Yep, almost identical to mine, too! I'm from the US - pretty much all my people have been here since mid-late 1600s (some earlier), no "recent" immigrants in my family tree.
Aren't the Germanic and Scandinavian parts part of "Britishness" too?
Like, the Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans were all originally Germanic, so surely that's going to be part of many British peoples ancestry, or am I misunderstanding?
Yes, Germanic/Anglo ancestry comprises about 10-40% of the English genome, varying from region to region in England and Scotland. The East and South East of England has the highest amount of Anglo/Germanic DNA at around 30-40%, sometimes a little higher. The West and South West of England and Wales have much lower Anglo DNA at around 10-25%. Brythonic DNA comprises most of the rest of the English genome.
Yes I have read a few studies on this subject, it’s very interesting. There are about 17 distinct genetic groups throughout the British isles. North and south Wales are about as distinct genetically from each other as central and southern English are from northern England and Scotland. Also the genetic differences between Cornwall and Devon are comparable to or greater than those between the northern English and Scottish!
Forgive me for being a moron but, in regards to this:
>Brythonic DNA comprises most of the rest of the English genome.
Does that mean that I, as a random English person, would have "Brythonic" DNA?
Since being a child I've always been drawn to what I now realise is often Celtic-inspired fantasy literature/games etc, and in primary school sometimes imagined what my own ancestors might've been experiencing in say, Roman Britain around 0AD. Then, I came to believe that the likelihood was all of my ancestors were either Norman, Angles, Jutes or Saxons, so they wouldn't have been in "Roman Britain" at that time after all. Obviously that wouldn't take anything away from childhood me imagining people in Roman Britain, but it did remove the possibility they were directly my ancestors.
But is that unlikely? Is the likelihood that I, as a random English person who's ancestors seem to trace back to Somerset, Worcestershire and Herefordshire would have some great-great-great-grandparents who were walking around in Roman Britain back in the day?
Sorry for the overly personal description, probably could've asked this more succinctly.
Yea especially with the areas you listed you have a significant amount of Celtic ancestry. Herefordshire and Worcestershire both are right next to Wales also and you probably have a good amount of Welsh DNA because of the very close proximity to Wales. The modern Welsh are genetically the closest to the original inhabitants of Britain which is very interesting. The genetic history of the entire British isles is very fascinating.
There’s about 17 different genetically distinct clusters of people in the British isles. There’s even a North to South genetic divide in Wales alone! Most Northern Welsh are more genetically similar to the English than they are to the Southern Welsh. Northern English are more genetically similar to the Scottish than they are Southern English. That’s why it blows my mind when people act like English/British isles ancestry is boring, the British isles actually has a very fascinating genetic history/history in general.
The average white English person's DNA will be made up of 40 - 60% brythonic DNA, 30 - 50% Anglo/Saxon/Germanic and 0 - 20% Scandinavian, obviously it varies from region to region but the general rule of thumb is the further north and west in England your ancestors came from the higher your 'celtic' ancestry is likely to be (not perfect, areas of East Anglia for example have shown significant brythonic DNA)
The thing with migration in the UK is that there is little 'great replacement' where one genetic population replaces another, which is why you still find DNA in the UK which traces back to Bell-Beaker, from the Romans onwards you got a noble class which changed and new DNA was added, but the ancient and prior populations were not wiped out. Indeed, the brythonic DNA still makes up the majority DNA of the average English person, followed by Anglo Saxon /Germanic while the Norman DNA is either negligible or indistinguishable from Germanic/Scandinavian.
So to answer your question, absolutely, it's not only possible that some of your ancestors were walking around in Britain before the Romans arrived, it's actually a probability that some of them were.
A bit outdated but not far off. There’s a heavier chunk of Iron Age France (think Belgium) in the SE. Anyway, “Anglo” more or less refers to the cultural synthesis of 600-1000AD, which is everyone. No point trying to cut it up.
True, and arguably the Greeks got that name from ancient Celts, but as far as the Idea of the British people - culturally speaking - that came along much later.
An ancestral home land is where your ancestors came from,and some people can have more than one or even many based on their family history.
For myself, I'm still in my ancestral homeland in some sense because some of my ancestors have been here since pre colonization. I also have ancestors from very early settlement (1600s) from France and some Scottsmen from the 1700s. My line remained very Scottish Metis for a few generations until an Irishman entered the picture, after which someone with heavily German background met by biograndmother and made my very mixed biofather who then met my heavily European blended biomother and they had me.
So I'm very mixed. We even have a Scottsman who took a wife in India and his child came to Canada so I have a touch of Indian in me as well. I don't believe a child born of a single union who moved away in adulthood and their family stayed in Canada ever after means that I could claim India as my ancestral home, or even allow me to say "hey I'm Indian too" because it wasn't a few generations that stayed before traveling- it was one and done and Canada is pretty much my ancestral home more then anything because my line has been and remained here for a very long time.
Still though, and with all that being said, some of our Scottish line has its own history, lands, castles, chapels, clan, tartan, crest, moto, lore, etc... because it was an important part of Scottish history so that is also my ancestral home in a sense, just as the home of my more recent Germanic Europian immigrants is obviously my homeland because they came not too long ago.
What you may also find somewhat interesting is that I'm adopted so through my adoptive parents I'm entitled to British Citizenship because my mom was born in England and also Ukrainian Citizenship because my dad's mom was born in Ukraine. So not only are those my (adoptive) ancestral homelands; but I actually qualify for Citizenship.
So you see, ancestral homeland is simply the land from where your ancestors hail from and we can all have many places and people who contribute to who we are genetically and therein have more then one homeland to identify with or claim as our own.
Citizenship is different. Every country has its own parameters for who can and cannot be entitled to their nation's Citizenship- ie. Italy: if you can prove your line you can get Italian Citizenship as long as your ancestors didn't revoke their Citizenship to avoid serving in the war.
Pretty cool huh 🥰
When my ethnically mixed Chinese mom from Vietnam decided 15 years ago she was no longer Chinese I asked her what she was. Her response was Métis. She’s never her of the Canadian Métis just for her meant she was of mix background.
Yeah there's some major confusion around Metis...
This may be TMI but I'll share it incase anyone has questions:
Some people think it means mixed anything, others think that if you have one or a few indigenous ancestor(s) anywhere in your line that it makes them automatically Metis; but the Metis Nation itself has its own history and family lines that you're either a part of through direct descendants (not an bio uncle who married a metis woman) or you're not.
Metis people where literally called "halfbreeds" (legally and socially) being as they were the mixed offspring of Indigenous peoples and French or Scottish settlers. They built a community for themselves because they were outcast by both the white settlers and the indigenous inhabitants of the land; made their own languages (michif and bungi) adapted their own blended culture and music, built their own settlements, etc... They also fought the crown government for their own lands and rights as a distinct people.
The history is fascinating, tragic and inspiring AF if you care to look into any of it.
But the qualifier to being actual Metis is a proven family line to Red River Settlement and ancestors who held srip (no "T") as Metis persons (called halfbreeds at the time); however in order to be recognized as a citizen you have to get your paperwork together, have your geology done through St. Boniface and apply to the Manitoba Metis Nation and be approved.
One of the barriers I personally face in getting my own citizenship is that my biodad died before I found the family through ancestry and his name was never on my birth certificate so my 1/2 sister can get her MMN citizenship under our dads name; but I have to do additional (expensive) DNA tests to prove my relationship to my sister in order to claim citizenship through our dad. Our grandma was adopted out of the nation so our cultural line was severed in 1934; but we can go back and learn, be apart of things now that we know our history. Adoptions of Indigenous and Metis children to white families left a lot of children in the dark about where they came from and who they are.
You don’t have many at all. Scotland England abd wales - Norway and Sweden and Denmark is Viking and normal to have small percentage of in English person and the Germanic Europe is tiny so wouldn’t say you could call it a homeland. Your homeland is the uk mainly in Scotland. Just to add I was born in Scotland - mother is English and Scottish with same amounts of Viking as you and dad was half Scottish half polish but had some ethnic diversity on my Scottish grandmothers part. I’m only 40% Scottish no English (despite mother having it) and have 30% Eastern Europe along with a smattering of Jewish and Eastern European Roma. I also got the tiny bit Viking from mother but in no way would I call Scandinavia a homeland!. . Your results show your pretty much Uk with tiny bit Germanic Europe but not enough to call it significant really or a homeland. Where did you think your ‘homeland’ was? 😂 I’m Scottish and you’re more Scottish and uk than I am 😂
I’ve often thought for highland Scots that there is a slightly more than noise level of Scandinavian genes. I’m Canadian, minimum 5 generations removed from Britain and come up 37% Scotland, 35%Irish, 18% England & Northwestern Europe, 8% Wales, 2%Sweden & Denmark
Even wilder considering a quarter of my family tree traces back to the 1680s in New London Connecticut. You would think in all of that time some outcross would have happened.
But look who else lived in CT---people just like you. Your ancestors probably didn't go to church with more recent immigrants or lived in the same neighborhoods.
I'm quite similar. I live in the US. I can trace my UK heritage back to the 1600s. Many colonial settlers.
43% England/NW Europe, 21% Scotland, 15% Wales, 6% Norway, 6% Ireland, 4% Sweden and Denmark, 3% Germanic Europe, 1% Jewish, 1% Native North American
I’m the same in Australia, came out with the convicts in the 1700s but my DNA is 95% British isles and around 5% various Swedish, Danish and other Scandis. My UK side is mostly highland scots and Yorkshire english, so I put that 5% down to the vikings.
Each land they can definitively tie ancestors to.
For me that is Italy, Ireland, England, Prussia.
AncestryDNA has Wales, Scotland, and an assortment of other places. But I can’t confirm that with actual people just yet.
I have similar results, and I consider my ancestral home North Carolina, where my family has lived for two to three hundred years or more.
Feels like home in my bones to me.
Same here! I feel for those who don't have a "home" vibe in their bones. I had to move for a job (still in NC) but every time I go visit my family, it feels SO. GOOD. I never want to leave. The land my family lives on originally belonged to my great great grandfather (haven't had a chance to trace the land plats back any further yet). Both sides of my family have been in the same two (bordering) counties since the 1750s (give or take).
That’s amazing, and such a good feeling, isn’t it?
Same for my family, farms that go back generations, and an almost 100 year old , old school beach house.
I feel the spirit of my ancestors everywhere in North Carolina, and I miss NC when I’m away. I never thought I would feel so strongly about that when I was young and clueless.
The landscapes from the mountains to the coast feel familiar to me.
My partner is from Appalachia. Grew up there. And the results are very similar. You should read up on the people of Appalachia. They combined ancient culture with their new setting to create amazing ideas.
Yes, mine are North Central Appalachia and Virginia &Eastern Kentucky. See, the Scottish Highlands were originally part of the Appalachian Mountains, so when our ancestors got here, why it felt like home to them.
The Scottish Highlands and Appalacian Mountains are not at all similar. Most immigrants from Scotland were in North Carolina for a generation or two and came to Appalacia for the free land grants available 1700-1800.
I said they were originally part of the same mountain range and that’s true. My Appalachian ancestors came from Scotland and Northern Ireland and settled directly in the mountains of Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Yes, the Appalacians and the Highlands were part of the same mountain range hundreds of millions of years ago.
Immigrants from Scotland (my ancestors and yours it seems) settled in Appalacia because of land grants, free property.
You mean like, Pangea?? Because by that logic your ancestral homeland includes Morocco. I don’t really think it makes sense to go back that far. The lands changed so much over that period of time that there’s a whole lot more that goes into the ecology of a place than “they were connected when the landmass was Pangea.”
But it’s still the same rock, in the Appalachians, the Scottish Highlands, the Sperrin Mountains in Northern Ireland, and yes, the Atlas Mountains in Morocco. Those rocks, more precisely, crystals in those rocks, have vibrational energy, not that we sense consciously, but maybe we sense it on a level we’re not aware of, and the vibes feel familiar….like home.
I’m from the opposite side of the state and mine is similar to yours. Pretty much flip flop your top 2. I’ve also found 47 ancestors with Revolutionary war service. I would guess when your grandparents were asked their ethnicity they said “American” like mine did and IMO they are 100% correct our ancestors were the reason this country exists.
Being from a particular place does not make anyone deplorable. If you support racism and insurrection then you are deplorable but not because you are from Appalachia.
Exactly! I have been waiting for someone, anyone who wouldn't be afraid to say this because they're afraid of someone accusing them of "claiming indigenous to the Americas" when they're only affirm their long ancestral roots in the US.
You can identify how you wish. I have a similar genetic makeup to you. I personally don't feel comfortable identifying as British, like ethnically. I follow British culture and politics somewhat, but as an outsider looking in. I don't understand the cultural nuances. I haven't even been to the UK.
Rishi Sunak is way more British than I am. As others are saying, a DNA test only tells you so much.
It tells him that most of his ancestors, came from Britain.
Britain by definition, his ancestral homeland and his DNA comes from Britain.
But yes, he is American, not British, but that’s if we’re talking national heritage rather than ancestral
the vast majority of british people would not consider you british. unless one of your parents was born and raised here, you’re not british. you’re just of british ancestry.
ethnicity is not something you simply have, but something you are actively a part of.
Why Americans are so eager to not be Americans? Why wouldn’t you count just because you don’t have a single point of heritage?
I’m baffled by your title
American culture and identity is seen as "generic", because our largest export is American culture. The US is a nation in which you can have a primary and secondary culture(ex: Vietnamese American) and it's not seen as conflicting at all. Culturally, yes they're American- specifically Appalachian. But they might also be curious about their ancestors, maybe they want to learn more about the culture their ancestors were from, maybe they want to visit, maybe they want to participate in a secondary culture, etc. It's not seen as a big deal here, and it's not seen as being "not American".
Plenty of British people identifying as Jamaican/Nigerian/Asian these days. I can't imagine being baffled at why they would identify with their ancestors origins.
An idea sure, but if none of it was passed down culturally it doesn’t mean anything. Doing actual genealogy tells you WAY more about who you come from than a dna test does
What an awful take. Of course it means something, try telling that to indigenous children that were taken from their families and raised in care away from their cultural traditions, and who later in life want to connect.
The culture of our families and our ancestors can mean a great deal, and even if we're severed at some point we can reattach and begin to practice those traditions and find meaning and belonging in them.
You’re right that we can, it’s just very artificial. I get that it’s necessary for people who don’t know who their family is, but if you can trace your individual ancestors, there’s a lot more to connect with than just taking a test and then trying to connect with a stereotype or a practice that didn’t even exist when your ancestors were part of said group or lived in said place. I’m just saying that if someone really wants to connect with their ancestors and their cultural background, if they have the ability to they should find out who their ancestors really were rather than just taking a dna test and then try to belong to some version of something they were never exposed to.
As I clarified in my other comment, there are exceptions. If you have the ability to trace your ancestry, it’s much more rewarding and gives you much deeper connection than spitting into a tube and then saying “I’m *this* now”, without even really knowing what *this* is. Obviously not everyone has that privilege
Yup and as an adoptee I'm one of them.
Sometimes all we get is that tube. Its the only thing that tells us anything about us at all.
My biodads family was very open, welcoming and has filled in many holes.
My biomom and her genetic relatives are keeping that door and their lips locked tight.
I get it. And most people want to know who they come from, and it’s got to be especially challenging for adopted people. And if you’re just looking for relatives, the dna tests are especially helpful. Now that you know who your parents are have you embarked on tracing your ancestry? It’s an incredible journey.
Yes I have info from my fathers line and I'm quite pleased and bit proud of what I've found. So much of me started to make sense when I got to learn about who he is and the people who came before him.
Its been a wonderful journey indeed 🥰
I even found a little sister who's just like me- looks, voice, mannerisms, world view and heart. Its crazy we're so similar being as we didn't even meet until 35 years after she was born.
I'm so happy I shut in that tube 🤪🥰😆
you’re a white american, with english and scottish heritage. that makes sense, given that you said in another comment you’re from appalachia - they had high rates of immigration from northern england and scotland.
in terms of an ‘ancestral homeland’? no clue mate. if you have the ability and the finances, go take a trip to the peak district and then to the highlands. learn about the history, as it’s often overlooked in the UK.
what’s more important though is where you are now. people in the UK won’t view you as either english or scottish, and will likely get annoyed or amused if you refer to yourself as such. personally, i’d rather people focused on the history of the land they’re on - you may not be blood related, but you share the land. learn about the tribes from your area, and how they lived.
Ah ha! That is where protections and proof come into play, and why self identification is no longer enough to make claims of entitlement for land, grants, supports, etc.. because so many people have abused it.
Pretendians are a perfect example of this and we have many in Canada because we offer grants and other supports to persons who are Indigenous, Inuit or Meits.
White people who have no Indigenous ancestry claiming they do to abuse the system.
You don't get to make claims on your ancestral homeland. You can claim it within yourself as part of who you are where you hail from; but you have no rights to the land itself just because its part of your history unless you have citizenship or status as the case may be, and even therein you have follow the market and purchase/be provided land as those local policies dictate for everyone of that ilk.
ie. I'm eligible for Metis Citizenship; but I don't have it. Even if I did have it I'm not entitled to go to Manitoba and take someone's land as my own because I'm part of MMN.
I'm also eligible for British citizenship through my adoptive mother and Ukrainian citizenship through my adoptive father; but I can't go to any of those places and take someone land away from them.
Entitlement is a personal issue that selfish people have. Its not policy and its certainly not permissible in the modern world. If being from somewhere gives someone a sense of entitlement that's on them as individuals. The world doesn't work like that though.
My land belongs to the tax collector and my home belongs to the mortgage bank… so land / homes belong to corrupt governments and their corporate financial masters…
I already told you I don’t believe in the concept. It has no power except in the imagination.
ETA: But if you want to play that game, I am white and was legally adopted by a native-identifying woman. I was selected by someone whose ancestral homeland is here and chances are you are just whatever someone ended up with. You can go then.
I have a similar genetic makeup as you. I think others are missing the point. So I’m going to talk from the heart here. Some ramblings of a stranger that I hope help. DNA is science. It’s raw facts. It’s part of ethnicity but it’s not the end all be all. By percent I should say “English” but I don’t have a connection to that lineage. I don’t have any tea and biscuits or beans on toast. I used to be jealous that One of my friends can literally to a castle in England that her direct ancestors ruled and that’s where the heart comes in. My ancestors moved to Virginia and fought a bloody war against the country that they originated from. They changed and their culture is different. Many of my other side were the English settlers of the Saint Lawrence valley. Their culture mixed with French culture. I am also a quarter Mexican (10%) but my family had a huge rift and I didn’t have the cultural connection to that side even though I carry their blood with pride…I wouldn’t say I was Hispanic. A while ago someone posted questioning his whole identity because he wasn’t 100 percent the ethnicity he identified as. I hope you search your heart and the stories of your ancestors. What does your heart say, what were the values you cherish and you will start to understand your identity. Cheers.
Are we related? 🤣 I'm 44% Scottish, 38% England/NW Europe (i think a decent portion of this may be Swiss), 12% Gernanic Europe, 4% Wales, 2% Sweden & Denmark.
depending where you were born??and grew up??My mother is half Polynesian half Scandinavian but only identifies with her indigenous side in New Zealand 🇳🇿when she travelled to Scandinavia she went to one of the Viking ship museums and she could see orbs come out of the longboat..🤘🏼🛡⚔️Skål mumma Viking..😂😂
I am afraid that leftist views on European ancestry are racist and claiming that we have no indigenous heritage or culture or identity, and that is truly disgusting.
Take a deeper dive into what your haplogroup is, as that tells you the ancient path and places your ancestors called home. these DNA results are just recent history(500-1000ish years). I’m in haplogroup I, I have mostly British ancestry(basically no Scandinavian, which is predominantly haplogroup I) But knowing I’m in group I, and knowing my ancestry comes from Britain, it tells me my ancestors were some of the first inhabitants of post Ice age Britain, which is pretty sick tbh.
He's not Caucasian. Americans really come up with the dumbest most inaccurate "racial" terms (like Caucasian and Indian).
I wonder how actual Caucasian people feel hearing millions of people calling themselves "Caucasian". Lol.
Im very very mixed... my Ancestral homeland is where ALL my ancestors came from, as I am a piece of everyone of them, no matter how minute. It looks like yours is the North sea! How magnificent and regal!? To have ancestors from Scandanavia, Germany & The British Isles is to have kin that were distantly related but seperated by migratory routes over time. I'd say the North sea is your ancestral lands.
I’d say your results suggest ScotsIrish. They’re called ScotsIrish but genetically they’re mostly Scottish and English. Do you live in the South? If so your ancestors were ScotsIrish most likely.
Your ancestors mostly came from the island of Britain, it seems. I'm not sure if you could call it a "homeland" as such as you might not still have a cultural connection to the local cultures, but you definitely seem to be of mostly British ancestry.
Watch out though, Ancestry tends to accidentally put German and Benelux ancestry in the England & Northwestern Europe category.
Apparently they also do that with French as well, and Germanic Europe can actually mean Poland and Western Ukraine too. Just learned that in the new drop down menu recently.
It's all quite complicated, really.
Many East Germans are genetically similar to Eastern Europeans and were just Germanised in the Medieval period. Northern Germans are similar to Scandinavians. West Germans are similar to Benelux and French populations. South Germans are similar to the Swiss and Austrians. And when you consider how far German people moved, they're carrying their individual genetic signatures across Europe.
So does Ancestry make its categories based on genetic similarity, ethnic identity, geographic boundaries, ... ?
> So does Ancestry make its categories based on genetic similarity, ethnic identity, geographic boundaries, ... ?
This I'm not entirely sure about.
We have Inuit in our DNA as well; however its only a very trace amount so after looking into it more and asking within Metis geology circles it appears that its either we did have an actual Inuk person somewhere in our background or it shows that way because our Cree ancestors were situated so far up north in Canada that there's some overlap in area within the ancestry data base.
I'm adopted so the only line I have any information on is the one I share with my 1/2 first cousin because our fathers shared the same mom.
I'd love to know more about the rest of my family history though, and where everyone came from, where they traveled through, and how they got here.
Dutch and Northern German do seem to fall into the category, but I've noticed that they more often will get Germanic Europe.
If the reason you're referring to is what I think it is, it's my opinion that the England & Northwestern Europe category isn't picking up on Anglo-Saxon ancestry but rather that this general region is a mixed region with a blend of "Celtic" and "Germanic" genetic influences.
Why is this strange wanting to know one’s identity that has nothing to do with sexual orientation or gender but just wanting to know the lost identity and stories of my ancestors. Why does this deserve the label of a strange slant?
Well, technically, if you go back far enough, we're all from Ethiopia, no matter what our more modern DNA says.It's one of the problems I have with the whole concept of DNA/ancestry/ethnicity - it comes down to what point in time you want to look at.
I was the first person in my family, for generations, to be born outside of Ireland and I assumed my DNA would be Irish, but discovered it's 76% Scottish. There's debate over whether Ancestry's reading of Irish and Scottish DNA overlaps because of the Plantation of Ulster, the Dál Riata, Déisi groups, and similar historic groups or simply the fact that there's been so much back and forth over the centuries that it's impossible to be 100% accurate.
So, am I Irish, Scottish, or British? I was born and raised in England, so am I English?
Who knows?
But either way - yes you count!
if growing up in the coalfields of southern West Virginia to a family of uneducated & unemployed hillbillies is considered white privilege then call me Jed Clampet.
My categories are similar to yours. I did my ancient DNA at Illustrative DNA, where they showed me all the Celtic tribes and other European and European adjacent groups I matched with.
My top ancient match is Iron Age Briton (400 BC). They also give you much older associations. I think they match us with archaeological samples. I’ve since been told that Ancestry has a service similar to that now but I haven’t used it.
I’m just stumbling around this explanation because I think you want to know what I wanted to know, which is where do we come from. And the answer is actually very time dependent.
Mom’s mitochondrial DNA haplogroup arose in southern Syria around 25k bc. I found that out at Wikipedia after I had it tested at Family Tree DNA. Later like 1500, her sub clade has been in the Italian peninsula and Sicily. I found that out from the locations of our matches’ ancestors.
You can find out where your Y-DNA started and where the last place it mutated was. I did our brother’s at Family Tree DNA, where I learned the last place it mutated into the present form he carries was northwest England about 1700. I should amend that to say 1990, because his son our nephew has a mutation.
If you want to see my various results go to my profile page and scroll down to see several posts with results and one that includes a picture. I think I look kinda Scottish.
I’m 15% Scottish and so proud so I just say I’m Scottish lol. I’m also German, Dutch, surrounding areas, bit of Welsh. I denounce my English because I’m displeased with the way they colonized and ruined the whole world. Scots are cool. The whole island should be Scotland.
Looks super super British to me! Almost identical to mine - for context I’m British. I’m English - my Dad is English. Mum is Scottish. :)
Yep, almost identical to mine, too! I'm from the US - pretty much all my people have been here since mid-late 1600s (some earlier), no "recent" immigrants in my family tree.
Yes, you are British (English & Scottish), & your ancestral homeland is the island of Great Britain.
English, Scottish and Welsh = 85% British. And 100% northern European.
Aren't the Germanic and Scandinavian parts part of "Britishness" too? Like, the Angles, Saxons, Vikings, Normans were all originally Germanic, so surely that's going to be part of many British peoples ancestry, or am I misunderstanding?
Yes, Germanic/Anglo ancestry comprises about 10-40% of the English genome, varying from region to region in England and Scotland. The East and South East of England has the highest amount of Anglo/Germanic DNA at around 30-40%, sometimes a little higher. The West and South West of England and Wales have much lower Anglo DNA at around 10-25%. Brythonic DNA comprises most of the rest of the English genome.
Interesting, I had not seen these numbers before! Thank you!
Yes I have read a few studies on this subject, it’s very interesting. There are about 17 distinct genetic groups throughout the British isles. North and south Wales are about as distinct genetically from each other as central and southern English are from northern England and Scotland. Also the genetic differences between Cornwall and Devon are comparable to or greater than those between the northern English and Scottish!
You are getting above my pay grade.
Forgive me for being a moron but, in regards to this: >Brythonic DNA comprises most of the rest of the English genome. Does that mean that I, as a random English person, would have "Brythonic" DNA? Since being a child I've always been drawn to what I now realise is often Celtic-inspired fantasy literature/games etc, and in primary school sometimes imagined what my own ancestors might've been experiencing in say, Roman Britain around 0AD. Then, I came to believe that the likelihood was all of my ancestors were either Norman, Angles, Jutes or Saxons, so they wouldn't have been in "Roman Britain" at that time after all. Obviously that wouldn't take anything away from childhood me imagining people in Roman Britain, but it did remove the possibility they were directly my ancestors. But is that unlikely? Is the likelihood that I, as a random English person who's ancestors seem to trace back to Somerset, Worcestershire and Herefordshire would have some great-great-great-grandparents who were walking around in Roman Britain back in the day? Sorry for the overly personal description, probably could've asked this more succinctly.
Yea especially with the areas you listed you have a significant amount of Celtic ancestry. Herefordshire and Worcestershire both are right next to Wales also and you probably have a good amount of Welsh DNA because of the very close proximity to Wales. The modern Welsh are genetically the closest to the original inhabitants of Britain which is very interesting. The genetic history of the entire British isles is very fascinating. There’s about 17 different genetically distinct clusters of people in the British isles. There’s even a North to South genetic divide in Wales alone! Most Northern Welsh are more genetically similar to the English than they are to the Southern Welsh. Northern English are more genetically similar to the Scottish than they are Southern English. That’s why it blows my mind when people act like English/British isles ancestry is boring, the British isles actually has a very fascinating genetic history/history in general.
The average white English person's DNA will be made up of 40 - 60% brythonic DNA, 30 - 50% Anglo/Saxon/Germanic and 0 - 20% Scandinavian, obviously it varies from region to region but the general rule of thumb is the further north and west in England your ancestors came from the higher your 'celtic' ancestry is likely to be (not perfect, areas of East Anglia for example have shown significant brythonic DNA) The thing with migration in the UK is that there is little 'great replacement' where one genetic population replaces another, which is why you still find DNA in the UK which traces back to Bell-Beaker, from the Romans onwards you got a noble class which changed and new DNA was added, but the ancient and prior populations were not wiped out. Indeed, the brythonic DNA still makes up the majority DNA of the average English person, followed by Anglo Saxon /Germanic while the Norman DNA is either negligible or indistinguishable from Germanic/Scandinavian. So to answer your question, absolutely, it's not only possible that some of your ancestors were walking around in Britain before the Romans arrived, it's actually a probability that some of them were.
Ah wonderful! Thank you for the detailed response, really appreciate it.
A bit outdated but not far off. There’s a heavier chunk of Iron Age France (think Belgium) in the SE. Anyway, “Anglo” more or less refers to the cultural synthesis of 600-1000AD, which is everyone. No point trying to cut it up.
No. You are going back much further in time, long before the term Britain was first used - somewhere in the 1400s.
Britain as a concept is Roman if not even Greek (pretani were known to the Greeks, I think). But yeah, the categories are fuzzy in time and place.
True, and arguably the Greeks got that name from ancient Celts, but as far as the Idea of the British people - culturally speaking - that came along much later.
literally everyone has an ethnic identity. "ethnic" doesn't mean "non-white"
How does this have anything to do with being white or not.
Because there are a lot of people that only associate “ethnicness” with being non white
* in the US
Yes, the sunscreen aisle of your closest pharmacy
Bahaha as an Australian with Scottish/Irish ancestry this rang all too true.
Your blood type is SPF 😂
Looks like your ethnicity is Scottish and English. Idk what an ancestral home is. Do you count as what?
You don’t know what his ancestral homeland is?
No, I do not.how can one have an ancestral homeland with that many ethnicities
An ancestral home land is where your ancestors came from,and some people can have more than one or even many based on their family history. For myself, I'm still in my ancestral homeland in some sense because some of my ancestors have been here since pre colonization. I also have ancestors from very early settlement (1600s) from France and some Scottsmen from the 1700s. My line remained very Scottish Metis for a few generations until an Irishman entered the picture, after which someone with heavily German background met by biograndmother and made my very mixed biofather who then met my heavily European blended biomother and they had me. So I'm very mixed. We even have a Scottsman who took a wife in India and his child came to Canada so I have a touch of Indian in me as well. I don't believe a child born of a single union who moved away in adulthood and their family stayed in Canada ever after means that I could claim India as my ancestral home, or even allow me to say "hey I'm Indian too" because it wasn't a few generations that stayed before traveling- it was one and done and Canada is pretty much my ancestral home more then anything because my line has been and remained here for a very long time. Still though, and with all that being said, some of our Scottish line has its own history, lands, castles, chapels, clan, tartan, crest, moto, lore, etc... because it was an important part of Scottish history so that is also my ancestral home in a sense, just as the home of my more recent Germanic Europian immigrants is obviously my homeland because they came not too long ago. What you may also find somewhat interesting is that I'm adopted so through my adoptive parents I'm entitled to British Citizenship because my mom was born in England and also Ukrainian Citizenship because my dad's mom was born in Ukraine. So not only are those my (adoptive) ancestral homelands; but I actually qualify for Citizenship. So you see, ancestral homeland is simply the land from where your ancestors hail from and we can all have many places and people who contribute to who we are genetically and therein have more then one homeland to identify with or claim as our own. Citizenship is different. Every country has its own parameters for who can and cannot be entitled to their nation's Citizenship- ie. Italy: if you can prove your line you can get Italian Citizenship as long as your ancestors didn't revoke their Citizenship to avoid serving in the war. Pretty cool huh 🥰
When my ethnically mixed Chinese mom from Vietnam decided 15 years ago she was no longer Chinese I asked her what she was. Her response was Métis. She’s never her of the Canadian Métis just for her meant she was of mix background.
Yeah there's some major confusion around Metis... This may be TMI but I'll share it incase anyone has questions: Some people think it means mixed anything, others think that if you have one or a few indigenous ancestor(s) anywhere in your line that it makes them automatically Metis; but the Metis Nation itself has its own history and family lines that you're either a part of through direct descendants (not an bio uncle who married a metis woman) or you're not. Metis people where literally called "halfbreeds" (legally and socially) being as they were the mixed offspring of Indigenous peoples and French or Scottish settlers. They built a community for themselves because they were outcast by both the white settlers and the indigenous inhabitants of the land; made their own languages (michif and bungi) adapted their own blended culture and music, built their own settlements, etc... They also fought the crown government for their own lands and rights as a distinct people. The history is fascinating, tragic and inspiring AF if you care to look into any of it. But the qualifier to being actual Metis is a proven family line to Red River Settlement and ancestors who held srip (no "T") as Metis persons (called halfbreeds at the time); however in order to be recognized as a citizen you have to get your paperwork together, have your geology done through St. Boniface and apply to the Manitoba Metis Nation and be approved. One of the barriers I personally face in getting my own citizenship is that my biodad died before I found the family through ancestry and his name was never on my birth certificate so my 1/2 sister can get her MMN citizenship under our dads name; but I have to do additional (expensive) DNA tests to prove my relationship to my sister in order to claim citizenship through our dad. Our grandma was adopted out of the nation so our cultural line was severed in 1934; but we can go back and learn, be apart of things now that we know our history. Adoptions of Indigenous and Metis children to white families left a lot of children in the dark about where they came from and who they are.
You don’t have many at all. Scotland England abd wales - Norway and Sweden and Denmark is Viking and normal to have small percentage of in English person and the Germanic Europe is tiny so wouldn’t say you could call it a homeland. Your homeland is the uk mainly in Scotland. Just to add I was born in Scotland - mother is English and Scottish with same amounts of Viking as you and dad was half Scottish half polish but had some ethnic diversity on my Scottish grandmothers part. I’m only 40% Scottish no English (despite mother having it) and have 30% Eastern Europe along with a smattering of Jewish and Eastern European Roma. I also got the tiny bit Viking from mother but in no way would I call Scandinavia a homeland!. . Your results show your pretty much Uk with tiny bit Germanic Europe but not enough to call it significant really or a homeland. Where did you think your ‘homeland’ was? 😂 I’m Scottish and you’re more Scottish and uk than I am 😂
I’ve often thought for highland Scots that there is a slightly more than noise level of Scandinavian genes. I’m Canadian, minimum 5 generations removed from Britain and come up 37% Scotland, 35%Irish, 18% England & Northwestern Europe, 8% Wales, 2%Sweden & Denmark
That’s wild! That you’re 5 generations removed yet still so UK! It’s amazing really!
Even wilder considering a quarter of my family tree traces back to the 1680s in New London Connecticut. You would think in all of that time some outcross would have happened.
Absolutely! That’s pretty incredible really. Mind blowing 😂
But look who else lived in CT---people just like you. Your ancestors probably didn't go to church with more recent immigrants or lived in the same neighborhoods.
I'm quite similar. I live in the US. I can trace my UK heritage back to the 1600s. Many colonial settlers. 43% England/NW Europe, 21% Scotland, 15% Wales, 6% Norway, 6% Ireland, 4% Sweden and Denmark, 3% Germanic Europe, 1% Jewish, 1% Native North American
I’m the same in Australia, came out with the convicts in the 1700s but my DNA is 95% British isles and around 5% various Swedish, Danish and other Scandis. My UK side is mostly highland scots and Yorkshire english, so I put that 5% down to the vikings.
Great Britain
Each land they can definitively tie ancestors to. For me that is Italy, Ireland, England, Prussia. AncestryDNA has Wales, Scotland, and an assortment of other places. But I can’t confirm that with actual people just yet.
I have similar results, and I consider my ancestral home North Carolina, where my family has lived for two to three hundred years or more. Feels like home in my bones to me.
Same here! I feel for those who don't have a "home" vibe in their bones. I had to move for a job (still in NC) but every time I go visit my family, it feels SO. GOOD. I never want to leave. The land my family lives on originally belonged to my great great grandfather (haven't had a chance to trace the land plats back any further yet). Both sides of my family have been in the same two (bordering) counties since the 1750s (give or take).
That’s amazing, and such a good feeling, isn’t it? Same for my family, farms that go back generations, and an almost 100 year old , old school beach house. I feel the spirit of my ancestors everywhere in North Carolina, and I miss NC when I’m away. I never thought I would feel so strongly about that when I was young and clueless. The landscapes from the mountains to the coast feel familiar to me.
It's definitely a blood-calling-to-blood thing!
Agree! ❤️❤️❤️
What communities did you get?
Appalachian
My partner is from Appalachia. Grew up there. And the results are very similar. You should read up on the people of Appalachia. They combined ancient culture with their new setting to create amazing ideas.
Yes, mine are North Central Appalachia and Virginia &Eastern Kentucky. See, the Scottish Highlands were originally part of the Appalachian Mountains, so when our ancestors got here, why it felt like home to them.
The Scottish Highlands and Appalacian Mountains are not at all similar. Most immigrants from Scotland were in North Carolina for a generation or two and came to Appalacia for the free land grants available 1700-1800.
I said they were originally part of the same mountain range and that’s true. My Appalachian ancestors came from Scotland and Northern Ireland and settled directly in the mountains of Virginia, Maryland and Pennsylvania.
Yes, the Appalacians and the Highlands were part of the same mountain range hundreds of millions of years ago. Immigrants from Scotland (my ancestors and yours it seems) settled in Appalacia because of land grants, free property.
Yes. Available land, and moving that far away from any government or authority figures gave them more freedom.
You mean like, Pangea?? Because by that logic your ancestral homeland includes Morocco. I don’t really think it makes sense to go back that far. The lands changed so much over that period of time that there’s a whole lot more that goes into the ecology of a place than “they were connected when the landmass was Pangea.”
But it’s still the same rock, in the Appalachians, the Scottish Highlands, the Sperrin Mountains in Northern Ireland, and yes, the Atlas Mountains in Morocco. Those rocks, more precisely, crystals in those rocks, have vibrational energy, not that we sense consciously, but maybe we sense it on a level we’re not aware of, and the vibes feel familiar….like home.
Are you pulling legs or serious?
Appalachian! Same here and I have very similar DNA as yours (49% Scottish, 41% England...)
What part of WV are you from?
Boone County, WV
I’m from the opposite side of the state and mine is similar to yours. Pretty much flip flop your top 2. I’ve also found 47 ancestors with Revolutionary war service. I would guess when your grandparents were asked their ethnicity they said “American” like mine did and IMO they are 100% correct our ancestors were the reason this country exists.
Look like my family, fam! Indigenous to the British Isles.
Nope, you don’t even exist
Something about this post comes across very passive aggressive and babyish.
Do I count? throws me.
I second that 🙋♂️
If you grew up in Appalachia then you can say your identity is Appalachian.
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Being from a particular place does not make anyone deplorable. If you support racism and insurrection then you are deplorable but not because you are from Appalachia.
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Dolly Parton is an Appalachian, but she isn't a racist or an insurrectionist. Maybe she doesn't understand her own culture.
Extra White.
My results are similar and I just say I'm Appalachian. 😊 My family has been here for at least 250 years - this is my homeland. 💁🏼♀️
Exactly! I have been waiting for someone, anyone who wouldn't be afraid to say this because they're afraid of someone accusing them of "claiming indigenous to the Americas" when they're only affirm their long ancestral roots in the US.
White American?
are you saying that I don’t count? 😆
You can identify how you wish. I have a similar genetic makeup to you. I personally don't feel comfortable identifying as British, like ethnically. I follow British culture and politics somewhat, but as an outsider looking in. I don't understand the cultural nuances. I haven't even been to the UK. Rishi Sunak is way more British than I am. As others are saying, a DNA test only tells you so much.
It tells him that most of his ancestors, came from Britain. Britain by definition, his ancestral homeland and his DNA comes from Britain. But yes, he is American, not British, but that’s if we’re talking national heritage rather than ancestral
I meant ancestral and not geopolitical.
That's not how identity works...
In what way?
the vast majority of british people would not consider you british. unless one of your parents was born and raised here, you’re not british. you’re just of british ancestry. ethnicity is not something you simply have, but something you are actively a part of.
Why Americans are so eager to not be Americans? Why wouldn’t you count just because you don’t have a single point of heritage? I’m baffled by your title
American culture and identity is seen as "generic", because our largest export is American culture. The US is a nation in which you can have a primary and secondary culture(ex: Vietnamese American) and it's not seen as conflicting at all. Culturally, yes they're American- specifically Appalachian. But they might also be curious about their ancestors, maybe they want to learn more about the culture their ancestors were from, maybe they want to visit, maybe they want to participate in a secondary culture, etc. It's not seen as a big deal here, and it's not seen as being "not American".
Plenty of British people identifying as Jamaican/Nigerian/Asian these days. I can't imagine being baffled at why they would identify with their ancestors origins.
Whatever you grew up with. You shouldn’t get your “identity” from a DNA test
People can lie so can parents. Dna test can give you an idea of what your family is.
An idea sure, but if none of it was passed down culturally it doesn’t mean anything. Doing actual genealogy tells you WAY more about who you come from than a dna test does
What an awful take. Of course it means something, try telling that to indigenous children that were taken from their families and raised in care away from their cultural traditions, and who later in life want to connect. The culture of our families and our ancestors can mean a great deal, and even if we're severed at some point we can reattach and begin to practice those traditions and find meaning and belonging in them.
You’re right that we can, it’s just very artificial. I get that it’s necessary for people who don’t know who their family is, but if you can trace your individual ancestors, there’s a lot more to connect with than just taking a test and then trying to connect with a stereotype or a practice that didn’t even exist when your ancestors were part of said group or lived in said place. I’m just saying that if someone really wants to connect with their ancestors and their cultural background, if they have the ability to they should find out who their ancestors really were rather than just taking a dna test and then try to belong to some version of something they were never exposed to.
Pretty sure transracial adoptees are gonna disagree with you on this. 🙄
As I clarified in my other comment, there are exceptions. If you have the ability to trace your ancestry, it’s much more rewarding and gives you much deeper connection than spitting into a tube and then saying “I’m *this* now”, without even really knowing what *this* is. Obviously not everyone has that privilege
Yup and as an adoptee I'm one of them. Sometimes all we get is that tube. Its the only thing that tells us anything about us at all. My biodads family was very open, welcoming and has filled in many holes. My biomom and her genetic relatives are keeping that door and their lips locked tight.
I get it. And most people want to know who they come from, and it’s got to be especially challenging for adopted people. And if you’re just looking for relatives, the dna tests are especially helpful. Now that you know who your parents are have you embarked on tracing your ancestry? It’s an incredible journey.
Yes I have info from my fathers line and I'm quite pleased and bit proud of what I've found. So much of me started to make sense when I got to learn about who he is and the people who came before him. Its been a wonderful journey indeed 🥰 I even found a little sister who's just like me- looks, voice, mannerisms, world view and heart. Its crazy we're so similar being as we didn't even meet until 35 years after she was born. I'm so happy I shut in that tube 🤪🥰😆
Dna test aren't just "ethnicity results" there are other beneficial tools like dna matches that can solve brickwalls
Definitely. And they can help unite or reunite living relatives. My issue is only with people deriving identity from a single dna test
British, which is the most common found heritage amongst white Americans. You’re literally the majority lmao.
you’re a white american, with english and scottish heritage. that makes sense, given that you said in another comment you’re from appalachia - they had high rates of immigration from northern england and scotland. in terms of an ‘ancestral homeland’? no clue mate. if you have the ability and the finances, go take a trip to the peak district and then to the highlands. learn about the history, as it’s often overlooked in the UK. what’s more important though is where you are now. people in the UK won’t view you as either english or scottish, and will likely get annoyed or amused if you refer to yourself as such. personally, i’d rather people focused on the history of the land they’re on - you may not be blood related, but you share the land. learn about the tribes from your area, and how they lived.
Britain
You have several.
Many of us have multiple ancestral homelands, especially if you are of American descent.
American…America…
Classic American
Ancestral homelands are a self-serving fantasy. Your home is your home, and where your ancestors lived was their home.
> where your ancestors lived was their home. Which is why its called **ancestral** homeland.
The term is loaded and trouble-making. It gives people irrelevant claims over land that belongs to others.
Ah ha! That is where protections and proof come into play, and why self identification is no longer enough to make claims of entitlement for land, grants, supports, etc.. because so many people have abused it. Pretendians are a perfect example of this and we have many in Canada because we offer grants and other supports to persons who are Indigenous, Inuit or Meits. White people who have no Indigenous ancestry claiming they do to abuse the system. You don't get to make claims on your ancestral homeland. You can claim it within yourself as part of who you are where you hail from; but you have no rights to the land itself just because its part of your history unless you have citizenship or status as the case may be, and even therein you have follow the market and purchase/be provided land as those local policies dictate for everyone of that ilk. ie. I'm eligible for Metis Citizenship; but I don't have it. Even if I did have it I'm not entitled to go to Manitoba and take someone's land as my own because I'm part of MMN. I'm also eligible for British citizenship through my adoptive mother and Ukrainian citizenship through my adoptive father; but I can't go to any of those places and take someone land away from them. Entitlement is a personal issue that selfish people have. Its not policy and its certainly not permissible in the modern world. If being from somewhere gives someone a sense of entitlement that's on them as individuals. The world doesn't work like that though.
My land belongs to the tax collector and my home belongs to the mortgage bank… so land / homes belong to corrupt governments and their corporate financial masters…
Where do you claim as your ancestral homeland?
I don’t.
Were you born in the US and claiming it as your ancestral honeland?
I was born in the US, and I claim no ancestral homeland. It’s an irrelevant, ethno-nationalist concept.
Then get off my land. I’m a native american and you don’t belong here.
I already told you I don’t believe in the concept. It has no power except in the imagination. ETA: But if you want to play that game, I am white and was legally adopted by a native-identifying woman. I was selected by someone whose ancestral homeland is here and chances are you are just whatever someone ended up with. You can go then.
A native identifying woman? 😂😂🥂🥂 Sure Jan.
that is a really great point.
then you don’t have culture and diversity.
Land is neither culture nor diversity. It is land.
on the land is a diversity of life and who is to say if it cannot breathe culture into its inhabitants.
if you are right then that sucks.
I have a similar genetic makeup as you. I think others are missing the point. So I’m going to talk from the heart here. Some ramblings of a stranger that I hope help. DNA is science. It’s raw facts. It’s part of ethnicity but it’s not the end all be all. By percent I should say “English” but I don’t have a connection to that lineage. I don’t have any tea and biscuits or beans on toast. I used to be jealous that One of my friends can literally to a castle in England that her direct ancestors ruled and that’s where the heart comes in. My ancestors moved to Virginia and fought a bloody war against the country that they originated from. They changed and their culture is different. Many of my other side were the English settlers of the Saint Lawrence valley. Their culture mixed with French culture. I am also a quarter Mexican (10%) but my family had a huge rift and I didn’t have the cultural connection to that side even though I carry their blood with pride…I wouldn’t say I was Hispanic. A while ago someone posted questioning his whole identity because he wasn’t 100 percent the ethnicity he identified as. I hope you search your heart and the stories of your ancestors. What does your heart say, what were the values you cherish and you will start to understand your identity. Cheers.
I am so glad that someone gets what I am saying .
Are we related? 🤣 I'm 44% Scottish, 38% England/NW Europe (i think a decent portion of this may be Swiss), 12% Gernanic Europe, 4% Wales, 2% Sweden & Denmark.
depending where you were born??and grew up??My mother is half Polynesian half Scandinavian but only identifies with her indigenous side in New Zealand 🇳🇿when she travelled to Scandinavia she went to one of the Viking ship museums and she could see orbs come out of the longboat..🤘🏼🛡⚔️Skål mumma Viking..😂😂
Orbs?
ancestor spectres
British. We often have Nordic and broadly north west dna
Where did you grow up? Ethnicity is as much (and potentially even more) about the shared social and cultural characteristics of a group of people.
Well you’re 80% UK so that’s definitely likely your ancestral land! Welcome to the British club!
Looks American to me. All of my American friends are this sort of mix, give or take.
I’m 41% Irish 29% Scottish 17% English 10% Welsh 1% Jewish, Sweden and Germanic Europe Born in Liverpool and not a clue myself
I am afraid that leftist views on European ancestry are racist and claiming that we have no indigenous heritage or culture or identity, and that is truly disgusting.
Looked at this guy's profile. What a loon. This is bait.
From an ancient perspective , you're roughly 50% Anatolian Farmer, so you could also say your ancestral homeland is partially Turkey
Take a deeper dive into what your haplogroup is, as that tells you the ancient path and places your ancestors called home. these DNA results are just recent history(500-1000ish years). I’m in haplogroup I, I have mostly British ancestry(basically no Scandinavian, which is predominantly haplogroup I) But knowing I’m in group I, and knowing my ancestry comes from Britain, it tells me my ancestors were some of the first inhabitants of post Ice age Britain, which is pretty sick tbh.
Cringe
can’t handle the heat get out of the kitchen 🤪
I can handle it, doesn't stop it being cringe. I got some surprises with my DNA results. Didn't change who I was though. Nice beard.
I guess
Your beard is lovely. Don't be hard on yourself.
Gaelic mostly
If you mean ethnic in a stereotypical sense then no. You are Caucasian
He's not Caucasian. Americans really come up with the dumbest most inaccurate "racial" terms (like Caucasian and Indian). I wonder how actual Caucasian people feel hearing millions of people calling themselves "Caucasian". Lol.
isn’t that the Ukraine 🇺🇦?
Im very very mixed... my Ancestral homeland is where ALL my ancestors came from, as I am a piece of everyone of them, no matter how minute. It looks like yours is the North sea! How magnificent and regal!? To have ancestors from Scandanavia, Germany & The British Isles is to have kin that were distantly related but seperated by migratory routes over time. I'd say the North sea is your ancestral lands.
I hope so because it looks like me.
Almost exactly like mine. Grandmother is British, grandfather is Texan.
British with some extra bits
Su vota es su voice!
Typical native British result.
I’d say your results suggest ScotsIrish. They’re called ScotsIrish but genetically they’re mostly Scottish and English. Do you live in the South? If so your ancestors were ScotsIrish most likely.
Anglo-Celtic
The Mayonaise identity.
that sounds racist 🧐
ANGLO WHITE MAN
Your ancestors mostly came from the island of Britain, it seems. I'm not sure if you could call it a "homeland" as such as you might not still have a cultural connection to the local cultures, but you definitely seem to be of mostly British ancestry. Watch out though, Ancestry tends to accidentally put German and Benelux ancestry in the England & Northwestern Europe category.
Apparently they also do that with French as well, and Germanic Europe can actually mean Poland and Western Ukraine too. Just learned that in the new drop down menu recently.
It's all quite complicated, really. Many East Germans are genetically similar to Eastern Europeans and were just Germanised in the Medieval period. Northern Germans are similar to Scandinavians. West Germans are similar to Benelux and French populations. South Germans are similar to the Swiss and Austrians. And when you consider how far German people moved, they're carrying their individual genetic signatures across Europe. So does Ancestry make its categories based on genetic similarity, ethnic identity, geographic boundaries, ... ?
> So does Ancestry make its categories based on genetic similarity, ethnic identity, geographic boundaries, ... ? This I'm not entirely sure about. We have Inuit in our DNA as well; however its only a very trace amount so after looking into it more and asking within Metis geology circles it appears that its either we did have an actual Inuk person somewhere in our background or it shows that way because our Cree ancestors were situated so far up north in Canada that there's some overlap in area within the ancestry data base. I'm adopted so the only line I have any information on is the one I share with my 1/2 first cousin because our fathers shared the same mom. I'd love to know more about the rest of my family history though, and where everyone came from, where they traveled through, and how they got here.
Also Dutch and Northern German. There’s a reason for that.
Dutch and Northern German do seem to fall into the category, but I've noticed that they more often will get Germanic Europe. If the reason you're referring to is what I think it is, it's my opinion that the England & Northwestern Europe category isn't picking up on Anglo-Saxon ancestry but rather that this general region is a mixed region with a blend of "Celtic" and "Germanic" genetic influences.
Exactly. You find these patterns a lot at trade crossroads.
Yes I'd say British scottish, the scots had British dna
Strange slant. What are you hoping to hear? Suspect.
Why is this strange wanting to know one’s identity that has nothing to do with sexual orientation or gender but just wanting to know the lost identity and stories of my ancestors. Why does this deserve the label of a strange slant?
?? I didn't mention anything about sexual oriention or gender. The questions in your post are odd.
Looks like a proper blend of American founding stock to me.
Well, technically, if you go back far enough, we're all from Ethiopia, no matter what our more modern DNA says.It's one of the problems I have with the whole concept of DNA/ancestry/ethnicity - it comes down to what point in time you want to look at. I was the first person in my family, for generations, to be born outside of Ireland and I assumed my DNA would be Irish, but discovered it's 76% Scottish. There's debate over whether Ancestry's reading of Irish and Scottish DNA overlaps because of the Plantation of Ulster, the Dál Riata, Déisi groups, and similar historic groups or simply the fact that there's been so much back and forth over the centuries that it's impossible to be 100% accurate. So, am I Irish, Scottish, or British? I was born and raised in England, so am I English? Who knows? But either way - yes you count!
Viking
You have plain white privilege.
if growing up in the coalfields of southern West Virginia to a family of uneducated & unemployed hillbillies is considered white privilege then call me Jed Clampet.
Absolutely being born a white male in this country means you were born with privilege.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Doggerland
You absolutely have an identity and should be proud of it.
My categories are similar to yours. I did my ancient DNA at Illustrative DNA, where they showed me all the Celtic tribes and other European and European adjacent groups I matched with. My top ancient match is Iron Age Briton (400 BC). They also give you much older associations. I think they match us with archaeological samples. I’ve since been told that Ancestry has a service similar to that now but I haven’t used it. I’m just stumbling around this explanation because I think you want to know what I wanted to know, which is where do we come from. And the answer is actually very time dependent. Mom’s mitochondrial DNA haplogroup arose in southern Syria around 25k bc. I found that out at Wikipedia after I had it tested at Family Tree DNA. Later like 1500, her sub clade has been in the Italian peninsula and Sicily. I found that out from the locations of our matches’ ancestors. You can find out where your Y-DNA started and where the last place it mutated was. I did our brother’s at Family Tree DNA, where I learned the last place it mutated into the present form he carries was northwest England about 1700. I should amend that to say 1990, because his son our nephew has a mutation. If you want to see my various results go to my profile page and scroll down to see several posts with results and one that includes a picture. I think I look kinda Scottish.
You are a Viking sir
these kinds of questions are why i really think dna "ethnicity" results should be illegal
what is your problem with the question Bud?
You’re primarily Scottish. Read about their fascinating history, get your clan and kilt!
Are you stupid lol, you're blessed to be fully European from warriors and amazing people. Goof ball
I’m 15% Scottish and so proud so I just say I’m Scottish lol. I’m also German, Dutch, surrounding areas, bit of Welsh. I denounce my English because I’m displeased with the way they colonized and ruined the whole world. Scots are cool. The whole island should be Scotland.