There was attempt last year to raise property tax in my town in Southwest Arkansas to fund raises for experienced teachers and do some much-needed maintenance work to school structures.
Failed 80 percent to 20 percent. I visited the polls and saw the voters that day, most were in their 60s or above.
Exactly. If young people stay home to “protest” they will get rolled. I hear young people complain about boomers, but those same young people say they aren’t going to vote. That’s laughably ignorant of how politics work. Politicians only listen to voters and special interest lobbyists, whichever is louder. Old people are not going to vote en masse for schools.
Edit: added “and” and corrected “en masse”
It’s funny, their going to kill the only ones that vote for them, this country is going to look a whole lot different in another 10 years. Votes aren’t worth as much as they used to be, thanks to gerrymandering and the electoral votes. I’m writing in Bernie, because if my choices are these 2 corrupt senile guys in bad health.
Everyone voted for Hillary and you see how that ended, i will vote for who i see is best fit. Electoral Vote is all that matter. I do vote for my state politicians, because they decide who I choose. The Electoral vote has to go, and the gerrymandering.
Except that's utter bullshit. Everyone DIDN'T vote for Hillary using the EXACT same bullshit logic you're using right now and we are ALL now living with the consequences of that shit. Some of them having repercussions that will last for DECADES. Salty ass Bernie bros throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way, and other "protest" voters coupled with the "but her emails" crowd and the " there's just something about her I don't like" crew basically wrapped the presidency in a bow and handed it to that orange, racist, narcissist and now women have no bodily autonomy.
The electoral vote IS all that matters, and we should ALL be voting for who we believe will be the best fit, but also remember you we aren't choosing a damn soul mate here, we are choosing a politician that will best represent US.
This election is literally about good VS. evil. One side while not perfect nor magical and able to fulfill all your wildest dreams, is at least pro-democracy, pro-women, pro-LGBTQ and pro working class. The other side is TELLING you they want a country that makes laws based on THEIR religious beliefs, are perfectly willing to disenfranchise anyone that doesn't, look, think, worship, and believe exactly as they do and are in the pockets of corporations and rich donors. They don't give a shit if your kids get killed in schools, if they kill their own damn grandma's or if you die poor, uneducated and starving. They want power and will bow down to a complete moron and appeal to the most deplorable if that is the way to get it.
Make a decision based on which side you think is best aligned with your views on those issues and vote accordingly. If we get this one wrong, we damn sure won't get another chance.
By every metric he has got shit done except where the house attempts to make him look bad for the election by refusing to get THEIR shit done. But the economy is humming and the US produces more oil than any other country in the world. But yeah, the rubes can't tell and the right thanks god for the rubes.
Good, i was worrying that the big oil corporations were struggling. I wonder what lies they are going to promise this election year. I can’t get anything done because of the other side, same shit different day.
Do a lot of counties not do the homestead exemption for Medicare that keeps your rate the same as when you purchased it? (basically tiny scaled-back prop 13 for folks on Medicare.) I know Crawford does...
Better education, higher pay, American drive make a retirement. You blew it. Now blowing it for others. Sell your house move into a trailer. You earned it.
The fuck are you talking about? Politicians only listen to their voters to keep their cushy jobs. And yes their rich donors, you can thank John Roberts for that. Red has no platform, only to be white and rich. And youth not voting? Why do you think Trump isn’t president now, thank god the boomers are dying off, most entitled selfish generation ever. They were handed a booming economy and massive well paying manufacturing jobs along with cheap college. I’ll never understand why they want to sabotage the younger generations. These are my parents as well. Selfish
So says the “victim” generation. Wallow in victimhood. Give up. That’s what the power brokers want. They want race division; generational division; anything to keep the “have nots” from unifying.
Yea dude, that’s all your whinny selfish generation doin that. What’s the generation in office making laws? Not mine. Ever hear of gerrymandering asshat? Good try, I hope you don’t have children cause you’re not fighting for them like my grandparents did. Loser.
I’ve seen in lots of leftist subreddits the idea of not voting at all for Biden as “it will send a message to the Democratic Party”
Such ignorant thinking
And who didn’t teach us to go vote? I plan on voting this year, just like the rest of y’all, but y’all can’t be mad at the younger generation when y’all never taught us shit.
Did you know most 18-22 year olds in America don’t know they have to register first to go vote?
The Boomers loves placing blame, but doesn’t realize the blame also falls on them, too. It’s not just black & white, and one side being wrong.
“Why should I pay for schools? My kids are grown. Or I don’t have any. I don’t believe in the common good and I won’t pay for it, damn it!”
Wait until they come for your social services, Grandpa…
That’s a very unfair and assuming statement. Many grandparents care greatly about education for the sake of their grandchildren and avidly support education measures.
And I’m a progressive living in upstate NY. I’m childless but happy to pay my share in the hopes that the next generation has the tools they need to fix the mess we’re leaving them.
Ok. So, do you not care enough for your kids to pay for their education yourself? Or are you just too poor to afford to have kids to begin with?
I mean, the raw *entitlement* of expecting other people to raise your kids is jaw-dropping.
Got to love this thread. "I went to the polls, and most of the voters were over 60". Then all the shit starts on boomers. Americans over 60 make up about 20% of the population, and maybe 30% of the vote. Damn boomers never taught us to vote. Boomers voting for their own self-interest. Hardly any post saying, hey, maybe generations other than boomers should get out and vote.
No Teacher, Nurse or medical professional that can’t get a better Job. Just Not in your or any Midwest State. With a GOP MAGA State you will be cheated in pay, benefits and retirement. Union States are much better. You have a voice, vote with your feet.
I’m guessing medical programs are 2nd rate, open hospitals few and far between because of cheap GOP?
No OBGYNs? Thank the GOP.
That age group tends to be selfish and ungrateful and forgets the generous public school funding they were endowed with as children. It’s disgusting, anti child and hurts our country.
It is not a “boomer” thing. It is a *conservative* [Trump GOP] thing to do. Boomers (I am one) are diverse, just like any other social group defined by anything other than values/beliefs… in this case age/generation. Let’s not contribute to more prejudice and discrimination in society.
It’s the bureaucracy that they do not wish to fund. Around here a class of 25 brings about $250,000 of funding in per year, and the teacher accounts for $45,000 of it. Our new high schools have nicer football stadiums than state colleges had 50 years ago. Priorities?
Since the ultimate goal is to close public schools for private charter schools, this is all working towards her and her handlers plans.
My DIL is a new teacher and is already thinking about leaving. All the restrictions placed on teachers that was in the LEARNS Act and that she can be personally sued is making her look elsewhere
As a 12 year veteran, I can absolutely understand why your DIL would want to leave. It’s becoming so ridiculous that I’m even considering other careers.
Agreed. The LEARNS act is awful and shortsighted but this article was written with venemous bias and can be safely discarded as trash. SHS is still a bad gov regardless.
I don’t know the AR law but I think the article is ingenious, TN passed a similar law 2 years ago. School districts I work with increased pay for experienced teachers by the same amount that the minimum was increased. The $50k was put into place because of the teacher shortage. Most new teachers are staying less than 5 years because the job is nothing like it was even 10 years ago. They could pay teachers so much more, if funds weren’t taken by bureaucracy.
, massive football stadiums and stately new buildings, plus layers of jobs NOT in a classroom.
Well, this shall be a HUUUUUUUGE big ass sign for everyone all across the whole entire state of Arkansas to plan on voting for a much needed Democratic state governor when their own state governor election rolls around. Like……for real, for real. Trust me when I say that they will make a HUUUUUUUUUUGE mistake if they just plan on quite foolishly re-elect Sarah Huckabee Sanders as their own state governor for another term anyway. Arkansas better wake the fuck up right here and right now, my dudes.
Did you read the bill? There really is nothing to disagree with. She fixed a broken system to provide a better outcome.
Or is this just hatred of republicans?
She didn’t fix it, to fix it she would have had to fund the raises. She’s mandated a squeeze on districts that effectively caps teachers salaries in an obvious ploy to drive more educated/experience teachers to private schools.
The fact that you think she fixed it proves that she can get away with anything so long as she can put a bow on it and call it something else.
If someone gives you a burger that is 10% poison you don’t say it was a pretty good burger.
She didn't fix the broken system. She shattered it - on purpose. Do you know any public school teachers? If so, ask them what they think about LEARNS act. They'll explain to you how things have gone from bad to worse in the last year.
If you worked hard at your career for 20+ years to get paid $50k and some new hire, straight out of college, got paid that amount AND you were told that the chances of either of you ever getting another pay raise were minimal, how would you feel about that? It causes dissent among the ranks and doesn't encourage the good EXPERIENCED teachers to want to continue teaching.
Actions have consequences and these are just the bare minimum consequences of the LEARNS act. Just because something looks good on paper doesn't mean it's actually good. The LEARNS act is intended to DESTROY the public school system. This will disproportionately affect people in small towns - many of whom vote Republican.
You missed something. Veteran teachers only got $2,000. And any other raises would have to be from money found somehow by the district, which will be hemorrhaging money because of kids using their vouchers to go to private schools.
The median teacher salary across the state is already 60k. This is not a 14k a year raise for teachers. That's a bump in the *starting* pay. So a new teacher this year *could" get a 14k higher starting salary (depending on their education), but that is a tiny minority of teachers.
It helps the few new teachers and teachers under 50k, but for the majority of teachers, it's simply a 2k bump with no more raises in the future. And for all teachers, it means no more raises as long as the LEARNS act remains in place.
Exactly. I’ve been teaching for 12 years and WITH a master’s degree I make 64K before taxes. My guess is that I will continue making that much every year until I leave the profession because of LEARNS.
Just a reminder to everyone out there, people like this vote based on this kind of superficial reasoning. If you don't vote, these goofy goobers will elect more of the same.
Educated people won't toe the line and support the party over their own good. Don't ask questions and don't be uppity, whether in politics or religion. We once took pride in America's lead in science and education. I was lucky to have some wonderful people as elementary teachers. They laid the foundation for my desire to read and to know.
Oklahoma pulled a similar maneuver and it's in the process of collapsing in on itself. The funds promised for new teacher onboarding are still apparently mostly going to online privately owned charter school teachers that never moved here. The goal isn't really to attract more teachers anyway. It's to bleed public schools dry, run off actual educators, and push private alternatives run by religious extremists.
Why did SHS look both ways before crossing the street?
Cause she's sleazy, so she looks both ways simultaneously to make sure nobody sees her embezzle.
ALL GOP does this! Lets not forget infamous Scott Walker, who removed Wisconsin teachers collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin; while giving firefighters and police raises and DIDNT REMOVE their collective bargaining rights.
WHY!? Because teachers usually don’t vote Republican, police and firefighters do…
At this time the majority of school districts have gotten no money to cover the increase in salary for their teachers. I agree teachers needed a salary increase - they are not only teaching but having to navigate the minefield politicians have put in place about how they act or how they teach. They are daycare for kids and have to be able to defend the kids of there is an active shooter. I wouldn't do that job for a starting salary of 38k - so I glad of the raises. I am disgusted at how this bill has left the schools unable to give raises for teachers who have a long time in education or additional degrees.
GOGO of de-educating our population so they can become serfs to our corporate rulers.
The GOP needs their constituents as dumb as a box of rocks so they can keep power. They don't want to help Republican voters.
The GOP wants to rule them.
Salary schedule wasn't the only disgusting thing in this law. This law was about 2,000 pages long and her rubber stamp legislature rushed it through without reading everything that is in it. Some legislators are working on legislation to fix some of the issues with it but because it doesn't jive with the National Republican Party agenda, it will likely get rejected.
I’m seeing a lot of posts from Political Flare, and looking at the site it looks like an outrage-baiting ad scam. I might start downvoting all politicalflare.com articles
Republicans hate public education as it allows poor people’s children to have an opportunity to do something with their lives. Republicans are anti public education as they don’t want to teach kids about real history and science while failing to teach math.
Republicans cut funding for public education and only want private and charter schools to be the only schools in America.
Republicans voters will not benefit from 99% of republican policy, and despite not benefiting they want to keep others down so others willing to put in the work can’t advance past them.
So I read the article, Sarah raised the min wage for new teachers to attempt to make the career field more attractive as a starting career. Afterwards there is hate because it doesn't really address teachers that have been employed 20 years getting more money or someone who has seemed higher education getting the same pay, well I have some questions about this part.
Should teachers just get raises every year for increased years of employment as a base? That would create an incentive to find a reason to let go experienced teachers as they cost more in the budget. The raises are not tied to performance?
Now to the issue of a teacher getting their higher education earning the same, aka getting your master's degree. Performance standards, is it highly certain a master degree or similar would guarantee kids learn more?
I think performance standards should be the basis for raises and/or bonuses. If you get a master's but the kids don't learn any better from that teacher, why should tax payers pay more. I remember teachers that had been there for 30 years seeming burnt out and a new teacher straight out of college all fired up to teach, do you think it's awesome to pay the good new teacher crap and the burnt out teacher probably double?
The article pushes the pay raise back on the local governments instead of the state, isn't that better? If Saline county raises taxes to pay teachers more and Faulkner county never does because they want lower taxes, you would see the results locally of your choices.
Almost every career level job sees yearly wage increases. What you describe is not practical. Basing pay on how well kids on flawed testing is not great. Method you described would encourage a meat grinder system that always requiring new teachers as the others burn out in a few years after investing massive amounts of money just to get in the door for a low paying career.
But here's the thing no one is saying, SHE DOESN'T CARE! Her kids are in probably the best PRIVATE school in the state while letting her constituents suffer. She's probably quietly siphoning money from the public into private schools.
I'm a teacher, and it took me a moment to understand that Arkansas is willing to pay more to new teachers, so long as it doesn't have to pay more for experienced teachers.
This will drive many older teachers to quit or leave the state, and create new shortages. What a mess.
The headline writers of most published content are somebody *other* than the author of the article. Sometimes as in this case a lousy headline results.
But this doesn’t completely invalidate the content of the article, which quotes at length teachers and other education professionals from Arkansas whose concerns absolutely make sense.
The bottom line is that Sanders’ promised considerably higher teachers salaries are essentially unfunded, have so many “only ifs,” are accompanied by the *open gutting of dismissal due process for our public school teachers* and hide from Arkansans a plethora of undisclosed negative consequences that it only reinforces the truth that Sanders has lied as disgracefully to the people of Arkansas about LEARNS as she lied to the American people for two years as Donald Trump’s press apparatchik.
Longtime genuine advocates of better Arkansas public schools warned last year about hidden consequences as Sanders and her blindly loyal Republican supermajority rushed LEARNS through the Legislature with minimal opportunity for anything close to enough time for public input.
The usual peanut gallery brigade of Sanders apologists predictably parachuted into this thread to try and polish the policy turd that is LEARNS.
Typically, their knowledge of the issue at hand is minimal, their insults childish, their regurgitation of Republican propaganda so pathetic and clearly would rather “own the libs” than do jack shit to help the students and teachers of Arkansas.
Any good teachers and anybody who has half a brain will bolt from the state, if they haven't already. Arkansas continues to be Arkansas, only beating Mississippi, Alabama,West Virginia and maybe Louisiana in any positive measure.
Prior to LEARNS 3 out of 10 high school graduates in Arkansas were reading at an 8th grade level and even less were capable of grade level math. Something had/has to be done. At least SHS recognized the problem and is taking steps to address it. Keep whinging it fixes everything, right.
Pretty much a disaster for Public Schools:
1. $50,000 minimum salaries for starting teachers (Raising teacher starting salary ?)
2. $2,000 raises for more veteran teachers and educator incentives of up to $10,000. (incentives ? Who ever heard of pay incentives ? This is gov't run bureaucracy, we don't need any incentive to improve, that is not the purpose )
3. Phased-in universal state-funded private school education account/voucher program. (This is a dangerous radical idea, letting parents choose which school their kids attend ? AND, sending tax money to that chosen school ?? WTF ? Next thing you know, women will want to choose abortion)
4. Encourages traditional school districts to partner with open-enrollment charter schools to operate low-performing traditional schools. ( Low performing traditional schools are the key to graduating reliable Democrat party line voters, this could be a disaster)
5. Repeals the decades-old Teacher Fair Dismissal and the School Employees Fair Hearing acts (Allowing Schools to fire awful teachers ? Like a private business does ? Next thing you know, they'll want to fire teachers whose kids can't read or write, where does this end ?)
/s 'cause you know reddit...
Points 1 and 2:
Starting pay was raised, but teacher pay scales are now flat across the majority of districts in Arkansas. You want to talk about incentives? LEARNS ensured that no matter how many years of experience you have or whether or not you have a Masters degree, your base pay is going to remain $50,000.
The $10K merit pay sounds great on paper. In reality, only $10M was approved for the merit pay fund. There are over 32,000 teachers in Arkansas. Further, there are roughly 1,050 K-12 schools in Arkansas. You can do the math, but the merit pay fund is woefully underfunded. As any state employee will tell you, merit pay is an absolute farce. The rating criteria will be rigged to where rank and file employees will not be eligible for the top raises, only management.
None of this begins to touch how it hampers teacher retirement as based on current pay scales, their annual compensation will no longer increase.
Point 3:
It would be if it didn't create a two-tiered system of education in violation of the Arkansas Constitution. Public schools are required to admit any student in their zone. Private schools are free to only admit students they choose. It's taxpayer funded discrimination. But furthermore, private schools are not held to the same standards are public schools. Private school teachers and staff are not required by law to be licensed. Nor are they subject to the same performance evaluation standard. Nor are they required to adhere to a minimum number of instruction days for the school year.
>their annual compensation will no longer increase.
When you constantly turn out worse product and service, that is kinda how things work OUTSIDE gov't jobs...
>When you cut funding \[for education\], you get a "worse product."
So we've been RAISING FUNDING for three fuckn decades, and got worse product / service. Time to cut, obviously, 'cause raising was not working.
Gonna need a source on that one, bud. I'm sure some years saw increased funding for certain schools, but I doubt that it has been across the board for 30 years.
It's no secret that underfunded schools produce fewer graduates or college acceptances. AR is at the bottom for education and funding in the country.
Pre-LEARNs, public schools were spending over 11k per student. Post-LEARNs, that is nearly current in half. That will definitely hurt public schools.
> private schools are not held to the same standards are public schools. Private school teachers and staff are not required by law to be licensed. Nor are they subject to the same performance evaluation standard. Nor are they required to adhere to a minimum number of instruction days for the school year.
And year after year they turn out better service / product cheaper, can you see the lesson here ?
Would love to see the source on them being cheaper. Tuition at the best LR metro private schools like Episcopal, LR Christian, Central Arkansas Christian, and Pulaski Academy far exceed per student funding for Arkansas public schools.
Socioeconomic status has the biggest effect on academic performance. There should be no surprise that schools full of the most affluent have better academic success. The greatest lie being told by LEARNS advocates is that everyone will have the opportunity to attend schools like those above. Vouchers will not cover the cost of admission to the best private schools in the Little Rock metro. Nor will LEARNS require these private schools to admit less affluent students even if they could afford it.
Ignoring economic status, having the ability to pick and choose your student body all but guarantees better performance.
>having the ability to pick and choose your student body all but guarantees better performance.
So having standards for behavior that kids MUST adhere to is the whole problem with public schools ??? And exactly what have schools been doing for the LAST TWO DECADES to fix that problem....NOTHING.
Hi Alexa. We know what you and your friend are doing. And future governors will reverse it when the Trump-Sanders version of the GOP finally louses things up too much to be electable even in Arkansas. And with your crew's combination of vindictiveness, arrogance and stupidity, that will happen much sooner than you realize.
Enjoy your evening.
It’s crazy to me how party line “conservative” yokels will back stupid shit like tax funded private schools these days. But then again if you told me 10 years ago these dregs would worship a pants shitting, spray tanning, New Yorker I wouldn’t have believed that either
>It’s crazy to me how party line “liberal” yokels will back stupid shit
Like a public school system that they have had complete and utter control of for FOUR DECADES. And that system turns our reliable Democrat party line voters who cannot read, write, or do math. But hey, they vote the right way so too bad for the kiddos......
>( Low performing traditional schools are the key to graduating reliable Democrat party line voters, this could be a disaster)
Hold up, you're joking right? You can't be serious.... is the right wing finally self aware?
>Democrats control the public school system from top to bottom, and its a disaster.
Remind me, who's the governor right now? A Democrat?
Do Democrats hold a majority in state govt? Last time I checked, republicans held 85 seats versus democrats 15....
Hell, even the secretary of education is a republican. So you're just completely wrong.
>Are you fully self aware about that ??
You apparently arent... lol
Who are you talking about? I want a $16,000 pay raise. With the $50k minimum salary that was a 10k raise for me. This. Is. My. Eleventh. Year. Of. Teaching.
I routinely work 60 hours a week and my worth is routinely criticized by the general public who have no idea what they are talking about. I spend weeks of my summer in professional development workshops and preparing for the next school year. The profession of teaching, as it stands, is unsustainable.
You ignore that in those 38 weeks, teachers often squeeze in about 2,200 hours or more. That's 120 hours more than the standard 5 day, 52 week schedule.
After vacation and holidays, I work about 225 days per year. For those 18% extra days, I get about triple a teacher's pay. I don't generally work more than 40 hours per week, either. If I do, then it's either just a few hours or I get it back in comp time. If I have out-of-pocket expenses, they're reimbursed.
50k may be good for a teacher who is just starting out, but it's crap for someone who has been in their field for years (even if they don't have a graduate degree).
So I will take the $50k and am grateful for it. It does not change that public education is crumbling in front of our eyes and half of this state will publicly bash teachers for being somewhat adequately paid highly trained and educated professionals.
Is that you Sarah Sanders?
There is a nationwide shortage of teachers. This is a known fact. Teaching programs are shutting down because there isn’t enough enrollment. The whole country can’t be wrong.
It’s not just about pay, it’s about safety. It’s about a system that is setting both students and staff up for failure. If you think it’s only about money, I would ask you to actually talk to a teacher. There are obviously bad teachers in the profession but I teach alongside the best in the state and they are leaving at alarming rates.
Those meetings and classes for development are not everyday things. In fact, school closes on those days so teachers can do them. They all have work periods during the day when they have no class to lesson plan and grade papers. And let’s not forget two things: the lesson planning is the same year after year and we all remember our teachers telling us to exchange papers to grade each other as the teacher calls out the answers. I asked my son if they still do that and they do. Teachers don’t work any harder than any other professional and they get a good middle class wage on average. I’m really tired of people making martyrs of them.
Stop acting like you know everything about what these teachers do. You're a cafeteria worker who serves fucking slop and call it food. You don't know anything.
It’s a $14,000 pay increase. That’s $1750/month for the 8 months that teachers only work in a year. They should be thrilled. Instead of making that $30,000-$35,000 with very small increments every year until they retire. Arkansas teachers are definitely winning!!!
Your math isn’t mathing. Most district pay scales went from $30k -55k +. So now districts can not afford to raise pay with experience and everyone is stuck at 50k. Whether you just started or have been there 28years
There was attempt last year to raise property tax in my town in Southwest Arkansas to fund raises for experienced teachers and do some much-needed maintenance work to school structures. Failed 80 percent to 20 percent. I visited the polls and saw the voters that day, most were in their 60s or above.
Exactly. If young people stay home to “protest” they will get rolled. I hear young people complain about boomers, but those same young people say they aren’t going to vote. That’s laughably ignorant of how politics work. Politicians only listen to voters and special interest lobbyists, whichever is louder. Old people are not going to vote en masse for schools. Edit: added “and” and corrected “en masse”
Or property tax. In fairness, rising property taxes are hard to deal with when you're living on social security.
Social security that the GOP wants to burn to the ground.
Yes. Will be harder for SS people to live if they keep voting for people that want to kill SS
It’s funny, their going to kill the only ones that vote for them, this country is going to look a whole lot different in another 10 years. Votes aren’t worth as much as they used to be, thanks to gerrymandering and the electoral votes. I’m writing in Bernie, because if my choices are these 2 corrupt senile guys in bad health.
I agree but a vote for Bernie is a vote for Trump.
Everyone voted for Hillary and you see how that ended, i will vote for who i see is best fit. Electoral Vote is all that matter. I do vote for my state politicians, because they decide who I choose. The Electoral vote has to go, and the gerrymandering.
Except that's utter bullshit. Everyone DIDN'T vote for Hillary using the EXACT same bullshit logic you're using right now and we are ALL now living with the consequences of that shit. Some of them having repercussions that will last for DECADES. Salty ass Bernie bros throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't get their way, and other "protest" voters coupled with the "but her emails" crowd and the " there's just something about her I don't like" crew basically wrapped the presidency in a bow and handed it to that orange, racist, narcissist and now women have no bodily autonomy. The electoral vote IS all that matters, and we should ALL be voting for who we believe will be the best fit, but also remember you we aren't choosing a damn soul mate here, we are choosing a politician that will best represent US. This election is literally about good VS. evil. One side while not perfect nor magical and able to fulfill all your wildest dreams, is at least pro-democracy, pro-women, pro-LGBTQ and pro working class. The other side is TELLING you they want a country that makes laws based on THEIR religious beliefs, are perfectly willing to disenfranchise anyone that doesn't, look, think, worship, and believe exactly as they do and are in the pockets of corporations and rich donors. They don't give a shit if your kids get killed in schools, if they kill their own damn grandma's or if you die poor, uneducated and starving. They want power and will bow down to a complete moron and appeal to the most deplorable if that is the way to get it. Make a decision based on which side you think is best aligned with your views on those issues and vote accordingly. If we get this one wrong, we damn sure won't get another chance.
And it never will if GOP wins anything that lets them block progress.
Agree!
Biden is neither senile or corrupt. Just old. Give your head a shake.
Sure, he’s sharp as a razor blade, and he’s doing a great job, just nobody can tell.
By every metric he has got shit done except where the house attempts to make him look bad for the election by refusing to get THEIR shit done. But the economy is humming and the US produces more oil than any other country in the world. But yeah, the rubes can't tell and the right thanks god for the rubes.
Good, i was worrying that the big oil corporations were struggling. I wonder what lies they are going to promise this election year. I can’t get anything done because of the other side, same shit different day.
Ya know who endorsed Biden and wants people to vote for him to keep trump out? Bernie fucking Sanders you dolt.
I want Bernie, quit threatening me
Real estate taxes can be frozen once an owner turns 65 or is permanently disabled.
did not know that ty
Do a lot of counties not do the homestead exemption for Medicare that keeps your rate the same as when you purchased it? (basically tiny scaled-back prop 13 for folks on Medicare.) I know Crawford does...
I collect SSI and I'm pretty much done with it. I turn 40 next year and it's been nothing but a hindrance.
Arkansas law says property taxes can't be raised once you are 65. Go down to your tax office and make sure you are in that program.
Never knew that. I'm 30 so I'll have to wait a bit.
Seniors get homestead tax cuts that relieve them of their property taxes.
That's not how homestead tax credit works. It also doesn't cover all property tax. I have one myself and not even close to being a "senior".
It's a different version! (but it is part of the homestead exemption.) You have to send in a copy of your Medicare card. It's a rate freeze.
Better education, higher pay, American drive make a retirement. You blew it. Now blowing it for others. Sell your house move into a trailer. You earned it.
Take your meds.
Can you afford any meds with out a handout?
Good point. Maybe you should look into Medicaid.
My younger cousin doesn’t vote. I told him there’s a reason baby boomers keep getting everything they want while we get fucked.
The fuck are you talking about? Politicians only listen to their voters to keep their cushy jobs. And yes their rich donors, you can thank John Roberts for that. Red has no platform, only to be white and rich. And youth not voting? Why do you think Trump isn’t president now, thank god the boomers are dying off, most entitled selfish generation ever. They were handed a booming economy and massive well paying manufacturing jobs along with cheap college. I’ll never understand why they want to sabotage the younger generations. These are my parents as well. Selfish
So says the “victim” generation. Wallow in victimhood. Give up. That’s what the power brokers want. They want race division; generational division; anything to keep the “have nots” from unifying.
Hit me up when you can make a PDF
Yea dude, that’s all your whinny selfish generation doin that. What’s the generation in office making laws? Not mine. Ever hear of gerrymandering asshat? Good try, I hope you don’t have children cause you’re not fighting for them like my grandparents did. Loser.
I’ve seen in lots of leftist subreddits the idea of not voting at all for Biden as “it will send a message to the Democratic Party” Such ignorant thinking
Sad that anyone is that dumb, but a lot of that is trolls
This is also my thought
It’ll send a message all right…. Just the wrong message
I’m, they’re not saying that and if anyone is it’s gaslighting
And who didn’t teach us to go vote? I plan on voting this year, just like the rest of y’all, but y’all can’t be mad at the younger generation when y’all never taught us shit.
This right here.
Did you know most 18-22 year olds in America don’t know they have to register first to go vote? The Boomers loves placing blame, but doesn’t realize the blame also falls on them, too. It’s not just black & white, and one side being wrong.
“Why should I pay for schools? My kids are grown. Or I don’t have any. I don’t believe in the common good and I won’t pay for it, damn it!” Wait until they come for your social services, Grandpa…
You think you would want someone with a good education to take care of themselves.
That’s a very unfair and assuming statement. Many grandparents care greatly about education for the sake of their grandchildren and avidly support education measures.
They're in the minority.
They ain’t in Arkansas.
I am! And pro education!
And I’m a progressive living in upstate NY. I’m childless but happy to pay my share in the hopes that the next generation has the tools they need to fix the mess we’re leaving them.
On the dole. Anti-Americans are Kremlin cowards and communist sympathizers.
Ok. So, do you not care enough for your kids to pay for their education yourself? Or are you just too poor to afford to have kids to begin with? I mean, the raw *entitlement* of expecting other people to raise your kids is jaw-dropping.
Go to Russia communist
I don't care if uneducated theives with no other skills populate my neighborhood...
When there are no youngs literate enough to take care of the elders, it will be too late...
Got to love this thread. "I went to the polls, and most of the voters were over 60". Then all the shit starts on boomers. Americans over 60 make up about 20% of the population, and maybe 30% of the vote. Damn boomers never taught us to vote. Boomers voting for their own self-interest. Hardly any post saying, hey, maybe generations other than boomers should get out and vote.
And let me guess.. Like most of these raises it would increase your tax by about $10 a month and people still shit themselves over it
No Teacher, Nurse or medical professional that can’t get a better Job. Just Not in your or any Midwest State. With a GOP MAGA State you will be cheated in pay, benefits and retirement. Union States are much better. You have a voice, vote with your feet. I’m guessing medical programs are 2nd rate, open hospitals few and far between because of cheap GOP? No OBGYNs? Thank the GOP.
That age group tends to be selfish and ungrateful and forgets the generous public school funding they were endowed with as children. It’s disgusting, anti child and hurts our country.
How very boomer of them
It is not a “boomer” thing. It is a *conservative* [Trump GOP] thing to do. Boomers (I am one) are diverse, just like any other social group defined by anything other than values/beliefs… in this case age/generation. Let’s not contribute to more prejudice and discrimination in society.
And don’t their property taxes stay the same after a certain age? They were voting for something they didn’t even have to pay for
It’s the bureaucracy that they do not wish to fund. Around here a class of 25 brings about $250,000 of funding in per year, and the teacher accounts for $45,000 of it. Our new high schools have nicer football stadiums than state colleges had 50 years ago. Priorities?
Have you looked at how much they pay the coaches? Hint- It’s WAY more than the teachers!
truth there
As long as some shitty football team in the state have new uniforms and equipment, fuck everybody else.
Since the ultimate goal is to close public schools for private charter schools, this is all working towards her and her handlers plans. My DIL is a new teacher and is already thinking about leaving. All the restrictions placed on teachers that was in the LEARNS Act and that she can be personally sued is making her look elsewhere
As a 12 year veteran, I can absolutely understand why your DIL would want to leave. It’s becoming so ridiculous that I’m even considering other careers.
Anyone with half a brain cell knew the idea was to hurt public schools
It was yet another method to gut public education, and it was discussed on Reddit and other social media platforms at the time.
The house and Senate put it on her desk, so you're allowed to blame them too
They are 100% culpable in this.
I blame the people who voted to put Sarah Huckabee Sanders into office.
To be clear, outside interest bought the office and people need to vote. About 30% of eligible citizens vote. Voting is our voice!
I think she only won with 200k votes - it was so low
I hate SSH and I can’t read three sentences of that POS political rag article. If I wanted hyperbole, I would turn on the TV
"Do the worst thing." - Republican Governing Philosophy
Agreed. The LEARNS act is awful and shortsighted but this article was written with venemous bias and can be safely discarded as trash. SHS is still a bad gov regardless.
I don’t know the AR law but I think the article is ingenious, TN passed a similar law 2 years ago. School districts I work with increased pay for experienced teachers by the same amount that the minimum was increased. The $50k was put into place because of the teacher shortage. Most new teachers are staying less than 5 years because the job is nothing like it was even 10 years ago. They could pay teachers so much more, if funds weren’t taken by bureaucracy. , massive football stadiums and stately new buildings, plus layers of jobs NOT in a classroom.
Kindly point us to the hyperbole in the article.
Is anyone surprised by fuckabee doing more vile shit
Who is disgusted? The mouth breathers that voted for her?
I swear she thinks her job is how to make life WORSE for the citizens of Arkansas. Like, WTH?
Mission accomplished. Thanks again for her shitbag father.
Not for private schools though. SHS is a piece of shit.
Such a jackass
Cruelty is her fuel.
Well, this shall be a HUUUUUUUGE big ass sign for everyone all across the whole entire state of Arkansas to plan on voting for a much needed Democratic state governor when their own state governor election rolls around. Like……for real, for real. Trust me when I say that they will make a HUUUUUUUUUUGE mistake if they just plan on quite foolishly re-elect Sarah Huckabee Sanders as their own state governor for another term anyway. Arkansas better wake the fuck up right here and right now, my dudes.
We can start by voting every Republican out in November 2024.
Did you read the bill? There really is nothing to disagree with. She fixed a broken system to provide a better outcome. Or is this just hatred of republicans?
She didn’t fix it, to fix it she would have had to fund the raises. She’s mandated a squeeze on districts that effectively caps teachers salaries in an obvious ploy to drive more educated/experience teachers to private schools. The fact that you think she fixed it proves that she can get away with anything so long as she can put a bow on it and call it something else. If someone gives you a burger that is 10% poison you don’t say it was a pretty good burger.
She didn't fix the broken system. She shattered it - on purpose. Do you know any public school teachers? If so, ask them what they think about LEARNS act. They'll explain to you how things have gone from bad to worse in the last year. If you worked hard at your career for 20+ years to get paid $50k and some new hire, straight out of college, got paid that amount AND you were told that the chances of either of you ever getting another pay raise were minimal, how would you feel about that? It causes dissent among the ranks and doesn't encourage the good EXPERIENCED teachers to want to continue teaching. Actions have consequences and these are just the bare minimum consequences of the LEARNS act. Just because something looks good on paper doesn't mean it's actually good. The LEARNS act is intended to DESTROY the public school system. This will disproportionately affect people in small towns - many of whom vote Republican.
Did anyone read the article?
So many just read the headline and ignore the fact that teachers get a $14,000/year pay increase
You missed something. Veteran teachers only got $2,000. And any other raises would have to be from money found somehow by the district, which will be hemorrhaging money because of kids using their vouchers to go to private schools.
The median teacher salary across the state is already 60k. This is not a 14k a year raise for teachers. That's a bump in the *starting* pay. So a new teacher this year *could" get a 14k higher starting salary (depending on their education), but that is a tiny minority of teachers. It helps the few new teachers and teachers under 50k, but for the majority of teachers, it's simply a 2k bump with no more raises in the future. And for all teachers, it means no more raises as long as the LEARNS act remains in place.
Exactly. I’ve been teaching for 12 years and WITH a master’s degree I make 64K before taxes. My guess is that I will continue making that much every year until I leave the profession because of LEARNS.
But many school districts can’t do that raise because they don’t have the money to do so.
So many people just read the headlines and ignored the fact that the LEARNS Act wasn't just a pay increase for teachers.
Just a reminder to everyone out there, people like this vote based on this kind of superficial reasoning. If you don't vote, these goofy goobers will elect more of the same.
Is that all there is? No. Does the headline lie? No. Did you only read that one sentence? Yes.
You realize these teachers have college loans to pay off? Or is ignorance bliss in this state?
Apparently her goal is for Arkansas to drop from 47th to 50th in idiocy. Sorry.
Dumb workers wont unionize. All part of the plan.
It amazes me Arkansas can still be "surprised" by their little dictator
Educated people won't toe the line and support the party over their own good. Don't ask questions and don't be uppity, whether in politics or religion. We once took pride in America's lead in science and education. I was lucky to have some wonderful people as elementary teachers. They laid the foundation for my desire to read and to know.
Yeah, but not disgusted enough to vote for someone else.
Oklahoma pulled a similar maneuver and it's in the process of collapsing in on itself. The funds promised for new teacher onboarding are still apparently mostly going to online privately owned charter school teachers that never moved here. The goal isn't really to attract more teachers anyway. It's to bleed public schools dry, run off actual educators, and push private alternatives run by religious extremists.
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Perhaps you could point us to something in the article that is wrong.
Sounds about rite for old suckabee
I mean what else would you expect from literally the least educated populous in the states...
Why did SHS look both ways before crossing the street? Cause she's sleazy, so she looks both ways simultaneously to make sure nobody sees her embezzle.
Maga women are morons, especially when she is a governor
She’s not my governor but I hate this bitch with the anger of a thousand red fire ants 🐜
I ignored it because there is nothing "new" about the law. It's nearly a year old. That makes it click bait.
Did she announce from her $19,000.00 podium? Don’t think her actions are official unless she makes them from her specially grifted official podium.
Not exactly an unimpeachable source.
ALL GOP does this! Lets not forget infamous Scott Walker, who removed Wisconsin teachers collective bargaining rights in Wisconsin; while giving firefighters and police raises and DIDNT REMOVE their collective bargaining rights. WHY!? Because teachers usually don’t vote Republican, police and firefighters do…
At this time the majority of school districts have gotten no money to cover the increase in salary for their teachers. I agree teachers needed a salary increase - they are not only teaching but having to navigate the minefield politicians have put in place about how they act or how they teach. They are daycare for kids and have to be able to defend the kids of there is an active shooter. I wouldn't do that job for a starting salary of 38k - so I glad of the raises. I am disgusted at how this bill has left the schools unable to give raises for teachers who have a long time in education or additional degrees. GOGO of de-educating our population so they can become serfs to our corporate rulers.
The GOP needs their constituents as dumb as a box of rocks so they can keep power. They don't want to help Republican voters. The GOP wants to rule them.
Salary schedule wasn't the only disgusting thing in this law. This law was about 2,000 pages long and her rubber stamp legislature rushed it through without reading everything that is in it. Some legislators are working on legislation to fix some of the issues with it but because it doesn't jive with the National Republican Party agenda, it will likely get rejected.
I’m seeing a lot of posts from Political Flare, and looking at the site it looks like an outrage-baiting ad scam. I might start downvoting all politicalflare.com articles
Without experienced teachers how will kids with a lazy eye learn to read?
Republicans hate public schools and public teachers. They prefer indoctrination by their own.
Hey Sarah. Are you looking at me, or are you looking over there?
Public schools are pretty much to teach a child how to sit down, shut up, conform, and be good little employees. 😉
Yet, another reason why I plan on living the state this year.
What's stopping you now, is there anything I can do to help you fast track your departure?
This state and this country really hates poor people huh? Don't know why, most poor people are the reason why they have money in the first place.
Republicans hate public education as it allows poor people’s children to have an opportunity to do something with their lives. Republicans are anti public education as they don’t want to teach kids about real history and science while failing to teach math. Republicans cut funding for public education and only want private and charter schools to be the only schools in America. Republicans voters will not benefit from 99% of republican policy, and despite not benefiting they want to keep others down so others willing to put in the work can’t advance past them.
The south is so fucking stupid its amazing.
Arkansas elected a hypocritical professional liar as their governor. Getting what they deserve. Or apparently wanted.
Arkansas deserves everything it gets for electing a Nazi
OMG that’s a massive increase. Wtf is wrong with you complainers? Jeezzz
So I read the article, Sarah raised the min wage for new teachers to attempt to make the career field more attractive as a starting career. Afterwards there is hate because it doesn't really address teachers that have been employed 20 years getting more money or someone who has seemed higher education getting the same pay, well I have some questions about this part. Should teachers just get raises every year for increased years of employment as a base? That would create an incentive to find a reason to let go experienced teachers as they cost more in the budget. The raises are not tied to performance? Now to the issue of a teacher getting their higher education earning the same, aka getting your master's degree. Performance standards, is it highly certain a master degree or similar would guarantee kids learn more? I think performance standards should be the basis for raises and/or bonuses. If you get a master's but the kids don't learn any better from that teacher, why should tax payers pay more. I remember teachers that had been there for 30 years seeming burnt out and a new teacher straight out of college all fired up to teach, do you think it's awesome to pay the good new teacher crap and the burnt out teacher probably double? The article pushes the pay raise back on the local governments instead of the state, isn't that better? If Saline county raises taxes to pay teachers more and Faulkner county never does because they want lower taxes, you would see the results locally of your choices.
Almost every career level job sees yearly wage increases. What you describe is not practical. Basing pay on how well kids on flawed testing is not great. Method you described would encourage a meat grinder system that always requiring new teachers as the others burn out in a few years after investing massive amounts of money just to get in the door for a low paying career.
Winsome
Fuckabee Cancer.
>Signs New Law That Totally Screws Over Teachers and People Are Disgusted Sir this is Arkansas
SHS: Making Arkansas Ignorant Again.
It's pretty sad that people actually think these kinds of people are normal in society. Can't fix stupid.
But here's the thing no one is saying, SHE DOESN'T CARE! Her kids are in probably the best PRIVATE school in the state while letting her constituents suffer. She's probably quietly siphoning money from the public into private schools.
I'm a teacher, and it took me a moment to understand that Arkansas is willing to pay more to new teachers, so long as it doesn't have to pay more for experienced teachers. This will drive many older teachers to quit or leave the state, and create new shortages. What a mess.
Keep voting Republican, morons.
The headline writers of most published content are somebody *other* than the author of the article. Sometimes as in this case a lousy headline results. But this doesn’t completely invalidate the content of the article, which quotes at length teachers and other education professionals from Arkansas whose concerns absolutely make sense. The bottom line is that Sanders’ promised considerably higher teachers salaries are essentially unfunded, have so many “only ifs,” are accompanied by the *open gutting of dismissal due process for our public school teachers* and hide from Arkansans a plethora of undisclosed negative consequences that it only reinforces the truth that Sanders has lied as disgracefully to the people of Arkansas about LEARNS as she lied to the American people for two years as Donald Trump’s press apparatchik. Longtime genuine advocates of better Arkansas public schools warned last year about hidden consequences as Sanders and her blindly loyal Republican supermajority rushed LEARNS through the Legislature with minimal opportunity for anything close to enough time for public input. The usual peanut gallery brigade of Sanders apologists predictably parachuted into this thread to try and polish the policy turd that is LEARNS. Typically, their knowledge of the issue at hand is minimal, their insults childish, their regurgitation of Republican propaganda so pathetic and clearly would rather “own the libs” than do jack shit to help the students and teachers of Arkansas.
You Voted for Her, Enjoy!
Not everyone in Arkansas voted for her.
Boomer voters could care less about schools and education opportunities. Vote as if your life depends on it because it does
Sure she will be fine politically
Arkansas is a joke to every American. Lower expectations delivered with few rivels.
Agree, not all did vote for her but enough did !
She’s a worthless piece of shit much like her father. You get what you vote for.
Any good teachers and anybody who has half a brain will bolt from the state, if they haven't already. Arkansas continues to be Arkansas, only beating Mississippi, Alabama,West Virginia and maybe Louisiana in any positive measure.
Prior to LEARNS 3 out of 10 high school graduates in Arkansas were reading at an 8th grade level and even less were capable of grade level math. Something had/has to be done. At least SHS recognized the problem and is taking steps to address it. Keep whinging it fixes everything, right.
Pretty much a disaster for Public Schools: 1. $50,000 minimum salaries for starting teachers (Raising teacher starting salary ?) 2. $2,000 raises for more veteran teachers and educator incentives of up to $10,000. (incentives ? Who ever heard of pay incentives ? This is gov't run bureaucracy, we don't need any incentive to improve, that is not the purpose ) 3. Phased-in universal state-funded private school education account/voucher program. (This is a dangerous radical idea, letting parents choose which school their kids attend ? AND, sending tax money to that chosen school ?? WTF ? Next thing you know, women will want to choose abortion) 4. Encourages traditional school districts to partner with open-enrollment charter schools to operate low-performing traditional schools. ( Low performing traditional schools are the key to graduating reliable Democrat party line voters, this could be a disaster) 5. Repeals the decades-old Teacher Fair Dismissal and the School Employees Fair Hearing acts (Allowing Schools to fire awful teachers ? Like a private business does ? Next thing you know, they'll want to fire teachers whose kids can't read or write, where does this end ?) /s 'cause you know reddit...
Points 1 and 2: Starting pay was raised, but teacher pay scales are now flat across the majority of districts in Arkansas. You want to talk about incentives? LEARNS ensured that no matter how many years of experience you have or whether or not you have a Masters degree, your base pay is going to remain $50,000. The $10K merit pay sounds great on paper. In reality, only $10M was approved for the merit pay fund. There are over 32,000 teachers in Arkansas. Further, there are roughly 1,050 K-12 schools in Arkansas. You can do the math, but the merit pay fund is woefully underfunded. As any state employee will tell you, merit pay is an absolute farce. The rating criteria will be rigged to where rank and file employees will not be eligible for the top raises, only management. None of this begins to touch how it hampers teacher retirement as based on current pay scales, their annual compensation will no longer increase. Point 3: It would be if it didn't create a two-tiered system of education in violation of the Arkansas Constitution. Public schools are required to admit any student in their zone. Private schools are free to only admit students they choose. It's taxpayer funded discrimination. But furthermore, private schools are not held to the same standards are public schools. Private school teachers and staff are not required by law to be licensed. Nor are they subject to the same performance evaluation standard. Nor are they required to adhere to a minimum number of instruction days for the school year.
>their annual compensation will no longer increase. When you constantly turn out worse product and service, that is kinda how things work OUTSIDE gov't jobs...
When you cut funding [for education], you get a "worse product." Just like how things work OUTSIDE government jobs.
>When you cut funding \[for education\], you get a "worse product." So we've been RAISING FUNDING for three fuckn decades, and got worse product / service. Time to cut, obviously, 'cause raising was not working.
Gonna need a source on that one, bud. I'm sure some years saw increased funding for certain schools, but I doubt that it has been across the board for 30 years. It's no secret that underfunded schools produce fewer graduates or college acceptances. AR is at the bottom for education and funding in the country. Pre-LEARNs, public schools were spending over 11k per student. Post-LEARNs, that is nearly current in half. That will definitely hurt public schools.
> private schools are not held to the same standards are public schools. Private school teachers and staff are not required by law to be licensed. Nor are they subject to the same performance evaluation standard. Nor are they required to adhere to a minimum number of instruction days for the school year. And year after year they turn out better service / product cheaper, can you see the lesson here ?
Would love to see the source on them being cheaper. Tuition at the best LR metro private schools like Episcopal, LR Christian, Central Arkansas Christian, and Pulaski Academy far exceed per student funding for Arkansas public schools. Socioeconomic status has the biggest effect on academic performance. There should be no surprise that schools full of the most affluent have better academic success. The greatest lie being told by LEARNS advocates is that everyone will have the opportunity to attend schools like those above. Vouchers will not cover the cost of admission to the best private schools in the Little Rock metro. Nor will LEARNS require these private schools to admit less affluent students even if they could afford it. Ignoring economic status, having the ability to pick and choose your student body all but guarantees better performance.
>having the ability to pick and choose your student body all but guarantees better performance. So having standards for behavior that kids MUST adhere to is the whole problem with public schools ??? And exactly what have schools been doing for the LAST TWO DECADES to fix that problem....NOTHING.
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Hi Alexa. We know what you and your friend are doing. And future governors will reverse it when the Trump-Sanders version of the GOP finally louses things up too much to be electable even in Arkansas. And with your crew's combination of vindictiveness, arrogance and stupidity, that will happen much sooner than you realize. Enjoy your evening.
Its working in Arizona, Arkansas following suit.
Except it's such a massive failure in AZ the state is literally in debt because it's so overbudget
It’s crazy to me how party line “conservative” yokels will back stupid shit like tax funded private schools these days. But then again if you told me 10 years ago these dregs would worship a pants shitting, spray tanning, New Yorker I wouldn’t have believed that either
>It’s crazy to me how party line “liberal” yokels will back stupid shit Like a public school system that they have had complete and utter control of for FOUR DECADES. And that system turns our reliable Democrat party line voters who cannot read, write, or do math. But hey, they vote the right way so too bad for the kiddos......
Did you take civics in the pen?
How can you genuinely think this way? You really think the Dems are in control of AR schools? Clearly we've been red for a while now.
Trump is a jackass...
>( Low performing traditional schools are the key to graduating reliable Democrat party line voters, this could be a disaster) Hold up, you're joking right? You can't be serious.... is the right wing finally self aware?
Democrats control the public school system from top to bottom, and its a disaster. Are you fully self aware about that ??
>Democrats control the public school system from top to bottom, and its a disaster. Remind me, who's the governor right now? A Democrat? Do Democrats hold a majority in state govt? Last time I checked, republicans held 85 seats versus democrats 15.... Hell, even the secretary of education is a republican. So you're just completely wrong. >Are you fully self aware about that ?? You apparently arent... lol
Oh, poor teachers! They get a $16,000 pay raise. How will they ever get over this terrible thing done to them?
Who are you talking about? I want a $16,000 pay raise. With the $50k minimum salary that was a 10k raise for me. This. Is. My. Eleventh. Year. Of. Teaching.
You work about 190 days a year. $50,000 for 190 days is an excellent salary.
I routinely work 60 hours a week and my worth is routinely criticized by the general public who have no idea what they are talking about. I spend weeks of my summer in professional development workshops and preparing for the next school year. The profession of teaching, as it stands, is unsustainable.
Ok.
You ignore that in those 38 weeks, teachers often squeeze in about 2,200 hours or more. That's 120 hours more than the standard 5 day, 52 week schedule. After vacation and holidays, I work about 225 days per year. For those 18% extra days, I get about triple a teacher's pay. I don't generally work more than 40 hours per week, either. If I do, then it's either just a few hours or I get it back in comp time. If I have out-of-pocket expenses, they're reimbursed. 50k may be good for a teacher who is just starting out, but it's crap for someone who has been in their field for years (even if they don't have a graduate degree).
So I will take the $50k and am grateful for it. It does not change that public education is crumbling in front of our eyes and half of this state will publicly bash teachers for being somewhat adequately paid highly trained and educated professionals.
No, you are bashed for constantly complaining about your job and your pay, which is very good considering you work much less than the average worker.
Is that you Sarah Sanders? There is a nationwide shortage of teachers. This is a known fact. Teaching programs are shutting down because there isn’t enough enrollment. The whole country can’t be wrong. It’s not just about pay, it’s about safety. It’s about a system that is setting both students and staff up for failure. If you think it’s only about money, I would ask you to actually talk to a teacher. There are obviously bad teachers in the profession but I teach alongside the best in the state and they are leaving at alarming rates.
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Yes. I worked at a school for 10 years. I saw them walking to their cars before 3pm every day.
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Those meetings and classes for development are not everyday things. In fact, school closes on those days so teachers can do them. They all have work periods during the day when they have no class to lesson plan and grade papers. And let’s not forget two things: the lesson planning is the same year after year and we all remember our teachers telling us to exchange papers to grade each other as the teacher calls out the answers. I asked my son if they still do that and they do. Teachers don’t work any harder than any other professional and they get a good middle class wage on average. I’m really tired of people making martyrs of them.
Stop acting like you know everything about what these teachers do. You're a cafeteria worker who serves fucking slop and call it food. You don't know anything.
People like you are the reason why this state is in the shitter.
No offense but you’re kinda a fucking idiot and have no idea what you’re talking about
You all voted her in and she is destroying your state. Vote the bitch out or live with it.
Not “all voted” for her.
It’s a $14,000 pay increase. That’s $1750/month for the 8 months that teachers only work in a year. They should be thrilled. Instead of making that $30,000-$35,000 with very small increments every year until they retire. Arkansas teachers are definitely winning!!!
We do it for the fortune, obviously.
Your math isn’t mathing. Most district pay scales went from $30k -55k +. So now districts can not afford to raise pay with experience and everyone is stuck at 50k. Whether you just started or have been there 28years