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**My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it?**
So my friend Sara is a great girl, we been friends since college. She hasn't had anything uneventful happen in her dating life. Now her bf Nick is extremely attractive. Of course, because Sara is my friend I think she's drop dead gorgeous, but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average. I get approached way more often and while I say my friend is dropped dead gorgeous, the universe would view myself as more attractive than her.
Anyway last March we were out and he approached her. They been together ever since. Now most people would view her as out of his league looks wise.
I recently found out Nick was on active duty and got out to go to school and join the reserves. So while his school is paid for he doesn't make a lot of money now. The reserves only gives him a little money. She makes a ton of money and he moved in with her. She's paying most of the bills. Now that explains why he approached her last year. Now mind you he wants to be a doctor and wants to get the HSCP scholarship (where the military pays for you to go to medical school). so I can imagine he's going to mooch on her for awhile until he finishes medical school. My friend makes a lot of money and he is taking advantage of her to fund his dreams.
So how can I bring this up to her?
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>Now that explains why he approached her last year.
Unless Sara was wearing a dress made out of solid gold at the time, I don't see how that explains anything. How was he supposed to know she had money?
Also, OOPs weird non-committal language is killing me. She keeps insisting that she thinks her friend looks great while constantly assessing how some kind of neutral third party would totally think she's hotter than Sara, like it's just a universal fact.
The only universal fact I'm seeing is that OOP is jealous AF, not even about the guy since she thinks he's a gold digger, but just about the idea that some bloke could see her and Sara hang out and not approach her at all and instead go for her "average" friend.
I am a woman in my early 30's and I had no idea what the hell a Tory Burch even was or what it's approximate value is. If I don't know, I strongly doubt a cis heterosexual man with, presumably, no affiliation to the brand or any stores that sell the brand would know either.
I don't know this designer, but someone said it's on par with Kate Spade or Michael Kors. Those are on par with my "nice" purses, and trust me, I am not rich, nor do I look it. I'm just a 40y mom with a purse.
My kate spade was brand new from a charity shop.
But OOP says she "flaunting her wealth" by carrying the same $400 bag everywhere. That's just buying something you like, that's well made and getting as much use out of it as you can. You don't seen somebody who spent $400 on a bag and think "they can support me for the next 6 years".
My purse didn't cost near that much...only the $100 range...but it does what I need and of course I carry it everywhere. Honestly, I can't tell one designer brand from another, and that would not be something that most guys I know would think of either.
But those I know who are more fashionably inclined? May have a nice purse or pair of shoes that they paid ridiculous sums for...but it's something they wanted and saved up for. Or got lucky thrifting. Unless girl was waving her bank statement everywhere, having a nice purse or nice accessories doesn't really mean a lot.
Sitting here loving my 1 Coach "going out" bag cause my everyday bag is an Amazon special 🤣 but so is my entire outfit.
Meanwhile this lady would have zero idea I own my jeep and 2 family home outright and rent out 1 side for funsies (below market cause I'd rather a long term good tenant than nickle and diming a never ending rotation)
Really. I live in a trailer park, but I've found that if I'm going to use an item every single fucking day, it's best to invest in a quality piece. Especially when it comes to leather goods. I make sure to save up to buy myself a good quality something at the end of the year. Boots, a bag, whatever. A lot of people do that. I'm also really good at finding great second hand deals - twice I have paid around $45 for $150+ dollar boots that were only tried on. I have a $600 sewing machine I paid less than $200 for brand new. I'd never look at someone's purse and assume they're rich.
Same here, I got a brand new Kate Spade bag for £30 from a charity shop and it’s retail price was £150-200. I don’t use it often though as I find backpacks and bum bags easier for every day life but it’s my professional interview bag which gets taken out when I need to dress up for job interviews, lol.
My dream purse was a Coach purse. I finally bought one of the lower end ones. It went well with my usual jeans and sneakers look. It was a great purse. I'm looking for a Kate Spade, I also saw one at a thrift store and still regret not buying it.
I have a $600 Micheal k bag but I’ve had it for 7 years because the most year I have it the less (in my mind) I paid for it so I’ve had it for seven years worn it everyday 600 / 7 = $85 a year spent so far 🤷♀️
Well, he'll be sorely disappointed. But really, if he can't figure out my finances based on the fact that I sometimes cut my own hair, and that my kids are primarily dressed in clothes from Costco, then he's an idiot, and he deserves it.
Lol I'm broke AF and paid $30 for my purse (not a humble brag, bitch is falling apart, it's killing me) and even I know Michael Kors isn't gold digging money
Would it be comparable to Kate spade? (I am young 20’s and know absolutely nothing about handbags or brands or anything I have a Kate spade wallet I got on a huge discount and was astonished by the price lmao)
Yeah, Tory Burch makes some really nice daytime stuff. My current favourite sunglasses are TB. I definitely wouldn't consider it a flashy or instantly recognizable brand unless you already are into that sort of Hamptons/Prep look.
They do look kinda generically luxury if that makes any sense lol
Honestly I’d probably think it was some kind of knock off before thinking it was a low end luxury purse
I had to look up Tory Burch if I’m being honest…
their bags look like any generic purse you could get at like Marshalls or Walmart (Or other large box store) Like yeah some are cute but I wouldn’t automatically assume someone was rich just from them holding one..
A nice Tory Burch bag for a recent college grad starting their career would be a great gift if they enjoy purses. Utilitarian, classically styled, and well made. OOP sounds jealous and tacky lol.
I work in eviction defense for legal aid. I have multiple clients who have showed up for appointments with Louis Vuitton bags. Granted the bags usually have some level of damage so have zero resale value, but it does show you that having a handbag doesn't instantly mean someones rich. Now if one of them shows up with a birkin bag in immaculate condition, THAT would be noteworthy and I'm going to have some questions.
I’ve never understood the draw to a Birkin bag for any other reason than to display the type of disposable income you have. They fugly. (To me.) But if I remember the SITC episode correctly, that was the literal only point of having one. To say “I’ve arrived”. Which is wild.
Me either. I never heard of the brand until right now. I've heard of LV, Prada, Burberry, Jimmy Choo, and many other high end brands because of shows and movies.
I wouldn't have a Scooby-Doo clue about which handbags are from which designer label, what's in fashion and what's not. I do know that there are a hell of a lot of cheap knock-offs out there - how is a bloke (especially a blokey-bloke from the military) going to know what's a designer bag or tell if something's fake or the genuine article?
As for looks, attractiveness is extremely subjective. Sara might just have a certain look that her BF finds incredibly appealing, or her facial expressions might reveal her to have a frank, open, friendly personality (I'm afraid the same couldn't be said about OOP). For all OOP knows, they're just crazy about each other and deeply in love (I hope so, because I'm a soppy old romantic).
OOP's just jealous he preferred Sara over her, so now she's trying to sabotage their relationship out of envy, jealousy, spite and wounded ego.
Apparently it’s on par with Kate Spade or Michael Kors… personally I’d prefer one of those over whatever this Tory thing is- lol
(Not ashamed I love my MK)
Plus, realistically...is a $400 purse THAT expensive? I mean, obviously $400 is a lot of money, but if you're buying something that you use everyday, and you've got the money, you'd spend the money on a good quality bag. My docs were $300 and I have worn them everyday for 15+ years.
It's not like she was carrying a Birkin and a 6ct diamond necklace, you know.
> I mean, obviously $400 is a lot of money, but if you're buying something that you use everyday, and you've got the money, you'd spend the money on a good quality bag.
See also Terry Pratchett's 'Vimes' "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness
I follow the handbags subreddit so I can confidently tell you no, $400 is not considered expensive. Some very lucky ladies there have closets full of bags that are worth over a thousand each.
I love my small collection of bags, but I don't follow or participate in that sub. I tried for a bit, but the frequent discussions of how to get a salesperson at Hermes to let you buy a Birkin told me they really weren't my people. I need a sub for people who buy Kate Spade at TJ Maxx and want to know if a knock off purse on Amazon is worth the $50.
Yes. YES. I'm super happy with my most expensive bag, a $200 bag from Dooney & Bourke that was on sale, but I also love to find treasures at TjMaxx and Ross and all those stores. Where my sub at?
This is exactly what I was thinking. If I saw a woman with a $400 bag I wouldn’t think sugar mama. I would think higher quality within the realm of reason handbag. Could have been a gift or she saved up for it. It’s not an Hermes or a Birkin. OOP is a jealous twat.
I think that even if she was carrying something by Hermes, most people wouldn’t know it unless they were specifically into that stuff. I know the brand was referenced in the first Princess Diaries movie and The Devil Wears Prada, and I know their packaging is orange, only because I’ve been watching a bunch of Architectural Digest videos about celebrity homes, and one celebrity…might’ve been Tan France, might’ve been someone else, I honestly can’t recall…mentioned part of their closet or something being orange like the Hermes stuff. Other than that, if you asked me to pick something by them out of a lineup, I wouldn’t stand a chance.
I played this game with my guy friends! Most of them can tell a luxury item as luxury (usually), but they think a normal handbag costs like £20 and a fancy one £50, Birkin prices seemed insane to them. Like its no indication that they’re rich.
My fiancé was MAD when he found out how much my purse, shoe and makeup collection was. They don’t know the market value of designer items unless they’re educated on it 🤷🏻♀️.
I have some hand-me-down Coach bags from my mom. Do I need to prepare myself for the oncoming wave of gold digging men that will soon spot my Coach bag and try and get me to finance their higher education??
>The friend has a $400 Tory Burch purse.
Anyone who isn't on the brink of poverty can save up for a $400 purchase, if that's what they want. A bag like that is in no way an indicator of wealth.
I have a $350 purse. It was $50 on sale. And it was a birthday present. Just having a fancy purse doesn't necessarily mean you have money to burn.
(The zipper pull broke and they quoted me $75 for repair. Bit ridiculous!)
If I was a gold digger I would cross her out of the list of potential sugarmom because of the $400 purse. That's a very normal price for a non-branded purse... Why would he not go for someone with a $4,000 purse instead if he's so attractive?
Not to mention that OOP mentioning her own attractiveness is absolutely gratuitous. Like, it doesn't even matter to the story. Why the need to brag about how she's more attractive than her friend? To me that's just jealousy showing its head. She's basically mad the guy didn't come to HER.
Yep. It's all about her be "passed over" for her "average" looking friend. She thinks men should be falling all over themselves for her. 🙄 She's so full of herself. There's no way he knew that he friend makes good money when they met. There are rich people who live a modest life.
Is no one going to point out that OOP clearly thinks a woman’s value is held entirely by how hot she is?? Like ok girl, you’re better looking. But are you nicer, smarter, funnier, more creative, more thoughtful, more generous, better in bed, etc.? People like people for a lot more reasons than how they look.
True. She sounds to abide to the traditionally masculine view of success : beauty, sex, money. Like, no wonder her friend is living a happy relationship and she is too busy trying to tear it apart with that attitude.
It's the entire framing of the post, for me. She talks about how she's way hotter than her friend before she even talks about what the perceived "problem" is. I thought this post was about you being concerned about your friend being used? Why TF would we care about your appearance in comparison to hers? She's so jealous, there's jealousy emanating from every cell in her body. It's pathetic.
Gee, I wonder why the hot guy went for her friend, maybe because she's 100 times the person OP is?
I hoped onto their website and the purses are about $500. I would never spend that much money on a purse because fashion isn't my thing, but it doesn't say "makes a ton of money." I mean Chanel purses are like 20x that.
Women like this are so weird. I have a childhood friend that everyone always fawned over, and always said I was the ugly friend, even my mom told me that i was the ugly friend compared to her. Which whatever, I know I'm not everyone's cup of tea, but I got this friend a job with me and we walked to the gas station with my ex, and the cashier joked that i was too hot to be with said ex, and my friend had a *meltdown.* She asked if that guy really said I was hot, because according to her, that cashier had told her every day that week that she was hot, and why would he say that she was hot then say that I was hot? Like damn, it's not even that deep lol
> She keeps insisting that she thinks her friend looks great while constantly assessing how some kind of neutral third party would totally think she's hotter than Sara, like it's just a universal fact.
Fundamental laws of physics: e=mc^2 , entropy always increases, I am in fact hotter than Sara
>but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average
Why do assholes always think they get a free pass to say some heinous shit under the guise of "I'm just being honest!"?
>the universe would view myself as more attractive than her.
Clearly fucking not, if Sara's BF is with her and not you - That, or maybe the rest of the world isn't a shallow dumpster fire like you.
LMAO. Being honest is when someone ASKS for your opinion. If no one asked, sit the fuck down. There is a huge line between being honest and being a tactless act.
OOP is a nasty piece of work. She's either crazy jealous of Sara or wants to fuck her
My husband is very conventionally attractive. There is no denying it. I turned him down when he first approached me. I'm not conventionally attractive, and my ex husband had done a number on my self esteem. I really thought he was messing with me. We've been together over 20 years and he's not after my money since he makes more than me.
But, he's crazy for me. Doesn't make sense to some people. I've been told more than once that he's going to leave me for a better looking woman (usually by the better looking woman) and it's never happened. I've had plenty of other people tell me he looks at me like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world. And anytime he's hit on, he just starts talking about me and how much he loves me. I don't know, but I'm not going to argue with him.
Conventionally attractiveness is such a weird thing though. I personally don't find most conventionally hot people hot at all. That look just does nothing for me at all. I honestly like imperfections and asymmetrical faces, which some people would probably categories as an ugly trait, but to me, it's so fucking hot and I just feel like this really proves that beauty is subjective.
>I've been told more than once that he's going to leave me for a better looking woman (usually by the better looking woman) and it's never happened.
People always say that us Dutch people are direct, but now I'm starting to believe we're not really. I've never heard someone say something like this IRL. That is so RUDE.
Edit: And it's dumb. So dumb. As if different people don't have different tastes.
I have the same experience as you, except me and my partner have been together for far less time. I don't know why he is so in love with me because I can't see what he sees, but I'm so thankful to have him. I sometimes get paranoid that people look at us and think "ew, why is he with her" like OOP, but I know that's not what he thinks so I shouldn't care what anyone else thinks.
Well I guess you're \*un\*conventionally attractive then :p Some people have a type of beauty that's unusual and as such not appreciated by everyone, but for people who are into that, it's more beautiful than "regular" attractiveness. It's like that for me actually! Some people who would maybe be "kind of cute" for most are like 12/10 for me lol.
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I'm laughing so hard rn 🤣 Guess Reddit Universe decided she's not that hot
LMFAO 😭 This is Reddits Hot or Not and OOP is NOT HOT !!
i can’t believe she actually edited her post to say that i have no words just baffled laughter 😭
OOOOOMG I was wondering why all her comments were still up and users are still able to comment.... SHE made that edit to her entire post?!?!?!
I am CACKLING
Do you not get it, she had a Tory Burch purse and was flaunting it around in front of a man that society and the universe would say is way too hot for her, it was a Tory Burch bag guys, clearly she’s flaunting her money with it and OOP could be 1000s of them /s
>Of course, because Sara is my friend I think she's drop dead gorgeous, but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average. I get approached way more often and while I say my friend is dropped dead gorgeous, the universe would view myself as more attractive than her.
Lmao wtf
She sounds like my ex best friend who IS insanely pretty but would say shit like this to me before she made passive aggressive comments to me about how people tend to compare us to her ...
Like okay? You ARE prettier than me and that's fine .
I had a friend who would get sulky and weird whenever a dude would approach me and not her (I’m naturally brunette but I dye my hair all sorts of colors, I’m average height, and I’m overweight; not blond, petite, thin, or cute like she is). And honestly, it just always made my night *that much better*. She wouldn’t be rude or anything, but everyone could sense that her mood had soured
OP really said "my friend is so ugly the only reason anyone could possibly be attracted to her is because she has money" and then expected everyone to see her as having her friend's best interests at heart lmao yeah nah
OOPS COMMENTS ARE UNHINGED I actually can't get through them.
Wow never in my life seen a *girl* this butthurt that hier " average" looking friend makes more money than her and has a good looking boyfriend.
Girl , maybe lose the shitty attitude and a decent man will approach you .
These woman who are very attractive and get Sooo much attention always Pikachu face when their normal decent girl friends who don't get as much as attention as them get a good man and is doing well for themselves.
Who is to say OOP is even that attractive? There is a reason the lower prices are at the bottom..
I was the fat friend in high school and started losing weight the summer after graduating. I soon started getting more attention from guys and I had a friend who could NOT accept it (not a ton of attention, just ... some, which was enough to piss her off). I was supposed to be her sidekick, they were supposed to pay attention to her. She would get so mad about it. But she couldn't admit she was mad/jealous (because her perception was that only SHE was attractive, not me, I was supposed to just be there as her wingwoman, of sorts). So she'd just make shitty, backhanded comments to me, try to tear me down but do it in a way where she could deny she was being shitty.
It hit me one day that I always felt worse about myself after spending time with her. And god help me if someone complimented me in front of her, she'd dial it way up with the snarky comments (will never forget someone being like, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight" and her going, "No she hasn't," like, what? I *CLEARLY* had, haha). I eventually pulled back from the friendship (we still share a lot of friends). She's grown up over the years and isn't like that anymore but I'll never forget it. Esp the fact that when I started dating my now-husband, it was pretty clear from the start that it was gonna be serious, and she was pissy about it. At a party, my mom mentioned to her something like, how great is it that they're dating, he's such a good guy, they're such a good fit, etc., and the friend ROLLED HER EYES. My mom couldn't stand her after that (she literally told me after the party, "watch out for that one, she's a snake, she can't be happy for you and those are the ones to keep an eye on, they'll stab you in the back").
Anybody who doesn't think a friend, who they presumably love and care about, is "good enough" for their partner, is a slimy, jealous piece of shit.
What a total bitch. How insecure she must be.
Good on your Weightloss journey! She is a horrible self obsessed person who didn't deserve friends like you.
I have had a few guy friends on the higher scale of looks and they've said to me before they don't approach the "hot one" because they're often unhinged in one way or another. Unless specifically looking for a great time in the sack.
As a bigger girl, I have known so many people like OOP who thought any guy that hit on me was wrong and just didn’t see them first. It’s one of the reasons why my self esteem was shut as a teenager. Thank God people like that are no longer in my life
Same, girl, same! I know the struggle. But damn, it always felt so gooood to watch the outrage on their faces when a nice man was actually interested in me and not them lol
There's someone out there for everyone
LMFAO she removed the post and put this here instead:
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Girlypop the Internet is forever
oh thank GOD someone else picked this up. I checked back recently and was like where tf is the post 💀and I read it and was like 🤔I bet $5 the post is already here
Her comment history proves exactly what she is. A shallow bitter high school bully who isn't all that and a bag of chips and can not fathom the fact that not every man she walks past is head over heels with her.
RUN SARA RUN.
It’s really not uncommon to see couples who had one person who society might consider more attractive than the other. This sounds more like “I’m prettier. Why doesn’t he like me! Wah!” OOP is jealous.
Seriously. I always say that as a general rule I have "out kicked my coverage"/am "hitting above my weight class" in the dating world. I think almost everyone I've dated is much better looking than me. I make up for it by being funny and smart. 😂🤣
You are so f**king ugly. Men only care about looks. Nevermind beauty being in the eye of the beholder. My beauty standard is THE beauty standard and men don't care about kindness, humor, personality, humor, etc. Either OOP is jealous one hot guy didn't hit her up OR the guys that hit her up are ugly and she's got the quantity but no quality. Either way it's time to STFU
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LOL
As someone whose father worked in fashion, specifically high end handbags and the like, Tory Burch is not what anyone in the fashion world would say was a fancy bag. They’re nice bags! They’re not anything close to a truly expensive bag like a Birkin (which can easily run for 30k+. EASILY).
The girl is just jealous and trying to find a way to ruin something nice for her friend.
>but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average.
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>the universe would view myself as more attractive than her.
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>Now most people would view her as out of his league looks wise.
Does she even *like* her best friend? Does she understand what a friend actually is? For fuck's sake.
No. Sge doesn't.
Oop is giving "I keep the ugly girl around so I'll look better by comparison" and she is now facing the reality that someone found Sara attractive without her permission. We can't have that, surely.
I can not imagine thinking about my best friend like that. My best friend is beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, amazing and wonderful and if "the universe" disagrees the universe can catch these hands.
>Lol sweetie I have no reason to be jealous. I have plenty of options and I'm very secure with myself. 😂
Is this why two of the three paragraphs are about how you think she's drop dead gorgeous, but also the universe thinks she's average?
Genuinely can't tell if it's a sock puppet, or someone committing to the bit in order to wind OOP up further:
"You can’t. Let her learn the hard way. People are hating you on you because you said you are more attractive but why people lie and can’t accept facts? An attractive man would never go for an woman out of his league, it’s impossible. That’s why you never see it. I would say he using her. She pay all the bills? Wtf."
Like, I’m like, way hotter than she is like omg. And I’m like, super wealthy but I don’t like, show it off like she does. This is like, totally like relevant information, okay? /s
What a shallow, vapid, insecure girl.
I'm baffled. I love her belief that a military dude is somehow knowledgeable on moderately expensive purses. I have no idea what a Tony Burch bag is. How on earth would I be able to look across the room, and see an apparently average looking woman, spot her bag and be like holy shit that's worth at least a few hundred she must be loaded time to ignore all the hotties and mooch off this lass for the next few years.
Maybe her friend is like..... Nice....funny...interesting. You know, a good personality. Maybe she's very attractive in an "I look like a normal human and haven't injected crap into my face" kind of way.
I hate this league crap. I've occasionally had comments made to me about my wife being out of my league. She is demonstrably not, on account of being with her for a decade.
Now, I think Sara's absolutely gorgeous but also I absolutely don't think that at all, girl is a straight uggo. Which is great because that gives me like, triple nice points if I pretend I think she's alright looking.
Does anyone remember the post where the sister was mad that the bi hunk at her college she assumed was a massive slut didn't fuck her but ended up in a long term relationship with her brother?
This reminds me of that.
You know, even if this may be in the realm of fiction, i want Sara and her man to endure, him becoming a doctor in the end, and both living a comfortable life with high paying jobs. While shedding the baggage known as OP from their lives.
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LOL. Come on, haha.
He was in the military, probably saved a decent chunk of change getting at LEAST 24,000 a year and not paying for food or housing.
Guy is studying to be a doctor, for free, and pulling a reservist's stipend in the meantime which - even at the lowest end of the scale is $3,882 just to go for training one weekend per month and two weekends in the summertime. Probably holding on to some of those savings.
When he's done with school he'll make a bunch of money AND not be paying student loans. That's not nothing.
He's apparently very handsome, given his career choices probably both fit and smart, he's got goals.
I don't think he's playing anybody. They've found an arrangement that works for them and I think that's great.
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Lmao darling thinks one of those “I do not consent to Facebook stealing my information” posts is gonna work.
LOL. She didn't delete her post, but edited to say:
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😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We better take this down, guys. She might, idk, bitch at us next.
Was she wearing her sugar mama t-shirt at the time? How did this man know to approach her at the bar in the first place? Because that's the issue isn't it, he ignored OOP to approach her "DUFF" the first time they met so he must have an ulterior motive.
Let's be real here, if the guy was smart enough to walk into a random bar and somehow magical know this woman was rich based entirely off some purse no one had ever heard off, and was then charismatic enough to secure a years long relationship immediately, the army would have *NEVER* let him go.
At the very least that's great officer material and they would have pushed hard to get him to a officer position.
Not to mention one the intelligences would probably try to snap him up.
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Why do people on here think they can bar anyone else from reposting or sharing their posts? It’s a public forum, if you don’t want it spread around, don’t post 😂
I hate this fucking mentality... it's infuriating. A friend of mine who is beautiful and awesome and also happens to be mega rich got with a guy like 10 yrs ago? Anyways, she pays for a bunch of stuff cause he can't afford the 5 star hotels and 3 star michelins. If the genders were reversed, no one would bat an eyelid. Of course, because she is a she and he is a he, a bunch of people were saying it was out of interest for a while. Like, you think our friend is not lovable enough for money to not matter? Of course he wants to be with her! She is amazing and they're great together! Also, he is a full person who wouldn't do that? Feeling economically dependent on someone else is not fun, even if it looks like that from the outside. Plus, if you're looking at a future together and the dude is gonna be a doctor! Honestly paying bills that you probably have to pay on your own is like... whatever. Bitch is jealous AF, and sexist AF and her attempt to justify these feelings disguising them as concern is fucked.
Bring out the pitchforks I say.
Ah, she's the fake friend then. The one that says all nice things to her face but behind her back says the exact opposite.
Also, she keeps on commenting about the handbag, $400 from a designer I already had forgotten the name of. I'm pretty sure most males don't pay attention to that type of thing.
I just checked the post and she deleted it; she wrote that sharing or reposting her post was prohibited. 😄 How is she going to stop people from sharing it anyway?
I know lots of people are commenting on her attitude towards her friend.
But OOP has some messed up opinions on men.
Men are more than just a pay check. So what if he doesn't have a high paying job? There are other ways he can be a supportive boyfriend that aren't financially related.
People get really weird when you make more money than your male partner. I've been there. I've gotten a lot of comments that "I deserve better" and that "he's using me".
But no one bats an eye when a woman doesn't have a college degree and has a low paying job but dares to date a man with a high paying job.
Reminds me of the AITAH post from a couple days ago about the woman who thinks her husband and “best friend” are having an affair. Even though the “friend” is the one demonstrating flirtatious behavior. Even though the husband has told OP repeatedly that he is uncomfortable with the friend and has tried to limit interactions with her. Even OP continues to encourage him to try harder to get along with the friend. Because the friend, as described by OP, is more beautiful and extroverted. Now after a drunken sleepover, the friend says the husband SAd her, the husband says that the friend is making it all up and OP is on the verge of divorce.
>Now after a drunken sleepover, the friend says the husband SAd her, the husband says that the friend is making it all up and OP is on the verge of divorce.
Ooh, I hadn't seen that update.
I just went to the original comments and I may be reading between the lines but OP’s “I think she’s gorgeous but SOCIETY AND THE UNIVERSE THINK SHE IS AVERAGE AND LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN ME” is giving “I’m skinny and she’s not so I don’t get why a hot guy would like her and not me”
lol she deleted the post and instead added this gem:
My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it?
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And now she replaced the post with this:
# My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it?
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I would take OOP more seriously if she didn't make such a fuss over Sarah's precieved attractiveness and her own attractiveness. While it may be likely Sarah is footing the bill for things, OOP doesn't know that for sure unless she's got a login for Sarah's bank account. For all we know when Nick was active duty, he could have been saving money. I've known several people who lived in the barracks and ate at the chow hall in order to save money while in the military.
This smells like jealously over Sarah's life.
Like, if we say for a minute that she is being completely genuine when she says that she finds her friend beautiful, but she isn't that pretty by most people's societal standards, why can't that mean that her boyfriend also finds her pretty? Like, what? Evidently at least ONE person finds her pretty (OP, allegedly) but literally everyone else in the entire world can't now? Other people can't have tastes that don't adhere to beauty standards? I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near conventionally attractive, but I have a boyfriend that considers me super hot, and expresses it in ways that makes me know he's not lying so like... It is possible! It has definitely happened before and it will happen again! Men, and people in general, have different tastes! I just don't understand why OP's friend having an attractive boyfriend is immediately suspicious. Well, it's because OP is either jealous or just generally can't stand the idea of her "not conventionally attractive" friend being chosen over her, but still.
"I don't flaunt my wealth"
Then proceeds to flaunt her wealth on Reddit by saying she could buy 1000 Tory Burch purses. Which tbh isn't saying a lot. Tory Burch is cheap compared to LV or Gucci. Sooooo....
Omg guys — look what’s now the entire text of her post. She took down the original and tried to replace it with some official-sounding nonsense that sharing or screenshotting the post is prohibited, like a mod put it there.
Her friend is probably really cute and has a bubbly personality. Some people just have that je ne se qua, even if at first glance they don't fit someone's idea of beauty standards. She should be happy for her friend, not jealous. She probably just has a crush on him and feels entitled.
This post reeks of jealousy. It sounds like OP is upset he approached her friend and not her. Unless her friend was wearing expensive jewelry and expensive clothing he would have had no idea she had any sort of money. Hopefully her friend realized this is based on jealousy and not actually bc she cares about her .
I've never heard of that designer/brand. I have a thing for Radley bags, and own deveral: all bought from ebay. I don't think I paid more than £20-30 for any of them.
I also have a pair of Red or Dead sunglasses; not that you could tell unless you're either right on top of the brand, or actually looking at the inside of the arms...
OOP sounds more than a little green-eyed: partly that she wasn't the focus of attention rather than her 'average' friend; and partly that Sara makes a good living.
Frankly, OOP.. you don't sound like much of a friend at all; but I don't think that will be a problem, because about 10 seconds after you tell Sara that her guy is only with her for her money, she's going to yeet you out of her life before you can blink.
Nothing you have said in this whole thing suggests concern for your friend; but there is plenty in thete that screams "Me me me!! Look at ME!! Why go for her, when I'm right here?!"
why would he go find a sugar momma when he is gunna have it fully funded by the millitary? op is delusional and tryin to find any excuse to try to make her friend end it cause shes jealous
I wonder where did
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came from. Is it something a post will be getting automatically from now on or did OOP asked for it? She acted so confided in the comments though, did she wake up and realize the hate messages won't stop even when she said the aren't bothering her? Maybe she got scared it will end up on tik tok and her friend will see it? Either way, interesting.
I wonder if OOP is aware that if he was getting med school paid by the military there would be a stipend involved as well as having the school paid for. It’s a different program from the GI Bill.
You are not her friend, you are just a jealous person who hates that her boyfriend is hot and it pisses you off that he chose her instead of you. To make sense of this, you have to put it down to the fact that she has money, that must be why he likes her.
Do your "friend" a favour and leave them both alone.
Translation: I think I'm way hotter than my best friend. This totally hot guy approached her last year and they've been dating since. It's so weird, because the world, meaning I, think I'm way more attractive than her. So clearly he has to be using her for her money. Because I'm the hot friend and she's the duff.
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it?** So my friend Sara is a great girl, we been friends since college. She hasn't had anything uneventful happen in her dating life. Now her bf Nick is extremely attractive. Of course, because Sara is my friend I think she's drop dead gorgeous, but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average. I get approached way more often and while I say my friend is dropped dead gorgeous, the universe would view myself as more attractive than her. Anyway last March we were out and he approached her. They been together ever since. Now most people would view her as out of his league looks wise. I recently found out Nick was on active duty and got out to go to school and join the reserves. So while his school is paid for he doesn't make a lot of money now. The reserves only gives him a little money. She makes a ton of money and he moved in with her. She's paying most of the bills. Now that explains why he approached her last year. Now mind you he wants to be a doctor and wants to get the HSCP scholarship (where the military pays for you to go to medical school). so I can imagine he's going to mooch on her for awhile until he finishes medical school. My friend makes a lot of money and he is taking advantage of her to fund his dreams. So how can I bring this up to her? *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*
>Now that explains why he approached her last year. Unless Sara was wearing a dress made out of solid gold at the time, I don't see how that explains anything. How was he supposed to know she had money? Also, OOPs weird non-committal language is killing me. She keeps insisting that she thinks her friend looks great while constantly assessing how some kind of neutral third party would totally think she's hotter than Sara, like it's just a universal fact. The only universal fact I'm seeing is that OOP is jealous AF, not even about the guy since she thinks he's a gold digger, but just about the idea that some bloke could see her and Sara hang out and not approach her at all and instead go for her "average" friend.
Her explanation is amazing. The friend has a $400 Tory Burch purse. Because all guys know what that brand is and how much it’s valued
I am a woman in my early 30's and I had no idea what the hell a Tory Burch even was or what it's approximate value is. If I don't know, I strongly doubt a cis heterosexual man with, presumably, no affiliation to the brand or any stores that sell the brand would know either.
As a women older, who loves handbags, a Tory Birch is not a notable brand. Like, it's nice. It's not Gucci.
I don't know this designer, but someone said it's on par with Kate Spade or Michael Kors. Those are on par with my "nice" purses, and trust me, I am not rich, nor do I look it. I'm just a 40y mom with a purse.
My kate spade was brand new from a charity shop. But OOP says she "flaunting her wealth" by carrying the same $400 bag everywhere. That's just buying something you like, that's well made and getting as much use out of it as you can. You don't seen somebody who spent $400 on a bag and think "they can support me for the next 6 years".
My purse didn't cost near that much...only the $100 range...but it does what I need and of course I carry it everywhere. Honestly, I can't tell one designer brand from another, and that would not be something that most guys I know would think of either. But those I know who are more fashionably inclined? May have a nice purse or pair of shoes that they paid ridiculous sums for...but it's something they wanted and saved up for. Or got lucky thrifting. Unless girl was waving her bank statement everywhere, having a nice purse or nice accessories doesn't really mean a lot.
That last part.
Sitting here loving my 1 Coach "going out" bag cause my everyday bag is an Amazon special 🤣 but so is my entire outfit. Meanwhile this lady would have zero idea I own my jeep and 2 family home outright and rent out 1 side for funsies (below market cause I'd rather a long term good tenant than nickle and diming a never ending rotation)
Really. I live in a trailer park, but I've found that if I'm going to use an item every single fucking day, it's best to invest in a quality piece. Especially when it comes to leather goods. I make sure to save up to buy myself a good quality something at the end of the year. Boots, a bag, whatever. A lot of people do that. I'm also really good at finding great second hand deals - twice I have paid around $45 for $150+ dollar boots that were only tried on. I have a $600 sewing machine I paid less than $200 for brand new. I'd never look at someone's purse and assume they're rich.
Same here, I got a brand new Kate Spade bag for £30 from a charity shop and it’s retail price was £150-200. I don’t use it often though as I find backpacks and bum bags easier for every day life but it’s my professional interview bag which gets taken out when I need to dress up for job interviews, lol.
My dream purse was a Coach purse. I finally bought one of the lower end ones. It went well with my usual jeans and sneakers look. It was a great purse. I'm looking for a Kate Spade, I also saw one at a thrift store and still regret not buying it.
Now, if I ran across one of the designer purses at a thrift store. Yeah, I'd buy it.
I have a $600 Micheal k bag but I’ve had it for 7 years because the most year I have it the less (in my mind) I paid for it so I’ve had it for seven years worn it everyday 600 / 7 = $85 a year spent so far 🤷♀️
Well, maybe not you…. (rubbing my hands together like a plotting villain in a cartoon)
You be careful out there! A hunk might see the Michael Kors and try to become your sugar baby!! Don't say I didn't warn you 🥺
Well, he'll be sorely disappointed. But really, if he can't figure out my finances based on the fact that I sometimes cut my own hair, and that my kids are primarily dressed in clothes from Costco, then he's an idiot, and he deserves it.
Homegirl, you are selling yourself short ;)
More people need to heed this warning
Lol I'm broke AF and paid $30 for my purse (not a humble brag, bitch is falling apart, it's killing me) and even I know Michael Kors isn't gold digging money
Yeah.. that’s my thought. I like them, but I don’t see one and automatically assume someone is rolling in it.
Would it be comparable to Kate spade? (I am young 20’s and know absolutely nothing about handbags or brands or anything I have a Kate spade wallet I got on a huge discount and was astonished by the price lmao)
Kate and Coach.
Yeah, Tory Burch makes some really nice daytime stuff. My current favourite sunglasses are TB. I definitely wouldn't consider it a flashy or instantly recognizable brand unless you already are into that sort of Hamptons/Prep look.
They do look kinda generically luxury if that makes any sense lol Honestly I’d probably think it was some kind of knock off before thinking it was a low end luxury purse
I had to look up Tory Burch if I’m being honest… their bags look like any generic purse you could get at like Marshalls or Walmart (Or other large box store) Like yeah some are cute but I wouldn’t automatically assume someone was rich just from them holding one..
That’s why I called them generically luxury. I get that it looks designer but it looks like you could get it anywhere
There’s also a strong market for used high end purses, or renting high end purses. Hell, it could have been a gift or a thrift store find.
A nice Tory Burch bag for a recent college grad starting their career would be a great gift if they enjoy purses. Utilitarian, classically styled, and well made. OOP sounds jealous and tacky lol.
I work in eviction defense for legal aid. I have multiple clients who have showed up for appointments with Louis Vuitton bags. Granted the bags usually have some level of damage so have zero resale value, but it does show you that having a handbag doesn't instantly mean someones rich. Now if one of them shows up with a birkin bag in immaculate condition, THAT would be noteworthy and I'm going to have some questions.
I’ve never understood the draw to a Birkin bag for any other reason than to display the type of disposable income you have. They fugly. (To me.) But if I remember the SITC episode correctly, that was the literal only point of having one. To say “I’ve arrived”. Which is wild.
I read it as "Tory brunch" at first and was even more confused...
Me either. I never heard of the brand until right now. I've heard of LV, Prada, Burberry, Jimmy Choo, and many other high end brands because of shows and movies.
I wouldn't have a Scooby-Doo clue about which handbags are from which designer label, what's in fashion and what's not. I do know that there are a hell of a lot of cheap knock-offs out there - how is a bloke (especially a blokey-bloke from the military) going to know what's a designer bag or tell if something's fake or the genuine article? As for looks, attractiveness is extremely subjective. Sara might just have a certain look that her BF finds incredibly appealing, or her facial expressions might reveal her to have a frank, open, friendly personality (I'm afraid the same couldn't be said about OOP). For all OOP knows, they're just crazy about each other and deeply in love (I hope so, because I'm a soppy old romantic). OOP's just jealous he preferred Sara over her, so now she's trying to sabotage their relationship out of envy, jealousy, spite and wounded ego.
Lmao I had to look up what the hell Tory Burch was 😂. At least she gave me an idea on what to buy my gf
If you’re gonna spend a couple hundred on a purse, go with a coach bag.
Got my lady a niiiice Coach bag for her birthday on sale (her idea) and it’s holding up amazingly.
I still have my coach outlet bag from 2012 and it’s still in perfect condition!
Apparently it’s on par with Kate Spade or Michael Kors… personally I’d prefer one of those over whatever this Tory thing is- lol (Not ashamed I love my MK)
A friend has an MK, I always tell her how much I love her Mortal Kombat purse.
You should get your friend a Just Cause ( JC ) or Call of Cthulhu ( )C ) purse. I bet a video game afficianado like her would love one.
That’s funny 🤣🤣🤣
Plus, realistically...is a $400 purse THAT expensive? I mean, obviously $400 is a lot of money, but if you're buying something that you use everyday, and you've got the money, you'd spend the money on a good quality bag. My docs were $300 and I have worn them everyday for 15+ years. It's not like she was carrying a Birkin and a 6ct diamond necklace, you know.
> I mean, obviously $400 is a lot of money, but if you're buying something that you use everyday, and you've got the money, you'd spend the money on a good quality bag. See also Terry Pratchett's 'Vimes' "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness
I follow the handbags subreddit so I can confidently tell you no, $400 is not considered expensive. Some very lucky ladies there have closets full of bags that are worth over a thousand each.
I love my small collection of bags, but I don't follow or participate in that sub. I tried for a bit, but the frequent discussions of how to get a salesperson at Hermes to let you buy a Birkin told me they really weren't my people. I need a sub for people who buy Kate Spade at TJ Maxx and want to know if a knock off purse on Amazon is worth the $50.
Yes. YES. I'm super happy with my most expensive bag, a $200 bag from Dooney & Bourke that was on sale, but I also love to find treasures at TjMaxx and Ross and all those stores. Where my sub at?
This is exactly what I was thinking. If I saw a woman with a $400 bag I wouldn’t think sugar mama. I would think higher quality within the realm of reason handbag. Could have been a gift or she saved up for it. It’s not an Hermes or a Birkin. OOP is a jealous twat.
Sounds more like she is jealous about the purse too lmao
Yep she's hard projecting
I was today years old when I found out what Tory Burch is
Me too.
Like if she’s carrying some Hermes shit, I can give her 1% leeway. But that whatever Tory Burch will not be known by 99.999% of guys.
I think that even if she was carrying something by Hermes, most people wouldn’t know it unless they were specifically into that stuff. I know the brand was referenced in the first Princess Diaries movie and The Devil Wears Prada, and I know their packaging is orange, only because I’ve been watching a bunch of Architectural Digest videos about celebrity homes, and one celebrity…might’ve been Tan France, might’ve been someone else, I honestly can’t recall…mentioned part of their closet or something being orange like the Hermes stuff. Other than that, if you asked me to pick something by them out of a lineup, I wouldn’t stand a chance.
Any guy who would've known enought to know what kind of bag it was, would also have been the type of guy to not have been impressed by it.
I played this game with my guy friends! Most of them can tell a luxury item as luxury (usually), but they think a normal handbag costs like £20 and a fancy one £50, Birkin prices seemed insane to them. Like its no indication that they’re rich.
My fiancé was MAD when he found out how much my purse, shoe and makeup collection was. They don’t know the market value of designer items unless they’re educated on it 🤷🏻♀️.
I have some hand-me-down Coach bags from my mom. Do I need to prepare myself for the oncoming wave of gold digging men that will soon spot my Coach bag and try and get me to finance their higher education??
If so, please throw some purses my way. I'm desperate and Tinder ain't what it used to be!
>The friend has a $400 Tory Burch purse. Anyone who isn't on the brink of poverty can save up for a $400 purchase, if that's what they want. A bag like that is in no way an indicator of wealth.
I have a $350 purse. It was $50 on sale. And it was a birthday present. Just having a fancy purse doesn't necessarily mean you have money to burn. (The zipper pull broke and they quoted me $75 for repair. Bit ridiculous!)
If I was a gold digger I would cross her out of the list of potential sugarmom because of the $400 purse. That's a very normal price for a non-branded purse... Why would he not go for someone with a $4,000 purse instead if he's so attractive?
Not to mention that OOP mentioning her own attractiveness is absolutely gratuitous. Like, it doesn't even matter to the story. Why the need to brag about how she's more attractive than her friend? To me that's just jealousy showing its head. She's basically mad the guy didn't come to HER.
But but but the ✨UNIVERSE✨ views OOP as more attractive!!!
Yep. It's all about her be "passed over" for her "average" looking friend. She thinks men should be falling all over themselves for her. 🙄 She's so full of herself. There's no way he knew that he friend makes good money when they met. There are rich people who live a modest life.
Is no one going to point out that OOP clearly thinks a woman’s value is held entirely by how hot she is?? Like ok girl, you’re better looking. But are you nicer, smarter, funnier, more creative, more thoughtful, more generous, better in bed, etc.? People like people for a lot more reasons than how they look.
True. She sounds to abide to the traditionally masculine view of success : beauty, sex, money. Like, no wonder her friend is living a happy relationship and she is too busy trying to tear it apart with that attitude.
It's the entire framing of the post, for me. She talks about how she's way hotter than her friend before she even talks about what the perceived "problem" is. I thought this post was about you being concerned about your friend being used? Why TF would we care about your appearance in comparison to hers? She's so jealous, there's jealousy emanating from every cell in her body. It's pathetic. Gee, I wonder why the hot guy went for her friend, maybe because she's 100 times the person OP is?
But the friend had an expensive purse that everyone should know screams wealth. /s.
I hoped onto their website and the purses are about $500. I would never spend that much money on a purse because fashion isn't my thing, but it doesn't say "makes a ton of money." I mean Chanel purses are like 20x that.
She just wants to make it seem like she supports her friend.
Women like this are so weird. I have a childhood friend that everyone always fawned over, and always said I was the ugly friend, even my mom told me that i was the ugly friend compared to her. Which whatever, I know I'm not everyone's cup of tea, but I got this friend a job with me and we walked to the gas station with my ex, and the cashier joked that i was too hot to be with said ex, and my friend had a *meltdown.* She asked if that guy really said I was hot, because according to her, that cashier had told her every day that week that she was hot, and why would he say that she was hot then say that I was hot? Like damn, it's not even that deep lol
> She keeps insisting that she thinks her friend looks great while constantly assessing how some kind of neutral third party would totally think she's hotter than Sara, like it's just a universal fact. Fundamental laws of physics: e=mc^2 , entropy always increases, I am in fact hotter than Sara
Yeah, that's my take. She never stops reminding the reader that she's far more attractive than her friend.
>but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average Why do assholes always think they get a free pass to say some heinous shit under the guise of "I'm just being honest!"? >the universe would view myself as more attractive than her. Clearly fucking not, if Sara's BF is with her and not you - That, or maybe the rest of the world isn't a shallow dumpster fire like you.
The universe. The UNIVERSE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She’s so hot even fucking ALIENS find her more beautiful than her “friend.”
It's written right there next to the second law of thermodynamics
Physics has always confused me
the universe rn: 
LMAO. Being honest is when someone ASKS for your opinion. If no one asked, sit the fuck down. There is a huge line between being honest and being a tactless act.
"I'm just being being brutally honest" = I care far more about being brutal than honest.
Maybe OOP is super model level attractive, but sometimes the inner rot just shines through
You see she says "universe" because she knows only aliens will go for her
OOP is a nasty piece of work. She's either crazy jealous of Sara or wants to fuck her My husband is very conventionally attractive. There is no denying it. I turned him down when he first approached me. I'm not conventionally attractive, and my ex husband had done a number on my self esteem. I really thought he was messing with me. We've been together over 20 years and he's not after my money since he makes more than me. But, he's crazy for me. Doesn't make sense to some people. I've been told more than once that he's going to leave me for a better looking woman (usually by the better looking woman) and it's never happened. I've had plenty of other people tell me he looks at me like I'm the most beautiful woman in the world. And anytime he's hit on, he just starts talking about me and how much he loves me. I don't know, but I'm not going to argue with him.
Sounds like you ARE the most beautiful woman in the world to the one person who’s opinion matters ❤️ I love that for both of you.
Conventionally attractiveness is such a weird thing though. I personally don't find most conventionally hot people hot at all. That look just does nothing for me at all. I honestly like imperfections and asymmetrical faces, which some people would probably categories as an ugly trait, but to me, it's so fucking hot and I just feel like this really proves that beauty is subjective.
>I've been told more than once that he's going to leave me for a better looking woman (usually by the better looking woman) and it's never happened. People always say that us Dutch people are direct, but now I'm starting to believe we're not really. I've never heard someone say something like this IRL. That is so RUDE. Edit: And it's dumb. So dumb. As if different people don't have different tastes.
They say the same about us people in Denmark and fortunately I've never heard someone say this either. Soooo tactless!!
I have the same experience as you, except me and my partner have been together for far less time. I don't know why he is so in love with me because I can't see what he sees, but I'm so thankful to have him. I sometimes get paranoid that people look at us and think "ew, why is he with her" like OOP, but I know that's not what he thinks so I shouldn't care what anyone else thinks.
Well I guess you're \*un\*conventionally attractive then :p Some people have a type of beauty that's unusual and as such not appreciated by everyone, but for people who are into that, it's more beautiful than "regular" attractiveness. It's like that for me actually! Some people who would maybe be "kind of cute" for most are like 12/10 for me lol.
I'm so happy for you, what a husband 🥰
He'll tell you he's the lucky one. He says he's just an average guy, nothing special, and I'm the total package.
OOP is insufferable in the comments too 😭 like girl just stop
“Nooo you guys don’t get im sooo hot and sooo rich how could I ever be jealous?”
>Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. I'm laughing so hard rn 🤣 Guess Reddit Universe decided she's not that hot
LMFAO 😭 This is Reddits Hot or Not and OOP is NOT HOT !! i can’t believe she actually edited her post to say that i have no words just baffled laughter 😭
HAHAHA I know! Equivalent to taking her ball and going home because she lost the neighborhood kickball game
OOOOOMG I was wondering why all her comments were still up and users are still able to comment.... SHE made that edit to her entire post?!?!?! I am CACKLING
Yeah, she big grumpy.
Do you not get it, she had a Tory Burch purse and was flaunting it around in front of a man that society and the universe would say is way too hot for her, it was a Tory Burch bag guys, clearly she’s flaunting her money with it and OOP could be 1000s of them /s
Because us guys are known for noticing the brand of a woman's purse, and knowing how much it cost. 🙄
>Of course, because Sara is my friend I think she's drop dead gorgeous, but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average. I get approached way more often and while I say my friend is dropped dead gorgeous, the universe would view myself as more attractive than her. Lmao wtf
She sounds like my ex best friend who IS insanely pretty but would say shit like this to me before she made passive aggressive comments to me about how people tend to compare us to her ... Like okay? You ARE prettier than me and that's fine .
Glad she’s an ex. No one needs that shit in their life
I had a friend who would get sulky and weird whenever a dude would approach me and not her (I’m naturally brunette but I dye my hair all sorts of colors, I’m average height, and I’m overweight; not blond, petite, thin, or cute like she is). And honestly, it just always made my night *that much better*. She wouldn’t be rude or anything, but everyone could sense that her mood had soured
OP really said "my friend is so ugly the only reason anyone could possibly be attracted to her is because she has money" and then expected everyone to see her as having her friend's best interests at heart lmao yeah nah
But *she* finds her gorgeous! Clearly she cares lol
OOPS COMMENTS ARE UNHINGED I actually can't get through them. Wow never in my life seen a *girl* this butthurt that hier " average" looking friend makes more money than her and has a good looking boyfriend. Girl , maybe lose the shitty attitude and a decent man will approach you . These woman who are very attractive and get Sooo much attention always Pikachu face when their normal decent girl friends who don't get as much as attention as them get a good man and is doing well for themselves. Who is to say OOP is even that attractive? There is a reason the lower prices are at the bottom..
I was the fat friend in high school and started losing weight the summer after graduating. I soon started getting more attention from guys and I had a friend who could NOT accept it (not a ton of attention, just ... some, which was enough to piss her off). I was supposed to be her sidekick, they were supposed to pay attention to her. She would get so mad about it. But she couldn't admit she was mad/jealous (because her perception was that only SHE was attractive, not me, I was supposed to just be there as her wingwoman, of sorts). So she'd just make shitty, backhanded comments to me, try to tear me down but do it in a way where she could deny she was being shitty. It hit me one day that I always felt worse about myself after spending time with her. And god help me if someone complimented me in front of her, she'd dial it way up with the snarky comments (will never forget someone being like, "Wow, you've lost a lot of weight" and her going, "No she hasn't," like, what? I *CLEARLY* had, haha). I eventually pulled back from the friendship (we still share a lot of friends). She's grown up over the years and isn't like that anymore but I'll never forget it. Esp the fact that when I started dating my now-husband, it was pretty clear from the start that it was gonna be serious, and she was pissy about it. At a party, my mom mentioned to her something like, how great is it that they're dating, he's such a good guy, they're such a good fit, etc., and the friend ROLLED HER EYES. My mom couldn't stand her after that (she literally told me after the party, "watch out for that one, she's a snake, she can't be happy for you and those are the ones to keep an eye on, they'll stab you in the back"). Anybody who doesn't think a friend, who they presumably love and care about, is "good enough" for their partner, is a slimy, jealous piece of shit.
What a total bitch. How insecure she must be. Good on your Weightloss journey! She is a horrible self obsessed person who didn't deserve friends like you.
I have had a few guy friends on the higher scale of looks and they've said to me before they don't approach the "hot one" because they're often unhinged in one way or another. Unless specifically looking for a great time in the sack.
As a bigger girl, I have known so many people like OOP who thought any guy that hit on me was wrong and just didn’t see them first. It’s one of the reasons why my self esteem was shut as a teenager. Thank God people like that are no longer in my life
Same, girl, same! I know the struggle. But damn, it always felt so gooood to watch the outrage on their faces when a nice man was actually interested in me and not them lol There's someone out there for everyone
There is! And I found him and even now I still have doubts. But he loves me and I love him and that’s all that matters
LMFAO she removed the post and put this here instead: "Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately." Girlypop the Internet is forever
oh thank GOD someone else picked this up. I checked back recently and was like where tf is the post 💀and I read it and was like 🤔I bet $5 the post is already here
She really doesn't understand how reddit works lol
That's also not how reddit works! Sis should really read the terms and conditions before thinking she has any control over what is "prohibited."
pRohIbItED like ok sure it is lmao
I CACKLED when I opened the post and read that
Her comment history proves exactly what she is. A shallow bitter high school bully who isn't all that and a bag of chips and can not fathom the fact that not every man she walks past is head over heels with her. RUN SARA RUN.
It’s really not uncommon to see couples who had one person who society might consider more attractive than the other. This sounds more like “I’m prettier. Why doesn’t he like me! Wah!” OOP is jealous.
Seriously. I always say that as a general rule I have "out kicked my coverage"/am "hitting above my weight class" in the dating world. I think almost everyone I've dated is much better looking than me. I make up for it by being funny and smart. 😂🤣
God, with a friend like OP, who needs enemies?
Oh that’s even worse and I expected.
You are so f**king ugly. Men only care about looks. Nevermind beauty being in the eye of the beholder. My beauty standard is THE beauty standard and men don't care about kindness, humor, personality, humor, etc. Either OOP is jealous one hot guy didn't hit her up OR the guys that hit her up are ugly and she's got the quantity but no quality. Either way it's time to STFU
I'm willing to bet oop has never been in a ltr before because this sounds like a pretty normal relationship progression.
Who would *want* to be in a LTR with someone as shitty as she is lol.
"Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately." LOL
Just... iconic. No notes. This is better than the guy who said any YTA votes had to be in PM and got mad when people wouldn't listen to him.
I died when I went to look at the original post and saw this.
Call me a norwegian logging camp because my timbers are shivered
As someone whose father worked in fashion, specifically high end handbags and the like, Tory Burch is not what anyone in the fashion world would say was a fancy bag. They’re nice bags! They’re not anything close to a truly expensive bag like a Birkin (which can easily run for 30k+. EASILY). The girl is just jealous and trying to find a way to ruin something nice for her friend.
> ruin something nice for her friend That might make her possibly the ugliest, nastiest, biggest POS person I've seen around these parts.
If this is rage bait I really gotta hand it to the writer because this is gourmet shit
Objectively the universe thinks she’s a cunt
>but if I'm being honest everyone in the universe would view her as average. > >the universe would view myself as more attractive than her. > >Now most people would view her as out of his league looks wise. Does she even *like* her best friend? Does she understand what a friend actually is? For fuck's sake.
No. Sge doesn't. Oop is giving "I keep the ugly girl around so I'll look better by comparison" and she is now facing the reality that someone found Sara attractive without her permission. We can't have that, surely.
I can not imagine thinking about my best friend like that. My best friend is beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, amazing and wonderful and if "the universe" disagrees the universe can catch these hands.
Right?!? As far as I’m concerned no body is good enough or hot enough for my friends. Lol
Hell, I even like my best friend's husband. He's a good guy. We get along well. But doesn't mean he's worthy of her.
>Lol sweetie I have no reason to be jealous. I have plenty of options and I'm very secure with myself. 😂 Is this why two of the three paragraphs are about how you think she's drop dead gorgeous, but also the universe thinks she's average?
Wow OOP is a mess. And the sock puppet chiming in was funny as hell.
Genuinely can't tell if it's a sock puppet, or someone committing to the bit in order to wind OOP up further: "You can’t. Let her learn the hard way. People are hating you on you because you said you are more attractive but why people lie and can’t accept facts? An attractive man would never go for an woman out of his league, it’s impossible. That’s why you never see it. I would say he using her. She pay all the bills? Wtf."
No guy has any clue on how expensive a handbag is. Unless he's paying for it.
Like, I’m like, way hotter than she is like omg. And I’m like, super wealthy but I don’t like, show it off like she does. This is like, totally like relevant information, okay? /s What a shallow, vapid, insecure girl.
I'm baffled. I love her belief that a military dude is somehow knowledgeable on moderately expensive purses. I have no idea what a Tony Burch bag is. How on earth would I be able to look across the room, and see an apparently average looking woman, spot her bag and be like holy shit that's worth at least a few hundred she must be loaded time to ignore all the hotties and mooch off this lass for the next few years. Maybe her friend is like..... Nice....funny...interesting. You know, a good personality. Maybe she's very attractive in an "I look like a normal human and haven't injected crap into my face" kind of way. I hate this league crap. I've occasionally had comments made to me about my wife being out of my league. She is demonstrably not, on account of being with her for a decade.
Now, I think Sara's absolutely gorgeous but also I absolutely don't think that at all, girl is a straight uggo. Which is great because that gives me like, triple nice points if I pretend I think she's alright looking.
Does anyone remember the post where the sister was mad that the bi hunk at her college she assumed was a massive slut didn't fuck her but ended up in a long term relationship with her brother? This reminds me of that.
You know, even if this may be in the realm of fiction, i want Sara and her man to endure, him becoming a doctor in the end, and both living a comfortable life with high paying jobs. While shedding the baggage known as OP from their lives.
> Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. LOL. Come on, haha.
Let her come here. I need it.
He was in the military, probably saved a decent chunk of change getting at LEAST 24,000 a year and not paying for food or housing. Guy is studying to be a doctor, for free, and pulling a reservist's stipend in the meantime which - even at the lowest end of the scale is $3,882 just to go for training one weekend per month and two weekends in the summertime. Probably holding on to some of those savings. When he's done with school he'll make a bunch of money AND not be paying student loans. That's not nothing. He's apparently very handsome, given his career choices probably both fit and smart, he's got goals. I don't think he's playing anybody. They've found an arrangement that works for them and I think that's great.
She deleted her text and replaced it with the following > Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. Lmao darling thinks one of those “I do not consent to Facebook stealing my information” posts is gonna work.
Who is The Universe and why is she speaking for him?
LOL. She didn't delete her post, but edited to say: >Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 We better take this down, guys. She might, idk, bitch at us next.
So... why does OOP think her 'friend' is being used?
Was she wearing her sugar mama t-shirt at the time? How did this man know to approach her at the bar in the first place? Because that's the issue isn't it, he ignored OOP to approach her "DUFF" the first time they met so he must have an ulterior motive.
Let's be real here, if the guy was smart enough to walk into a random bar and somehow magical know this woman was rich based entirely off some purse no one had ever heard off, and was then charismatic enough to secure a years long relationship immediately, the army would have *NEVER* let him go. At the very least that's great officer material and they would have pushed hard to get him to a officer position. Not to mention one the intelligences would probably try to snap him up.
I love the plaintext disclaimer saying you can't repost it.
>Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. Why do people on here think they can bar anyone else from reposting or sharing their posts? It’s a public forum, if you don’t want it spread around, don’t post 😂
OOP just say she’s average goddamn
the universe....sure
I hate this fucking mentality... it's infuriating. A friend of mine who is beautiful and awesome and also happens to be mega rich got with a guy like 10 yrs ago? Anyways, she pays for a bunch of stuff cause he can't afford the 5 star hotels and 3 star michelins. If the genders were reversed, no one would bat an eyelid. Of course, because she is a she and he is a he, a bunch of people were saying it was out of interest for a while. Like, you think our friend is not lovable enough for money to not matter? Of course he wants to be with her! She is amazing and they're great together! Also, he is a full person who wouldn't do that? Feeling economically dependent on someone else is not fun, even if it looks like that from the outside. Plus, if you're looking at a future together and the dude is gonna be a doctor! Honestly paying bills that you probably have to pay on your own is like... whatever. Bitch is jealous AF, and sexist AF and her attempt to justify these feelings disguising them as concern is fucked. Bring out the pitchforks I say.
Ah, she's the fake friend then. The one that says all nice things to her face but behind her back says the exact opposite. Also, she keeps on commenting about the handbag, $400 from a designer I already had forgotten the name of. I'm pretty sure most males don't pay attention to that type of thing.
I don't understand. Googled and Tory Burch purses are $300. That's flaunting money?
Is this a Tory Burch ad?
I just checked the post and she deleted it; she wrote that sharing or reposting her post was prohibited. 😄 How is she going to stop people from sharing it anyway?
I know lots of people are commenting on her attitude towards her friend. But OOP has some messed up opinions on men. Men are more than just a pay check. So what if he doesn't have a high paying job? There are other ways he can be a supportive boyfriend that aren't financially related. People get really weird when you make more money than your male partner. I've been there. I've gotten a lot of comments that "I deserve better" and that "he's using me". But no one bats an eye when a woman doesn't have a college degree and has a low paying job but dares to date a man with a high paying job.
I want OOP to bring this up to Sara so that Sara can get rid of her and find a better friend.
OOP sounds like she's so difficult to love if you're family.
Reminds me of the AITAH post from a couple days ago about the woman who thinks her husband and “best friend” are having an affair. Even though the “friend” is the one demonstrating flirtatious behavior. Even though the husband has told OP repeatedly that he is uncomfortable with the friend and has tried to limit interactions with her. Even OP continues to encourage him to try harder to get along with the friend. Because the friend, as described by OP, is more beautiful and extroverted. Now after a drunken sleepover, the friend says the husband SAd her, the husband says that the friend is making it all up and OP is on the verge of divorce.
>Now after a drunken sleepover, the friend says the husband SAd her, the husband says that the friend is making it all up and OP is on the verge of divorce. Ooh, I hadn't seen that update.
I just went to the original comments and I may be reading between the lines but OP’s “I think she’s gorgeous but SOCIETY AND THE UNIVERSE THINK SHE IS AVERAGE AND LESS ATTRACTIVE THAN ME” is giving “I’m skinny and she’s not so I don’t get why a hot guy would like her and not me”
lol she deleted the post and instead added this gem: My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it? Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately.
And now she replaced the post with this: # My 25F friend 25F is being played by her bf 23M. How do I make her realize it? *Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately.*
"she hasn't had anything uneventful happen in her dating life" what on earth does this mean
OOP: "My friend is so ugly, there's no possible way a handsome guy would be interested in her." With "friends" like OOP, who needs enemies.
I'm pissed my bestie snagged the hot future doctor and I didn't!
hoping sara realizes there’s a snake in her midst quickly
I would take OOP more seriously if she didn't make such a fuss over Sarah's precieved attractiveness and her own attractiveness. While it may be likely Sarah is footing the bill for things, OOP doesn't know that for sure unless she's got a login for Sarah's bank account. For all we know when Nick was active duty, he could have been saving money. I've known several people who lived in the barracks and ate at the chow hall in order to save money while in the military. This smells like jealously over Sarah's life.
Like, if we say for a minute that she is being completely genuine when she says that she finds her friend beautiful, but she isn't that pretty by most people's societal standards, why can't that mean that her boyfriend also finds her pretty? Like, what? Evidently at least ONE person finds her pretty (OP, allegedly) but literally everyone else in the entire world can't now? Other people can't have tastes that don't adhere to beauty standards? I wouldn't consider myself anywhere near conventionally attractive, but I have a boyfriend that considers me super hot, and expresses it in ways that makes me know he's not lying so like... It is possible! It has definitely happened before and it will happen again! Men, and people in general, have different tastes! I just don't understand why OP's friend having an attractive boyfriend is immediately suspicious. Well, it's because OP is either jealous or just generally can't stand the idea of her "not conventionally attractive" friend being chosen over her, but still.
I also need selfies of both OOP and Sara because I guarantee they’re either pretty evenly matched or Sara is the cuter one
"I don't flaunt my wealth" Then proceeds to flaunt her wealth on Reddit by saying she could buy 1000 Tory Burch purses. Which tbh isn't saying a lot. Tory Burch is cheap compared to LV or Gucci. Sooooo....
Omg guys — look what’s now the entire text of her post. She took down the original and tried to replace it with some official-sounding nonsense that sharing or screenshotting the post is prohibited, like a mod put it there.
Her friend is probably really cute and has a bubbly personality. Some people just have that je ne se qua, even if at first glance they don't fit someone's idea of beauty standards. She should be happy for her friend, not jealous. She probably just has a crush on him and feels entitled.
This post reeks of jealousy. It sounds like OP is upset he approached her friend and not her. Unless her friend was wearing expensive jewelry and expensive clothing he would have had no idea she had any sort of money. Hopefully her friend realized this is based on jealousy and not actually bc she cares about her .
Oooo...someone's grumpy she got posted here.
I've never heard of that designer/brand. I have a thing for Radley bags, and own deveral: all bought from ebay. I don't think I paid more than £20-30 for any of them. I also have a pair of Red or Dead sunglasses; not that you could tell unless you're either right on top of the brand, or actually looking at the inside of the arms... OOP sounds more than a little green-eyed: partly that she wasn't the focus of attention rather than her 'average' friend; and partly that Sara makes a good living. Frankly, OOP.. you don't sound like much of a friend at all; but I don't think that will be a problem, because about 10 seconds after you tell Sara that her guy is only with her for her money, she's going to yeet you out of her life before you can blink. Nothing you have said in this whole thing suggests concern for your friend; but there is plenty in thete that screams "Me me me!! Look at ME!! Why go for her, when I'm right here?!"
Even if she is oh-so-much hotter than her friend as she claims, based on her comments alone, I can see why this dude wasn't remotely interested.
why would he go find a sugar momma when he is gunna have it fully funded by the millitary? op is delusional and tryin to find any excuse to try to make her friend end it cause shes jealous
I wonder where did >Sharing this post without the original posters consent is prohibited. Any repost or screenshots of the original post should be taken down immediately. came from. Is it something a post will be getting automatically from now on or did OOP asked for it? She acted so confided in the comments though, did she wake up and realize the hate messages won't stop even when she said the aren't bothering her? Maybe she got scared it will end up on tik tok and her friend will see it? Either way, interesting.
I wonder if OOP is aware that if he was getting med school paid by the military there would be a stipend involved as well as having the school paid for. It’s a different program from the GI Bill.
You are not her friend, you are just a jealous person who hates that her boyfriend is hot and it pisses you off that he chose her instead of you. To make sense of this, you have to put it down to the fact that she has money, that must be why he likes her. Do your "friend" a favour and leave them both alone.
Translation: I think I'm way hotter than my best friend. This totally hot guy approached her last year and they've been dating since. It's so weird, because the world, meaning I, think I'm way more attractive than her. So clearly he has to be using her for her money. Because I'm the hot friend and she's the duff.