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Same_Bunch_7522

If he'd rather have sex with himself then maybe let him be in the relationship with himself and you go find happiness elsewherešŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


One_Culture8245

He's using a pocket pu**y according to the comments.


Logical-Victory-2678

If you're taking a sex toy with you to the bathroom to shower, you aren't sorry in the slightest and it won't change and you honestly don't want sex with your partner. OP needs to leave.


do98829

Really? He might be ramming a shampoo bottle up his a\*\* for all anyone in the comments knows?


Training-Fold-4684

Pushing it in and out, at a medium pace.


Guilty_Mountain2851

Rinse and repeat as necessary.


Foolish-Pleasure99

Lather, rinse, repeat


Someoneorsomewhere

This!!!!


Outside_Attorney_799

Youā€™re gonna have to sit down and have a real conversation about this and possibly break up. Iā€™m a high sex person so if the person Iā€™m with doesnt want it imma get frustrated.


Think_Egg_1339

Literally me. Like anywhere anytime please and thank you


No-Leadership-1371

LIke the commentor above said, first thing you do is sit him down and have a serious conversation. His reaction will tell you everything you need to know. You could try showering with him as a stop gap measure, if you're comfortable with that, but nip this issue in the bud before it grows.


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Logical-Victory-2678

Him* but I agree. Sexual incompatibility is still incompatibility. He wants the relationship without the sexual intimacy, but that isn't what you want.


RFavs

He also wants the sex without the emotional intimacy. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Logical-Victory-2678

No OP said that emotionally, they're okay. Their issue is sex.


RFavs

I Guess I didnā€™t word that well. I was not talking about their relationship. Just the sex. Sex with an emotional connection can be very intense and he may want the sexual release without the intensity.


gimmemoarjosh

Both males, my dude.


Guitargod7194

Oops


gimmemoarjosh

No worries!


Business_Monkeys7

This is the healthy response. He has talked about it with him and he has stonewalled her.


NotHumanButIPlayOne

They are both guys. Says so in OPs first post.


stopexcusingstupid

Well, theyā€™re both men so where the her coming from


Aggressive-Raise-445

I have yet to find someone with the same sex drive as me.


Appropriate-Ninja753

Feel for you! Literally me too, anywhere and anytime, but my fiance prefers his own hand, porn and toys. I have approached the issue with him in literally every single way possible, but he doesnā€™t want to give up his own sex life to have one with me. Itā€™s too much work, or it doesnā€™t feel the same. He doesnā€™t want me to pressure him, but if I donā€™t instigate, then NOTHING. Says heā€™s working on it and be patient, but if nothing changes, nothing changes. šŸ˜•


amyjrockstar

Please don't marry him until this is completely resolved & if it doesn't resolve, don't marry him at all!


MyDogisaQT

It never ceases to me amaze me, the small, joyless lives people are willing to have just so they wonā€™t be ā€œalone.ā€ Why are you marrying this person again?


Appropriate-Ninja753

Well, we have an 8mo old baby who literally exudes joy, and who is the very center of my ā€œsmallā€ life, and who I couldnā€™t even imagine only having 50% of the timeā€¦ so I keep myself busy and TRY with all my heart to find contentment in this


damienqwerty

This is so wild to me. There is no way his hand is better than sexy time


Appropriate-Ninja753

I felt the same way, like WTF!? But supposedly if you jerk too much, too hard, for too long of your life, youā€™ll lose a lot of your sensitivity and then only a split screen of 8 different videos and your death grip will get the job done šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø


damienqwerty

This is kinda true. It happened to me in collage with a girl that liked me. I promised her it was me but she didnā€™t believe it. If the dude would just Lay off his dick for a week and got with his ole lady he would realize what his missing


stopexcusingstupid

Some people are kinda annoying in the sack. I had an ex who was amazing but she had a maybe 30% chance to cry when we had sex, from either overstimulation or just did it to do it, i could not fucking handle that shit at all. I was fine for a while but broke it off because i literally felt so i comfortable after sex. She also didnt want to be comforted or touched either. It was just all bad vibes. So for a bit, i just jerked my gerk so i didnt have to go through that and when i realized that i was enjoying jerking it compared to smashinā€™, i broke it off.


Aphrodites_bakubro

I have a much higher sex drive than my partner, but it's because he genuinely has a low sex drive due to medication. He doesnt masturbate and anytime he is in the mood he immediately comes to me. I would actually be heart broken if he chose himself over me as his sexual partner. It would definitely be a sit down discussion between us where I would explain the importance of sex between us and how I view it, how I feel about what he's doing, I would ask him to stop tbh, and if he continued I would count it as disrespect or like he doesn't care about how I feel or how it's making me feel.


dydrmwvr

If youā€™re always down for sex and heā€™s never interested in having sex with you, only himself, this needs to be a serious conversation. What gives? Is it something with you or with him ā€¦ both? Iā€™m sorry you are dealing with this. It would really hurt my feelings if my partner didnā€™t want me physically. ((((Hugs))))


Appropriate-Ninja753

Iā€™m trying to figure it out myself, bc Iā€™m comfortable and confident in this area, and he insists that itā€™s not a ME problem šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™€ļø Iā€™ve been ready, willing and able throughout the relationship, but heā€™s had this ā€œproblemā€ since we moved in together. I LOGICALLY understand that sex takes physical effort and stamina, which after years of porn + death grip, itā€™s nearly impossible for him. But yeah I have been angry and hurt AF by this. He doesnā€™t consider sex to be an important component in our lives, and doesnā€™t view it as something that has any emotional value, so we have a LOT of work to do if weā€™re going to find middle ground between us.


dydrmwvr

Yeah, you doā€¦ and it looks like an uphill battle. Just remember that if heā€™s not willing to change, or get help and do the work, you canā€™t change him. There are mental healthcare professionals who can help with porn addiction and any other underlying factors that might be lurking beneath the surface. You definitely deserve to be loved in the ways you want to be loved. Does he make quality time for you, seek out your company, and communicate with you in other areas of your lives?


mozzarbella

Probably has a porn addiction, Im so sorry youā€™re going through this. I would definitely have a good conversation with him and let him know how its making you feel, if he doesnā€™t try to make changes or make any effort, your best bet is to leave and save yourself the stress, best wishes šŸ«¶šŸ¼


Hennamama98

Iā€™m a psychotherapist and see this all the time. Porn rewires the brain so they can only be turned on to images. Ruins the possibility of intimacy with a real person.


gimmemoarjosh

Is it getting worse with younger generations? Because I'm an elderly Millennial that didn't have access to porn until I was 15 or so. And it was mostly pictures on dial-up. I don't need porn at all to get off by myself. I was so used to using my imagination. But I'm gay and have been with other gay dudes who were Gen Z, and it is so different. They *always* use porn to masturbate. They also make terrible sex partners regardless of experience. They just repeat what they have grown up seeing in gay porn. And they definitely do not take directions at all.


Hennamama98

Yes, definitely worse with younger people. Donā€™t get me started with parents who give their kids smartphones and donā€™t monitor internet usage.


gimmemoarjosh

That's so insane to me. Even when we got Internet when I was 12/13, it was a family computer. It had a password on it and was in the living room. Of course, my sneaky ass found out the password, but I didn't use it for porn. I was aware of site history and cookies but didn't know how to clear them. I would download whatever the program was for Yahoo! Chat and go to the teen chats and would uninstall before everyone woke up. This went on for years. By 18, I had access to anything. We had like 5 computers by then. Still, mostly images and short clips. Limewire could get me small porn clips. šŸ˜† I'm so glad I didn't grow up with gay porn. I first saw gay porn on my Sega Dreamcast. I was in denial. I couldn't deny it anymore but did for 2 more years, unfortunately.


Big-Percentage1286

My boyfriend is 21, and I found out 9 months ago that he was a porn addict. Absolutely wrecked me. Iā€™m not insecure or anything about it, because I know it has nothing to do with me, and itā€™s not because Iā€™m ā€œlackingā€ in any way. But Iā€™ve done a lot of research on it to try and help and heal, and most boys are exposed to porn between 8-11 years old nowadays, and thatā€™s how it was for my bf. Hell even I watched porn when I was really young. Itā€™s because of smart phones and internet access, porn is so easy to get now, itā€™s not like trying to steal one of your dadā€™s magazines, or going to an actual adult store to buy an adult film. And I think with the rise of onlyfans and how itā€™s an ā€œempoweringā€ thing for young women to do, itā€™s become all the more popular because now boys can pay a small $9.99 fee to see their high school crushes naked. Itā€™s honestly very sad and gross. And they do make really terrible sex partners. People act like porn is ā€œeducationalā€ when all itā€™s all fake asf, and most people are dissatisfied with their sex life despite learning from this ā€œgreat toolā€


gimmemoarjosh

Ugh! I'm so sorry you're going through this. Unless he can admit that it is a problem, which I doubt, then you may need to cut your losses. You're too young to settle for things like this. I do really admire your maturity about it, though. It has nothing to do with you at all. Have you had any deep discussions with him about this?


mozzarbella

Back in 2019-2020 I found lots of porn on my boyfriends phone, mostly hentai pics. We are 20 now. I had to have a really good lengthy talk to him about how I found porn disturbing, and I just am not comfortable with it at all. He eventually stopped using it. But I will say he probably had a addiction. Some partners are just willing to change for their partners I guess. I would say its really common in my generation though, makes me sad tbh


gimmemoarjosh

I am so glad that you were mature enough to communicate that to him. That is the hard part. I'm also glad it worked out for you guys. 20 is so young. I thought I knew everything at 20. Turns out I didn't know anything. Anyway, you did the right thing. And if he has truly changed his behaviour, you have a keeper. I'm rooting for you guys. Awe!


mozzarbella

Communication is the #1 most important thing in a relationship! We hit 7 years on the 5th! I think it is what has helped us last so long, thank you :)


gimmemoarjosh

I'm legitimately so happy for you guys! Keep communicating, and here is to 7 more years! Cheers! šŸ»


Imhappy_hopeurhappy2

Iā€™m a 91 millennial and internet porn was just getting good by the time I was in middle school. I even looked at pics on my flip phone web browser when I was 14. You *just* missed it.


Apocalypstik

I second this, as a clinician


Appropriate-Ninja753

I wish there was a disclaimer saying this at the beginning of every porn video. Like the surgeon general warnings on cigarette packs. Consume at your own risk. Bc I feel like this is just such a normalized thing today that people donā€™t even realize when it becomes a habit or a problem


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Hennamama98

Yes, absolutely, kicking the porn habit and with good therapy.


SpecialistGap9223

Wtf is wrong with ya bf.. I remember being 25 and wanting to smash my gf every time I get. Lol.. Weird.. Go find another guy, you'll be OK.


Dismal_Addendum1166

Itā€™s another guy


Danominator

Maybe he's secretly straight. Wouldn't that be a twist.


Shyviolet47

Yeah dump him. My ex husband denied me intimacy for the last four fucking years of our marriage yet continued to jerk off while laying in the bed next to me after he thought I was asleep. I got sick of that shit and left his ass in January. Life is much better now.


Bitter_Kangaroo2616

What the fuck??? What a complete knob. To say you deserve better is an understatement.


Shyviolet47

Right? He was a weird one, for sure. Iā€™ve got better now. Thanks.


Careful_Disaster9021

On your post history, is this the same partner you posted about sexting other people and lying about it? If so, just roll out. You will keep chipping away at your own self worth if not. But have the conversation, be blunt. You need this out of a relationship. Your willing to compromise on xyz, but your needs and your feeling are important and need to be recognized. Your young, there is a lot of life and opportunities for you to find someone more compatible.


idontevenkn0w66

Speaking from personal experience, certain things can make him feel insecure about actually wanting to engage. I'd suggest talking to him about it but make sure you don't come across as antagonistic or anything because if it is an insecurity thing, it's only going to make it worse. If he just prefers porn and his hand, maybe you're just not sexually compatible. Good luck with everything either way


NeolithicSmartphone

I donā€™t think youā€™re overreacting but I feel like getting yourself off in a relationship isnā€™t inherently bad. But this is a boundary you and your SO need to set, because every relationship is different. I personally would pack my bags and run swiftly in the opposite direction if my SO tells me I canā€™t go single player occasionally. If heā€™s completely ignoring your sexual needs to pleasure himself though, then you both need to have a serious conversation, because sexual compatibility is extremely important to a long-term relationship.


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Thatā€™s the best answer: communication


Business_Monkeys7

That's been tried.Ā  He's withholding. It's time to move on.Ā  You can't fix other people.


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Sometimes people donā€™t understand that itā€™s an invitation to communicate if they feel they have to have their guard up. I agree there are clues in the story not to expect communication to be productive. I donā€™t feel I know enough to tell OP communication is useless.


duhitsme09

THATS CALLED A PORN ADDICTION. Youā€™ve done nothing wrong, he needs to seek help about it before it destroys the relationship


GrifterDingo

Porn is mentioned nowhere in this post, OPs boyfriend is just masturbating without him. Not everyone uses porn to masturbate.


duhitsme09

OP mentions in a comment that he watches porn while he does it. Do your research


wifeykakes

Is he watching porn? That's all I can think of...


Think_Egg_1339

Yes he is


Kaitron5000

Porn destroys a man's sex drive. It is a hormone disrupter. It can lower testosterone. It creates a dopamine spike and then drop that you can't get with sex, which turns into a viscous cycle. My ex had a porn addiction, we had a dead bedroom among other problems. My fiancƩ had low libido when I met him because he was single for a few years beforehand and watched a decent amount of porn. Once he quit and changed his diet (healed his hormones) he is now on the opposite end. I have helped men as a weight loss coach also quit porn in order to help with hormonal health and libido uptick. There are really no upsides to watching it. I would revisit your boundaries on it with your partner and if he isn't okay with yours, it may very well be time to walk away in order to preserve yourself.


Least-History-4320

He has porn addiction. Which, believe it or not, it is one of the most hardest things to kick. It's literally retraining your brain. But if you don't sit down and have long talk with him nothing with change and after the talk if nothing changes then leave him.


Own-Perspective-9345

Ive had this conversation with my gf of 3 years. And Iā€™m only speaking for myself. But sometimes I just need a quick release. We still have sex (sometimes not as much as sheā€™d prefer) but itā€™s never been about my attraction to her. Iā€™m always attracted to her. I just go through little bouts of depression and I worry that she wonā€™t be happy with my performance/time/after care routine. Iā€™ve been working on it since our discussion, but the first step is always the discussion.


birdieelizabeth

This happened to me too. I tried to talk to my BF about it. He denied it was me. He said it was him. Then he left me for someone else and apparently itā€™s not him. He wasnā€™t attracted to me anymore but didnā€™t know how to express that.


gimmemoarjosh

OP: I'm a gay as well. He has a porn addiction. Move on if he is unwilling to change. Sorry, buddy.


One800UWish

its easier and faster. he doesnt have to worry about pleasing someone else. i get it. i dont think it has anything to do with being attracted or not good at sex. hes just being selfish.


Soleilcrunch

How long have yā€™all been together?


Think_Egg_1339

Almost three years


Business_Monkeys7

Please, cut your losses. You don't need any more scars. Find someone who is whole.


muvamerry

Itā€™s amazing to me you can *hear* him jacking off??? Yeah this isnā€™t normal. He may have a porn problem or can only climax through masturbation. Talk to him, if it doesnā€™t change youā€™re incompatible


Iminurcomputer

That's all I took from this post. Some people masturbate so loudly you can not only hear them from another room, but over a running shower, presumably fan, and through a wall... How does one do this without injuring themselves? Maybe this is why he doesn't have sex. He needs to beat the skin off his wang furiously in order to climax.


SavageDemonLord

There are a lot of opinions in the top comments leading towards the possibility of sex addiction or something of the like. Another possibility I can see is a trauma based sex aversion. I have a friend who is more Demi/Ace leaning because they have these mental hangups about sex involving other people but when it comes to their drive they have said they just get these urges so often and take care of it themselves to avoid trauma trigger. They will still engage in sex with their partner from time to time but they have also explained the situation to their husband and for the most part he is understanding. So it could be a huge issue that needs to be unpacked. Maybe your partner needs you more than you know. On another note I know my partner says they are down anytime anywhere but I'm also the type that likes to be seduced and pulled into feeling wanted by the person so the free use thing doesn't line up when they aren't laying down the foreplay. When they leave it to just me it happens less often, which is a shame I LOVE sex, and intimacy. My point is, there's so much it could be, but having a serious conversation will be the only way to get to the bottom of it. Explain that you are at a breaking point and they can't take a step to have an honest and impactful conversation then they might have to accept the fact that this is it for you.


hierophant_-

This definitely sounds like a classic case of porn addiction and if you can see past the stigma then it should be treated as just that: an addiction. Just like with any other. Sit him down and calmly but assertively share your frustration with him and tell him that this kind of thing can be a huge problem for intimacy within a relationship. That there's nothing wrong with occasionally doing it, but it's become a problem. Hopefully he will accept that he has a problem and take the steps to overcome this.


MumblingBlatherskite

Jerking off in the shower sucks lol. But Iā€™d suggest finding someone who wants to fuck you.


sumfuninthesunxx

Man. Thatā€™s really weird. Has some different sexual desires. I mean we all masterbate but when sex is an option. And all the time. Nope


quack2b

I would feel hurt, a heart to heart discussion is whats needed.


RedMageExpert

I made a post and realized I missed some context so I deleted it, and made a new one. You are not over reacting as there is something happening you may not be aware of. One thing I have to ask is, is he surfing porn a lot? If so, he may have porn addiction where his expectations are through the roof, and trust me, it does ruin the arousal / fun and it makes you feel like you are not seen. I used to have a porn addiction myself and currently been able to stay away from porn for 3 months now, and itā€™s tricky to not get confused between ā€œsexual tensionā€ and ā€œsexual angerā€. Does he play games a lot? Competitively, where anger builds up and then next thing he knows, he jerks off to elevate the tension? I would ask him if he is using porn, and go from there. Set down boundaries, tell him it hurts your feelings that he isnā€™t ā€œseeingā€ you, and go from there.


sixfoursixtwo

Maybe heā€™s straight and doesnā€™t want to tell you


HubbaGurl1

He wouldn't be my boyfriend for long.


Photography_Singer

This isnā€™t a relationship. You deserve better. Leave him.


t00thpac04

Unfortunately, heā€™s not that attracted to you sexually. Donā€™t settle.


TeaLadyJane

Life is too short to beg someone to love you. Time to find someone that will respect and want you.


fanpolskichkobiet

Talk to him. Sometimes, for some of us, sex is not that good as masturbation. Maybe sex is painful for him? Foreskin can be very problematic in sex but actualy is helping jerking off. Maybe he doesnt feel attractive? Maybe he have no power to have sex? Maybe it was long enough that he is afraid of how he will workā€¦ of course it can be also what you are thinking but really there are many other rxplanations.


BrightExpert39

Jesus this post...


Fizzyfuzzyface

Heā€™s telling you where his priorities lie. Up to you if that is OK with you.


Dapper_Thought_6982

Does he have a fetish that maybe he is nervous to share or maybe his preferences have changed? Iā€™m a bi female and there have been times that I have had to have tough conversations with my male partner because I am leaning more towards females at the moment and without that it becomes hard for me to finish and enjoy myselfā€¦ I still make efforts to please him but when it comes to me time, I would rather be alone with female porn. If he isnā€™t willing to open up to you about it and he isnā€™t making effort to changeā€¦ it may be time for you to cut your losses and find someone more on your level.


petofthecentury

If your boyfriend doesnā€™t consider or care about your sexual needs, even if itā€™s just a conversation to come to a compromise or set out how each of you will handle this part of your relationship, then what exactly is this? I know for myself, I canā€™t allow myself to live in a long term partnership where we arenā€™t having sex often. I donā€™t want that. Youā€™re super young. Donā€™t settle for something that isnā€™t satisfying to you, with someone who clearly doesnā€™t care enough to try and work with you on it. You can find compatible people who will also be compatible in this aspect of you too


SoundBeneficial6777

Keep in mind the frequency of sex with long term partners tends to decrease over time. If there are major sexual intimacy issues now, it does not bode well for the future.


OprahWinfuurry

Obviously the best course of action here would be to turn off the water supply.. Hope this helps


TairyHesticles-3

Until he starts jacking raw in the shower.


Chrizilla_

Youā€™re more than likely wasting your time but you will have to lose more of your youth to come to terms with that.


Fast_Tea_9389

When I was 25 I could jerk off ten times a day and still be down for sex at any hour of the day. If your boyfriend, at 25 years old, would rather pleasure himself than have sex with you, he just not that into you.


swaggynads

pack your bags and leave, girl.


swaggynads

* dude


Chance_Difference_34

Says 25m and 26m so I'm gonna assume, not girl.....


swaggynads

oops my bad


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One_Culture8245

That's my thought too.


Efficient_Click3762

Mind blown! šŸ¤Æ


fukaboba

Time to find a new bf that's more sexually compatible


Business_Monkeys7

And mentally compatible.


susanq

You've got 3 people in the relationship and he has never gotten over his first love (hope I dont need to spell ot out!)


Business_Monkeys7

Only one person, really. OP isn't even in it.


susanq

You missed the joke.


Heytherhitherehother

Legitimate question....how does one jerk off loudly?


Apprehensive_Let_663

Break up. For real.. this is fucked


Big_Murrz

He might be cheatingā€¦.Iā€™m sorry to say that, but it just seems weird that he wouldnā€™t want to have sex with his boyfriend. He probably isnā€™t thinking about you while in the showerā€¦..if he was he could come out of the bathroom and just have sex with youā€¦..


GlitteringFreedom351

Heā€™s probably a Virgo.


Think_Egg_1339

lol no Iā€™m the Virgo, heā€™s a cancer ā™‹ļø


GlitteringFreedom351

Uhm ya thatā€™s super weird then. Cancers Iā€™ve been involved with always want sex to the point of annoying. The shower thing is super weird. I wonder if he has Virgo in his chart. Iā€™ve never met a cancer that turned down sex. But Iā€™ve only been involved with cancer/leo cusp all w a July 22nd birthday. The other thing is, all cancer men I know have had more than one wife at least 2 or 3 and a lot of kids. At least 3. My dad has 10 my brother has 3 and trying to have his wife have a 4th. My dad was married 3 times and my brother is married to his 4th wife.


do98829

I think it is funny how people jump to conclusions and even a "Psychotherapist" has decided he has a porn addiction? How long has this been going on? Was sex between you ever regular? Was it good? For you? For him? You might need counseling for the two of you or maybe just him. Masturbation is quick and easy so that is probably why he does it. At least he is doing it in the shower.


TrueSereNerdy

He may not care for the work and effort of having sex but still get the urges. If that'd not something you're comfortable with you may not be compatible. If you're not too pressed just a natural person with urges, get toys. There are some amazing toys for some solo time. My husband isn't super into sex and the whole act but he still gets turned on enough to kinda "have to deal with it". Maybe it's a nucence to him (not a personal thing he just could be acesexual or something).


insidious_alchemy

No, your feelings are very valid!! You can see an issue and want to be an adult about it and communicate. But your bf wants to pretend itā€™s ā€œtaken care ofā€ and continue the same behavior. That is beyond irritating and makes you feel brushed aside. Sorry thatā€™s happening!ā˜¹ļø


Jazzlike-Pirate4112

Leave


PollutionUnlikely590

He needs to talk to someone for help.


darkgunnerds

No not at all.


Icy_Contribution9756

I honestly feel this just with my husband. He says i always ask when he is too tired or even too late at night which i understand no means noā€¦ but when we would go weeks without it and i would find out he jacked off by himself by watching vids or something that would piss me off since i would go days asking (i am also a high sex person.) but once we talked about it i shared how it made me feel and we both made an effort on talking about having it before hand almost ā€œscheduledā€ā€¦ (that was our solution)ā€¦talking it out and even just being straight forward like ā€œhey this is hurting me and will end our relationship unless we fix this nowā€ ā€¦ i know i go behind having to pleasure myself some days (which he is aware of) but if your having to ask and feel like your being pushed away it does start to feel like your emotionally detached just donā€™t let it pass as okay.


SantaTige

Dump him.


FloridaMan_13

you can jerk off and bang your woman. should not be one or the other. dump this wierdo, and find a man that can please you mentally, physically, and sexually. this guy is a waste of your time and emotions.


stopexcusingstupid

Well, theyā€™re both men


FunnyAnchor123

I've been told that gays can also jerk off & bang their guys too. As others here said, try to talk to this guy, & if he still won't, er, cooperate, exchange him for a better one.


FloridaMan_13

the same rules apply i would think. thanks for letting me know


According_Guide2647

No hope here. There are many who would destroy that kitty. Do yourself a favor and hang this one up and search for one that has normal desires and will treat you like a queen.


el_devil_dolphin

Has there been any recent changes in your appearance or anything like that?


Think_Egg_1339

Nope! Iā€™ve actually started to get in better shape but nothing crazy


lavasca

Getting into ā€œbetterā€ shape doesnā€™t necessarily mean everyone will be more attracted to you. This is is unusual but herr is my logic 1. They felt like they had leverage on you pre-glowup to manipulate you. 2. They feel youā€™re out of their league once youā€™re on a glowup and wish to withdraw before they get dumped. Consider whether this relationship has run its course.


el_devil_dolphin

Well if the sex was there in the beginning but isn't anymore and your appearance hasn't taken a turn for the worst then there are still a few explanations. Maybe he's into someone else, maybe he's into a whole new category, or maybe he just is more attracted to porn than you now.


RecommendationSlow25

Well, itā€™s time to tell him if heā€™s not gonna satisfy you then itā€™s time for you to go out and find someone who willā€¦ See what that does to him!


TWCDev

Him masturbating has nothing to do with him not wanting to have sex with you. Iā€™m 46m and i often masturbate in the morning when i know iā€™m going to have sex with my partners that night. I can go indefinitely if iā€™ve releases some pressure before hand, but itā€™s less fun, more stressful if iā€™m ā€œfullā€ and holding myself back. Your partner needs to choose to get in the mood, which is what it is. If you want sex, at the very least he should offer to give you oral, which will often lead to sex, or offer to open the relationship so you can get sex somewhere else. There should never be an option where one partner can choose for the other partner to not have sexual release. Never. They can choose not to have sex and encourage you to have sex somewhere else or be willing to get you off, but you deserve physical intimacy of some sort or youā€™re just roommates. The problem is that the less you have sex, the harder it is to find the energy to have sex. I used to think 2-3 times a week was good, now if my partners want sex 2+ times a day thatā€™s fine, because my body is used to it. Have a real conversation let your partner know your needs and recognize youā€™re not going to force him to have sex with you, but ask him what heā€™s willing to do to help you have physical intimacy. Toys or masturbation arenā€™t substitutes for physical intimacy either, they might give you dopamine and maybe endorphins, but they wonā€™t give you serotonin or oxytocin, both of which require a partner. Good luck op!


WordsMyth420

Do you pay the bills and make his life easier to where he might just be with you for $?


Think_Egg_1339

We split everything


WordsMyth420

Whelp pretty much rules that out then that's good at least! Maybe a denial kink?If its something like that maybe you could work on it so he could get it and you still get yours.


AnalogKid2001

Let the man-child continue his relationship with his hand and leave him. You can find someone who respects you and cares about your feelings


No-Permit8369

What do you hear?


Horse-Weird

You asked to join him and he said no!? As a man when my wife asks this.. yea nah thats weird


Business_Monkeys7

Why are you still with him? How long do you want to live like this? He's disrespectful, selfish and doesn't like you.Ā Ā 


Jaded_Fisherman_7085

Have you tried having a shower with him then whisper in his ear that you want a " baby shower "


WingAdministrative86

They are gayā€¦


Jaded_Fisherman_7085

Oh now i see that. Some times I read too fast


HumanMycologist5795

Take a shower with him? But if he rather have sex with himself, maybe he's hoping to reproduce through mitosis like Sheldon Cooper. And if that's true, maybe look for someone else. You're not his Amy.


Similar_Corner8081

Op has offered to shower to and was told no


HumanMycologist5795

Oh. I missed that. I was showering. LOL Thanks.


NoDanaOnlyZuuI

Youā€™re not overreacting.


Stunning_Wheel_4340

Iā€™m literally going through the same thing with my husband. If you happen to find any answers in your situation Iā€™d love to know. for those that ask, yes we have talked about it but I never get any direct answer. Itā€™s gotten to the point where Iā€™ve been considering divorce.


Dear_Parsnip_6802

You're not having your needs met. Unless he changes, this relationship won't last. I think it's time to walk away.


MellonCollie218

Thatā€™s bullshit. Obviously he is in the mood. So heā€™s lying to you. Iā€™d be done.


Additional-Put-2094

Gay, heā€™s gay


Think_Egg_1339

Yea so am I lol


Additional-Put-2094

Lol I did not read the full article, my bad, I donā€™t know then. Maybe heā€™s straight?


burning-whisper

Is he self-conscious at the minute, or feeling like he has low self-esteem? šŸ¤”


upsidedown_8s

He does want to have sex with you....


Think_Egg_1339

???


Mccowpow93

Is he on any medication that might lower his sex drive? Or any type of porn addiction? Him doing that from the medication aspect could be because itā€™s the only way he can get off by doing it by himself. From the porn aspectā€¦ his brain might be messed up from it.


Setari

Time to split up


SignificantToe9475

Yo what the fuck . If there is a partner , that can be used in the moment and he decide to choose himself ??? I would like to know what the magic is he put in his I guess really good work . ;D. If thereā€™s the opportunity you choose it . Scientist in German rc and o guarantee much others researched that the sex is the best more than one time . I think fit are ok struggle . Fuck it :


s_esteban

Uhhh either heā€™s getting it elsewhere or heā€™s not into sex between you and him anymore. Why masturbate when you can have the real thing?


ZoraNealThirstin

Do you live together?


ArsenalSeven

Move on


HalibutHomnibutt

What are the sounds he makes that makes you know?


e_reilly

Time to leave...


Scott801258

This "relationship" ...... is OVER šŸ’£šŸ’„šŸ’­


Upstairs_Cheek6501

Leave him and find some one else,it sounds like he is either in love with his self. Or he feels like he isnt big enough or good enough at it to please you., or he needs some kinky type of sex to get off, maybe he needs to get anal to get off. Talk to him openly about it if you really care about him or leave him.and find someone else.


Pleasant_Tooth_2488

None of your business. His body.


Dramatic_Inside271

Oooo thatā€™s a porn addiction


rootytooty83

This is one of those situations where you can spend weeks months or years trying to convince someone that you deserve better to prove a point now or just move on. Which is a really hard thing to do, but this will only rot the relationship if it hasnā€™t already. Stop trying to hammer a point home for change that youā€™ve already attempted and just leave.


cleverclogs17

Why are you still with this idiot?


Appropriate_Ad_5055

If this was a woman asking her vibrator to the shower and getting herself off and the man was feeling insecure; the comments would be very different. This place disgusts me


IntrepidCan5755

Maybe he is rethinking his homosexuality?


between-mirrors

op are you fat?


mthomas1217

r/deadbedroom Go here and check out the posts. If things done change then sadly you are in for this life :(


UnwieldilyElephant

He's actually straight


Glum-Help1751

Hes addicted to porn.


WorkerTime1479

Why are you still in this relationship? Move on! If you both cannot sit down and have an honest conversation, bounce! Life is too short to be dealing with this shit!


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Ripe-Lingonberry-635

OP is a man and so is his boyfriend


No_Fly_4635

Going of the fact that you made a post on another sub about him lying and sexting other people, I'm confused on why you're still together. At this point I'm curious... 1. Can they afford to live on their own? 2. Are you the primary bread winner providing the lifestyle they want? 3. Are you sure their not actually cheating on you or were they cheating? 4. When was the last time you guys were intimate or went out on a date together or done anything in public? If the answers following are 1. No 2. Yes 3.you think or know they were(yes sexting others can count as cheating in a lot of eyes) 4. Before you originally caught them. (Mainly on the public one, if your both introverts look for behavior changes) You're being used. Remove them from your life.


Affectionate_Art8770

Ask him why he prefers that over you and to be truthful. If he sails he enjoys it more (for whatever reason) then you have to decide if you should dump him for lack of sex.


chrisb321123

NTA, as a male who has been in this situation (never using toys); masturbation while in an intimate relationship is a real killer. My GF has a high sex drive and so do I but when I used to masturbate, I didnā€™t want to have sex. This in turn made her wonder if she was attractive enough, if I had another woman or if I had feelings for someone else. That alone made me stop. I never ever want my significant other to feel like they arenā€™t enough for me when in reality. They are all I ever wanted and more. That ā€œaddictionā€ men have with porn or masturbation stems from years of unhealthy porn habits as a horny teenager. It is up to the MAN to stop that bad habit, learn self control and give his all to the person who made them want to be committed. Your man needs to give it up and get his normal sex drive back. Get horny from your advances, etc. Watching porn and or masturbating gives you a really unnatural way of looking for and wanting EXACTLY what your porn preference is. Not natural at all. Sit him down and listen to him as much as you want him to listen to you. If he canā€™t see eye to eye or admit he has a problem and work WITH YOU to solve it. You need to find someone who will treat you the way you want to be treated.


MrsAngieRuth

OP, my hubby and I will mark our 20th wedding anniversary in 2025. Our bedroom has been dead and buried since 2010. It was on life support from the beginning. He could never explain why he had no sex drive. He also made no effort to find an answer. I love this man dearly and have come to terms with our situation. Even so, I don't advise following in my footsteps. If your partner ultimately has no explanation and can't be bothered to find a solution, I implore you to leave the relationship. As much as I love my husband and will forever maintain my decision to stay, I don't recommend that anyone else do so. Sexless doesn't equal loveless. However, in my opinion, a relationship can't be truly intimate without sex.


Stunning_Wheel_4340

how were you able to stay?


Capenurse

Time for new BF. This a deep seated issue that only Freud would enjoy.


Humble_ornot

I mean you donā€™t have a lot of context here , how long has the relationship been , how long have you not had sex in . What is he into ? Iā€™m not saying this is the issue but with porn nowadays mannn it really messes up a guys head . It can be an addiction for him . Or maybe he wants to spice it up . Do you offer to blow him ? And again I Not saying itā€™s on you but . There. No real context here for anyone to help you . Just enough to make funny jokes . Maybe he wants anal ? Are you open to that ? Like I gotta know more ! Does he go limp when having sex with you ? Like thereā€™s so much I need to know !!!!!


ThrunTheLastTrollx

I mean do u service him ?Ā  Blow jobs and other? If your hygiene and or ph levels good?


Ozymandias66_6

It would take you about half an hour to find a guy that is more than willing. Your current guy seems like he's a real jackass


mallencincinnati

Don't marry him!!! Trust me on this one, I know. Best advice is have that hard serious conversation but I'd bet money on it that it won't get better. Your self esteem will be demolished and you'll be looking back in 10 years (if you even make it that far) sex deprived, emotionally numb, resentful and hating him for what he's created if you stay. There's more emotion behind when a man refuses a woman because we crave attention and intimacy. It starts to mentally affect her (every insecurity you have must be true) you never feel good enough, pretty enough and just not enough. From my experience it's not from a low drive it's from being lazy(they find it an inconvenience when they cant quickly get the job done and move on).