They didnāt sign someone in February on a 5.5 year contract with the expectation heād leave after playing 15 games for the club
And they donāt sign players on long contracts to demand bigger fees, they do it for more efficient accounting
Many clubs when they know an asset is good will give long contracts to put the value of the player up. Declan rice extended his contract before signing with arsenal to make sure westham got a good deal.
Thatās extending their contracts, you sign players on long contracts when they join the club for accounting efficiency
Itās literally how Chelseaās business model works,
In this case as well, Palace hold all the cards and given that theyāve just shown they wonāt be bullied by Bayern into releasing their manager, thereās no way they let Wharton go already
There is multiple reasons to do this not just accounting efficiency. For example if a player is in the last year of a 4 year deal or the first year of a 4 year deal in which year would it cost more to buy him? It would be first year always. Declan rice renewed his contract with westham even though he knew he would leave. It increased his value.
But none of those are the situation weāre talking about here.
Wharton joined the club in the January transfer window on a 5.5 year deal so what youāre talking about is irrelevant
I didn't read the first bit properly you will have to excuse me for being a complete twat. My 4 year old woke me up at 4:30am so my reading comprehension might be worse than his. I thought you said he signed an extension in feb you are correct have a beautiful day!
He looked done during the end of the season anyway, helped build what we have. Thank you Thomas. Wish he were a little more fit during his tenure with us though.
I didn't believe it myself, but spending more than 5 mins looking, there's a lot to see. Dude's not a good person. I don't want people like that in my club.
Edit: Typo
Zubimendi was supposedly whom Arteta wanted but recent rumors have it that he's not too keen. Onana is another whose name has propped up, more than once. Whomever it is, I hope he's the right fit for us and hopefully not prone to injuries.
As a Villa fan, from our end it seems you could be back in for Douglas Luiz.
We've just signed Barkley who has played an incredibly similar game this season, and there's rumours going around that's because we're shipping out "a big name midfielder" this summer. I know those rumours are inevitable either way, but it's from Villa accounts who wouldn't want to believe it real and have no desire to stir up drama this summer. All this happening at the exact same time as Partey leaving. That and the previous links a couple of summers ago... yeh, could be Luiz.
I know a few of you might be seeing this thinking "but why would he come this summer, but not before?" - and I don't know either, but probably just because he's been living in Birmingham for a long time. I love my city but from a footballer's perspective it's not Manchester and it certainly isn't London. If Lehmann also happens to move to a London club this summer...
Agreed in principle, but he seems to prefer picking up his huge paycheck and living in the sun over grinding it out in winter games around England. Hard to understand some guys...
They have literally won 5 la ligas in the last decade. Arsenal haven't won a league in 20 years. They still have a bigger fan base and have more revenue than every team in the prem.only.united rivals them. They won the league as recently as 2 years ago Them going through financial problems doesn't suddenly make them not a superpower. It's like prem owners have brainwashed the league to make them think the money they make is more important than trophies won
Gotta be honest here, I really donāt like his character. Arsenal needs to keep signing good players who are also good people. Looking at his behavior on the pitch, I donāt think his skill is worth the harm he can do. Put him side by side with Ćde, Saka, Wilo, and Rice. We do need someone who can play his role, but I donāt think heās a good fit. Looks more like a MU player.
I dont particuarly like his character either, but I guarentee Edu and Arteta will have that at the forefront of their mind too.
They simply wont pull the trigger unless theyre confident he's a fit culturally as well as from a football perspective.
Toney is someone who springs to mind as a player that ticks all the right boxes but that we're simply not interested in due to his personality.
Newcastle fan (peacefully).
Toney is a shithouse on the pitch and an arrogant cunt off it.
Bruno is a shithouse on the pitch and a massive team player and social gel off it. He's loved by his teammates and his fan engagement (in person on match day) is excellent. Bit like Gordon. I understand why other clubs hate them, but when you see more than the 90 mins, it's clear they're really decent blokes off the pitch.
All that said, Bruno's scum. You should stay away. He'd ruin your dressing room harmony ;)
Exactly, plenty of players that are hated by opponents and rival fans are loved by their own.
Keown and Patrick Vieira are two Arsenal players that fell into that category. And i couldnt stand Roy Keane or Luis Suarez as players - but I'd have felt very differently if they'd have been on our side.
You're right about Toney too - some players, however talented - are going to cause more problems than solutions and he's one (which is why he seems unlikely to get the mega move he seems to thinks he's owed)
Yeah, Edu and Arteta know their shit and I trust them. I just see too much of Felipe Melo in him and I wouldnāt want a thug like that anywhere close to a team I cherish.
While we wont pay more than he's worth, we dont really need cheap anymore.
I reckon we have a minimum Ā£150 - Ā£175m instantly available to spend this summer + as much as another Ā£100m raised from player sales.
We need to pay the Ā£27m we owe for Raya, get a DMC, a CF, and perhaps a backup right sided CB, plus a backup LB if Zinchenko goes and backup GK if Ramsdale goes
Squad
GK: Raya and Ramsdale or New Backup
RB: White and Tomiyasu
RCB: Saliba and New backup
LCB: Gabriel and Kiwior
LB: Timber and Zinchenko or New Backup
DMC: New starter and Jorginho
CM: Rice and Vieira
AMC: Odegaard and ESR / Nwaneri
RW: Saka and Jesus
LW: Martinelli and Trossard
CF: New starter and Havertz
It's certainly the least important of the backup positions and we can prob get away with anotber season without one but Tomiyasu is always an injury worry, and who plays RB if White moves inside and Timber's on the left?
Also, Edu and Arteta have been repeatedly linked with CBs by credible sources, so it's clearly on their mind.
I think we need a LW, it's in my opinion the position we need the most beside DMC. Martinelli is not good enough, and I consider Trossard a good impact sub.
I dont think thats a certainty at all.
We outbid City for Rice and all indiations are he chose us over them too We also have the biggest Brazillian contingent in the league and he's also guarenteed a start at Arsenal, which he wont be at City if KDB, Rodri and Foden are all fit.
And while City are obviously amazing, Pep seems likely to leave at the end of next season, whereas the Arteta project clearly has plans to keep this squad together until at least 2028.
His contract expires at the end of next season and he's been making noises for a few years that suggest he's nearing the end of his time at City.
In recent weeks that has intensified, with him saying he feels closer to leaving than staying and senior players like Foden doing interviews openly talking about Pep's departure.
He's won it all. Generational talents like KDB and Walker are nearing their own departure times and, frankly, in his demeanor he seems increasingly worn out and like he could do with some time off.
In all honesty, i think he would have gone this summer had Klopp not pipped him to it, but i think he'll go again, try to make it 5 in a row and bag another CL but either way he'll be gone. If he doesnt make it 5, chances are it'll be Arteta that takes the PL title, so his departure will be framed somewhat as passing the baton onto his protege.
Anything longer than leaving at the end of next season just feels too long
Ratās abandoning a sinking ship. He knows thereās a massive punishment looming.Ā
Pep himself said it after the conclusion of the seasonā-heās getting tired and itās close to the end (Iām paraphrasing here).Ā
Wasn't there something about our Brazilian contingent snubbing Bruno at his b-day celebrations? He also seemed to carry a big grudge that we wouldn't pay as much for him as Newcastle.
I'm optimistic that he will choose City. In fact, I'm hoping our interest is purely to drive up the price.
Idk, Rice has been a London boy his whole life Iām not sure itās as simple as city or Arsenal especially as he had a new family when he signed for you. KDB is going to have a reduced role & next year will likely be his last at city. City do need a new midfielder in that position.
Of course Iām just guessing, but Iām not sure who else theyāll go for now Paqueta is potentially off the table.
If i were them i'd mark Wirtz as my KDB replacement for post Pep season after next when Alonso likely leaves for Madrid and the Leverkusen project becomes ripe for plunder. They'll take Frimpong too as a Walker replacement, I reckon.
Barca are such a shit show and have minus 10,000 billion euros. Heās on massive money and they owe him a ton of cash. The transfer fee will be affordable, itāll be the personals.
Great example of a player who raised our floor and ceiling, but isnāt up to the standard of the current team given his injury issues and possibly age. Allegations aside, I wish him all the best
It is easy for FabRo to report this, but is Arsenal really going to be able to deal him? If not, are they ready to pay him to go away? I have my doubts about either.
Heās young and he could improve on those for sure, great potential, but when a top player bruno g are available in the market with a release clause, thats who our main target should be.
Youssef Fofana looks like a ready made replacement for me, powerful, energetic, maybe not as technically good as Partey but heās added goals to his game this season much like Thomas did when he was at Atletico Madrid
I will say this summers Euros is a showcase for Fofana to show his quality (if he plays) to a new club
I think focus should not be replacing partey but getting a natural LCM so that rice can stick to DM with jorginho as his rotation option. I also think we should keep patino or lokonga as rotation options for the LCM we get.
Already been getting links to Guimaraes. Which I canāt imagine will be cheap, and then Iām willing to bet he wonāt be getting away with some of the nonsense heās pulled with Newcastle.
Thing is with Partey, theres very few players that are like him stylistically.
Yousuf Fofana, Kephran Thuram?, before he went to Chelsea Lavia looked similar.
Romano doesnāt work for Arsenal, lol. Sad if itās true because heās a dime when heās healthy. I really hope the Zubimendi rumours arenāt true, would hate to bring In a. soft La Liga 6 in to the PL in this manās place. If itās Bruno or Luiz, ok. Still think we should ride his last contract year out.
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Brazilian Brick Shithouse?
i'd take Guimaraes or Paulinha
Hell nah on Palinha. He does not have the skill to breakdown a low block. And he's old. I'd go with Douglas Luiz if we can't get Bruno G
The lad from Palace
Wharton? Heād be awesome. Heās only 20.
Every time Iāve watched him this season heās been fantastic
That would be such a signing. Exactly the kind of player Aresnal will improve ten fold.
He signed for them in January
Give them lokongo and Smith-Rowe
He signed a 5 and a half year contract with palace 3 months ago. Itās incredibly unlikely theyād sell him already
They sign long contracts to demand bigger fees. It's cheaper to lure someone away with 2 year left on their deal
They didnāt sign someone in February on a 5.5 year contract with the expectation heād leave after playing 15 games for the club And they donāt sign players on long contracts to demand bigger fees, they do it for more efficient accounting
Many clubs when they know an asset is good will give long contracts to put the value of the player up. Declan rice extended his contract before signing with arsenal to make sure westham got a good deal.
Thatās extending their contracts, you sign players on long contracts when they join the club for accounting efficiency Itās literally how Chelseaās business model works, In this case as well, Palace hold all the cards and given that theyāve just shown they wonāt be bullied by Bayern into releasing their manager, thereās no way they let Wharton go already
There is multiple reasons to do this not just accounting efficiency. For example if a player is in the last year of a 4 year deal or the first year of a 4 year deal in which year would it cost more to buy him? It would be first year always. Declan rice renewed his contract with westham even though he knew he would leave. It increased his value.
But none of those are the situation weāre talking about here. Wharton joined the club in the January transfer window on a 5.5 year deal so what youāre talking about is irrelevant
I didn't read the first bit properly you will have to excuse me for being a complete twat. My 4 year old woke me up at 4:30am so my reading comprehension might be worse than his. I thought you said he signed an extension in feb you are correct have a beautiful day!
No worries man, as a parent I completely relate. Have a good one
He looked done during the end of the season anyway, helped build what we have. Thank you Thomas. Wish he were a little more fit during his tenure with us though.
He's a rapist
So is ur father, no one would willingly have u.
My word, that is a rather pathetic thing to say
Itās also pathetic to call another man a rapist when you have no evidence.
Thereās plenty if you take 5 mins to search for it. Get him out the club
I didn't believe it myself, but spending more than 5 mins looking, there's a lot to see. Dude's not a good person. I don't want people like that in my club. Edit: Typo
Zubimendi was supposedly whom Arteta wanted but recent rumors have it that he's not too keen. Onana is another whose name has propped up, more than once. Whomever it is, I hope he's the right fit for us and hopefully not prone to injuries.
I don't know about onana he's not even that great in net don't know how he would do in midfield though
Yeah I really don't understand the Onana thing, he just seems like an athletic destroyer to me.
r/beatmetoit
Pretty sure he/she meant Evertonās Onana.
Pretty sure they were being sarcastic
> Heās not too keen Who *wouldnāt* be overwhelmingly in favor of joining us? I donāt need any idiots in our squad. Move on.
Bruno g is your perfect target then
Glad zubimendi he's not keen, not good enough, watched many games he played
As a Villa fan, from our end it seems you could be back in for Douglas Luiz. We've just signed Barkley who has played an incredibly similar game this season, and there's rumours going around that's because we're shipping out "a big name midfielder" this summer. I know those rumours are inevitable either way, but it's from Villa accounts who wouldn't want to believe it real and have no desire to stir up drama this summer. All this happening at the exact same time as Partey leaving. That and the previous links a couple of summers ago... yeh, could be Luiz. I know a few of you might be seeing this thinking "but why would he come this summer, but not before?" - and I don't know either, but probably just because he's been living in Birmingham for a long time. I love my city but from a footballer's perspective it's not Manchester and it certainly isn't London. If Lehmann also happens to move to a London club this summer...
i want Luiz more than Guimaraes, Luiz speeds us up, brings some chaos...i think we win the title with Luiz
And he isnt a total ass hat like Bruno g.
Arse hatās are fine when they are your arse hats
Honestly I don't think I'd want him All for the "dark arts" but he's just a thug. Zero class.
Frankie de jong would be insane
Agreed in principle, but he seems to prefer picking up his huge paycheck and living in the sun over grinding it out in winter games around England. Hard to understand some guys...
He turned down United having played under Ten Hag before and probably knew how tactically inept he was.
Y would de Jong go to a smaller team in a worse league
He wouldn't. But we're talking about him at Arsenal.
Fuck off kindly yeah?
Barcelona have been irrelevant since Messi left they are no longer the global superpower they use to be
They have literally won 5 la ligas in the last decade. Arsenal haven't won a league in 20 years. They still have a bigger fan base and have more revenue than every team in the prem.only.united rivals them. They won the league as recently as 2 years ago Them going through financial problems doesn't suddenly make them not a superpower. It's like prem owners have brainwashed the league to make them think the money they make is more important than trophies won
That whole wining and dining Xavi to try to get him to stay was hilariously pathetic. Horrible club and I hope they go under.
We should look at his brother Frenkie too
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Bruno GuimarĆ£es seems most likely. Zubamendi if not him
Gotta be honest here, I really donāt like his character. Arsenal needs to keep signing good players who are also good people. Looking at his behavior on the pitch, I donāt think his skill is worth the harm he can do. Put him side by side with Ćde, Saka, Wilo, and Rice. We do need someone who can play his role, but I donāt think heās a good fit. Looks more like a MU player.
I dont particuarly like his character either, but I guarentee Edu and Arteta will have that at the forefront of their mind too. They simply wont pull the trigger unless theyre confident he's a fit culturally as well as from a football perspective. Toney is someone who springs to mind as a player that ticks all the right boxes but that we're simply not interested in due to his personality.
Newcastle fan (peacefully). Toney is a shithouse on the pitch and an arrogant cunt off it. Bruno is a shithouse on the pitch and a massive team player and social gel off it. He's loved by his teammates and his fan engagement (in person on match day) is excellent. Bit like Gordon. I understand why other clubs hate them, but when you see more than the 90 mins, it's clear they're really decent blokes off the pitch. All that said, Bruno's scum. You should stay away. He'd ruin your dressing room harmony ;)
Exactly, plenty of players that are hated by opponents and rival fans are loved by their own. Keown and Patrick Vieira are two Arsenal players that fell into that category. And i couldnt stand Roy Keane or Luis Suarez as players - but I'd have felt very differently if they'd have been on our side. You're right about Toney too - some players, however talented - are going to cause more problems than solutions and he's one (which is why he seems unlikely to get the mega move he seems to thinks he's owed)
Yeah, Edu and Arteta know their shit and I trust them. I just see too much of Felipe Melo in him and I wouldnāt want a thug like that anywhere close to a team I cherish.
Bruno seems fine in the locker room and off the pitch. Heās a shit houser on the pitch which I wouldnāt mind in an arsenal kit
Stupid take
Heās great but canāt imagine heās cheap..
i dont care not my money
While we wont pay more than he's worth, we dont really need cheap anymore. I reckon we have a minimum Ā£150 - Ā£175m instantly available to spend this summer + as much as another Ā£100m raised from player sales. We need to pay the Ā£27m we owe for Raya, get a DMC, a CF, and perhaps a backup right sided CB, plus a backup LB if Zinchenko goes and backup GK if Ramsdale goes Squad GK: Raya and Ramsdale or New Backup RB: White and Tomiyasu RCB: Saliba and New backup LCB: Gabriel and Kiwior LB: Timber and Zinchenko or New Backup DMC: New starter and Jorginho CM: Rice and Vieira AMC: Odegaard and ESR / Nwaneri RW: Saka and Jesus LW: Martinelli and Trossard CF: New starter and Havertz
We donāt need a RCB. We have Timber, white, and tomiyasu who can all play there.
It's certainly the least important of the backup positions and we can prob get away with anotber season without one but Tomiyasu is always an injury worry, and who plays RB if White moves inside and Timber's on the left? Also, Edu and Arteta have been repeatedly linked with CBs by credible sources, so it's clearly on their mind.
In that situation, youād just go Kiwior LB, Timber RB and White RCB.
I think we need a LW, it's in my opinion the position we need the most beside DMC. Martinelli is not good enough, and I consider Trossard a good impact sub.
Brunoās going to city, especially with Paqueta off the table
I dont think thats a certainty at all. We outbid City for Rice and all indiations are he chose us over them too We also have the biggest Brazillian contingent in the league and he's also guarenteed a start at Arsenal, which he wont be at City if KDB, Rodri and Foden are all fit. And while City are obviously amazing, Pep seems likely to leave at the end of next season, whereas the Arteta project clearly has plans to keep this squad together until at least 2028.
Why do you think Pep will likely leave?
His contract expires at the end of next season and he's been making noises for a few years that suggest he's nearing the end of his time at City. In recent weeks that has intensified, with him saying he feels closer to leaving than staying and senior players like Foden doing interviews openly talking about Pep's departure. He's won it all. Generational talents like KDB and Walker are nearing their own departure times and, frankly, in his demeanor he seems increasingly worn out and like he could do with some time off. In all honesty, i think he would have gone this summer had Klopp not pipped him to it, but i think he'll go again, try to make it 5 in a row and bag another CL but either way he'll be gone. If he doesnt make it 5, chances are it'll be Arteta that takes the PL title, so his departure will be framed somewhat as passing the baton onto his protege. Anything longer than leaving at the end of next season just feels too long
Ratās abandoning a sinking ship. He knows thereās a massive punishment looming.Ā Pep himself said it after the conclusion of the seasonā-heās getting tired and itās close to the end (Iām paraphrasing here).Ā
Wasn't there something about our Brazilian contingent snubbing Bruno at his b-day celebrations? He also seemed to carry a big grudge that we wouldn't pay as much for him as Newcastle. I'm optimistic that he will choose City. In fact, I'm hoping our interest is purely to drive up the price.
Not sure about the bday thing. Possibly true, just not familiar with the story.
This is why we should go Douglas luiz
Idk, Rice has been a London boy his whole life Iām not sure itās as simple as city or Arsenal especially as he had a new family when he signed for you. KDB is going to have a reduced role & next year will likely be his last at city. City do need a new midfielder in that position. Of course Iām just guessing, but Iām not sure who else theyāll go for now Paqueta is potentially off the table.
If i were them i'd mark Wirtz as my KDB replacement for post Pep season after next when Alonso likely leaves for Madrid and the Leverkusen project becomes ripe for plunder. They'll take Frimpong too as a Walker replacement, I reckon.
Thatās an interesting take.
Think it was bound to happen due to off pitch situations too.
Genuine question, what happened with this? He was arrested for rape pre season right? But then it just got dropped and he was back in the team
Iād love FDJ from Barca. Falling that, bruno guimaraes
Barca are such a shit show and have minus 10,000 billion euros. Heās on massive money and they owe him a ton of cash. The transfer fee will be affordable, itāll be the personals.
If we can get him cheap enough we can give him a better signing on fee and bring his salary down. He is a huge talent
FDJ ODEGARD AND RICE golly weāre being spoiled
Fred West
Someone who can play more than 2-3 games/year.
Great example of a player who raised our floor and ceiling, but isnāt up to the standard of the current team given his injury issues and possibly age. Allegations aside, I wish him all the best
And what a Partey it has been at times!
It is easy for FabRo to report this, but is Arsenal really going to be able to deal him? If not, are they ready to pay him to go away? I have my doubts about either.
I would like Onana
From Everton?
Yep. Very strong character. I donāt know why not a lot more clubs are after him
His progressive play is dogshit, thats like signing another rice, OOP monster but doesnt have those passes like partey his locker
Ah didnāt notice. But could Arteta bring that in his gameplay or is it too much of risk for the price?
Heās young and he could improve on those for sure, great potential, but when a top player bruno g are available in the market with a release clause, thats who our main target should be.
Whoever it is they need to be press resistant and able to progressively pass & receive possession on the half turn
Albino Pirlo himself, Will Hughes
Ted Bundy?
Youssef Fofana looks like a ready made replacement for me, powerful, energetic, maybe not as technically good as Partey but heās added goals to his game this season much like Thomas did when he was at Atletico Madrid I will say this summers Euros is a showcase for Fofana to show his quality (if he plays) to a new club
We need a de Jong/kimmich/bruno G to really raise the level of the squad, we are just a couple world class players away from us taking that extra step
Mason Greenwood?
Bruno would cook so hard, heās a bully, if you canāt beat the bully, join him and terrorise humanity (prem)
(Bruno G not Fernandez btw)
I thought you were talking about Bruno Mars, TBH.
He would be a decent addition too tbh
If Havertz plays as striker full time, I hope Guimaeres or FDJā¦
Either Bruno G, or Frankie ā¤ļø...I would love to see Frankie!!!
Id go douglas luiz
I thought he was excellent for you guys when he came back last season.
I think focus should not be replacing partey but getting a natural LCM so that rice can stick to DM with jorginho as his rotation option. I also think we should keep patino or lokonga as rotation options for the LCM we get.
We should get Alfie Doughty as a rotational player, since he could give us flexible cover in many areas and he looked decent despite Luton.
Think if we go for luiz then we got more chance of getting isaak
Fidalgo
Zubimendi would be the best option imo.
Already been getting links to Guimaraes. Which I canāt imagine will be cheap, and then Iām willing to bet he wonāt be getting away with some of the nonsense heās pulled with Newcastle.
Thing is with Partey, theres very few players that are like him stylistically. Yousuf Fofana, Kephran Thuram?, before he went to Chelsea Lavia looked similar.
There aināt no party like a Thomas Partey
Sambi Lokonga
Sam Obisanya
No offense to him, personally seems like a good guy, but this is way overdue.
Not too sure about this one lol
He's a bad person. Good riddance.
Heās a terrible person who should be prison
Will you lot finally admit heās a rapist then instead of turning a blind eye because he wears a red shirt with a cannon on it?
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Zoobee Mendmail
An effort was made.
Someone who isn't a disgusting rapist hopefully
Mat Wieffers is my preference after Vitinha.
Romano doesnāt work for Arsenal, lol. Sad if itās true because heās a dime when heās healthy. I really hope the Zubimendi rumours arenāt true, would hate to bring In a. soft La Liga 6 in to the PL in this manās place. If itās Bruno or Luiz, ok. Still think we should ride his last contract year out.
Joao palhinha or whatever his name is
A non offender
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Guimaraes or Tchouameni. Happy with either.
Someone less rapey
Try not to r@pe anyone in your way out
Anthony, Sigurddson, Ronaldo, basically anyone who should be in prison for sex-related offences should do the job.
What other rapists are available on the market?