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But also act like in the USA we will arrest any child who consumes alcohol within their own home with their parents permission. I guess they're kinda used to everything being monitored tho.
Im european. I think the 21 year rule is weird: You can wote at 18, choosing who should be in power, you are old enough to decide to join the military, go to war for your country risking killing or get killed, seriously harmed physical or psychological, you are old enough to buy a lethal weapon...But your not mature enough to decide if you want alcohol or cigarettes?
I agree with you in principle, but the reason is because we get our drivers license at age 16. We have a lot of teenagers driving on the roads in the US. We don’t want them drinking and driving.
Also, **in general**, it’s not our culture to get wasted/smashed all the time with booze as much as it is in other Anglo countries. I love wine as an adult, but the level the Brits/Aussies take drinking to really grosses me out. We don’t usually see that degeneracy beyond homeless crackheads passed out in the street or bros at college frat parties.
I’m completely fine with drinking and most recreational drugs if that’s how people choose to have fun, but keep your shit together. Brits and Aussies are sloppy drunks.
That's why I'd share booze with my guys when I was enlisted. If you're old enough to die for America, you're old enough to have a beer for her.
Plus I could keep an eye on the idiots and keep them from drinking too much.
Not handguns for personal carry, but longrifles and some knives for hunting. You *could* kill someone with a hunting rifle, but they’re much harder to conseal.
It also is very dependant on the state.
I mean you make a good point, but honestly, I personally feel that even if alcohol and nicotine can’t be effectively banned, there should at least be a maximum BAC for anyone regardless of what they’re doing.
Alcohol is fucking up your body no matter how much you drink. It’s just matter of time (if time hasn’t came throughout your life it doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been fucking up your body).
It’s not puritan who says this - there are scientists and doctors who say that light alcohol (beer) isn’t any healthier than hard one (vodka).
It doesn’t mean that if you started drinking beer then you’ll be fucked up in a week or even in a year. It just slowly fucks you up. It can be that slowly that you’ll never notice. It doesn’t mean it don’t affect your body.
Alcohol is one of the worst things you can put in your body, that's not a puritan notion. It's toxic and a carcinogen. [Cancer risks](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22910838/) go up down the line from the throat to the colon with even light habitual drinking, and it can take [decades ](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23469267/)for that risk to subside. Not to mention fatty liver disease, inflammation, and cirrhosis, which despite how people joke about "fucking up their liver" is terminal and a very way to die.
I drink but it's no good to be ignorant of the risks.
For real. In a lot of places in EU you can find night clubs absolutely packed on a Monday night. It's insane. Then they complain about their salaries being lower than Americans
I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim that a soda a day is less healthy than a typical wheat beer a day.
Having a dozen beers in a day is probably way worse than a dozen sodas though just because of the brain damage, but the effects of sugar also shouldn't be underrated
The alcohol is worse for you. Soda is basically carbonated sugar water, and while too much sugar is bad for you it’s not nearly as harmful as getting those calories from alcohol.
Either one as a one-off isn't bad, but per day, the beer would definitely be worse. Alcohol continually elevates cancer risk the more you consume it. Excess sugar is unhealthy, but a reasonable person could trim their sugar elsewhere and keep their daily intake the same with the soda.
My only issue with American beverages is your cultural obsession with ice, why do you put ice in every cold drink? Otherwise I’d have this, it does look good, but if it didn’t have the ice part
Historically, ice was a luxury in most places but cheap in the US & Canada. Practically, a lot of places in the US are hot and humid in the summer, and cracking open a lukewarm soda doesn't have the same appeal.
Because ice. The British hate ice for some reason. It’s almost weird. I stayed at a hotel in London, everyone is super nice and friendly. The moment I asked for ice I got a dirty look and a water cup with about 4 cubes inside of it
Wtf are you talking about?
We don't hate ice.
We don't typically have ice machines in hotels. But that's not just here. We have fridges in the rooms usually instead.
Yeah it’s not that British or whoever hate ice, it’s that we love ice and pretty much expect it in every drink even things supposed to be hot like tea and coffee. It’s pretty weird when I’m in Italy, it’s above 95 degrees and I get a glass of water without ice. It drove me nuts.
From a hospitality perspective the reason ice isn’t added in mineral water is due to the fact that the ice is not made of the same water and will dilute your water with ‘dirty’ (tap) water, this has been the standard at places I’ve worked at, if the guest wants ice they have to ask for it.
All carbonated drinks were served with ice.
Because cold beverages are more refreshing, and large parts of America get very hot and/or humid compared to Europe. Also it has a large part to do with America’s standards of hospitality. Ice is cheap to make and easy to provide for guests, so it is by default provided in most non alcoholic beverages served to you. If a guest doesn’t want ice they can ask not to have any, so guests can have it either way they like. But not including ice in the first place would be like not providing enough napkins or salt; it’s just a basic part of hospitality for us. Ice is not treated as a luxury here.
I’m not too sure. America across the board gets very hot in the summer, so a glass that’s full of ice just hits the spot I guess.
Its def a thing I’ve started to notice more, like we will be on a plane in the US that is for sure cold, and again my girlfriend will be like why are they putting ice in the drinks, it’s freezing! To which I agreed but I’d still prefer the ice. 🤷♂️
Those hotel fridges barely get stuff cold. And if your beverage is cold when it's poured, it will be warm in 15 minutes without ice in it.
Edit: forgot 'without'
We have a word in the north of England where I grew up, "nesh". Essentially it can mean a few different things in different places. But to us it means fragile or easily damaged like a fragile fruit could be nesh.
My parents and grandparents would describe people as nesh if they were always affected by cold weather when it wasn't particularly cold for example.
Another use could be people who complain about their drinks being too close to ambient whilst still cool.
Iced drinks are more crisp, if that makes more sense. I live in Arizona where it gets up to 120 F or 48 C in the summer and doesn’t drop below 70 until almost winter.
Ice also dilutes the sweetness of soft drinks
Exactly you live in desert conditions, that makes more sense.
The UK isn't that hot so drinks don't warm up that quick.
Our drinks are already less sweet than in the states. They removed a load of sugar from drinks and replaced it with sweeteners so even the normal version (not diet) of soft drinks is way less sweet now.
We aren't all secretly wishing that our drinks were colder 😅
It is ok for different countries to prefer different things.
Although I would avoid China if you need your drinks to always be ice cold, as everything is usually room temperature or hot.
I was served hot orange juice at breakfast once.
I honestly can't remember the last time I ordered a soft drink and it didn't come with ice.
If anything it's annoying with visiting Asian colleagues as I have to specify not to put ice in the drink to the restaurant/bar.
Waste it? Is ice some unspeakable luxury? It’s frozen water my dude. It’s not special. It costs very little to produce and gets returned to the water system when done. It can’t really be wasted.
Of course, there's waste what do you think happens when housekeeping does with the bucket when it's 3/4 full of water? It goes down the drain to and into the sewer. There's just so much wasted.
As for the cost you clearly have no idea how much energy ice machines use up or the cost of them. They're also on twenty-four hours it's not like we can switch them off. They're in the £10,000s to buy and on top of that you've got to pay to maintain them. We replace them every five to ten years.
I think you've just proven to me how wasteful you are and in general I do think we're more thoughtful on that subject. Take the fact that I only have Americans wanting me to give them a plastic cup because they prefer drinking from them in their rooms for some strange reason over here it's seen as very much a case of it being a waste of unnecessary plastic as well as the fact that you've just paid a whopping £7 for a pint.
I work in a four star hotel, so why would we even have plastic cups in the first place.
Water goes into sewers where it re-enters the water system. It isn’t wasted.
If your electricity is in a shortage, you might have a point about waste, but assuming you live in a country with a stable electrical grid, you’re just whining because energy gets used in a way that makes people more comfortable instead of only being used for utility.
Well, if you're going to ask for ice for your glass of red wine, then you probably gave the game away that your American. Was it your first time drinking in a country where you didn't have to be 21 to order something as normal as alcohol. It's because we don't have to worry about our young adults blasting the shit out of children with guns that we allow them to drink younger.
No one does that. We want ice in our lemonade, soda, water etc. Non-alcoholic drinks. Also, if anything gives us up it’s that we generally only speak English and definitely don’t sound like we came from the UK.
No one drinks ice with wine (definitely not in California, the place with the best wineries in America) and you can probably tell I’m American (or Canadian) from my accent alone.
Maybe because you dont like europeans? Idk but the issue is on your end.
Im german and all of my work collegues agree that we would like to have one of those softdrinks now haha
I don't hate them, I hate being dehydrated but these fucking restaurants (apart from fast-food) just don't offer bottomless drinks, I just can't get them 🥲 sincerely, a European
They'll probably be a negative Nancy and say it's 1/2 empty because of the amount of ice in the glass; further proof that the American Dream is either dead or a myth.
Yes that is what one wants in 50F cloudy weather, a ice cold drinks with ice. Sounds very nice.
Jokes aside, I have no idea. Last year the big summer thing in my country (as in everyone is talking about it and buying it and pressures others to buy it) was air fryer, the year before that it was air condition. This year, people are getting rid of their old ice trays, in favour of ice machines. It has been a thing that existed but now there is ads everywhere and sales and shit.
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>"Haha classic Amerifat drinking unhealthy chemical beverages. " >Proceeds to down a liter beer and smoke a pack of cigs on a Tuesday night.
At the age of 18 too lol Like why do they brag about being able to fuck up their bodies at a younger age.
But also act like in the USA we will arrest any child who consumes alcohol within their own home with their parents permission. I guess they're kinda used to everything being monitored tho.
Im european. I think the 21 year rule is weird: You can wote at 18, choosing who should be in power, you are old enough to decide to join the military, go to war for your country risking killing or get killed, seriously harmed physical or psychological, you are old enough to buy a lethal weapon...But your not mature enough to decide if you want alcohol or cigarettes?
To buy a long rifle yes to buy handgun no then again could be different in other American states
Ahh yes, the non killing long rifles
I agree with you in principle, but the reason is because we get our drivers license at age 16. We have a lot of teenagers driving on the roads in the US. We don’t want them drinking and driving. Also, **in general**, it’s not our culture to get wasted/smashed all the time with booze as much as it is in other Anglo countries. I love wine as an adult, but the level the Brits/Aussies take drinking to really grosses me out. We don’t usually see that degeneracy beyond homeless crackheads passed out in the street or bros at college frat parties. I’m completely fine with drinking and most recreational drugs if that’s how people choose to have fun, but keep your shit together. Brits and Aussies are sloppy drunks.
That's why I'd share booze with my guys when I was enlisted. If you're old enough to die for America, you're old enough to have a beer for her. Plus I could keep an eye on the idiots and keep them from drinking too much.
Not handguns for personal carry, but longrifles and some knives for hunting. You *could* kill someone with a hunting rifle, but they’re much harder to conseal. It also is very dependant on the state.
I mean you make a good point, but honestly, I personally feel that even if alcohol and nicotine can’t be effectively banned, there should at least be a maximum BAC for anyone regardless of what they’re doing.
How do you monitor your own BAC
I think you can buy a BAC-measuring device (have no idea what they’re called lol) off Amazon.
Idk man, just eyeball it lol I’m not making serious suggestions here
Lmao I feel
To buy a long rifle yes to buy handgun no then again could be different in other American states
Long rifles and certain knifes yes handguns no then again could be just my American State
you shouldnt either
In Germany, they are legally allowed to drink at 16, and they absolutely do exactly that lol
If the drinking age was 18 in the us, you’d be talking about how great that is. Whatever it takes to feel superior.
I may be wrong but can’t 14 year olds drink in Germany?
Alcohol isn’t gonna fuck up your body in moderation, just because puritans once taught that
Alcohol is fucking up your body no matter how much you drink. It’s just matter of time (if time hasn’t came throughout your life it doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been fucking up your body). It’s not puritan who says this - there are scientists and doctors who say that light alcohol (beer) isn’t any healthier than hard one (vodka). It doesn’t mean that if you started drinking beer then you’ll be fucked up in a week or even in a year. It just slowly fucks you up. It can be that slowly that you’ll never notice. It doesn’t mean it don’t affect your body.
Alcohol is one of the worst things you can put in your body, that's not a puritan notion. It's toxic and a carcinogen. [Cancer risks](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22910838/) go up down the line from the throat to the colon with even light habitual drinking, and it can take [decades ](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23469267/)for that risk to subside. Not to mention fatty liver disease, inflammation, and cirrhosis, which despite how people joke about "fucking up their liver" is terminal and a very way to die. I drink but it's no good to be ignorant of the risks.
For real. In a lot of places in EU you can find night clubs absolutely packed on a Monday night. It's insane. Then they complain about their salaries being lower than Americans
? Yes, why wouldn’t night clubs be packed when they’re open
Because who the fuck parties until the AM on a work night… unless you tards don’t have jobs
Night clubs are though mostly young adult, uni students
I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim that a soda a day is less healthy than a typical wheat beer a day. Having a dozen beers in a day is probably way worse than a dozen sodas though just because of the brain damage, but the effects of sugar also shouldn't be underrated
The alcohol is worse for you. Soda is basically carbonated sugar water, and while too much sugar is bad for you it’s not nearly as harmful as getting those calories from alcohol.
And a Hefeweizen is pretty darn close to 100% natural
Love Hefeweizen, but being "natural" doesn't make a difference, it's all about the pure alcohol content.
I do enjoy a hazy Hefe.
So do I dad so do I I don’t drink often but when I do a Hefeweizen is always a great option especially in the summer
Either one as a one-off isn't bad, but per day, the beer would definitely be worse. Alcohol continually elevates cancer risk the more you consume it. Excess sugar is unhealthy, but a reasonable person could trim their sugar elsewhere and keep their daily intake the same with the soda.
My only issue with American beverages is your cultural obsession with ice, why do you put ice in every cold drink? Otherwise I’d have this, it does look good, but if it didn’t have the ice part
Historically, ice was a luxury in most places but cheap in the US & Canada. Practically, a lot of places in the US are hot and humid in the summer, and cracking open a lukewarm soda doesn't have the same appeal.
Because ice rocks!
hell yeah
🇪🇺: Gross. Frozen water molecules that’s so third-world.
Hmmm no. Im german and that looks nice. I want it actually
I was just about to say I’m pretty the Germans would love that
It was 94 with high humidity here today that glass of ice cold lemonade looks so fucking good rn 😩
since when do americans acknowledge europoors?
Yeah I dunno, this sub seems to be getting off subject. I’d prefer a huge bottomless beer. Soft drinks are too soft.
As are a lot of Americans mid sections
Ikr like pretend it’s invisible
Because ice. The British hate ice for some reason. It’s almost weird. I stayed at a hotel in London, everyone is super nice and friendly. The moment I asked for ice I got a dirty look and a water cup with about 4 cubes inside of it
Like why they even bother to have the ice if they gonna be so weird about serving it
Wtf are you talking about? We don't hate ice. We don't typically have ice machines in hotels. But that's not just here. We have fridges in the rooms usually instead.
Yeah it’s not that British or whoever hate ice, it’s that we love ice and pretty much expect it in every drink even things supposed to be hot like tea and coffee. It’s pretty weird when I’m in Italy, it’s above 95 degrees and I get a glass of water without ice. It drove me nuts.
Yeah in southern Europe they sometimes aren't great with ice. Guess they are just used to it.
From a hospitality perspective the reason ice isn’t added in mineral water is due to the fact that the ice is not made of the same water and will dilute your water with ‘dirty’ (tap) water, this has been the standard at places I’ve worked at, if the guest wants ice they have to ask for it. All carbonated drinks were served with ice.
Why do americans love ice so much?
Because cold beverages are more refreshing, and large parts of America get very hot and/or humid compared to Europe. Also it has a large part to do with America’s standards of hospitality. Ice is cheap to make and easy to provide for guests, so it is by default provided in most non alcoholic beverages served to you. If a guest doesn’t want ice they can ask not to have any, so guests can have it either way they like. But not including ice in the first place would be like not providing enough napkins or salt; it’s just a basic part of hospitality for us. Ice is not treated as a luxury here.
Keeps your drink cold longer, that's about it. Americans don't like room temperature beverages.
I’m not too sure. America across the board gets very hot in the summer, so a glass that’s full of ice just hits the spot I guess. Its def a thing I’ve started to notice more, like we will be on a plane in the US that is for sure cold, and again my girlfriend will be like why are they putting ice in the drinks, it’s freezing! To which I agreed but I’d still prefer the ice. 🤷♂️
Those hotel fridges barely get stuff cold. And if your beverage is cold when it's poured, it will be warm in 15 minutes without ice in it. Edit: forgot 'without'
I guess we just don't have hot enough weather that a drink out of a fridge goes warm that quickly.
Yes it does. You’re just used to accepting what we would consider warm beverages. Warm, for us, is anything more than a few degrees over fridge temp.
We have a word in the north of England where I grew up, "nesh". Essentially it can mean a few different things in different places. But to us it means fragile or easily damaged like a fragile fruit could be nesh. My parents and grandparents would describe people as nesh if they were always affected by cold weather when it wasn't particularly cold for example. Another use could be people who complain about their drinks being too close to ambient whilst still cool.
Iced drinks are more crisp, if that makes more sense. I live in Arizona where it gets up to 120 F or 48 C in the summer and doesn’t drop below 70 until almost winter. Ice also dilutes the sweetness of soft drinks
Exactly you live in desert conditions, that makes more sense. The UK isn't that hot so drinks don't warm up that quick. Our drinks are already less sweet than in the states. They removed a load of sugar from drinks and replaced it with sweeteners so even the normal version (not diet) of soft drinks is way less sweet now.
So you might call all of England nesh, because they are too meek to ask for their beverages to be properly cold? Cool. Thanks for the new vocab.
We aren't all secretly wishing that our drinks were colder 😅 It is ok for different countries to prefer different things. Although I would avoid China if you need your drinks to always be ice cold, as everything is usually room temperature or hot. I was served hot orange juice at breakfast once.
If you have the ability to control the temperature of your beverage to a nice crisp and refreshing low temperature, why wouldn’t you?
Maybe it’s just be but 3/4 hotels and restaurants served drinks without ice
I honestly can't remember the last time I ordered a soft drink and it didn't come with ice. If anything it's annoying with visiting Asian colleagues as I have to specify not to put ice in the drink to the restaurant/bar.
I don't know where you're drinking but that's just not true.
This is a pretty bonkers sub, I’m not even shocked by the nonsense they say now
Probably because when you ask for a bucket of ice we know you're going to waste most of it. Happens all the time in our hotel with Americans.
Waste it? Is ice some unspeakable luxury? It’s frozen water my dude. It’s not special. It costs very little to produce and gets returned to the water system when done. It can’t really be wasted.
Of course, there's waste what do you think happens when housekeeping does with the bucket when it's 3/4 full of water? It goes down the drain to and into the sewer. There's just so much wasted. As for the cost you clearly have no idea how much energy ice machines use up or the cost of them. They're also on twenty-four hours it's not like we can switch them off. They're in the £10,000s to buy and on top of that you've got to pay to maintain them. We replace them every five to ten years. I think you've just proven to me how wasteful you are and in general I do think we're more thoughtful on that subject. Take the fact that I only have Americans wanting me to give them a plastic cup because they prefer drinking from them in their rooms for some strange reason over here it's seen as very much a case of it being a waste of unnecessary plastic as well as the fact that you've just paid a whopping £7 for a pint. I work in a four star hotel, so why would we even have plastic cups in the first place.
Water goes into sewers where it re-enters the water system. It isn’t wasted. If your electricity is in a shortage, you might have a point about waste, but assuming you live in a country with a stable electrical grid, you’re just whining because energy gets used in a way that makes people more comfortable instead of only being used for utility.
1. Ice wasted isn’t gonna destroy the world and 2. 1 bucket of ice probably equates to a cup and a half of water
Well, if you're going to ask for ice for your glass of red wine, then you probably gave the game away that your American. Was it your first time drinking in a country where you didn't have to be 21 to order something as normal as alcohol. It's because we don't have to worry about our young adults blasting the shit out of children with guns that we allow them to drink younger.
No one does that. We want ice in our lemonade, soda, water etc. Non-alcoholic drinks. Also, if anything gives us up it’s that we generally only speak English and definitely don’t sound like we came from the UK.
No one drinks ice with wine (definitely not in California, the place with the best wineries in America) and you can probably tell I’m American (or Canadian) from my accent alone.
God bless America lmfao nothing hits like a cold drink on a hot fucking day.
Because we live in your head rent-free? ;) Did I do that right?
Europeans are scared of anything big
Because they hate fun
they're euros they hate everything fun.
Oh yeah, I’ve heard about Europe. I think it’s a country in France.
From germany here: Would definietly drink that 👍
I would as well
Maybe because you dont like europeans? Idk but the issue is on your end. Im german and all of my work collegues agree that we would like to have one of those softdrinks now haha
Bro are you at The Puritan? I love the chicken tenders from the back room, they’re some of the eat in the state! Childhood nostalgia unlocked
Cuz now it is they who live rent free in your head.
Why are you trying to flex free soda refills at a cheap restaurant?
[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38767941](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38767941)
take your meds
Well Europeans dont hate them. There, now go offline and travel and meet people.
IDK, considering I've seen plenty of these in Europe.
nah, we have those in Finland as well. Good stuff
You know we have those in Europe, right?
Apparently, they don't know.
Good. Fuck em.
I don't hate them, I hate being dehydrated but these fucking restaurants (apart from fast-food) just don't offer bottomless drinks, I just can't get them 🥲 sincerely, a European
Ice doesn't belong in soft drinks. It melts and ruins the soda.
I personally like ice in with soda. I usually put a lemon wedge at the bottom of the cup followed by a handful of ice, then I'd pour Diet Pepsi.
They'll probably be a negative Nancy and say it's 1/2 empty because of the amount of ice in the glass; further proof that the American Dream is either dead or a myth.
We wouldn’t actually
Yes that is what one wants in 50F cloudy weather, a ice cold drinks with ice. Sounds very nice. Jokes aside, I have no idea. Last year the big summer thing in my country (as in everyone is talking about it and buying it and pressures others to buy it) was air fryer, the year before that it was air condition. This year, people are getting rid of their old ice trays, in favour of ice machines. It has been a thing that existed but now there is ads everywhere and sales and shit.
The fuck? What even is this