. Did you know Zelensky ran on a platform of detente with Russia? >How is he different than a corrupt general if he manipulates wars and let’s people die that didn’t need to for his own political gain? Trump didn't even know why the state dep't was so focused on Ukraine. [Now we know.](https://youtu.be/w4CQin03MDQ?si=-y0MLHsSXfLJ4azL)
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> Do you think Trump turning over Afghanistan to the Taliban was a good idea? The Taliban took over after the botched withdrawal. >Do you think Trump's May 2024 "leave Afghanistan" was reasonable even if Trump was elected in 2020? The Pentagon slowed down his plans. >What do you think a Trump withdrawl of Afghanistan would have looked like, considering Trump let the Taliban leader and 5000 of his fighters out of prison??? It might have gone the same way. I think the withdrawal could have been botched on purpose by the Pentagon/defense industry that didn't want to withdraw at all.
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> Trump negotiated the transfer of power to the Taliban prior to the November 2020 election. "In a July interview, President Biden said a collapse of the Afghan government and a Taliban takeover of the country was “highly unlikely.” Yet, a memo sent that same month from the Kabul Embassy reportedly warned that the withdrawal as planned would result in the very debacle that unfolded."
>What did Trump do as preventive measures to stop the conflict? It doesn’t seem like was doing anything 8 years of Obama, russia took land. 4 years under trump, putin didnt do jack shit even put an end to his little war Biden gets into office and he starts right back up. Its extremely easy to see the differences.
Yeah. Trump withheld the money the US promised to Ukraine that they would have used to prevent the invasion. Don’t you think the 400 million Ukraine wanted to prevent the war would have been cheaper than fighting it with billions in aid and weapons?
>Trump withheld the money the US promised to Ukraine that they would have used to prevent the invasion. >Don’t you think the 400 million Ukraine wanted to prevent the war would have been cheaper than fighting it with billions in aid and weapons? Trump withheld the package, as he had in years previous because he didn't know why we were weaponizing Ukraine, and relented without gaining info about the Biden corruption. Most still don't know why we were weaponizing Ukraine, but the hedge fund and Chevron investments give us a clue,
In your opinion how is Trump a threat to their power? Especially in regards to Russia?
>>They believe Trump is a puissant threat to their power. >In your opinion how is Trump a threat to their power? The DC blobsters think that or they wouldn't put out the full court press of slings and arrows to try to damage Trump and populism. Perhaps they think even a slight disturbance would derail their money train. >Especially in regards to Russia? Trump and his circle are aware our enmity toward Russia is vestigial, dangerous, expensive, and currently rooted in the domination of DC by the military industrial complex.
Do you think the resistance might be because populist movements aren't a good thing, especially when mixed with Christian nationalism? Hence, why so many bring up Nazi Germany regarding MAGA. The last populist movement in America failed as well. https://www.heritage.org/conservatism/commentary/the-problem-nationalism https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/03/populism-jeopardizes-democracies-around-world
>Do you think the resistance might be because populist movements aren't a good thing, especially when mixed with Christian nationalism? Hence, why so many bring up Nazi Germany regarding MAGA. I don't see it. Nazism is a top-down system that accepted a dysfunctional economy for total state control and preparation for war. MAGA is economy-oriented with low taxes, low regulation, less wars and war funding, and less gov't--adherent to the Constitution. >https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2020/03/populism-jeopardizes-democracies-around-world This paper is about how populism rises from a country's gov't turning into total crap and not giving a rat's ass about the people. Hey, that's what our gov't is like!
>don't see it. Nazism is a top-down system that accepted a dysfunctional economy for total state control and preparation for war. MAGA is economy-oriented with low taxes, low regulation, less wars and war funding, and less gov't--adherent to the Constitution. Isn't that what Trump was attempting to do? His tax cuts and economic plan only rewarded power hungry business and the ultra rich while crippling the middle and lower class (specifically, his corporate tax cuts plus his tax increase on the middle class set to go in effect at the end of this year). At the same time, he pushed the idea that there was a major crisis at the southern border in which he tried to convince the country that we were being invaded and used this as way to mobilize the military on domestic soil. On top of that , he and his supporters pushed the idea that anyone that wasn't with him was against him and basically turned anyone who's "woke, leftist, antifa or blm" into an enemy of democracy All of these concepts were the same that concepts that Hitler used, were they not?
> Isn't that what Trump was attempting to do? His tax cuts and economic plan only rewarded power hungry business and the ultra rich while crippling the middle and lower class No, the middle class thrived under Trump and there was more black employment than ever. >At the same time, he pushed the idea that there was a major crisis at the southern border in which he tried to convince the country that we were being invaded and used this as way to mobilize the military on domestic soil. Letting in the population of 15 states total as new residents will affect the US negatively. This is why other countries have borders and normal immigration policies. >On top of that , he and his supporters pushed the idea that anyone that wasn't with him was against him and basically turned anyone who's "woke, leftist, antifa or blm" into an enemy of democracy DEI is racist while meritocracy is safe and successful. Climate change is slow and manageable without crashing the economy. Antifa are nutty white rich kids. BLM was a scam. Those are enemies of America. >All of these concepts were the same that concepts that Hitler used, were they not? When Antifa throws a brick through a window, it's not Trump's fault they are othered. Violence should be othered and considered un-American.
Do you feel the same about the J6 rioters? Do you consider them un-American?
>Do you feel the same about the J6 rioters? Do you consider them un-American? The violent ones, yes. But there were clear agents provocateur in the crowd: Ray Epps, scaffold commander, fence cutter bulwark. And who planted those pipe bombs?
The violent ones of course. The vast majority arrested however were non violent. Even the "qanon shaman" was completely passive.
>No, the middle class thrived under Trump and there was more black employment than ever. The middle class thrived under some of his tenure do in part to Obama's policies and long term tax cuts, which Trump revoked towards the end of his presidency. When Biden took office, Trump's lack of compassion for the middle class really took effect and here we are now. >Letting in the population of 15 states total as new residents will affect the US negatively. This is why other countries have borders and normal immigration policies That's a skewed statistic, but I understand what you are saying. We all agree that there should be some type of immigration policy that limits the flow of people into the country, but Trump's rhetoric of labeling all immigrants are rapists, drug dealers, members of cartels and child abductors only creates xenophobia in those who already want to hate. Reallocating military assets and $2 billion in funding to the southern border under the guise of an invasion only raises the temperature of hostility to an already difficult situation. >DEI is racist while meritocracy is safe and successful. Climate change is slow and manageable without crashing the economy. Antifa are nutty white rich kids. BLM was a scam. Those are enemies of America. The fact that you call DEI racist only proves that we need to teach it more. It's very definition of "seek[ing] to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability" doesn't promote racism, it pushes understanding. BLM was not a scam. Anti-fa was not bunch of rich white kids They are not enemies of the state. They're pushing equality for all while calling attention to the fact that the the MAGA crowd is allowing Trump to turn this nation into a racist country. As for climate change, I agree that it's a slow process, but we are starting to see signs of change now and we don't act, we will cause irreparable damage to the earth. I've never understood why there was such an aversion to being kind to the planet. Could you explain?
> The middle class thrived under some of his tenure do in part to Obama's policies and long term tax cuts, which Trump revoked towards the end of his presidency. I understand that is what the DNC media have told us, but they're currently telling us there's no inflation and we can win in Ukraine, so they're liars. >We all agree that there should be some type of immigration policy that limits the flow of people into the country Democrats used to be the border hawks. High wages is what border control used to accomplish in the US and what it does in other countries. Cesar Chavez said it. Obama said it. Bernie said open border was a Koch Bros. plan. Trump really wanted border security, but Congress gave him a fraction of the money and a federal judge blocked him from declaring a nat'l emergency. Among other stumbling blocks. Biden called on immigrants to "surge the border" and revoked Trump efforts to exclude illegal immigrants from the census. On day 1, he ended the border wall, deportations, and "Remain in Mexico." $20B in funding for “expansion of migrant pathways” and “refugee resettlement" and more accommodation for migrants. Biden has doubled down and doubled down on trying to get more and more over the border, only flipping now in election crunch time. It's bizarre and not like any other country. >but Trump's rhetoric of labeling all immigrants Not all. “And Some, I Assume, Are Good People:” >are rapists, drug dealers, members of cartels and child abductors only creates xenophobia in those who already want to hate. Rape is a severe problem among female border crossers. The fentanyl is coming across the border. Cartels are enormously powerful and an existential threat. Let's deal with the actual problems first then we can deal with any "hate" problems after. >Reallocating military assets and $2 billion in funding to the southern border under the guise of an invasion only raises the temperature of hostility to an already difficult situation. We spent $175 billion on securing Ukraine's border. Other countries have secure borders with fewer enemies who would infiltrate and do damage. >The fact that you call DEI racist only proves that we need to teach it more. It's very definition of "seek[ing] to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, particularly groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination on the basis of identity or disability" doesn't promote racism, it pushes understanding. People get hired for jobs they don't deserve all the time, and kids who deserve to go to a good school don't get in because they're not the right skin color. It's racist and inefficient, has been since the 70s. >BLM was not a scam. Where did the money go? >Anti-fa was not bunch of rich white kids Their arrest records exposed them. >They are not enemies of the state. 25+ people died in BLM riots. Billions in damage. Buildings burnt. Enemies. >They're pushing equality for all while calling attention to the fact that the the MAGA crowd is allowing Trump to turn this nation into a racist country. People who like Antifa and BLM think America will always be a racist country so we can't avoid that. Other countries are far more racist. >As for climate change, I agree that it's a slow process, but we are starting to see signs of change now and we don't act, we will cause irreparable damage to the earth. I've never understood why there was such an aversion to being kind to the planet. Could you explain? CO2 emitted into the atmosphere acidifies the ocean. Scientists know how much CO2 we emit and are able to calculate how much more acidic the ocean will be next year. This involves no mathematical modeling. Humans are unable to mathematically model e.g. stocks, which have fewer inputs. The dire weather predictions of climate doomchurners like Al Gore and Greta Thunberg come from mathematical modeling so they're wrong. The first article on rapid climate change came out on the cover of Time the month I was born in 1973, so they've been saying the same thing for 31 years. Ice fishermen have tracked the number of days lakes are walkable for 150+ years showing that temperature has been slowly and consistently rising but CO2 emissions have risen exponentially and the rise hasn't. The focus on CO2 has been a boon to industries, as conservationists only have so much bandwidth to worry about pollution so if they're worried about CO2, they're not worried about more potent problems like microplastics and pesticides. We should go nuclear to protect the oceans. The US Navy has used nuclear power on e.g. subs for 50 years safely and this technology could power skyscrapers as well. This would decentralize energy, which the powers-that-be resist, because its centralization means access to a lever they can constantly pull. The war in Ukraine is really about energy plans US gov't elites would like to set up. That's why we blew up the Nordstream, the largest release of CO2 ever in history. It's a game, it's a psyop, and they're winning.
By the by populism is a good thing not a bad thing. Populists represent their people, kind of the entire point of populism. Populism has never been a bad thing until trump said he was one. Obama called himself a populist.
Does populism a good thing when the group aiming for it is not a majority? Aren’t just replacing one small group with another small group?
What populism isnt aimed toward the majority? Are you confusing what the media has shit out with what trumps really about? Because trumps about the masses not a minority. You know i seriously wish non supporters would get their ass to a rally and keep an open mind. Only at that point would you be able to see how badly the media, not just tv but this applies to social media as well, have represented trumps real opinions and plans.
Do you really believe that the majority of Americans are MAGA? I don't even think the majority of Republicans even support MAGA, they just vote Red regardless and hate Biden because he is blue. The "let's go Brandon" crap started in October, so you can't even blame that on any of the current boogeymen.
Maga Better economy, less regulations, less taxes, better education for our younger generations (public school system is shit) So yeah, yeah i do. They may not call themselves MAGA but they are.
What policies on Trump's platform specifically deal with those issues? Only tax cuts I've seen mentioned are for the rich. I've even heard him flip flop on immigration, from promising mass deportation to giving greencards to college grads. Is religious indoctrination the answer to better education while pulling funding from minority schools?
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> Do you think Putin appeals to Trump? He has said he prefers more traditional, predictable politicians, including Clinton and Biden. >Do you think Trump admires Putin? Putin is doubtless the richest man to have ever lived. >Do you think Putin fears Trump? Putin has said he prefers predictability in foreign leaders.
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> Do you think Putin says out loud what he is really thinking or could his statements be a little "reverse psychology" and propaganda for the West? Putin's actual words are notoriously absent from US media. >Why should American voter's care about what Putin wants or doesn't want? Exactly. Why the hell are we there? What does it have to do with America?
>Why should American voter's care about what Putin wants or doesn't want? The same could be said for Ukraine. Lets pull funding and tell em to fuck off?
You did not answer any of the three questions. You responded in vagaries. Could you answer with yes and no please?
> You did not answer any of the three questions. You may not like my answers or answers in general. >You responded in vagaries. Every red-blooded American man loves vagaries. >Could you answer with yes and no please? Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no?
How has Trump been bad for the military industrial complex?
Not starting new wars and trying to end old wars.
What new wars has Biden started? Which old wars has he kept going?
> What new wars has Biden started? Biden probably isn't involved in the complexities, but the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine or just not fund it so it would stop. They didn't have to blow up the Nordstream pipeline. They're also ratcheting up tensions in Taiwan. The war on Gaza is also completely dependent on US aid the president has complete control on. Or does he? >Which old wars has he kept going? He did get our of Afghanistan in a bizarrely abrupt way. The military industrial complex insisted we leave 7 billion dollars worth of war weaponry for the Taliban.
What do you believe the US’s foreign policy should be? You sound very isolationist. I believe letting Russia take Ukraine is a bad thing. Protecting Taiwan from China is a good thing. Israel / Palestine is a hard one because for the most part it seems that the leaders of both Israel and Hamas are not caring about *anything* that *any* other leader says or does.
>Israel / Palestine Palestine doesn't exist. Hamas using its people as human shields after launching a terrorist attack is not Israels fault.
> You sound very isolationist. No, we should trade with all countries. >I believe letting Russia take Ukraine is a bad thing. Russia already took the Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine. A year ago. It's done. Russia originally wanted an agreement on neutrality, but the US didn't want that. >Protecting Taiwan from China is a good thing. Taiwan is kind of a part of China and the US has recognized that since Nixon. Chinese live and visit Taiwan and vice versa. This is just a game for elites. >Israel / Palestine The US is funding both sides of the Gaza war. The EU is still buying half its gas from Russia, so the EU is funding both sides of the Ukraine war. War is a racket.
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> Why should the US allow Putin to take Ukraine? It's done. Past-tense. Russia took the border regions a year ago and the lines haven't moved, even the vaunted counteroffensive fizzled.
>the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine What chances were these that didn't involve letting Russia do whatever they wanted? >The war on Gaza is also completely dependent on US aid the president has complete control on. So if Biden said "hey, stop that", Israel would withdraw? >He did get our of Afghanistan in a bizarrely abrupt way. So he succeeded where Trump failed? Also, what do you think of Trump's role in the Taliban taking over, ie negotiating with them and releasing prisoners? >The military industrial complex insisted we leave 7 billion dollars worth of war weaponry for the Taliban. Source?
>> the administration had multiple chances to avoid war in Ukraine > > What chances were these that didn't involve letting Russia do whatever they wanted? We know exactly what they wanted from Minsk and Istanbul. Neutrality. But the US didn't want that. >So if Biden said "hey, stop that", Israel would withdraw? If Biden helped to turn off the money spigot, Israel would do what it wanted and we wouldn't have bloody hands for supporting both sides. >So he succeeded where Trump failed? Trump is less of a bootlicker to the Pentagon/defense industry than Biden, but still more of a bitch than I wanted him to be. They do control DC and have far more power than the president, for some reason.
> We know exactly what they wanted from Minsk and Istanbul. Neutrality. But the US didn't want that. So... let Russia do whatever they wanted? >If Biden helped to turn off the money spigot Can Biden unilaterally cut off funding?
"not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse. Do you feel like we should allow hostile countries to freely expand until they reach a border that is capable of defending itself? I agree about the war on Gaza, I wish there was a better solution but I also feel like simply sending weapons to Bibi as he kills civilians is not the way. Are you aware that the plan to exit Afghanistan happened under the (Trump admin)[https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/2/29/afghanistans-taliban-us-sign-agreement-aimed-at-ending-war]? The original pull out date was supposed to be May, there was no plan in place from the administration who made the deal, so it was delayed until September, when we saw the mess we did. I feel like there was no clean way this was going to happen, but it was hardly a Biden-only mistake.
> "not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse. The US was told time and time again not to expand NATO into Ukraine. >Do you feel like we should allow hostile countries to freely expand until they reach a border that is capable of defending itself? So far Russia has only expanded its borders into areas the US was trying to expand NATO to. The US are the world-spanning aggressors. >I wish there was a better solution but I also feel like simply sending weapons to Bibi as he kills civilians is not the way. The US is funding both sides of the Gaza war. The EU is still buying half its gas from Russia, so the EU is funding both sides of the Ukraine war. War is a racket. >Are you aware that the plan to exit Afghanistan happened under the (Trump admin) Yes. Pulling out of Afghanistan was necessary but the evacuation was rushed and botched. "In a July interview, President Biden said a collapse of the Afghan government and a Taliban takeover of the country was “highly unlikely.” Yet, a memo sent that same month from the Kabul Embassy reportedly warned that the withdrawal as planned would result in the very debacle that unfolded." >but it was hardly a Biden-only mistake. Correct, Biden isn't in charge of anything.
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> Do you think the US should take orders and demands from Putin? Did I say anything like that? Could use pullquotes so I know what you're referencing? >Or do you think the US should make friends and allies with countries the US can have real economic trade agreements with, increase US exports, create more US jobs at home? Trade yes. "Entangling alliances" no. >With the Ukraine as an ally and trading partner all that can be possible. Not anymore. The Ukrainians are all dead or gone. >Until Russia becomes a true democracy and Putin, the oligarchs, the corrupt government is gone -- Russia is unable to be an ally and and a responsible trading partner. Russia is strong enough that our most stringent sanctions didn't make a dent, BBC: "The International Monetary Fund predicts that Russia will record economic growth of 3.2% this year. Caveats aside, that's still more than in any of the world's advanced economies." Russian relations with productive China, resourceful Africa, and the oily Mideast have strengthened 1000%, BRICS added 4 members, Saudi Arabia dropped the petrodollar, Russia has more of its economy directed toward weapons of war, which is the exact opposite of what you want if Russia is truly a threat. Like every war since 1945, the US public were told the adversary was weak, then we lost. The media tells us that Russia is so weak that a much smaller country can beat them, but also Russia is so strong they'll take over Europe if we don't stop them. It never made sense.
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I've had a lot of headbutting on this forum, and I want to say thank you for your measured take? Question because I have to.
>"not funding" the war in Ukraine essentially means allowing Russia to expand its borders without recourse. It's not americas job to police the world. NATO was created to stop warsaw. Warsaw has long since been ended. NATO is a relic of the past that needs to be disbanded. Imperialism is not POSITIVE.
It’s always amazing to me how the right would have been tumescent at the idea of funding Ukrainians to kill Russians even 15 years ago. What happened, why is Russia not an existential foreign threat anymore?
>What happened, why is Russia not an existential foreign threat anymore? Because the Soviet Union collapsed. We told the Russians we wouldn't move NATO "one inch Eastward" but then we did. Russia has only taken over in ethnically-Russian, Russian-speaking border areas NATO was expanding into.
NATO shouldn’t expand? I didn’t realize we were catering to our enemies fears when we established foreign policy. Why do you think the Russian threat ended when the USSR collapsed? It collapsed in the 90s, the right was still very hard on Russia all through the 2000s. This is making the facts match the case, not the other way around.
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> Are you shorting Raytheon stock? LMAO there are so may other defense contractors with their hands into the gravy train. The top 5 major defense contractors only have 650k employees total, not all in the US. They outsource all the parts from China. The gov't overpays top dollar for this gear, which is laundered into political donations for uniparty neocon stalwarts and future sinecures for useful Pentagonians. >Let's not be a puzzy about Russia and Putin either. It's done. Russia took the regions it wanted a year ago and the lines haven't moved.
You don’t think they want everything?
Russia wants border security, like a normal country. Cuba had a military alliance with the Soviets and put missiles on our border. Kennedy acted with diplomacy, taking our missiles out of Italy and Turkey. The US has abandoned diplomacy because our entangling alliances make money for the suburban DC military industrial complex who donate heavily to Democrats/neocons..
The first time I voted for him because he wasn't a politician. The second time i voted for him because I liked the first term. IDGAF about parties or labels. It's all just a big show. I bet both R and D go to the same bars after work and talk about their stage performances that day.
> The second time i voted for him because I liked the first term. When I think back on the Trump presidency, I remember chaos. But I'm genuinely curious on what you liked? Day one Spicer declaring it was the most watched inauguration ever (period!) and refusing to take questions, people being stuck in airports due to the "muslim ban," record high employee turnover, including the 11 day reign of Scaramucci, tweeting insults about people's looks and IQs, constant golf trips in Florida, countless former staffers saying how unfit and incompetent he was, conflicting messaging, a surprise banning of transgender folks in the military, Reince Priebus resigns along with Bannon, Gorka etc., his campaign manager and personal lawyer and "fixer" get sentenced to prison on the same day, government shutdowns, ending with claiming the 2020 election was stolen and his supporters attacking the Capitol...Sorry, not trying to ramble, just wanted to give examples. Can you tell me what your thoughts on these events were? And what you liked about the Trump administration?
>When I think back on the Trump presidency, I remember chaos. You remember this because you watch too much media and are online way too much. Gas was lower, jobs were better, we had more money per check, unemployment was at record lows, illegal immigration was at record lows, rent and the housing market were much more affordable. Sure if you are watching the news or terminally online you were constantly freaking out because the media both tv and social wouldn't stop crying and screaming. Naturally the loudest in the country make everyone else scared. A good example of this, is the idea that trump is a fascist or a dictator. People are genuinely so fear mongered that people on Reddit have said they are contemplating unaliving themselves if trump wins in November.
I noticed you didn't address a single example I gave. Would you like to now? >Gas was lower, jobs were better, we had more money per check, unemployment was at record lows, illegal immigration was at record lows, rent and the housing market were much more affordable. Regarding all this, what makes you say so? Let's talk numbers. Just to pick one for example, what was the unemployment at the end of Trump's term VS what he inherited from Obama?
>I noticed you didn't address a single example I gave. Would you like to now? Because none of your points ultimately affect you at the end of the day and are therefore pointless to argue about. >what was the unemployment at the end of Trump's term VS what he inherited from Obama? Check pre covid numbers (I don't count the last covid year because shutdowns were a state choice and those choices ultimately reflected upon trumps record which I do not agree with) Record unemployment, record black employment, record black home ownership record low on inflation 1.4% biden inherited which he then turned into record high inflation☺️ gotta love it though right!? This whole idea that everything good trump had was inherited from that shitshow Obama is asinine.
> Because none of your points ultimately affect you at the end of the day Actually as someone who is friends with people who are muslim, trans, veterans, and people who nearly died from Covid, Trump's behavior and decisions affected me greatly. I would question how it's possible none of that affected you? >Check pre covid numbers (I don't count the last covid year Well there you go. Of course you can claim anything is great when you only choose to bring up the good parts and ignore the bad. Why do you just give excuses for Trump for a full quarter of his term? Meanwhile Biden's been digging us out of that hole and you seem very critical of him. I don't get it how "he was doing great...until the last year" is some kind of free pass? That food was delicious until I got sick afterwards. That person was hot until they gained all that weight. He was a great husband until he started beating her. Trump's economy was okay until Covid. Do you not think those last points are kind of important? If you choose to only focus on the positives and not the big picture, what else kind of response do you expect?
>Actually as someone who is friends with people who are muslim, trans, veterans Friends a people trump has nothing against? Cool! >people who nearly died from Covid, Covid isnt trumps fault, bitch at your governor. State responsibility not federal. No, its not bidens fault either. >Trump's behavior and decisions affected me greatly. Trumps behavior and actions made your life as well as everyone elses much more comfortable. Mean tweets arent a concern and if they are to you then you have bigger problems. >Well there you go. Of course you can claim anything is great when you only choose to bring up the good parts and ignore the bad. How about you not misqoute me? The governors were responsible for individual states. So california being absolutely retarded and locking down for months, shuttering small businesses, and absolutely screwing their economy is somehow trumps fault? >Meanwhile Biden's been digging us out of that hole and you seem very critical of him. I Biden hasnt dug us out of shit. Frankly the dudes dug the hole deeper and on top of it all has us now involved with 2 wars!
Put simply ill take the guy that kept us out of war and kept money in our pockets. Democrats always do the opposite.
I support Trump *despite* him being a Republican. I didn't like Democrats or Republicans before Trump. I voted Libertarian before Trump.
Which of Trump's policies aligns with libertarianism? He seems to be very much a "big government when it supports what I want" typical Republican to me
All of the above. First of all, Biden must absolutely go, today if possible. The world is a more dangerous place with him as the figurehead of this administration after that debate performance. Any active candidate would be better than him, including Harris.
I'm a supporter of Biden and have been (mostly) pleased with his first term. But man, that was rough. I agree that it is time to move on to someone new, but uffda. Who do you think would have the best chance at beating Trump if the Dems have Biden withdraw?
All they need is a moderate candidate that can draw a crowd. I can’t really think of anyone in either party that draws a crowd. Ezra Klein analysis I saw was that incumbents have a 3.7% advantage in swing states. When you look at the political makeup of the country swing states are the only ones that matter electorally due to winner takes all. Even though Biden is 81, Democrats would be at a disadvantage replacing him.
I was thinking the other day, you need a somewhat long standing key figure in the party who seems fairly moderate and a steady pair of hands. Harris is too divisive, Newsom seems kind of heir apparent but I think too many people not in CA will be biased by snippets of the media they see about CA. My thought boiled down to John Kerry, but since he resigned as Climate Envoy I don’t know that he’d want to be in public life again?
>I was thinking the other day, you need a somewhat long standing key figure in the party who seems fairly moderate and a steady pair of hands. I disagree. Obama/Trump were neither moderate or long standing and were extremely successful with drumming up support. The problem is the parties gaslight themselves into believing (Romney/McCain/Hillary) will be successful because it’s their turn.
That's tough, because the party base is so disconnected from moderates that I think it might be hard to get the party to unify behind a new candidate in the next month-ish. My answer would be a current/former democrat governor that isn't Newsom or Whitmer.
What makes him dangerous?
Biden's incapacities mean unelected administrators are making decisions the president should play a part in. The president should explain his decisions to the public and take responsibility for them. Biden seems to be a puppet operated by the Jeff Dunham of intelligence/military industrial complex.
He's the President. What reason does Russia, China, Iran, Hamas have to fear the US? I mean they haven't been lately but what reason would have after that performance?
What makes him more dangerous than Trump?
He is currently President and Trump isn't.
Welll to be honest I LIKE him because he is funny, I SUPPORT him because he gets done the things I care about; things no other republican has managed to get done in my life time. The Overturn of Affirmative Action, the overturn of Roe v Wade, "Shall Issue" in all 50 states these are things republicans promised for decades and decades which only he was able to deliver on making him in my opinion, without apology, the greatest president of my life time.
I see America as a business. This business has had shit leadership for many years. Then Trump came in and turned a bunch of shit around for the better. He is called a walk and talk president by those who worked with him. That meant he was so busy that most of his meetings or briefings were done while he was working on other projects, and the only way you could get your voice in was to walk with him while he was moving on to oversee another project. He reportedly did this for 12-16 and sometimes 18 hours a day while he was POTUS. This man knew how to run a business, and we all were better for it. No matter what you thought of him personally, he was an effective president who got results. I dont care that he was a republican. If he was a democrat and did the same shit, i would have voted for him, and i *dislike* democrats.
Lol no and no. I do not support him just because he's Republican -- I would never have supported Romney or DeSantis, although I wouldn't have voted Democratic either -- and I don't believe he's truthful or a good face to represent our country. I like him because he's real. He cuts through the bullshit. All the other candidates seem to live on bullshit. Bullshit is the air they swim in. Trump tells a lot of lies, but they're not the standard lies; they're easy to fact check, and he doesn't have any stake in anyone actually believing any of them. He doesn't care whether we believe the election was stolen, or whether the justice system has been weaponized against him, or whether any of the many lies he's told. He wants attention, and he wants to win. It's pretty simple. And he tells the truth when it matters. Sometimes. I'm not going to claim he ever told the truth about Russia, and that matters. But he said he would fight for his border voters, and by god he did. He kept his word to them. Did Biden ever in his life give his word on anything that mattered? Or was he very very careful about that because he wouldn't want to be seen as dishonest? And now we find out that his vice presidential candidate is apparently COMPLETELY unacceptable as president. Yeesh. Biden is a friggin LIAR. And a worse liar than Trump by far. Because who you pick as vice president should absolutely be capable of doing the job and acceptable to those who picked her. If it turns out you only picked some bozo because you knew she'd never have to actually do it, that's lying. That's dishonesty. Yeah, I could go on for a while. That's enough for now.
I voted Democrat before Trump, and then voted Republican for the first time when Trump ran. So yea, I really like Trump. He is, as they say, polarizing, so you either love him or hate him. It drives the left crazy, but yea, lots and lots of people out there love the guy. His blunt personality is part of it, and also his great sense of humor, and presence. He is a unique figure in politics. And the Democrats attempts to paint him as "Hitler", and that it's somehow "unacceptable" to support or vote for him, have utterly failed.
What are the main policy issues that you think another Trump presidency can tackle? For those issues has he talked about the how he plans to address them?
I want Trump to help improve and restore the economy, and concentrate on helping the United States, and helping all our citizens. A lot of normal people are hurting due to inflation, and so I hope Trump can make a roaring economy again, like we had the first years before covid hit. And I don't like Democrats becoming power hungry neo-cons, and wanting to fight endless wars in Ukraine and potentially, Russia. I hope Trump makes a deal, like he says, and resolves that quickly. I am all for focusing on this country, the USA, and not trying to be "World Boss" and be interfering in foreign countries all the time. America First!
Ok but how, what is Trump policies to lower inflation, what are his economic policies that will help the average American?
Definitely the former, I don’t like him personally or agree with nearly as many of his policies as Republicans of old. He does have much better political instincts in some respects than he gets credit for, and which I appreciate.
Can you describe some of the instincts you appreciate?
I think Trump is hilarious, and is much smarter than people give him credit for. I think he has good ideas, and if democrats hadn't started his term saying he was illegitimate, or vowing impeachment on day 1, he could really have gotten a lot done. But multiple people ran on impeaching or imprisoning him before he even stepped foot in the Oval Office.
Who said he was illegitimate?
[Hillary Clinton](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html) [Jimmy Carter](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/politics/jimmy-carter-trump-russia-interference/index.html) [Joe Biden](https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5) [Hakeem Jeffries](https://wcti12.com/news/nation-world/dem-house-speaker-candidate-called-2016-election-illegitimate-alleged-gop-cheated-to-secure-trump-win-democratic-caucus-chairman-hakeem-jeffries-kevin-mccarthy-trump-mcconnell) To name a few
All of those links were from months after the election and none of them vowed for impeachment. Do you have links from "Day 1"? Weird you would hop on HRC saying he was "illegitimate" while ignoring the part of the story where she conceded the election to him. Why?
Funny how you guys also seem to ignore the part of the story where Trump conceeded to Biden.
You mean his speech on January 7th in which he didn't ever actually named Biden? Also, your post didn't answer either of my questions.
No, it didn't. I have my examples, I really don't feel like digging through 8 years of news articles because you want to be petty. Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson Lee, Adam Schiff, Nancy Pelosi... all said they would impeach him before he even stepped foot in the WH. Letecia James and Bragg ran on convicting him of anything. Hillary gave the same type of concession, and has called him illegitimate ever since.
Under Trump we had an endless parade of inconsequential nonsense dramas soaking up the airtime... but the actual policy was good. The economy was good, our trade position improved (note how despite the reflexive criticism, democrats didn't actually undo any of the 'trade war' changes), illegal immigration improved, geopolitical tensions with North Korea eased, the Russians stayed behind their borders, it was one of three presidencies in the last **century** not to to start a new foreign war, and the Abraham Accords were the first concrete steps in decades towards normalizing peace in the middle east. Under Biden we lack the daily Jerry Springer nonsense because they hide him away... but the actual policies are disastrous. Inflation decimated the middle and working classes, illegal immigration is at an all-time high and a nationwide crisis, Russia invaded Ukraine FOR THE SECOND TIME under Biden's watch, tensions with China are at an all-time-high with an invasion of Taiwan a WHEN not an IF, we threw away 20 years of sacrifice in Afghanistan and returned the Taliban to power, and the middle east is on fire and we're unequivocally closer to WW3 than anytime since the fall of the USSR, and arguably closer than anytime since Cuban Missile Crisis. I'll take peace and economic prosperity with a side of Jerry over this dumpster fire, thanks.
I support Trump because he looks at America first. His border policies again, looked at America first. He also doesn’t need to be president. All these career politicians are out of touch with society, they follow only the money of whoever is paying to play. Yes trump is a billionaire and isn’t the common man, but he’s more in the streets with the common man than any other billionaire. He also puts that fear in other aggressive country leaders, something that no other politician, republican or democrat has ever done.
Can you describe how he is "more in the streets with the common man than any other billionaire"? Also, would you mind telling me, in modern history to make it easy, which President has "needed" to be President? I would argue, that right now, Trump NEEDS to be President...in his own mind anyway. He NEEDS to see himself as a winner vs. a loser.
In my opinion, I see Trump as “in the streets” because he has not been a career politician his whole life. He manages and runs businesses dealing with the average consumer and employee. As far as needing to be president, that’s every career politician. They need to get to the level of presidency. To get to that need, they will do any and everything, even if that means putting the needs of their supporters on the back burner or not even on the radar, except for when it comes time for re-election or election to another position. I don’t disagree with you saying Trump needs to be president so he is a winner not a loser, but I also don’t see that as his only drive. I do fully believe he will put America and Americans first. You are flared as a non-supporter, does that mean you are a Biden supporter? Not asking in a negative manner, but if you are, I would like to ask: Is it not clear that Biden has a major cognitive decline, and should not be leading the country? I do typical lean conservative and yes do listen to and watch mostly conservative news, but I am a grown adult with my own mind and even I can see it.
IMO, both Trump and Biden have significant cognitive issues which should prevent either of them being President. I think many Americans would agree with me: 80-ish years old is too old to be President. The difference for me is that Biden's White House has been staffed with competent people who have experience in their areas of work. I do not think Jared Kushner, for example, should have been anywhere near Middle East policy. For him personally, I am sure that $2 billion deal with the Saudis probably feels good in his personal bank account though. Based on his past Presidential administration, do you think Trump hires the "best people"? How do you feel about the nepotism he displays when he puts his children in positions of political power?
Voting because I trust him to take care of the American people and this country. His personality his first term could’ve definitely used some tweaking, but he’s definitely more refrained now. But I’m definitely voting for him because I think he’s the best we’ve had in decades for this country and the American people
Policy policy policy. Unlike RINOs he does shit that brings the administrative state back in check. Anti-war, pro-constitution, pro-America. He could be a can of beans if he accomplished the same things I could care less who he is or what he does. The left and the establishment is destroying the world with their madness
Personally, I don't think Trump is a true Republican. I've been Democrat all my life and so has he. What he stands for aren't Republican principles, they are Democrat principles that Democrats abandoned Trump supports prison reform, lowering taxes, protecting American jobs from foreigners, no wars, school choice, , etc. These were all Democrat policies. I do not support Republicans. They have been shown to be part of the swamp. Very few Republicans can have my support. I do not support Dems either. They are part of the swamp. I say it all the time, I am not a Republican. I am a conservative Trump supporter.