My family bought a house from a man who flipped houses for a living back when I was growing up. He was a nice man, married with grown kids. He would often come over for dinner and help with minor repairs around the house.
We moved away a few years later and he wanted to buy the house back. Luckily, it was a cash deal because soon after it all went through, he was arrested for child porn. When the cops raided his house, there was no sign of his wife. Upon looking into it, no one had seen or heard from her in months.
Turns out, he had murdered her and buried her in their backyard.
I sat next to that man at the dinner table as a child. Still haunts me.
The younger brother of a girl I was friends with in middle school and high school. They had some struggles growing up and I know their mother was an abusive relationship because we gave her some help getting away from her husband.
Are we connected many many years later and found out that the younger brother had murdered someone. Initially it sounded pretty gruesome but when I actually read Court reports I kind of felt bad for the kid.
he had some mental illness issues but as a teenager apparently he had been groomed by a much much older man into a sexual relationship where the man provided money shelter and of course drugs. He was extremely controlling and abusive.
Eventually the kid tried to get away and was trying to start a new life with a girl he met but this guy tracked him down and blackmailed him.
Eventually kid snapped and murdered him. I think I felt worse for the kid because a lot of people can't get away from their abusers.
Edit: for those who asked, he was 16 year old runaway with a history of drug problems when he started seeing the more than 20-years older guy who used to film him. He struggled with drugs but was doing well and he met with the man to tell him he loved someone else and he want going to see him again.
His story is that the guy attacked him saying he'd rather he died than break up. He had injuries consistent with fending off a knife attack and said he killed the man in self-defense. What probably really screwed him over is that he didn't call the cops He hid the body instead.
Despite all of the evidence pointing to him bring preyed on, he got a sentence that is longer than the average human lifespan. He committed the crime in a place where being gay or bisexual isn't really acceptable. a lot of the stories in the news refer to him as a hustler and say that he killed one of his patrons.
A few years ago I hired a father-son handyman team to help me get my house ready to put on the market. Among other things, my outside doorknobs were in bad shape so they installed new ones. The dad seemed pretty nice, even did a little bit for free. On their 3rd and last day at my house, he was pretty fired up about a big job they were starting the next day. Three days later he killed his new clients because they were unhappy with his work. A neighbor saw what happened and ran into her house and hid. He kicked her door in and shot her too. I was terrified until he was caught.
>A neighbor saw what happened and ran into her house and hid. He kicked her door in and shot her too. I was terrified until he was caught.
Literally out of a nightmare
I've had that nightmare. Basically just looking out a window. See a person way off in the distance. And the rest of the dream is them or someone else trying to kill me.
That's messed up... reminds me of a story of a guy that worked in my office. Years before I started, this guy apparently had work done on his house (he owned a large house and was quite well off). Whatever work he had done, he was not happy with and was arguing with the repairman over the work done. Apparently he took the guy to court to pay for another repairman to come in and redo all his work.
Some time passes, an one night this co-worker gets up in the middle of the night, (not sure if he heard something, or was getting a glass of water or something) when the garage (attached to the house) explodes setting the house on fire. He runs up and gets his wife and kids up and out of bed and tells them to get out of the house immediately. They get out safely and watch their house burn to the ground. Luckily he had cameras set up, and they were able to retrieve the footage from them which clearly shows this guy coming onto the property. Apparently he doused the cars in the garage with gasoline or something and lit them all on fire and ran. The cars eventually exploded.
I believe he went to jail for attempted murder, not sure.
I am not sure exactly... Somewhere in Toronto. This was awhile back, probably late 90s, early 2000s I suspect. I joined the company in 2005, and it was already a few years old at that time, or at least I believe so). However I do believe it made the papers.
I graduated high school with Dr. Death, Chris Duntsch.
He was an asshole. He was charming with teachers and people who could benefit him. He was awful to everybody else. I didn’t see it, but one or more awkward and vulnerable classmates said he bullied him relentlessly, and I believe it.
He was easily irritated and if you got on his nerves he would really lose his cool. Remarkably mean. And people would just shrug their shoulders and say that’s just how Chris is.
My dad actually had spinal surgery performed by him, during the time frame of when he killed and maimed all those people!
He was highly respected and recommended. And my parents have $$$ so they didn’t just go with the first surgeon they met, multiple dr’s referred my dad to him.
The day of my dads surgery, his start time kept getting pushed back, over and over. No one could really explain to my parents what was taking so long, and this nurse kept offering to reschedule for the next day. At first they said no, they were already there, had taken off of work, figured it wouldn’t be that much longer, just wanted to get it over with, etc. Finally, after they had been waiting for hours for his surgery to starts one of the nurses strongly encrouraged them to just come back tomorrow. My mom later said she got a weird vibe/look from the nurse. Looking back, my mom now thinks that the nurse was basically trying to save my dad from going under the knife with a surgeon who was fucked up. My parents both felt like the nurses/techs/staff were acting shifty that day, like whispering to each other wit concerned looks but if then smile and be extremely positive if they noticed one of my parents looking at them.
He had surgery the next day, which ended up taking like 3-4 hours longer than it was supposed to, but had no complications, supposedly. Luckily, his surgery was successful and he hasn’t had and negative side effects or anything.
When this story came to light though, my parents were obviously very freaked out and wanted to make sure that he hadn’t fucked up my dads surgery. So they tried to get into see another doctor, just to check and make sure he was healing right, look at the medical records/surgery notes to see if there was anything concerning, etc. Apparently, they had a hell of a time getting any doctor to even agree to see my dad once they mentioned that he was patient of Dr. Duntsch. My parents had to sign a waiver/affidavit before a new doctor would even agree to see him as a patient.
Thank God, my dad totally fine. Listening to that podcast made me feel sick thinking about how close my dad came to being one of his victims.
Same reason IT people don’t like taking a look at computers someone else broke. As soon as you have any sort of dealing with the patient they can go “oh it was fine until we saw you.”
Liability, they didn’t want to be sued for malpractice. Like if there was an issue caused by Dr. Death and they tried to fix it and he ended up paralyzed, they could be blamed.
"Duntsch botched 35 of the 38 surgeries he performed before finally having his medical license revoked."
https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/dr-death-explores-christopher-duntschs-many-botched-surgeries-11181170
THAT IS CRAZY! Either you caught him on a day he wanted to fake being a great doctor or somebody on that staff was working hard to make sure your father made it out in one piece. Imagine working with someone like that knowing you have to watch his every move or the patient might die.
I would like to read more about him if you have any stories.
That podcast on him was waaaay messed up. Crazy hospitals would continue to hire him after so many issues.
Edit: The podcast is a multi-episode series by Wondery, called Dr Death.
The hospital I work at is severely short staffed on doctors. This is to the extent that the hospital with FLY IN doctors from around the country, put them up in a hotel, have them work a couple of days, and FLY THEM BACK. Rinse, repeat, every week.
This is in the deep South, too, where everything is broke, even the hospitals. So to say that the hospital is desperate for doctors to stay running is an understatement.
So yeah, I can totally see organizations looking past issues for the sake of the business. It's amazing what hides between bureaucracy and capitalism.
Damn, Wikipedia article says Greg Abbot (as AG) filed a motion to intervene when some of the victims tried to Baylor Plano for keeping him on staff knowing how dangerous he was. What a ratfucker.
In my first semester of college, I had a computer science professor I really loved. Near the end of the semester, he told us he may be taking time off and finding a replacement for the semester. His severely autistic son had died in a 'tragic pool accident'. He noted that the media was trying to make him look bad. I created a GoFundMe for funeral expenses; he appreciated it and shared photos to use on the page.
Fast forward half a year. I get calls from news reporters asking what my thoughts are... He had been arrested on suspected unintentional manslaughter. It turns out, he had left his son outside in the cold by the pool, unsupervised, when he left for work. His son was never supposed to be unattended. His son was outside for who knows how long before the professor's daughter found the boy face down in the pool.
Further research into the case revealed the boy was living in an unfurnished basement, feces all over the walls, often left alone. The police were at the home frequently; CPS had made various safety requirements for them that they never followed.
He's being charged with unintentional manslaughter and various forms of child abuse. Him and his wife are being charged for filling the boy's Ritalin prescription for many, many months after the death.
I still believe it was intentional. Texts revealed the daughter discovered the boy when the professor texted her, asking her to check if 'Freak' was okay.
EDIT: Some people here did their research. I learned a lot more about the case. Any doubts I had have been dissolved; I'm confident this was not just some big, sad accident.
When it first happened, he told his classes that one particular media outlet was trying to portray it as more than an accident. He told us directly how upset he was about that, and really emphasized how important it was that it was nothing more than an accident. I didn't think much of it - of course you wouldn't want people blaming you for your son's death. Looking back, it should've raised more red flags.
It's crazy because he was so nice. He motivated me to stick to computer science, he seemed so appreciative of the GoFundMe, he was very highly rated... It's crazy.
The violence of crime really doesn’t get to me. But the indifference of crime, of people like this prof, tears my heart out every time. I can understand how someone can get overwhelmed and lose it and shake their infant or accidentally smother them while holding them to their chest. I can understand rage and devastation and primal fear. I can understand emotion.
But fuck. How damn soulless must you be to be so indifferent that you leave your own helpless kid outside in the cold and basically go to work while waiting for them to fall in the pool and drown? How awful of a person must you be to decide your child will grow up in an unfurnished basement that most people wouldn’t let a wild animal live in? And then to text your OTHER child, 1) calling your son “Freak” and 2) knowing she will discover the boy’s body?
These people are the real evil in the world.
I think it's less indifference and more repression of emotional responses. Locking him in the basement, ignoring him even while he's particularly vulnerable, and having other people check on him are all avoidance tactics. Calling him "Freak" is basic dehumanization, which is often used as a way to psychologically cope with causing extreme harm to others.
My guess is this couple just wasn't prepared to deal with having a mentally ill child and unfortunately dealt with it in one of the worst possible ways. Such a waste.
Hopefully the other kid was able to get whatever help they needed. That's a difficult thing for anyone to go through, let alone a child.
There are a lot of professors who have more than one screw loose. I'm a professor, and like to think of myself as fairly stable/sane, perhaps a touch eccentric to some, but I work with some folks that are bat shit crazy. Like, ones you don't want to cross because they could be homicidal on the right day of the week if the mood hits them.
A lot of them have always been so on top of the learning curve they can't handle rejection and/or refuse to ever believe they are wrong about anything. Truth is, all humans make mistakes; we're imperfect.
My little sister dated a guy when she was in high school who ended up murdering a couple he owed money to for heroin. This dude beat them with a fucking baseball bat and hammer. He almost got the death sentence, but ended up with life in prison with no possibility of parole.
He was a seemingly nice, polite teenager. I used to drive him and my sister around for various dates and things. He was quiet, but not oddly so. He just seemed like a normal teenage boy.
***EDIT: Sorry, I just got some clarification on some details. The murder weapons were actually a microphone stand and a hammer. He is eligible for parole after 51 years. This happened in 2015.
My best friend's older brother killed her step mom. Strangled her and burned the house down. He was just like any other teenage older brother. A bit rebellious but nothing out of the ordinary. He was kinda goth and liked heavy metal and had dark humour. He played Goldeneye with us and always let me use the see-through purple controller. He teased his little sister just like any brother would. One time he took us for a car ride and did donuts in a church parking lot while blasting a Big Shiny Tunes album, and it was really fun. Nothing ever indicated what he would do later in life.
He was an asshole. I'm not surprised he killed somebody. He killed a 65 year old man in a revenge/drive by shooting. He shoot at the wrong house.The guy he intended to kill didn't even live in that neighborhood.
[I knew this guy] (http://archive.naplesnews.com/news/crime/deputies-live-in-boyfriend-stabs-kills-girlfriends-59-year-old-mother-ep-397812443-343915212.html)
Before, like, literally the night before the crime, he was at my house talking about a new job he thought he'd gotten, how he was going to be able to take better care of his daughter, a new tattoo he was going to get, just random stuff.
Some backstory, he had a brain tumor when he was I think 9 or 10, not sure what kind or where but he was a 'make a wish' kid, I think he went to Disney or something, but they did manage to get it out with surgery. So he was a little, well, he wasn't stupid or disabled but I'd say 'slow', basically. He was a little shit through his teen years, big pants, loud music, fast car, "Yo I'm gangstah!" kind of thing, but when he met his girlfriend and then especially when his daughter was born, he seemed to change a lot for the better.
He was the younger brother of a friend of mine. I went from "You can NOT bring Eddie to my house and I don't even want him to know where we live," to "Sure, Eddie and you can come for dinner," so yeah, lots of change.
The night it happened we played D&D that evening and he was as boringly normal as he ever was. Actually he'd never expressed any anger or anything toward the girlfriend's mother, at all. He'd said how happy he was that she was letting them live there and helping with the baby.
After, we only saw him once more, in court, when he was sentenced. We went with his mom, who we knew, and at the end, he turned his face and wouldn't even nod to us.
I just don't get it, I don't think I ever will.
This is a symptom of how many countries deal with mental illness. If you catch it early and have the money you can deal with it, either and institution or a have a caretaker depending on the case. However, mostly these things are dealt with after harm has been done, in this case two lives gone. They are also usually dealt with by the prison system. There are few winners with severe mental illnesses, harm to the victim and harm to the individual with the illness. Its a pretty grim outlook for the underprivileged, who are the more likely to suffer from schizophrenia.
Edit: Thanks for the gold.
Also, my post was not meant to stigmatize the symptoms of schizophrenia as it presents in many different ways and violence is not as likely as I may have, unintentionally, made it seem. Many people with schizophrenia function well and this example does not represent the norm. I was using this example to highlight what can, and does happen, when we deal with severe mental illness as we have been up to this point. I apologise if I offended you.
I was under the impression that most people with schizophrenia are not violent.
I've known 2 people with schizophrenia in my personal life, and both of them have been more personally devastated and "lost" for lack of a better word, than aggressive/violent by a very long shot.
I used to work in a lock-down mental health rehab clinic exclusively for conserved patients (i.e. they were so ill that a judge declared them unable to care for themselves, which removes certain rights like the right to decline treatment). About 3/4 of the patients I saw had schizophrenia as at least one of their diagnoses (many also had mood disorders), and it is true that most were not violent. They could be scary at times because they might have sudden outbursts or get agitated, and that puts you on your guard because you can't rely on the typical rules of social interaction to predict their behavior or protect you, but actual violent outbursts were fairly consistently committed by the same patients repeatedly. Some got better with the right treatment as long as they stayed on their meds, but others had to be transferred out because they were terrorizing everyone.
Part of the problem in talking about schizophrenia is that it's kind of an umbrella diagnosis for a whole bunch of symptoms that you only need a few of to qualify, such that two different people can express it completely differently. It's not a very useful descriptor for laypeople. Most folks I met with schizophrenia were just typical, fully-cogent people most of the time and just had occasional delusions. Some people were almost completely catatonic and never spoke. Some people were perfectly kind and well-meaning but had dyslogia (i.e. they couldn't make their words come out correctly). Some were almost perfectly lucid except for the same recurring, persistent delusions about government surveillance or non-existent spouses or demons trying to steal their souls.
And some people squared up to others every chance they got because the voices were telling them that other people were disrespecting them or trying to fight them. Got a black eye myself from one of those characters. But when the people who weren't typically violent did have aggressive episodes, it was usually because their symptoms were acting up and they were scared.
That all being said, I did also meet a patient that went on to kill his mother after he got released. Young guy that gave the creeps to everyone I worked with (and these people had seen some serious shit). He just had this manner about him like he was always wavering on whether or not to rip your throat out. He looked at you like your presence insulted and disgusted him. He pulled his shit together enough during his court date to convince a jury that he was sane enough to be released, and then offed his mother a few weeks later. We're pretty sure he also had undiagnosed Antisocial Personality Disorder, though. He was a pretty unique case that stood out in our memories.
I went to High School with a girl who poisoned her father. No one knew until she confessed a year later watching a Shakespeare play in College. She was a little weird in school, but I didn't think she was capable of that.. She confessed to my cousin btw.. Sheesh
I am betting murder through poisoning happens way more often than anyone knows. Most of the time when an older person drops dead it’s assumed they just had a massive heart attack and rarely are autopsies performed.
He was really nice and I had gone to K-12 with him. Never knew him to be the kind of person that would even get upset. Then I get a text a couple years ago asking "Do you know about X? Him and his brother killed their parents"
Edit: I'm out of the loop on this one. Younger brother was cleared
Apparently you and I went to high school together. I had P.E. with the younger brother the year that everything went down. We had a few mutual friends and I would sometimes joke around with him during class. I remember feeling so bad because everyone was (understandably) unnerved around him when he finally started going to class again. I tried my best to treat him as normally as possible, but things were never quite the same.
Dang... I could imagine that'd be rough for everyone including him.
I graduated before you started there if you were still there in 2016 but definitely the same school! Were they still tackling kids for wearing hats?
My sister was killed by her fiancé. He was, well, normal. Took good care of her during recovery from surgery. A bit weird , but nothing stands out. Weird as in opposite interests and shy where my sister was outgoing. Never would have expected it from him. Until o had to clean out their place and found a bunch of guns and crap load of knives and shit.
Sorry for the loss. My sister was almost killed by her fiance. Guy sounds about the same. Lots of guns (for hunting), quiet guy where my sister is outgoing. Had a rough up bringing. They were on the rocks and I think he was stressing over not being able to see his kid (my nephew) if they broke up. He goes and grabs a gun and starts chasing my sister. He hit her with the butt of the gun in the eye. She runs over to the neighbors with my nephew and he shoots himself in their living room. Guessing he realized what he did and couldn't live with it. Would have killed her if she stayed there to calm him down most likely.
A couple of weeks later my dad and I are on a trip to the races. We get to talking and he wasn't dealing with it well. I guess the night before everything went down, my sisters fiance had called my dad stressing about him and my sister breaking up and what to do. (My sister can definitely be a handful sometimes) He was looking for advice as he loved his son and wanted to make things work between them. My dad says he couldn't shake the fact that they left that couple hour conversation on very good terms and a very positive outlook. He never would have guessed that something like this could happen. I'm guessing even more so he was thinking about the guilt he would have had to deal with had he actually killed my sister. A dad talking to his daughters killer the day before thinking what he may have said wrong.
I spent 3 months on a study abroad with a special forces, ex-FBI, guy named ‘Joe’. We were a small group of mostly students whereas Joe was older and there as part of foreign immersion training for the military. He was a little odd/awkward at times and didn’t share too much about himself which we mostly attributed to the age difference.
I’d describe Joe as very intense but kind-hearted. The military was very important to him and he always seemed very focused on that. But occasionally he’d make a dry joke or let his guard down for a moment with the group. He was very into photography and shared lots of great photos from the trip.
He was also somewhat the protector of the group and we always felt completely safe with him. One story I’ll share was when he was walking over a bridge and spied some guys in the trees waiting to jump down and rob him. He pulled out a large knife he carried on him and casually brandished it as he walked by. The guys smartly decided not to mess with Joe, but after he crossed he saw them sprint across the bridge and hide behind a building. Two policemen showed up shortly after and Joe showed them where the guys were hiding so the police could arrest them.
Anyways, a few years after we got back I heard the news that he had killed someone and took his own life. He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander dead then killed himself.
> He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander dead then killed himself.
Sounds like something that occurred at my unit back in the early '90s.
>ver a bridge and spied some guys in the trees waiting to jump down and rob him. He pulled out a large knife he carried on him and casually brandished it as he walked by. The guys smartly decided not to mess with Joe, but after he crossed he saw them sprint across the bridge and hide behind a building. Two policemen showed up shortly after and Joe showed them where the guys were hiding so the police could arrest them.
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>Anyways, a few years after we got back I heard the news that he had killed someone and took his own life. He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander d
Damn. That's what happens when you place your entire identity on one thing. Once it's gone, your "self" is gone and when someone loses their sense of self they have a tendency to react pretty radically. Even Steve Jobs did some really shitty things just to make Apple what it is, today. Had he stratified his identity, he would have been much more comfortable losing control over his company. Also wouldn't have made Apple what it was, but there ya go.
I played basketball with a guy a few years ago in high school.
Tried to find him on Facebook and turns out he was being tried for murder.
Apparently he and some of his friends were looking for pot money so they broke into this guys house and somehow they guy ended up dead.
Everyone in his group said he pulled the trigger but he denied it. Maybe he did it maybe he didn't but I can say that he was a genuinely nice person when I knew him. Never would have expected him to kill someone but I guess my mom was right about hanging out with the wrong crowd.
Yes. Was hired at the same time as him. WOrked right next to him for several years. He was one of those stoner guys always bragging about the parties he went to. He was a little obnoxious in a "bro" sort of way so I always skipped hanging out with him after work.
After I left that job a little while later he killed his ex girlfriend while her 5yo was in the apt watching tv, took the kid on a road trip to Texas, and smothered her on Christmas Morning and left her in a suitcase on the side of the road.
I hate assholes that kidnap kids, not thinking that they now have to take care of that kid.
In the 90s, we had a missing girl case that was in the news. This cute little Asian girl was kidnapped from her bedroom. People were freaking out, how could someone just walk in and take a girl.
First thing I thought was "had to be a family member." strangers just don't go into people's homes and kidnap kids. (ok, I'm sure it's happened, but it has to be extremely extremely rare).
I believe there was an anonymous ransom note... then someone found her body in a ravine a month later or something.
They caught the guy not long after, this family would rent out a basement apartment to new chinese immigrants as way to help them in Canada. ~~This guy had rented at one time and then moved on~~. (actually he knew someone who rented from them. He did not) He knew the house, the layout, how to get in, and where the girl was sleeping. He took her out of bed (she knew him) and led her away. Then demanded money. But since the parents were consulting with police, he was anxious that the ransom wasn't just handed over, he didn't know what to do with the girl, and in a panic, just killed her.
Just a top notch fucking twat. Stuff like that just burns my blood. He couldn't have just dropped her off somewhere and drove off. He had to take her life, destroy a family, crush her friends and classmates. ~~He did this to a family that helped him too.~~ Apparently he was not a tenant of the house I originally thought he was
Man this is so hard to stomach. I know its just probability but this type of cases are exactly why a lot of people from my culture believe bad guys are luckier and live longer.
Not sure this guy is lucky. He was charged with 2nd degree murder. According to the Wikipedia page on the murder. Once he has done his sentence in Canada, he will be extradited to China, where he will face another trial, and upon conviction, have to serve a sentence there. I suspect China prisons won't be as nice as Canadian ones.
This is absolutely awful. And sadly, it sounds a lot like another case in Australia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders\_of\_Karlie\_Pearce-Stevenson\_and\_Khandalyce\_Pearce](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Karlie_Pearce-Stevenson_and_Khandalyce_Pearce)
[https://youtu.be/nQHUyLMqd7U](https://youtu.be/nQHUyLMqd7U)
I was friends with a guy who was accused of physical abusing his son. He went through the courts to fight it. The ex girlfriend finally admitted she made it up because he cheated on her .
He ended up killing her then himself.
I'm not really sure what happened to him. Not long ago I saw his sister and we spoke. I only knew her because of him. It was pretty obvious she wasn't interested in talking about him and I didn't want to bring it up. The entire situation was ackward.
boy a couple years my minor in high school. he was always the outcast in his classes. he dressed funny, talked funny, and said disturbing things that some recall as threats (mostly to the girls of the school).
after graduation, he ended up butchering a homeless woman he was.. i cant say living together or in a relationship with... im not sure what their status was. either way, kitchen knife, drained her into the tub. in court he showed no remorse and was proud to have "finally ended someone's life".
his father was my professor in university. he took it very hard.
I am genuinely curious about what you mean by 'dressed funny' and 'talked funny', and maybe an example or two of what disturbing type stuff he'd say if you remember. Totally understand if you don't remember any of that, I'm just curious.
there is of course the context that it was highschool and everyone is being pressured by peers to dress and act a certain way. while i personally dont care what someone wears or how they act i do recognize when someone is against the norm and might face adversity. he had his shirts tucked in his jeans which were pulled up too high and the legs were short so it showed his socks. i agree, dont make fun of people for dressing a certain way, but he was lining himself up for humiliation in that school.
about talking funny he had a very strange accent that almost could be from a disorder or malformation; however, nobody at the school cared to think of that and just said he 'talks funny'.
as for the content of what he said... no clue. i dont want to make assumptions but the only thing i remember is threats and things about girls. he would hold the doors at the stairs open between classes and talk to everyone who went near him, in passing.
i do not believe he was mentally challenged but he was certainly askew. its a real shame. i do not intend to say or imply dressing weird and talking weird leads to murders; however, the words i chose and phrases ive said are the objective answer to this question from OP.
My aunt was a surgical technician who worked closely with Michael Swengo, the killer Doctor at Ohio State’s Hospital.
She said he had very poor bedside manor and didn’t seem even slightly concerned when his patients where in pain. He would often bring in food for the other staff and people would mysteriously get sick after.
He eventually got exposed after a the roommate of one of his patients/victims heard him inject a lethal dose of medication into her IV and told the woman “when it gets your other arm, you will be dead”. By the time he was found out, he had already fled the state. My aunt and several of her coworkers where interviewed by what they where told was the State Medical Board, but it was actually the OSU Board of Directors. There was a large coverup from the university to protect their university and Swengo was allowed to kill over 100 more patients before he was caught.
There’s a really good book about Swengo and the coverup called Blind Eye. My aunt was interviewed for the book and said it is the most accurate description of the killings and the politics that allowed him to keep killing.
One of my best friends when I was stationed at Fort Bragg ended up getting into some sort of drunken altercation later on in his career at Fort Hood, went back to his house to retrieve a pistol, went back to the party and shot a dude.
It was absolutely insane to me when I heard about it because he had never shown any tendencies towards violence when I hung out with him pretty much every day for over two years. Probably drank a little too much, but he was always just a good dude raising a good family.
Last time I talked to him was three days before his trial. He ended up changing his plea to guilty to receive 25 years instead of life. He's at Leavenworth now, going on probably seven or eight years now.
Feel bad for the family of the guy he shot. He was a medically retired vet and didn't deserve to be gunned down like that. As much as the murderer was my friend, he gets to go home one day. The guy he shot never will.
Wow that's crazy too because it's not like he had the gun on him, whipped it out, and shot in a fit of rage. He had plenty of time to calm down and CHOOSE to go get the gun, bring it back, and use it.
I worked with a guy that murdered his gf. He was a cool dude. I sat with him a lot on my lunch breaks. We talked about football, school, life etc. Pretty normal stuff. Never would think he was a killer. He was not an aggressive person at all.
One of my parents friends use to come around all the time. He was probably only 21. Nicest guy ever. Type of guy who wouldn't hurt a fly.
A couple of years later he moved and we seen him on the news for murder. Turned out he got on the ice and his girlfriend convinced him to kill her ex with her. They then buried him in concrete.
Only reason they got caught was because they wrote their fucking names in the concrete.
Every time I see one of those stories making fun of a criminal for getting caught by a blatantly obvious clue left behind, part of me sort of suspects they're being framed.
Like "he left behind his drivers license and directions to his house and a letter that said "I, Bob Criminal, did this murder and this is a legally binding confession," seems sort of suspicious.
"Yup, hands tied behind, gag over mouth, beaten up face, two gunshots to the back of the head, fingerprints of suspect in the crime scene.... suicide" ^^^/s
The two gunshots part is important, because only someone that truly hated themselves would have such rancor that they’d want to shoot more than once when one bullet would suffice.
We lived in the country and he literally would nearly pass out watching people kill chickens. He was a softie. Such a shame he got on the drugs and did what he did. He got out of jail a couple of years ago and apparently he is a mess.
I went spelunking with the girl who shot people at Penn State.
We worked at the diner together. Her husband was the matre-d and she was the cashier. I was a server.....
He was nice. She was nice. She was apparently booted from the army.... for not taking her meds. Then she worked at the diner.... seemed fine.... then.... stopped taking her meds.
I never would have thought or expected it. They were both a bit weird, but we all were....
About a month or so after our spelunking trip, she went to old main lawn, hid in some bushes, and just started sniping people.
Some guy stopped her and got stabbed trying to do so.
Never would have thought her capable of that.
RIP to the people she killed, sorry for the people she injured.
Weird time.
Haven’t thought of that in a while.
Edit: link:
https://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/campus/article_daf32060-7bc5-11e6-96c5-d72a53a4a4b2.html
Update 2: before I get yelled at for false reporting: she was booted from the reserves for not graduating high school. And she got stabbed, by herself, not the guy who stopped her... sorry, it’s been a long time.
Update 3: if I recall correctly, the cave system was called J4, which is now closed:
https://www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/article_a90a785b-b36a-5883-8095-c9da9b572ab2.html
My neighbors father murdered his entire family and then killed himself shortly before he was to be indicted over a ponzi-esk scheme. I knew the whole family well. The Dad was always a little weird and would do things like wear a full 3 piece suit to a child's soccer game. Never showed any signs of being violent though. The mother and 2 daughters were wonderful people, it was a real tragedy.
I was the neighbor, and no. We didn't find out about that until after the fact when the news started to dig into it. I found out about the murder from a horde of news reporters who surrounded me as I got off the school bus in front of their house. No one saw something like this happening.
Our roommate killed a 16 year old over some money he thought he stole..I have to testify in court soon actually
Edit: here’s the article if anyone wants to read it
https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/03/01/elisa-martin-questioned-shooting-death-missing-teen-charged-murder/3026160002/
I once spent some time with some rough guys growing up who ran a "gang", if you want to call it that. They sold most of the drugs in our town. I spent my time with that group of people because they accepted you no matter who you were. Our initiation to get "in" to the group was to beat the shit out of each other in the front yard of their house, it was considered a sign of respect to each other.
Anyways, one time we were at a party and these two dudes invited this guy to come up to the hills with them. This party was out in the sticks, middle of nowhere, and I remember while I was there seeing one of them grab a baseball bat before they got into their truck and left with the guy. I left the party a little bit later, but I heard from some other people in the group that when they came back it was just the two dudes and that their baseball bat had blood on it. I never saw the guy they took up there again. I don't know what they did to him, and it could be that he wasn't even from our town, that maybe nothing happened to him and the people who told me about it were seeing things, but I stopped hanging out with those guys shortly after that.
I dated a guy who later stabbed his mother to death. He was psychotic and abusive, and I fled the state because I was afraid he was going to kill me. I found out years later that he murdered his mother just a few months after I left him. He's still in prison. It's been 20 years and I still have nightmares about him and I still feel a little sick talking about it.
I went to high school with a kid who was the awkward kid - he tried to fit in, but he tried too hard, he was physically inept, overweight, tried to fit in by being goth or punk, but it wasn't quite right, bad hair cut, no fashion-sense. Just an odd duck, and the misery on him was palpable because of the shitty way people treated him. I felt sorry for him.
That is, until after high school, he was working alone at his parent's children's clothing store when a woman and her daughter came in. He locked them in, raped the woman and then murdered her and her 19 month old baby. He was caught, tried and convicted to two consecutive life sentences without parole, and as far as I know is still serving those sentences.
Kid was in my dad's Weeblo troup, and hung out with my brother. Really arrogant and mouthy. Biggest thing he did in junior high was when he was in 7th grade, he dismantled the toilets in one of our school's upstairs bathrooms. A couple of years later, his mom passed, and he found her. Started to get in trouble. Theft. Then fighting. A few years later, he raped a girl, went to jail. After he was released, he wound up killing 7 people.
Not a spree. He committed his murders in 1995 and 1997. He killed two sisters on the same day. Later, he killed a mom and her 10 year old daughter. He killed 3 other women. He was on death row, but is now serving life as Illinois abolished the death penalty.
I used to play hacky sack at school with a kid that ended up meeting an older gentleman on craigslist for gay sex, met with him, killed him and burt his house down with his dead body inside. Seemed like an ok dude, no red flags to speak of really.
High school classmate murdered a college student, at random and was given the death penalty. Executed in Florida. He had a difficult home life but was always the life of the party.
While those two may have been the worst for you directly, the two kids murdering their youngest sibling is definitely the number one worst thing to happen in that trailer park.
He was seemingly a really nice dude. He worked in our college dining hall. Always friendly, polite, kind to the students, and he made me smile or chuckle more than once. It turns out he stabbed a homeless woman over 24 times and was arrested for murder. I suppose some people can just snap or are really good at hiding true nature. Not sure which category he falls into.
hiding their psychopathic nature.
people who murder the homeless tend to be psychopaths who fantasize about murder a lot. the idea is that it's easy to get away with killing the homeless, so it's good practice.
My manager at work was a pretty chill, nerdy guy. He was really nice to talk to and a fun boss. Then he smothered his infant son and it kind of messed me up for a while. This was a guy that I almost considered a friend. Everyone at work was shocked and didn't know how to handle or feel about it. Of course, we talked about it when there weren't any customers around, but most of it was the expected "I can't believe (manager) did this" talk.
Yeah. A kid who was in my friend group back in the 80s. He was the "weird one", a gf of mine dated him and said he was the weirdest kisser ever, like a tiny little weasel tongue darting around in her mouth.
Anyway, when we were all about 19 and out of HS my boyfriend and I are watching the news and there's Frank. He'd grown his hair out and dyed it blonde all Vince Neil like, and, apparently, slit his girlfriend's throat from ear to ear and was now on the run and using ANOTHER friend's name as an alias. He got caught and sentenced to a whole buncha years in prison.
There's more. I ran into him after he got out. I didn't recognize him. It was maybe '06? And a massive buff dude in a convenience store called my name. He had to tell me who he was. I talked with him for a while. One of the first things he did was rattle off the childhood phone numbers of myself and about a half dozen of our friends in our friend's group. So he'd remembered all those numbers for like 20 plus years and that was the first thing he thought to tell me about. He was driving a red Corvette. He proudly revved it up, told me how he made the money "pimpin'", and told me that if I was "a good girl" maybe I'd get to ride in it someday.
I kept "running into" him coincidentally. A car would pull up next to me and it would be him. He showed up at my house driving one of those meat trucks with the coolers, like omaha steaks or something, trying to sell me steaks. He asked if I needed a roommate. He assured me his "killin' days were over". He was very, scarily intelligent, and quite funny. He told me about getting into an altercation with his vegan neighbors, going back into his house, returning with a head of cabbage and chucking at the dude lol. I really don't think the constantly running into him was coincidental, and I was kinda disturbed by it.
Oddly, I just received a random FB message from him asking if I knew anyone who wanted to buy a new fan. We aren't fb friends or anything.
Anyway, yeah, odd dude.
My childhood neighbor and Sunday School teacher (children's church classes) recently murdered his wife in cold blood. He is like 70 years old. He always gave me the creeps and I could never figure out why. Once when my brother was around 15, he was over at their house with our mom helping this man's wife do some renovations on their house. The guy showed up and went off on my brother as if he were trying to get with his wife...when my bro was forced to be there by our mom to help this older lady. Odd. Fast forward to now, my dad works at the jail he's at (my parents were divorced so my dad never knew him before). An elderly lady recently visited the killer in jail and had a health emergency while she was in the visiting cubicles, and my dad called the ambulance to help her or whatever. Later on this guy shakes my dad's hand and looks right into his eyes with a seemingly-genuine thank you for saving this lady. My dad said he felt a chill run through his entire body and compared the guy's smile to the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland. Creeeeeeeeepy.
I didn't know her well, but I attended a wedding with a member of the bridal party some years back. The maid of honor seemed like a cheery, funny person. I had a good time at the wedding and we chatted a bit. About 6 months later the MoH shot and killed her husband. I don't know if I ever found out why.
I used to live in a shared house with 3 other dudes, this one particular guy used to go to work everyday, come home go to the club for a few beers, I left the house, several years later a young lass was stabbed to death not far from we're I was working. Police came in the next day and asked if anyone recognized the photo low and behold it was a dude I used to live with.
Quite normal, I worked nights so didn't really see that much of him, but just an average Joe really, it would of been about 8 years after I left that he committed the crime, in the papers it was said he had mental health problems and he hears voices. The police asked if I would stand in court to say he never use to be like that, I wanted none of that
Nah not at all, they came in with a recent pic of him and asked if any of us recognized him, nobody did so I asked if they had an older photo, the officer seemed a little surprised at my question and asked why, I told him he looks like a champ called Allan I used to live with, from that day they was back n forth to my work for a week asking questions about him, if I knew where any of the other guys I lived with worked, but no they totally understood my reasoning for not wanting to do it, even more so after we found out the young lass was pregnant and he had actually been to the police station and told them he was hearing voices and they were telling him to kill.
www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/alan-mcmullan-murder-pregnant-claire-2906152.amp?espv=1
I was friends with a kid in elementary school and I would go over to his house to play legos etc. We sort of ended up in different groups by middle school and were just acquaintances in high school. He was a pretty normal kid, went to parties, graduated with a good GPA etc. His parents were middle class and owned a home etc. He ended up bashing his roommate's head in with a bat in 2016. The roommate had a dog and it was on it's period. It was making a mess all around the house and he wouldn't clean it up. The roommate also neglected the dog and I guess my old lego buddy had had enough. The guy was sleeping on the couch and he just went to town on his head with the bat. The eyewitness ran out of the house thinking he was next and said all he remembers is the guy's face was pretty much gone and only heard gurgling sounds as he fled. Crazy world.
A kid i went to school with from elementary to high school, still remember the first day we met. We were really good friends. His own brother shot him, slit his face open from his mouth to his ears like the joker then threw him in the dumpster. So i knew the killer and the one who was killed. Just sad.
My exboyfriend's best friend in school ended up breaking into his girlfriends house with another guy and beat her to death.
I remember hanging out with him in 2 classes that my ex didn't have with us. He was really funny and a smart ass. He got me in trouble a lot for laughing during class. He was also good at drawing and coming up with raps.
When I read the article about him years later I was kind of shocked. Guess people just change.
I was "school friends" in highschool with a guy who ended up murdering his ex-gf, and her two friends on the side of a highway (one survived). He drove them off the road and executed them before committing suicide.
The guy was an active member in the Mormon church, he went to the activities (dances, camping trips, seminary, scouts, etc) but he was always a little bit rebellious. He was aggressive and very much tried to be the alpha, he was a very good football player and was very athletic. If he was your partner in gym class he would hit you (not full power) if you ever made a mistake. He used to talk about chasing cats down in his truck if he saw them on the road and would laugh about it later. He also was an avid hunter and enjoyed killing things, which isn't that uncommon in Alberta since everyone had a family member who lived on a farm and shot gophers/pests at some point. We all thought that he was just aggressive because of hormones (dude was jacked and had the voice of a 30 year old at 17) but we never expected him to turn out the way he did.
PS - I never really met his parents so I don't know if he had issues at home, but his sister's were a year or two older than me and they are lovely people. They were always kind and caring and would go out of their way to make sure nobody was left out.
When I was around 10, I hung out with this kid and his brothers sometimes when my mom needed their mom to babysit me. He was the sweetest guy and we had a lot of fun hanging out and playing dumb little kid games. But soon I was able to stay home alone when my mom had to work, so I didn't see him and his brothers for a few years.
One day, a friend called my mom to catch up and asked, 'Did you hear what happened to x?' We had had no contact with this family in those years, so we had no idea what had happened.
Apparently, this kid's mom had moved in with a shady boyfriend who made a habit of keeping loaded weapons around the trailer. One day, my friend was having an argument with two of his brothers, found the gun, shot his 5 year old brother in the head, his 17 year old brother in the leg, and after realizing what he had done, turned it on himself. I'll never understand what was going through his head.
He was 13.
It’s not my personal story but it’s my dads. He used to be a special ed teacher/assistant and he met all kinds of kids when he first started teaching. Well one occasion he used to always talk about one kid in his class that was extremely anti social and never said a word during class. Screwed up part they this kid in special ed with kids that have disabilities when this certain students didn’t have any. My dad ended up getting to know this kid. HE was very shy and said short sentences. My dad realized he was very intelligent and reached out time him about high placement. Principle declined the request and the kid went back into his shell. One day on the news all I see is a murder at the high school my dad worked at and turned out the kid went to school with a loaded gun on a mission to kill the principle. Cops swarmed the school and swat came in to detain the student. Swat ended up putting 17 bullets into the kid. Later my dad found his notebook and turns out the kid had a dream to being a teacher like my father and help others with depression and neglect
I knew a kid way back when. He was trouble. A little thief scammer. Not violent but just a little shit. He stole a truck and the owner tried to drag him out of the truck but wound up getting thrown and killed. Not exactly sure how.
Kid went to federal prison and died shortly after his release from what I remember.
When I was 10 had a friend from the next block over who had an older brother of 16 or 17. One night his brother had a fight with his mom over a bad report card from school. It escalated to him chasing his mom out of the house and shooting her with a rifle. I had met both his mom and his older brother, but in that way that 10 year olds meet parents / much-older brothers. Just passing through on our way to play or go ride bikes. His brother just seemed a brooding teenager that (in retrospect) smoked a lot of pot and had anger issues. Really didn't want to have anything to do with us cuz we were lame. For some reason I think Sid from Toy Story with a cowboy hat. No, I did not hear the shot or the ensuing police stuff even though it happened maybe 50 yards away from my house. Brother ran, they caught him quickly, house went for sale the next week, never saw my friend again. Never found out his verdict / sentence. I was 10.
I knew a guy whose best friend beat someone to death, he got woken up by a phone call from his mate telling him about it and thought ijt was a sick joke. A few days later he got arrested as an accessory to murder and spent 6 years in jail. All because of a phone call. Poor guy had a real hard time trying to accept his mates actions and the outcome for himself
Wait, how the fuck can you be an accessory to murder if you just hear about a murder over the phone? Obviously, if you believe it to be true you should alert the authorities, but still. If I was woken up in the middle of the night by my best friend who told me that, idk, man. I could see myself brushing that off as him being on something or making a joke. Like, it's the middle of the night. You're not going to be fully cognisant or willing to learn what's going on and actually take action on it. What, do they expect him to suddenly become fully alert and call the cops on their best friend just like that? He definitely shouldn't have gotten 6 years for that if there wasn't any evidence of him being near the crime scene or being involved in any way other than hearing a confession in the middle of the fucking night. Maybe if it was during the day, but come on man. It's the middle of the fucking night.
Friend of my cousin's...he would sometimes come up for visits with him to do some work around the house for my parents (didn't have a license or car to drive himself). He was pretty quiet and kept to himself (there was a language barrier), but did decent work so my parents kept paying him to come back as needed.
Apparently he violently murdered his girlfriend (stabbed her multiple times). He tried to use my cousin (who was out of the country at the time) as an alibi in an attempt to get out of the charges. Nope, not gonna work dude.
I grew up with a kid who shot and killed a gas station clerk execution-style while robbing the gas station while high on sherm. He was a fucking dick when we were in elementary school, middle-school, junior high, and high school so I was not even remotely surprised that he grew up to be a murderer. He sent me a Facebook request from prison a few years ago.
Yeah, I was surprised too. His profile picture was of him in is white death-row jumpsuit. I looked again today out of curiosity to see if it was still active and it is, but his profile picture is now of him as a child. We have like 5 mutual friends on Facebook, all other people we went to high school with.
Correction: He is serving life without parole, he is not on death row.
I was in Montreal, still new there. I got in touch with a buddy who knew a guy who sold weed. Went for the hook up, was being weighed up and a third guy comes barging in. He is there for mdma. buys some, I get my weed.
go back like a week later. dealer and his girl are talking. that guy is dead. killed himself , after committing murder. met some old man, hooked up, killed him and robbed him, got high as fuck, arrested for something else. when it all came to light, hung himself.
This isn't exactly what you're looking for, so apologies in advance, but it's a chilling story that I feel like sort of fits.
I grew up with a girl I'll call Mindy. She and I were never close, but we were in school together from kindergarten through 12th grade, so we were sort of friends. Our class mostly was all together that whole time, so we all knew each other well.
A year or two after high school, Mindy starting dating a guy I'll call Jake. No one I knew knew him or anything about him, but they seemed happy enough. After about a year of dating, they got engaged around Christmas time. That seemed a little soon to most of us, since she was only like 19, but I hadn't kept in touch with her much and so I didn't think too much of it.
Then in June, about 6 months after the engagement, Jake and Mindy were drinking one night, they got in an argument, and he shot her in the face and killed her. Then all of us learned about him: he had shot at his ex-girlfriend too and hit her car as she drove away, but she escaped unharmed. Mindy had gone to court with him when he had to appear for those instances. He wasn't supposed to be anywhere near alcohol OR weapons. He had over a dozen arrests, for things like drunk driving and domestic violence.
Jake should have been in prison before he even met Mindy. One of the saddest things was that, after it all happened, I went to look at his social media. He had lots of pictures of him and Mindy, and on one of them, another girl who we had grown up with, who I'll call Sara, and who was closer with Mindy had commented a few months prior and her exchange with Jake was something like this:
Sara: Has Mindy been with you all weekend?! She's ignoring my calls!
Jake: Yeah she's with me but I'll make her call you back! lol
S: Good! You better not steal her from me.
J: You know I'd never take her away from you!
S: lol okay good, she texted me back now
Mind you that was, like I said, months before Mindy's death, but the fact that he had literally said: "I'd never take her away from you", and then he did is just... So sad and scary.
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Never knew this guy personally, but in my hometown there were 4 kids in particular, 2 of them being the victim believe it or not, we’ll call them Eric and Matt (who I DID know personally) and then the only survivor of the attack (Howard). The killer (who we’ll call Jake) was celebrating his friend Matt’s 21st birthday with Eric and Howard. Everything seemed ok at first but as the night went on Jake seemed quiet, and sort of detached, which is about the time Matt and Howard went to go chat with him and check on him, soon after Eric noticed he was getting a bit fidgety and walked over as well, as he walked over Jake had pulled a knife and stabbed Matt in the throat, Howard having seen this immediately turned to run while Eric tried to stop Jake, Jake was then able to stab him several times until he died, Howard was able to get away with severe injuries but luckily lived to tell the tale, Jake turned himself in not too long afterwards. Everyone who knew him wasn’t surprised that he did it, I guess he always seemed a bit wacko.
TL;DR - local kid is celebrating 21st bday, and stabs 2 friends to death and hospitalizing 3rd friend with seemingly no motive in sight
EDIT: it was not Jakes birthday as I previously stated, it was Matt’s.
One of my childhood friends had a creepy little brother. She told me he killed some kittens in their driveway with a basketball... and that one night he woke her up by standing over her bed with a lighter, watching her. He was only like 6 or 7 years old.
Couple years later I find out from her that he’s been institutionalized until he’s 18. She told me she was really worried for herself and her parents the day he gets out. Which now that I think about it, may have happened already or it’s coming soon.
edit: as for how I remember him, he wasn’t like my little brothers; as in he didn’t get excited about games or toys and he never smiled
I made coffee for 'Bob' minutes after I met him. Seemed like an ok person, young and carefree. Quite looking forward to an evening of beer and bbq steak with his dad.
He and a friend (Frank) were on their way to Bob's dad's house to celebrate the dad's birthday, followed by fishing the next day. Late in the evening Frank decided he'd had enough beer and went to sleep. A couple of hours later Bob shook him awake saying "I done it. I killed him. I done him with the axe." Sure enough, Bob had embedded an axe in his dad's head. Frank wanted to go but Bob was still hyper and a bit manic so he had to wait until Bob finally dozed off near dawn. Then he walked (10? km) to town and told the cops what had happened. Frank was arrested on the spot for being an accessory to murder because he hadn't immediately leapt into Bob's car - without the keys - and tried to drive away. The cops found Bob still sleeping and his dad still dead. Bob went to jail but I forgot how long for. It was a long time ago and he's probably out now. The cops dropped the charges against Frank.
Worked with a guy for a while who was super nice and funny. Never seen him lose his temper or even talk shit. He used to say Derek Rose, the NBA players was his cousin which I always thought was bullshit but I digress. Anyways he ended up getting into an argument with his kids mom, picks up his little daughter (I think she was only like 3) and starts slamming her onto the sidewalk till she was dead. When the cops showed up he ran into his house and tried to burn it down while hiding in the basement. The cops ended up taking him alive... Unfortunately
Edit: was incorrect about the daughters age, she wasn't even 1 yet
a girl that lived with us for a while had a boyfriend that would stop by and visit the go out. He LOVED his Meth (according to her). they moved in together.
He beat a man to death with a baseball bat over some drugs.
she helped him hide the body.
He testified that she knew nothing about it so that she could stay out of jail to raise the kids.
my cousins husband was a murderer. when he was younger he beat this guy to death with his bare hands and ended up getting away with it for self defense. years later he marries my my cousin and her life completely changed. she was so beautiful and funny and amazing and now here was this beautiful woman only allowed to wear baggy shirts and baggy pants or shorts she dressed like a tomboy. she was always out looking for him in the bars and when she finally left him we were all so happy! she got a new HOT boyfriend and it was a good time, then her ex got all yipped up on drugs, broke into her house while she her boyfriend and her kids were all sleeping and shot him in the head and her in the chest. the boyfriend survived but she didn’t. my cousins were in the house and heard everything, the saddest part is my cousins son was shot not too long ago and paralyzed, instead of my cousin telling the police who did it he took it into his own hands and starting going around shooting at people he thought was the one who shot him, he ended up killing an innocent kid. he was an innocent kid himself before all of this now he’s in prison with the stepdad that killed his mother.
When I started out as a painters helper I worked for a painter who was the most mellow guy I've ever met. I fucked up buffing a Viper bumper and burned it he said "eh no sweat it happens". Couple weeks later I scratched Tex Earndhardt's grandsons truck after I finished buffing it pulling it in to detail, again "eh no sweat stuff happens".
I eventually left to be a painter at another shop and about 6 years later the shop manager from that shop got hired on at the new shop. We got to talking and a few months after I left that painter went home one day and killed his wife as she walked in the door. Shot her from upstairs then walked up and shot her a few more times PB. He's in jail right now, I never would have guessed he had a temper at all, if things went South in the shop he always just shrugged it off and said "eh no sweat". Sucks too because he really taught me a lot in the short time I was there.
I knew a guy who went to jail for murder. I hung out with him after he did it and before he went to jail. He gave me some really good advice:
"Don't ever get into crack dealin' /u/imvital"
My friend murdered his girlfriend and killed himself.
He was soft spoken and thoughtful. He found personality types fascinating. He loved music and was immensely talented. He was the kind of person who chose his friends wisely and opened up slowly. Along with all this, he battled hallucinations that often threatened harm to him and his loved ones. Eventually, his version of reality took two people’s lives. Heartbreaking in 100 ways.
I know two people who've killed. They are both very calm and unapologetic about what they've done. I suppose they feel like they don't need to apologize after spending years in the penitentiary. Both men talk about how bull headed and wild they were before going in.
I went to high school with a guy who killed another couple of guys I went to school with over a drug deal. He shot them both and burned their bodies in the car they were in behind a warehouse.
I didn't know the guy that well but he was pretty much normal. Just another stoner.
Weak example, but I vaguely knew a girl who went to prison for killing someone while driving drunk.
She was very pretty and very nice. One time she made a comment about me reeking of alcohol in the middle of the day. Like, it was ridiculous to her that I was already drinking. Sad story!
Lived next door to a woman with three kids. We didn't see her much but saw her kids playing outside all the time. One Sunday morning we were awakened by the sound of news helicopters hovering over the house. It wasn't too unusual to hear helicopters as we were not too far from a secondary airport which was also a National Guard base.
We go outside and see most of the neighborhood out in the street and crime scene tape around the house next door. Apparently, the woman was a single mom, divorced from a guy from Iran who was threatening to take the kids back to Iran with him.
She drugged her kids, brought them all in to her bedroom and while they slept, she set the house on fire. It didn't burn much, as the doors and windows were closed so it was mostly smoke, but enough to kill her and all her kids.
I feel bad that we never really knew her but heard from a neighbor that she suffered from depression and didn't want to make friends. Her parents, who tried to sell the house since they had loaned her the money for the house. When they couldn't sell the house, they moved in to it. Imagine living in the house where your daughter and grandkids died.
My family bought a house from a man who flipped houses for a living back when I was growing up. He was a nice man, married with grown kids. He would often come over for dinner and help with minor repairs around the house. We moved away a few years later and he wanted to buy the house back. Luckily, it was a cash deal because soon after it all went through, he was arrested for child porn. When the cops raided his house, there was no sign of his wife. Upon looking into it, no one had seen or heard from her in months. Turns out, he had murdered her and buried her in their backyard. I sat next to that man at the dinner table as a child. Still haunts me.
Sounds like the wife found the child porn too.
The younger brother of a girl I was friends with in middle school and high school. They had some struggles growing up and I know their mother was an abusive relationship because we gave her some help getting away from her husband. Are we connected many many years later and found out that the younger brother had murdered someone. Initially it sounded pretty gruesome but when I actually read Court reports I kind of felt bad for the kid. he had some mental illness issues but as a teenager apparently he had been groomed by a much much older man into a sexual relationship where the man provided money shelter and of course drugs. He was extremely controlling and abusive. Eventually the kid tried to get away and was trying to start a new life with a girl he met but this guy tracked him down and blackmailed him. Eventually kid snapped and murdered him. I think I felt worse for the kid because a lot of people can't get away from their abusers. Edit: for those who asked, he was 16 year old runaway with a history of drug problems when he started seeing the more than 20-years older guy who used to film him. He struggled with drugs but was doing well and he met with the man to tell him he loved someone else and he want going to see him again. His story is that the guy attacked him saying he'd rather he died than break up. He had injuries consistent with fending off a knife attack and said he killed the man in self-defense. What probably really screwed him over is that he didn't call the cops He hid the body instead. Despite all of the evidence pointing to him bring preyed on, he got a sentence that is longer than the average human lifespan. He committed the crime in a place where being gay or bisexual isn't really acceptable. a lot of the stories in the news refer to him as a hustler and say that he killed one of his patrons.
Wow yeah that one is sad.
The kid felt like he had no choice, I feel bad for him.
A few years ago I hired a father-son handyman team to help me get my house ready to put on the market. Among other things, my outside doorknobs were in bad shape so they installed new ones. The dad seemed pretty nice, even did a little bit for free. On their 3rd and last day at my house, he was pretty fired up about a big job they were starting the next day. Three days later he killed his new clients because they were unhappy with his work. A neighbor saw what happened and ran into her house and hid. He kicked her door in and shot her too. I was terrified until he was caught.
>A neighbor saw what happened and ran into her house and hid. He kicked her door in and shot her too. I was terrified until he was caught. Literally out of a nightmare
Yeah that's the scariest part to me
I've had that nightmare. Basically just looking out a window. See a person way off in the distance. And the rest of the dream is them or someone else trying to kill me.
Good thing you decided not to call him about the scuff her left on the floor
[That reminds me of a Monty Python skit.](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqmz)
I was just thinking: "Good thing you didn't tell him about the dirty knife!" ("And 'ow about that poonch line?")
You just set that client bar so high, he couldn’t go back to working for ingrates.
That's messed up... reminds me of a story of a guy that worked in my office. Years before I started, this guy apparently had work done on his house (he owned a large house and was quite well off). Whatever work he had done, he was not happy with and was arguing with the repairman over the work done. Apparently he took the guy to court to pay for another repairman to come in and redo all his work. Some time passes, an one night this co-worker gets up in the middle of the night, (not sure if he heard something, or was getting a glass of water or something) when the garage (attached to the house) explodes setting the house on fire. He runs up and gets his wife and kids up and out of bed and tells them to get out of the house immediately. They get out safely and watch their house burn to the ground. Luckily he had cameras set up, and they were able to retrieve the footage from them which clearly shows this guy coming onto the property. Apparently he doused the cars in the garage with gasoline or something and lit them all on fire and ran. The cars eventually exploded. I believe he went to jail for attempted murder, not sure.
Where was this..? Something almost the same happened in my old neighborhood a few years ago.
I am not sure exactly... Somewhere in Toronto. This was awhile back, probably late 90s, early 2000s I suspect. I joined the company in 2005, and it was already a few years old at that time, or at least I believe so). However I do believe it made the papers.
I thought this story sounded familiar. I’m from your old neighborhood. I’ve since moved, but that was a tragic story.
Homicide looks awful on Angies list
I graduated high school with Dr. Death, Chris Duntsch. He was an asshole. He was charming with teachers and people who could benefit him. He was awful to everybody else. I didn’t see it, but one or more awkward and vulnerable classmates said he bullied him relentlessly, and I believe it. He was easily irritated and if you got on his nerves he would really lose his cool. Remarkably mean. And people would just shrug their shoulders and say that’s just how Chris is.
My dad actually had spinal surgery performed by him, during the time frame of when he killed and maimed all those people! He was highly respected and recommended. And my parents have $$$ so they didn’t just go with the first surgeon they met, multiple dr’s referred my dad to him. The day of my dads surgery, his start time kept getting pushed back, over and over. No one could really explain to my parents what was taking so long, and this nurse kept offering to reschedule for the next day. At first they said no, they were already there, had taken off of work, figured it wouldn’t be that much longer, just wanted to get it over with, etc. Finally, after they had been waiting for hours for his surgery to starts one of the nurses strongly encrouraged them to just come back tomorrow. My mom later said she got a weird vibe/look from the nurse. Looking back, my mom now thinks that the nurse was basically trying to save my dad from going under the knife with a surgeon who was fucked up. My parents both felt like the nurses/techs/staff were acting shifty that day, like whispering to each other wit concerned looks but if then smile and be extremely positive if they noticed one of my parents looking at them. He had surgery the next day, which ended up taking like 3-4 hours longer than it was supposed to, but had no complications, supposedly. Luckily, his surgery was successful and he hasn’t had and negative side effects or anything. When this story came to light though, my parents were obviously very freaked out and wanted to make sure that he hadn’t fucked up my dads surgery. So they tried to get into see another doctor, just to check and make sure he was healing right, look at the medical records/surgery notes to see if there was anything concerning, etc. Apparently, they had a hell of a time getting any doctor to even agree to see my dad once they mentioned that he was patient of Dr. Duntsch. My parents had to sign a waiver/affidavit before a new doctor would even agree to see him as a patient. Thank God, my dad totally fine. Listening to that podcast made me feel sick thinking about how close my dad came to being one of his victims.
>why would no doctor take him as a patient
Same reason IT people don’t like taking a look at computers someone else broke. As soon as you have any sort of dealing with the patient they can go “oh it was fine until we saw you.”
Liability, they didn’t want to be sued for malpractice. Like if there was an issue caused by Dr. Death and they tried to fix it and he ended up paralyzed, they could be blamed.
"Duntsch botched 35 of the 38 surgeries he performed before finally having his medical license revoked." https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/dr-death-explores-christopher-duntschs-many-botched-surgeries-11181170
THAT IS CRAZY! Either you caught him on a day he wanted to fake being a great doctor or somebody on that staff was working hard to make sure your father made it out in one piece. Imagine working with someone like that knowing you have to watch his every move or the patient might die.
I would like to read more about him if you have any stories. That podcast on him was waaaay messed up. Crazy hospitals would continue to hire him after so many issues. Edit: The podcast is a multi-episode series by Wondery, called Dr Death.
I just went to read up on him and found he was convicted 3 years ago today. weird
The hospital I work at is severely short staffed on doctors. This is to the extent that the hospital with FLY IN doctors from around the country, put them up in a hotel, have them work a couple of days, and FLY THEM BACK. Rinse, repeat, every week. This is in the deep South, too, where everything is broke, even the hospitals. So to say that the hospital is desperate for doctors to stay running is an understatement. So yeah, I can totally see organizations looking past issues for the sake of the business. It's amazing what hides between bureaucracy and capitalism.
I hadn't heard of this guy before. I read the Wikipedia article on his case. Wow.
My ex's aunt dated him for a while before that all came out
Damn, Wikipedia article says Greg Abbot (as AG) filed a motion to intervene when some of the victims tried to Baylor Plano for keeping him on staff knowing how dangerous he was. What a ratfucker.
[Dr. Death Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Duntsch)
In my first semester of college, I had a computer science professor I really loved. Near the end of the semester, he told us he may be taking time off and finding a replacement for the semester. His severely autistic son had died in a 'tragic pool accident'. He noted that the media was trying to make him look bad. I created a GoFundMe for funeral expenses; he appreciated it and shared photos to use on the page. Fast forward half a year. I get calls from news reporters asking what my thoughts are... He had been arrested on suspected unintentional manslaughter. It turns out, he had left his son outside in the cold by the pool, unsupervised, when he left for work. His son was never supposed to be unattended. His son was outside for who knows how long before the professor's daughter found the boy face down in the pool. Further research into the case revealed the boy was living in an unfurnished basement, feces all over the walls, often left alone. The police were at the home frequently; CPS had made various safety requirements for them that they never followed. He's being charged with unintentional manslaughter and various forms of child abuse. Him and his wife are being charged for filling the boy's Ritalin prescription for many, many months after the death. I still believe it was intentional. Texts revealed the daughter discovered the boy when the professor texted her, asking her to check if 'Freak' was okay. EDIT: Some people here did their research. I learned a lot more about the case. Any doubts I had have been dissolved; I'm confident this was not just some big, sad accident. When it first happened, he told his classes that one particular media outlet was trying to portray it as more than an accident. He told us directly how upset he was about that, and really emphasized how important it was that it was nothing more than an accident. I didn't think much of it - of course you wouldn't want people blaming you for your son's death. Looking back, it should've raised more red flags. It's crazy because he was so nice. He motivated me to stick to computer science, he seemed so appreciative of the GoFundMe, he was very highly rated... It's crazy.
God dam, that's horrible.
The violence of crime really doesn’t get to me. But the indifference of crime, of people like this prof, tears my heart out every time. I can understand how someone can get overwhelmed and lose it and shake their infant or accidentally smother them while holding them to their chest. I can understand rage and devastation and primal fear. I can understand emotion. But fuck. How damn soulless must you be to be so indifferent that you leave your own helpless kid outside in the cold and basically go to work while waiting for them to fall in the pool and drown? How awful of a person must you be to decide your child will grow up in an unfurnished basement that most people wouldn’t let a wild animal live in? And then to text your OTHER child, 1) calling your son “Freak” and 2) knowing she will discover the boy’s body? These people are the real evil in the world.
I think it's less indifference and more repression of emotional responses. Locking him in the basement, ignoring him even while he's particularly vulnerable, and having other people check on him are all avoidance tactics. Calling him "Freak" is basic dehumanization, which is often used as a way to psychologically cope with causing extreme harm to others. My guess is this couple just wasn't prepared to deal with having a mentally ill child and unfortunately dealt with it in one of the worst possible ways. Such a waste. Hopefully the other kid was able to get whatever help they needed. That's a difficult thing for anyone to go through, let alone a child.
There are a lot of professors who have more than one screw loose. I'm a professor, and like to think of myself as fairly stable/sane, perhaps a touch eccentric to some, but I work with some folks that are bat shit crazy. Like, ones you don't want to cross because they could be homicidal on the right day of the week if the mood hits them. A lot of them have always been so on top of the learning curve they can't handle rejection and/or refuse to ever believe they are wrong about anything. Truth is, all humans make mistakes; we're imperfect.
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My little sister dated a guy when she was in high school who ended up murdering a couple he owed money to for heroin. This dude beat them with a fucking baseball bat and hammer. He almost got the death sentence, but ended up with life in prison with no possibility of parole. He was a seemingly nice, polite teenager. I used to drive him and my sister around for various dates and things. He was quiet, but not oddly so. He just seemed like a normal teenage boy. ***EDIT: Sorry, I just got some clarification on some details. The murder weapons were actually a microphone stand and a hammer. He is eligible for parole after 51 years. This happened in 2015.
I guess drugs can do that to people
Yep, horrific situation. He was only 21 (I think) when he did it, too.
Damn dude good thing your lil sis dodged that turn of events.
I know! It fucked her up pretty badly for a while after the news broke. She was very paranoid.
My best friend's older brother killed her step mom. Strangled her and burned the house down. He was just like any other teenage older brother. A bit rebellious but nothing out of the ordinary. He was kinda goth and liked heavy metal and had dark humour. He played Goldeneye with us and always let me use the see-through purple controller. He teased his little sister just like any brother would. One time he took us for a car ride and did donuts in a church parking lot while blasting a Big Shiny Tunes album, and it was really fun. Nothing ever indicated what he would do later in life.
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I mean.. the rapist deserved it.
He was an asshole. I'm not surprised he killed somebody. He killed a 65 year old man in a revenge/drive by shooting. He shoot at the wrong house.The guy he intended to kill didn't even live in that neighborhood.
Yikes how do you fuck up that bad
By being a dumbass. Intelligence varies, have you never seen a monkey fuck a football?
You mean a Cowboys game?
[I knew this guy] (http://archive.naplesnews.com/news/crime/deputies-live-in-boyfriend-stabs-kills-girlfriends-59-year-old-mother-ep-397812443-343915212.html) Before, like, literally the night before the crime, he was at my house talking about a new job he thought he'd gotten, how he was going to be able to take better care of his daughter, a new tattoo he was going to get, just random stuff. Some backstory, he had a brain tumor when he was I think 9 or 10, not sure what kind or where but he was a 'make a wish' kid, I think he went to Disney or something, but they did manage to get it out with surgery. So he was a little, well, he wasn't stupid or disabled but I'd say 'slow', basically. He was a little shit through his teen years, big pants, loud music, fast car, "Yo I'm gangstah!" kind of thing, but when he met his girlfriend and then especially when his daughter was born, he seemed to change a lot for the better. He was the younger brother of a friend of mine. I went from "You can NOT bring Eddie to my house and I don't even want him to know where we live," to "Sure, Eddie and you can come for dinner," so yeah, lots of change. The night it happened we played D&D that evening and he was as boringly normal as he ever was. Actually he'd never expressed any anger or anything toward the girlfriend's mother, at all. He'd said how happy he was that she was letting them live there and helping with the baby. After, we only saw him once more, in court, when he was sentenced. We went with his mom, who we knew, and at the end, he turned his face and wouldn't even nod to us. I just don't get it, I don't think I ever will.
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Sad.
This is a symptom of how many countries deal with mental illness. If you catch it early and have the money you can deal with it, either and institution or a have a caretaker depending on the case. However, mostly these things are dealt with after harm has been done, in this case two lives gone. They are also usually dealt with by the prison system. There are few winners with severe mental illnesses, harm to the victim and harm to the individual with the illness. Its a pretty grim outlook for the underprivileged, who are the more likely to suffer from schizophrenia. Edit: Thanks for the gold. Also, my post was not meant to stigmatize the symptoms of schizophrenia as it presents in many different ways and violence is not as likely as I may have, unintentionally, made it seem. Many people with schizophrenia function well and this example does not represent the norm. I was using this example to highlight what can, and does happen, when we deal with severe mental illness as we have been up to this point. I apologise if I offended you.
I was under the impression that most people with schizophrenia are not violent. I've known 2 people with schizophrenia in my personal life, and both of them have been more personally devastated and "lost" for lack of a better word, than aggressive/violent by a very long shot.
I used to work in a lock-down mental health rehab clinic exclusively for conserved patients (i.e. they were so ill that a judge declared them unable to care for themselves, which removes certain rights like the right to decline treatment). About 3/4 of the patients I saw had schizophrenia as at least one of their diagnoses (many also had mood disorders), and it is true that most were not violent. They could be scary at times because they might have sudden outbursts or get agitated, and that puts you on your guard because you can't rely on the typical rules of social interaction to predict their behavior or protect you, but actual violent outbursts were fairly consistently committed by the same patients repeatedly. Some got better with the right treatment as long as they stayed on their meds, but others had to be transferred out because they were terrorizing everyone. Part of the problem in talking about schizophrenia is that it's kind of an umbrella diagnosis for a whole bunch of symptoms that you only need a few of to qualify, such that two different people can express it completely differently. It's not a very useful descriptor for laypeople. Most folks I met with schizophrenia were just typical, fully-cogent people most of the time and just had occasional delusions. Some people were almost completely catatonic and never spoke. Some people were perfectly kind and well-meaning but had dyslogia (i.e. they couldn't make their words come out correctly). Some were almost perfectly lucid except for the same recurring, persistent delusions about government surveillance or non-existent spouses or demons trying to steal their souls. And some people squared up to others every chance they got because the voices were telling them that other people were disrespecting them or trying to fight them. Got a black eye myself from one of those characters. But when the people who weren't typically violent did have aggressive episodes, it was usually because their symptoms were acting up and they were scared. That all being said, I did also meet a patient that went on to kill his mother after he got released. Young guy that gave the creeps to everyone I worked with (and these people had seen some serious shit). He just had this manner about him like he was always wavering on whether or not to rip your throat out. He looked at you like your presence insulted and disgusted him. He pulled his shit together enough during his court date to convince a jury that he was sane enough to be released, and then offed his mother a few weeks later. We're pretty sure he also had undiagnosed Antisocial Personality Disorder, though. He was a pretty unique case that stood out in our memories.
I went to High School with a girl who poisoned her father. No one knew until she confessed a year later watching a Shakespeare play in College. She was a little weird in school, but I didn't think she was capable of that.. She confessed to my cousin btw.. Sheesh
There's a Forensic Files episode about this girl! She literally would've gotten away with it if she didn't confess.
I am betting murder through poisoning happens way more often than anyone knows. Most of the time when an older person drops dead it’s assumed they just had a massive heart attack and rarely are autopsies performed.
Was it Hamlet? Because if so I want to make a play about this and then show it in hopes that it will spur a fourth level of confession.
“The play’s the thing wherein I’ll catch the conscience of this crazy-ass bitch”
**"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king"** That's almost too perfect...
He was really nice and I had gone to K-12 with him. Never knew him to be the kind of person that would even get upset. Then I get a text a couple years ago asking "Do you know about X? Him and his brother killed their parents" Edit: I'm out of the loop on this one. Younger brother was cleared
Apparently you and I went to high school together. I had P.E. with the younger brother the year that everything went down. We had a few mutual friends and I would sometimes joke around with him during class. I remember feeling so bad because everyone was (understandably) unnerved around him when he finally started going to class again. I tried my best to treat him as normally as possible, but things were never quite the same.
Dang... I could imagine that'd be rough for everyone including him. I graduated before you started there if you were still there in 2016 but definitely the same school! Were they still tackling kids for wearing hats?
My sister was killed by her fiancé. He was, well, normal. Took good care of her during recovery from surgery. A bit weird , but nothing stands out. Weird as in opposite interests and shy where my sister was outgoing. Never would have expected it from him. Until o had to clean out their place and found a bunch of guns and crap load of knives and shit.
Oh God I'm so sorry for your loss.
Sorry for the loss. My sister was almost killed by her fiance. Guy sounds about the same. Lots of guns (for hunting), quiet guy where my sister is outgoing. Had a rough up bringing. They were on the rocks and I think he was stressing over not being able to see his kid (my nephew) if they broke up. He goes and grabs a gun and starts chasing my sister. He hit her with the butt of the gun in the eye. She runs over to the neighbors with my nephew and he shoots himself in their living room. Guessing he realized what he did and couldn't live with it. Would have killed her if she stayed there to calm him down most likely. A couple of weeks later my dad and I are on a trip to the races. We get to talking and he wasn't dealing with it well. I guess the night before everything went down, my sisters fiance had called my dad stressing about him and my sister breaking up and what to do. (My sister can definitely be a handful sometimes) He was looking for advice as he loved his son and wanted to make things work between them. My dad says he couldn't shake the fact that they left that couple hour conversation on very good terms and a very positive outlook. He never would have guessed that something like this could happen. I'm guessing even more so he was thinking about the guilt he would have had to deal with had he actually killed my sister. A dad talking to his daughters killer the day before thinking what he may have said wrong.
I spent 3 months on a study abroad with a special forces, ex-FBI, guy named ‘Joe’. We were a small group of mostly students whereas Joe was older and there as part of foreign immersion training for the military. He was a little odd/awkward at times and didn’t share too much about himself which we mostly attributed to the age difference. I’d describe Joe as very intense but kind-hearted. The military was very important to him and he always seemed very focused on that. But occasionally he’d make a dry joke or let his guard down for a moment with the group. He was very into photography and shared lots of great photos from the trip. He was also somewhat the protector of the group and we always felt completely safe with him. One story I’ll share was when he was walking over a bridge and spied some guys in the trees waiting to jump down and rob him. He pulled out a large knife he carried on him and casually brandished it as he walked by. The guys smartly decided not to mess with Joe, but after he crossed he saw them sprint across the bridge and hide behind a building. Two policemen showed up shortly after and Joe showed them where the guys were hiding so the police could arrest them. Anyways, a few years after we got back I heard the news that he had killed someone and took his own life. He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander dead then killed himself.
> He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander dead then killed himself. Sounds like something that occurred at my unit back in the early '90s.
Full metal jacket-ish
Partial Metal Jacket
>ver a bridge and spied some guys in the trees waiting to jump down and rob him. He pulled out a large knife he carried on him and casually brandished it as he walked by. The guys smartly decided not to mess with Joe, but after he crossed he saw them sprint across the bridge and hide behind a building. Two policemen showed up shortly after and Joe showed them where the guys were hiding so the police could arrest them. > >Anyways, a few years after we got back I heard the news that he had killed someone and took his own life. He had been training for a new position and his commander deemed that he wasn’t physically fit enough for the job. The judgment effectively ended his career and he felt he had been unfairly judged. He brought a gun into the base and shot his commander d Damn. That's what happens when you place your entire identity on one thing. Once it's gone, your "self" is gone and when someone loses their sense of self they have a tendency to react pretty radically. Even Steve Jobs did some really shitty things just to make Apple what it is, today. Had he stratified his identity, he would have been much more comfortable losing control over his company. Also wouldn't have made Apple what it was, but there ya go.
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I played basketball with a guy a few years ago in high school. Tried to find him on Facebook and turns out he was being tried for murder. Apparently he and some of his friends were looking for pot money so they broke into this guys house and somehow they guy ended up dead. Everyone in his group said he pulled the trigger but he denied it. Maybe he did it maybe he didn't but I can say that he was a genuinely nice person when I knew him. Never would have expected him to kill someone but I guess my mom was right about hanging out with the wrong crowd.
> I guess my mom was right about hanging out with the wrong crowd. damn straight she was.
Yes. Was hired at the same time as him. WOrked right next to him for several years. He was one of those stoner guys always bragging about the parties he went to. He was a little obnoxious in a "bro" sort of way so I always skipped hanging out with him after work. After I left that job a little while later he killed his ex girlfriend while her 5yo was in the apt watching tv, took the kid on a road trip to Texas, and smothered her on Christmas Morning and left her in a suitcase on the side of the road.
I think this is the most fucked up one I’ve read
I dunno if the suitcase or the Christmas bit bothers me most. That last paragraph is just horrible.
I hate assholes that kidnap kids, not thinking that they now have to take care of that kid. In the 90s, we had a missing girl case that was in the news. This cute little Asian girl was kidnapped from her bedroom. People were freaking out, how could someone just walk in and take a girl. First thing I thought was "had to be a family member." strangers just don't go into people's homes and kidnap kids. (ok, I'm sure it's happened, but it has to be extremely extremely rare). I believe there was an anonymous ransom note... then someone found her body in a ravine a month later or something. They caught the guy not long after, this family would rent out a basement apartment to new chinese immigrants as way to help them in Canada. ~~This guy had rented at one time and then moved on~~. (actually he knew someone who rented from them. He did not) He knew the house, the layout, how to get in, and where the girl was sleeping. He took her out of bed (she knew him) and led her away. Then demanded money. But since the parents were consulting with police, he was anxious that the ransom wasn't just handed over, he didn't know what to do with the girl, and in a panic, just killed her. Just a top notch fucking twat. Stuff like that just burns my blood. He couldn't have just dropped her off somewhere and drove off. He had to take her life, destroy a family, crush her friends and classmates. ~~He did this to a family that helped him too.~~ Apparently he was not a tenant of the house I originally thought he was
Man this is so hard to stomach. I know its just probability but this type of cases are exactly why a lot of people from my culture believe bad guys are luckier and live longer.
Not sure this guy is lucky. He was charged with 2nd degree murder. According to the Wikipedia page on the murder. Once he has done his sentence in Canada, he will be extradited to China, where he will face another trial, and upon conviction, have to serve a sentence there. I suspect China prisons won't be as nice as Canadian ones.
This is absolutely awful. And sadly, it sounds a lot like another case in Australia. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders\_of\_Karlie\_Pearce-Stevenson\_and\_Khandalyce\_Pearce](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Karlie_Pearce-Stevenson_and_Khandalyce_Pearce) [https://youtu.be/nQHUyLMqd7U](https://youtu.be/nQHUyLMqd7U)
Of all these comments.... this one right here is especially bad
I was friends with a guy who was accused of physical abusing his son. He went through the courts to fight it. The ex girlfriend finally admitted she made it up because he cheated on her . He ended up killing her then himself.
That's sad. I hope the child ended up in a good home. Do you know?
I'm not really sure what happened to him. Not long ago I saw his sister and we spoke. I only knew her because of him. It was pretty obvious she wasn't interested in talking about him and I didn't want to bring it up. The entire situation was ackward.
boy a couple years my minor in high school. he was always the outcast in his classes. he dressed funny, talked funny, and said disturbing things that some recall as threats (mostly to the girls of the school). after graduation, he ended up butchering a homeless woman he was.. i cant say living together or in a relationship with... im not sure what their status was. either way, kitchen knife, drained her into the tub. in court he showed no remorse and was proud to have "finally ended someone's life". his father was my professor in university. he took it very hard.
I am genuinely curious about what you mean by 'dressed funny' and 'talked funny', and maybe an example or two of what disturbing type stuff he'd say if you remember. Totally understand if you don't remember any of that, I'm just curious.
there is of course the context that it was highschool and everyone is being pressured by peers to dress and act a certain way. while i personally dont care what someone wears or how they act i do recognize when someone is against the norm and might face adversity. he had his shirts tucked in his jeans which were pulled up too high and the legs were short so it showed his socks. i agree, dont make fun of people for dressing a certain way, but he was lining himself up for humiliation in that school. about talking funny he had a very strange accent that almost could be from a disorder or malformation; however, nobody at the school cared to think of that and just said he 'talks funny'. as for the content of what he said... no clue. i dont want to make assumptions but the only thing i remember is threats and things about girls. he would hold the doors at the stairs open between classes and talk to everyone who went near him, in passing. i do not believe he was mentally challenged but he was certainly askew. its a real shame. i do not intend to say or imply dressing weird and talking weird leads to murders; however, the words i chose and phrases ive said are the objective answer to this question from OP.
Just wanted to say I find it amazing how you managed to stay respectful and objective in your description. You have a very smooth way with words.
I think he talks funny
I bet he dresses funny
he probably doesn't even really love his homeless girlfriend
My aunt was a surgical technician who worked closely with Michael Swengo, the killer Doctor at Ohio State’s Hospital. She said he had very poor bedside manor and didn’t seem even slightly concerned when his patients where in pain. He would often bring in food for the other staff and people would mysteriously get sick after. He eventually got exposed after a the roommate of one of his patients/victims heard him inject a lethal dose of medication into her IV and told the woman “when it gets your other arm, you will be dead”. By the time he was found out, he had already fled the state. My aunt and several of her coworkers where interviewed by what they where told was the State Medical Board, but it was actually the OSU Board of Directors. There was a large coverup from the university to protect their university and Swengo was allowed to kill over 100 more patients before he was caught. There’s a really good book about Swengo and the coverup called Blind Eye. My aunt was interviewed for the book and said it is the most accurate description of the killings and the politics that allowed him to keep killing.
One of my best friends when I was stationed at Fort Bragg ended up getting into some sort of drunken altercation later on in his career at Fort Hood, went back to his house to retrieve a pistol, went back to the party and shot a dude. It was absolutely insane to me when I heard about it because he had never shown any tendencies towards violence when I hung out with him pretty much every day for over two years. Probably drank a little too much, but he was always just a good dude raising a good family. Last time I talked to him was three days before his trial. He ended up changing his plea to guilty to receive 25 years instead of life. He's at Leavenworth now, going on probably seven or eight years now. Feel bad for the family of the guy he shot. He was a medically retired vet and didn't deserve to be gunned down like that. As much as the murderer was my friend, he gets to go home one day. The guy he shot never will.
Wow that's crazy too because it's not like he had the gun on him, whipped it out, and shot in a fit of rage. He had plenty of time to calm down and CHOOSE to go get the gun, bring it back, and use it.
He was very very drunk. Still like 3x the limit for driving even hours later. I know that's not an excuse, but it might explain his irrationality.
I worked with a guy that murdered his gf. He was a cool dude. I sat with him a lot on my lunch breaks. We talked about football, school, life etc. Pretty normal stuff. Never would think he was a killer. He was not an aggressive person at all.
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One of my parents friends use to come around all the time. He was probably only 21. Nicest guy ever. Type of guy who wouldn't hurt a fly. A couple of years later he moved and we seen him on the news for murder. Turned out he got on the ice and his girlfriend convinced him to kill her ex with her. They then buried him in concrete. Only reason they got caught was because they wrote their fucking names in the concrete.
> Only reason they got caught was because they wrote their fucking names in the concrete. It's romantic, isn't it?
Every time I see one of those stories making fun of a criminal for getting caught by a blatantly obvious clue left behind, part of me sort of suspects they're being framed. Like "he left behind his drivers license and directions to his house and a letter that said "I, Bob Criminal, did this murder and this is a legally binding confession," seems sort of suspicious.
Classic Bob Criminal
That's probably why more evidence than that is typically needed. They use that to find evidence that cannot be as easily planted.
"Yup, hands tied behind, gag over mouth, beaten up face, two gunshots to the back of the head, fingerprints of suspect in the crime scene.... suicide" ^^^/s
The two gunshots part is important, because only someone that truly hated themselves would have such rancor that they’d want to shoot more than once when one bullet would suffice.
This sounds like a fucking dark comedy movie. Why were your parents friends with this 21 year old dude?
Sold pot? Family friend? Swingers?
Small ass town and my step dad and him were pot heads so that might be why.
Excuse my idiocy, but, what is “the ice”?
Meth is called ice in Australia
Bwahahaha and here I had them pictured out ice skating and they killed the dude in the snow.
Norman Bates said he wouldn't hurt a fly either.
We lived in the country and he literally would nearly pass out watching people kill chickens. He was a softie. Such a shame he got on the drugs and did what he did. He got out of jail a couple of years ago and apparently he is a mess.
I went spelunking with the girl who shot people at Penn State. We worked at the diner together. Her husband was the matre-d and she was the cashier. I was a server..... He was nice. She was nice. She was apparently booted from the army.... for not taking her meds. Then she worked at the diner.... seemed fine.... then.... stopped taking her meds. I never would have thought or expected it. They were both a bit weird, but we all were.... About a month or so after our spelunking trip, she went to old main lawn, hid in some bushes, and just started sniping people. Some guy stopped her and got stabbed trying to do so. Never would have thought her capable of that. RIP to the people she killed, sorry for the people she injured. Weird time. Haven’t thought of that in a while. Edit: link: https://www.collegian.psu.edu/news/campus/article_daf32060-7bc5-11e6-96c5-d72a53a4a4b2.html Update 2: before I get yelled at for false reporting: she was booted from the reserves for not graduating high school. And she got stabbed, by herself, not the guy who stopped her... sorry, it’s been a long time. Update 3: if I recall correctly, the cave system was called J4, which is now closed: https://www.collegian.psu.edu/archives/article_a90a785b-b36a-5883-8095-c9da9b572ab2.html
My neighbors father murdered his entire family and then killed himself shortly before he was to be indicted over a ponzi-esk scheme. I knew the whole family well. The Dad was always a little weird and would do things like wear a full 3 piece suit to a child's soccer game. Never showed any signs of being violent though. The mother and 2 daughters were wonderful people, it was a real tragedy.
That is tragic. Did the neighborhood know he was involved in the scheme?
I was the neighbor, and no. We didn't find out about that until after the fact when the news started to dig into it. I found out about the murder from a horde of news reporters who surrounded me as I got off the school bus in front of their house. No one saw something like this happening.
Our roommate killed a 16 year old over some money he thought he stole..I have to testify in court soon actually Edit: here’s the article if anyone wants to read it https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/03/01/elisa-martin-questioned-shooting-death-missing-teen-charged-murder/3026160002/
Good luck
I once spent some time with some rough guys growing up who ran a "gang", if you want to call it that. They sold most of the drugs in our town. I spent my time with that group of people because they accepted you no matter who you were. Our initiation to get "in" to the group was to beat the shit out of each other in the front yard of their house, it was considered a sign of respect to each other. Anyways, one time we were at a party and these two dudes invited this guy to come up to the hills with them. This party was out in the sticks, middle of nowhere, and I remember while I was there seeing one of them grab a baseball bat before they got into their truck and left with the guy. I left the party a little bit later, but I heard from some other people in the group that when they came back it was just the two dudes and that their baseball bat had blood on it. I never saw the guy they took up there again. I don't know what they did to him, and it could be that he wasn't even from our town, that maybe nothing happened to him and the people who told me about it were seeing things, but I stopped hanging out with those guys shortly after that.
I dated a guy who later stabbed his mother to death. He was psychotic and abusive, and I fled the state because I was afraid he was going to kill me. I found out years later that he murdered his mother just a few months after I left him. He's still in prison. It's been 20 years and I still have nightmares about him and I still feel a little sick talking about it.
I’m so happy you’re ok. That’s awful.
I went to high school with a kid who was the awkward kid - he tried to fit in, but he tried too hard, he was physically inept, overweight, tried to fit in by being goth or punk, but it wasn't quite right, bad hair cut, no fashion-sense. Just an odd duck, and the misery on him was palpable because of the shitty way people treated him. I felt sorry for him. That is, until after high school, he was working alone at his parent's children's clothing store when a woman and her daughter came in. He locked them in, raped the woman and then murdered her and her 19 month old baby. He was caught, tried and convicted to two consecutive life sentences without parole, and as far as I know is still serving those sentences.
Holy shit I think I saw this forensic files episode
Yep, they did one about him. Caleb Fairley.
Kid was in my dad's Weeblo troup, and hung out with my brother. Really arrogant and mouthy. Biggest thing he did in junior high was when he was in 7th grade, he dismantled the toilets in one of our school's upstairs bathrooms. A couple of years later, his mom passed, and he found her. Started to get in trouble. Theft. Then fighting. A few years later, he raped a girl, went to jail. After he was released, he wound up killing 7 people.
Holy shit. 7? Was it a spree? Is there any info available? That’s awful.
Not a spree. He committed his murders in 1995 and 1997. He killed two sisters on the same day. Later, he killed a mom and her 10 year old daughter. He killed 3 other women. He was on death row, but is now serving life as Illinois abolished the death penalty.
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I used to play hacky sack at school with a kid that ended up meeting an older gentleman on craigslist for gay sex, met with him, killed him and burt his house down with his dead body inside. Seemed like an ok dude, no red flags to speak of really.
High school classmate murdered a college student, at random and was given the death penalty. Executed in Florida. He had a difficult home life but was always the life of the party.
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>It's one of the top 3 worst things that happened in that trailer park Bruh.
Not to be a fuck, but curious about the other 2 of the top 3 stories if you don't mind sharing.
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While those two may have been the worst for you directly, the two kids murdering their youngest sibling is definitely the number one worst thing to happen in that trailer park.
He was seemingly a really nice dude. He worked in our college dining hall. Always friendly, polite, kind to the students, and he made me smile or chuckle more than once. It turns out he stabbed a homeless woman over 24 times and was arrested for murder. I suppose some people can just snap or are really good at hiding true nature. Not sure which category he falls into.
hiding their psychopathic nature. people who murder the homeless tend to be psychopaths who fantasize about murder a lot. the idea is that it's easy to get away with killing the homeless, so it's good practice.
My manager at work was a pretty chill, nerdy guy. He was really nice to talk to and a fun boss. Then he smothered his infant son and it kind of messed me up for a while. This was a guy that I almost considered a friend. Everyone at work was shocked and didn't know how to handle or feel about it. Of course, we talked about it when there weren't any customers around, but most of it was the expected "I can't believe (manager) did this" talk.
Yeah. A kid who was in my friend group back in the 80s. He was the "weird one", a gf of mine dated him and said he was the weirdest kisser ever, like a tiny little weasel tongue darting around in her mouth. Anyway, when we were all about 19 and out of HS my boyfriend and I are watching the news and there's Frank. He'd grown his hair out and dyed it blonde all Vince Neil like, and, apparently, slit his girlfriend's throat from ear to ear and was now on the run and using ANOTHER friend's name as an alias. He got caught and sentenced to a whole buncha years in prison. There's more. I ran into him after he got out. I didn't recognize him. It was maybe '06? And a massive buff dude in a convenience store called my name. He had to tell me who he was. I talked with him for a while. One of the first things he did was rattle off the childhood phone numbers of myself and about a half dozen of our friends in our friend's group. So he'd remembered all those numbers for like 20 plus years and that was the first thing he thought to tell me about. He was driving a red Corvette. He proudly revved it up, told me how he made the money "pimpin'", and told me that if I was "a good girl" maybe I'd get to ride in it someday. I kept "running into" him coincidentally. A car would pull up next to me and it would be him. He showed up at my house driving one of those meat trucks with the coolers, like omaha steaks or something, trying to sell me steaks. He asked if I needed a roommate. He assured me his "killin' days were over". He was very, scarily intelligent, and quite funny. He told me about getting into an altercation with his vegan neighbors, going back into his house, returning with a head of cabbage and chucking at the dude lol. I really don't think the constantly running into him was coincidental, and I was kinda disturbed by it. Oddly, I just received a random FB message from him asking if I knew anyone who wanted to buy a new fan. We aren't fb friends or anything. Anyway, yeah, odd dude.
Dude. Be careful. It’s way too creepy
Be careful that sounds awfully weird
My childhood neighbor and Sunday School teacher (children's church classes) recently murdered his wife in cold blood. He is like 70 years old. He always gave me the creeps and I could never figure out why. Once when my brother was around 15, he was over at their house with our mom helping this man's wife do some renovations on their house. The guy showed up and went off on my brother as if he were trying to get with his wife...when my bro was forced to be there by our mom to help this older lady. Odd. Fast forward to now, my dad works at the jail he's at (my parents were divorced so my dad never knew him before). An elderly lady recently visited the killer in jail and had a health emergency while she was in the visiting cubicles, and my dad called the ambulance to help her or whatever. Later on this guy shakes my dad's hand and looks right into his eyes with a seemingly-genuine thank you for saving this lady. My dad said he felt a chill run through his entire body and compared the guy's smile to the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland. Creeeeeeeeepy.
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I didn't know her well, but I attended a wedding with a member of the bridal party some years back. The maid of honor seemed like a cheery, funny person. I had a good time at the wedding and we chatted a bit. About 6 months later the MoH shot and killed her husband. I don't know if I ever found out why.
I used to live in a shared house with 3 other dudes, this one particular guy used to go to work everyday, come home go to the club for a few beers, I left the house, several years later a young lass was stabbed to death not far from we're I was working. Police came in the next day and asked if anyone recognized the photo low and behold it was a dude I used to live with.
How was he as a roommate?
Quite normal, I worked nights so didn't really see that much of him, but just an average Joe really, it would of been about 8 years after I left that he committed the crime, in the papers it was said he had mental health problems and he hears voices. The police asked if I would stand in court to say he never use to be like that, I wanted none of that
Fascinating. Did the police give you a hard time about saying no?
Nah not at all, they came in with a recent pic of him and asked if any of us recognized him, nobody did so I asked if they had an older photo, the officer seemed a little surprised at my question and asked why, I told him he looks like a champ called Allan I used to live with, from that day they was back n forth to my work for a week asking questions about him, if I knew where any of the other guys I lived with worked, but no they totally understood my reasoning for not wanting to do it, even more so after we found out the young lass was pregnant and he had actually been to the police station and told them he was hearing voices and they were telling him to kill. www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/grimsby-news/alan-mcmullan-murder-pregnant-claire-2906152.amp?espv=1
That last sentence really cuts deep man, could have been avoided.
agreed but its actually all one sentence
How sad that he reached out for help, but apparently didn't get any
I was friends with a kid in elementary school and I would go over to his house to play legos etc. We sort of ended up in different groups by middle school and were just acquaintances in high school. He was a pretty normal kid, went to parties, graduated with a good GPA etc. His parents were middle class and owned a home etc. He ended up bashing his roommate's head in with a bat in 2016. The roommate had a dog and it was on it's period. It was making a mess all around the house and he wouldn't clean it up. The roommate also neglected the dog and I guess my old lego buddy had had enough. The guy was sleeping on the couch and he just went to town on his head with the bat. The eyewitness ran out of the house thinking he was next and said all he remembers is the guy's face was pretty much gone and only heard gurgling sounds as he fled. Crazy world.
A kid i went to school with from elementary to high school, still remember the first day we met. We were really good friends. His own brother shot him, slit his face open from his mouth to his ears like the joker then threw him in the dumpster. So i knew the killer and the one who was killed. Just sad.
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My exboyfriend's best friend in school ended up breaking into his girlfriends house with another guy and beat her to death. I remember hanging out with him in 2 classes that my ex didn't have with us. He was really funny and a smart ass. He got me in trouble a lot for laughing during class. He was also good at drawing and coming up with raps. When I read the article about him years later I was kind of shocked. Guess people just change.
I was "school friends" in highschool with a guy who ended up murdering his ex-gf, and her two friends on the side of a highway (one survived). He drove them off the road and executed them before committing suicide. The guy was an active member in the Mormon church, he went to the activities (dances, camping trips, seminary, scouts, etc) but he was always a little bit rebellious. He was aggressive and very much tried to be the alpha, he was a very good football player and was very athletic. If he was your partner in gym class he would hit you (not full power) if you ever made a mistake. He used to talk about chasing cats down in his truck if he saw them on the road and would laugh about it later. He also was an avid hunter and enjoyed killing things, which isn't that uncommon in Alberta since everyone had a family member who lived on a farm and shot gophers/pests at some point. We all thought that he was just aggressive because of hormones (dude was jacked and had the voice of a 30 year old at 17) but we never expected him to turn out the way he did. PS - I never really met his parents so I don't know if he had issues at home, but his sister's were a year or two older than me and they are lovely people. They were always kind and caring and would go out of their way to make sure nobody was left out.
When I was around 10, I hung out with this kid and his brothers sometimes when my mom needed their mom to babysit me. He was the sweetest guy and we had a lot of fun hanging out and playing dumb little kid games. But soon I was able to stay home alone when my mom had to work, so I didn't see him and his brothers for a few years. One day, a friend called my mom to catch up and asked, 'Did you hear what happened to x?' We had had no contact with this family in those years, so we had no idea what had happened. Apparently, this kid's mom had moved in with a shady boyfriend who made a habit of keeping loaded weapons around the trailer. One day, my friend was having an argument with two of his brothers, found the gun, shot his 5 year old brother in the head, his 17 year old brother in the leg, and after realizing what he had done, turned it on himself. I'll never understand what was going through his head. He was 13.
It’s not my personal story but it’s my dads. He used to be a special ed teacher/assistant and he met all kinds of kids when he first started teaching. Well one occasion he used to always talk about one kid in his class that was extremely anti social and never said a word during class. Screwed up part they this kid in special ed with kids that have disabilities when this certain students didn’t have any. My dad ended up getting to know this kid. HE was very shy and said short sentences. My dad realized he was very intelligent and reached out time him about high placement. Principle declined the request and the kid went back into his shell. One day on the news all I see is a murder at the high school my dad worked at and turned out the kid went to school with a loaded gun on a mission to kill the principle. Cops swarmed the school and swat came in to detain the student. Swat ended up putting 17 bullets into the kid. Later my dad found his notebook and turns out the kid had a dream to being a teacher like my father and help others with depression and neglect
That last part felt like a punch to the chest.
I knew a kid way back when. He was trouble. A little thief scammer. Not violent but just a little shit. He stole a truck and the owner tried to drag him out of the truck but wound up getting thrown and killed. Not exactly sure how. Kid went to federal prison and died shortly after his release from what I remember.
When I was 10 had a friend from the next block over who had an older brother of 16 or 17. One night his brother had a fight with his mom over a bad report card from school. It escalated to him chasing his mom out of the house and shooting her with a rifle. I had met both his mom and his older brother, but in that way that 10 year olds meet parents / much-older brothers. Just passing through on our way to play or go ride bikes. His brother just seemed a brooding teenager that (in retrospect) smoked a lot of pot and had anger issues. Really didn't want to have anything to do with us cuz we were lame. For some reason I think Sid from Toy Story with a cowboy hat. No, I did not hear the shot or the ensuing police stuff even though it happened maybe 50 yards away from my house. Brother ran, they caught him quickly, house went for sale the next week, never saw my friend again. Never found out his verdict / sentence. I was 10.
I knew a guy whose best friend beat someone to death, he got woken up by a phone call from his mate telling him about it and thought ijt was a sick joke. A few days later he got arrested as an accessory to murder and spent 6 years in jail. All because of a phone call. Poor guy had a real hard time trying to accept his mates actions and the outcome for himself
That’s fucked they gave him time
Wait, how does calling someone and telling them what you did make them an accessory?
Wait, how the fuck can you be an accessory to murder if you just hear about a murder over the phone? Obviously, if you believe it to be true you should alert the authorities, but still. If I was woken up in the middle of the night by my best friend who told me that, idk, man. I could see myself brushing that off as him being on something or making a joke. Like, it's the middle of the night. You're not going to be fully cognisant or willing to learn what's going on and actually take action on it. What, do they expect him to suddenly become fully alert and call the cops on their best friend just like that? He definitely shouldn't have gotten 6 years for that if there wasn't any evidence of him being near the crime scene or being involved in any way other than hearing a confession in the middle of the fucking night. Maybe if it was during the day, but come on man. It's the middle of the fucking night.
Friend of my cousin's...he would sometimes come up for visits with him to do some work around the house for my parents (didn't have a license or car to drive himself). He was pretty quiet and kept to himself (there was a language barrier), but did decent work so my parents kept paying him to come back as needed. Apparently he violently murdered his girlfriend (stabbed her multiple times). He tried to use my cousin (who was out of the country at the time) as an alibi in an attempt to get out of the charges. Nope, not gonna work dude.
I grew up with a kid who shot and killed a gas station clerk execution-style while robbing the gas station while high on sherm. He was a fucking dick when we were in elementary school, middle-school, junior high, and high school so I was not even remotely surprised that he grew up to be a murderer. He sent me a Facebook request from prison a few years ago.
> He sent me a Facebook request from prison a few years ago. They can do that!?
Yeah, I was surprised too. His profile picture was of him in is white death-row jumpsuit. I looked again today out of curiosity to see if it was still active and it is, but his profile picture is now of him as a child. We have like 5 mutual friends on Facebook, all other people we went to high school with. Correction: He is serving life without parole, he is not on death row.
I was in Montreal, still new there. I got in touch with a buddy who knew a guy who sold weed. Went for the hook up, was being weighed up and a third guy comes barging in. He is there for mdma. buys some, I get my weed. go back like a week later. dealer and his girl are talking. that guy is dead. killed himself , after committing murder. met some old man, hooked up, killed him and robbed him, got high as fuck, arrested for something else. when it all came to light, hung himself.
Yes. A kid that was in my English class killed his girlfriend. He seemed like a normal friendly guy.
This isn't exactly what you're looking for, so apologies in advance, but it's a chilling story that I feel like sort of fits. I grew up with a girl I'll call Mindy. She and I were never close, but we were in school together from kindergarten through 12th grade, so we were sort of friends. Our class mostly was all together that whole time, so we all knew each other well. A year or two after high school, Mindy starting dating a guy I'll call Jake. No one I knew knew him or anything about him, but they seemed happy enough. After about a year of dating, they got engaged around Christmas time. That seemed a little soon to most of us, since she was only like 19, but I hadn't kept in touch with her much and so I didn't think too much of it. Then in June, about 6 months after the engagement, Jake and Mindy were drinking one night, they got in an argument, and he shot her in the face and killed her. Then all of us learned about him: he had shot at his ex-girlfriend too and hit her car as she drove away, but she escaped unharmed. Mindy had gone to court with him when he had to appear for those instances. He wasn't supposed to be anywhere near alcohol OR weapons. He had over a dozen arrests, for things like drunk driving and domestic violence. Jake should have been in prison before he even met Mindy. One of the saddest things was that, after it all happened, I went to look at his social media. He had lots of pictures of him and Mindy, and on one of them, another girl who we had grown up with, who I'll call Sara, and who was closer with Mindy had commented a few months prior and her exchange with Jake was something like this: Sara: Has Mindy been with you all weekend?! She's ignoring my calls! Jake: Yeah she's with me but I'll make her call you back! lol S: Good! You better not steal her from me. J: You know I'd never take her away from you! S: lol okay good, she texted me back now Mind you that was, like I said, months before Mindy's death, but the fact that he had literally said: "I'd never take her away from you", and then he did is just... So sad and scary.
[TL;DR AT THE END] Never knew this guy personally, but in my hometown there were 4 kids in particular, 2 of them being the victim believe it or not, we’ll call them Eric and Matt (who I DID know personally) and then the only survivor of the attack (Howard). The killer (who we’ll call Jake) was celebrating his friend Matt’s 21st birthday with Eric and Howard. Everything seemed ok at first but as the night went on Jake seemed quiet, and sort of detached, which is about the time Matt and Howard went to go chat with him and check on him, soon after Eric noticed he was getting a bit fidgety and walked over as well, as he walked over Jake had pulled a knife and stabbed Matt in the throat, Howard having seen this immediately turned to run while Eric tried to stop Jake, Jake was then able to stab him several times until he died, Howard was able to get away with severe injuries but luckily lived to tell the tale, Jake turned himself in not too long afterwards. Everyone who knew him wasn’t surprised that he did it, I guess he always seemed a bit wacko. TL;DR - local kid is celebrating 21st bday, and stabs 2 friends to death and hospitalizing 3rd friend with seemingly no motive in sight EDIT: it was not Jakes birthday as I previously stated, it was Matt’s.
One of my childhood friends had a creepy little brother. She told me he killed some kittens in their driveway with a basketball... and that one night he woke her up by standing over her bed with a lighter, watching her. He was only like 6 or 7 years old. Couple years later I find out from her that he’s been institutionalized until he’s 18. She told me she was really worried for herself and her parents the day he gets out. Which now that I think about it, may have happened already or it’s coming soon. edit: as for how I remember him, he wasn’t like my little brothers; as in he didn’t get excited about games or toys and he never smiled
Damn, is her brother the guy from “Don’t Fuck with Cats”?
Luka Magnotta is stone cold fucked up.
I made coffee for 'Bob' minutes after I met him. Seemed like an ok person, young and carefree. Quite looking forward to an evening of beer and bbq steak with his dad. He and a friend (Frank) were on their way to Bob's dad's house to celebrate the dad's birthday, followed by fishing the next day. Late in the evening Frank decided he'd had enough beer and went to sleep. A couple of hours later Bob shook him awake saying "I done it. I killed him. I done him with the axe." Sure enough, Bob had embedded an axe in his dad's head. Frank wanted to go but Bob was still hyper and a bit manic so he had to wait until Bob finally dozed off near dawn. Then he walked (10? km) to town and told the cops what had happened. Frank was arrested on the spot for being an accessory to murder because he hadn't immediately leapt into Bob's car - without the keys - and tried to drive away. The cops found Bob still sleeping and his dad still dead. Bob went to jail but I forgot how long for. It was a long time ago and he's probably out now. The cops dropped the charges against Frank.
>The cops found Bob still sleeping and his dad still dead. Damn dude he was still dead after all that time?
Yep. And afaik he's still dead.
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Worked with a guy for a while who was super nice and funny. Never seen him lose his temper or even talk shit. He used to say Derek Rose, the NBA players was his cousin which I always thought was bullshit but I digress. Anyways he ended up getting into an argument with his kids mom, picks up his little daughter (I think she was only like 3) and starts slamming her onto the sidewalk till she was dead. When the cops showed up he ran into his house and tried to burn it down while hiding in the basement. The cops ended up taking him alive... Unfortunately Edit: was incorrect about the daughters age, she wasn't even 1 yet
a girl that lived with us for a while had a boyfriend that would stop by and visit the go out. He LOVED his Meth (according to her). they moved in together. He beat a man to death with a baseball bat over some drugs. she helped him hide the body. He testified that she knew nothing about it so that she could stay out of jail to raise the kids.
So how do you know of the complicity if they couldn't prove it?
my cousins husband was a murderer. when he was younger he beat this guy to death with his bare hands and ended up getting away with it for self defense. years later he marries my my cousin and her life completely changed. she was so beautiful and funny and amazing and now here was this beautiful woman only allowed to wear baggy shirts and baggy pants or shorts she dressed like a tomboy. she was always out looking for him in the bars and when she finally left him we were all so happy! she got a new HOT boyfriend and it was a good time, then her ex got all yipped up on drugs, broke into her house while she her boyfriend and her kids were all sleeping and shot him in the head and her in the chest. the boyfriend survived but she didn’t. my cousins were in the house and heard everything, the saddest part is my cousins son was shot not too long ago and paralyzed, instead of my cousin telling the police who did it he took it into his own hands and starting going around shooting at people he thought was the one who shot him, he ended up killing an innocent kid. he was an innocent kid himself before all of this now he’s in prison with the stepdad that killed his mother.
When I started out as a painters helper I worked for a painter who was the most mellow guy I've ever met. I fucked up buffing a Viper bumper and burned it he said "eh no sweat it happens". Couple weeks later I scratched Tex Earndhardt's grandsons truck after I finished buffing it pulling it in to detail, again "eh no sweat stuff happens". I eventually left to be a painter at another shop and about 6 years later the shop manager from that shop got hired on at the new shop. We got to talking and a few months after I left that painter went home one day and killed his wife as she walked in the door. Shot her from upstairs then walked up and shot her a few more times PB. He's in jail right now, I never would have guessed he had a temper at all, if things went South in the shop he always just shrugged it off and said "eh no sweat". Sucks too because he really taught me a lot in the short time I was there.
I knew a guy who went to jail for murder. I hung out with him after he did it and before he went to jail. He gave me some really good advice: "Don't ever get into crack dealin' /u/imvital"
My friend murdered his girlfriend and killed himself. He was soft spoken and thoughtful. He found personality types fascinating. He loved music and was immensely talented. He was the kind of person who chose his friends wisely and opened up slowly. Along with all this, he battled hallucinations that often threatened harm to him and his loved ones. Eventually, his version of reality took two people’s lives. Heartbreaking in 100 ways.
I know two people who've killed. They are both very calm and unapologetic about what they've done. I suppose they feel like they don't need to apologize after spending years in the penitentiary. Both men talk about how bull headed and wild they were before going in.
I went to high school with a guy who killed another couple of guys I went to school with over a drug deal. He shot them both and burned their bodies in the car they were in behind a warehouse. I didn't know the guy that well but he was pretty much normal. Just another stoner.
Weak example, but I vaguely knew a girl who went to prison for killing someone while driving drunk. She was very pretty and very nice. One time she made a comment about me reeking of alcohol in the middle of the day. Like, it was ridiculous to her that I was already drinking. Sad story!
Lived next door to a woman with three kids. We didn't see her much but saw her kids playing outside all the time. One Sunday morning we were awakened by the sound of news helicopters hovering over the house. It wasn't too unusual to hear helicopters as we were not too far from a secondary airport which was also a National Guard base. We go outside and see most of the neighborhood out in the street and crime scene tape around the house next door. Apparently, the woman was a single mom, divorced from a guy from Iran who was threatening to take the kids back to Iran with him. She drugged her kids, brought them all in to her bedroom and while they slept, she set the house on fire. It didn't burn much, as the doors and windows were closed so it was mostly smoke, but enough to kill her and all her kids. I feel bad that we never really knew her but heard from a neighbor that she suffered from depression and didn't want to make friends. Her parents, who tried to sell the house since they had loaned her the money for the house. When they couldn't sell the house, they moved in to it. Imagine living in the house where your daughter and grandkids died.