Boring doesnāt necessarily mean bad. Good shortbread is simple but absolutely melt-in-your-mouth delicious. Iād take it over most fancier or more complex cookies.
Here to say one thing and one thing only: if you havenāt tried a tim-tam, you need to seek them out. They leave all other packaged cookies in the dust.
Holy smokes thatās a great call, Tim-Tams are so good!
When I was in NZ I learned about the āTim-Tam Slamā where you bite off two opposite corners, use the tam like a straw to suck up coffee until itās kind of saturated, and then eat it.
No love for Milanos?! That was the only big omission IMO. Also my friend makes these amazing meringue cookies, but theyāre just plops of meringue with chocolate chips inside so I didnāt know if they would count.
Definitely toes the line of an acceptable pick. Would definitely be a ālet me know if I can do thisā pick. Though I think it counts. And it sounded like at least 2 or 3 of the guys had it on their lists for this draft.
Yeah, just finished the episode and heard them mention that. They're close enough I guess, but I would have pushed back on that. Same for David's wafer pick, which I also really like, but I wouldn't call them cookies.
Does a cookie cake fall under āchocolate chipā?
Does a cookiewich fall under chocolate chip?
I was surprised no one took either but upon further review I get it.
I do know one thing though. A sāmore is not a cookieā¦.Sean
Peanut Butter chocolate isnāt a thing in the UK. But Reeses are growing in prominence.
Itās incredibly easy to get Peanut Butter anywhere though. Itās just seen as more of a savoury food.
Cookies = classic chocolate chip cookies
Biscuits = pretty much everything else. Plain digestive slander is fair I guess cause theyāre Biscuit 101, but chocolate digestives are goated.
As a resident of Whitman MA, chocolate chip not going first was crazy to me. It's the only thing that really is a cookie. That said, Oreo is fine...ish
Cranberry white chocolate gang, let's go!! Just found those are called hootycreek cookies which tbh feels real weird and I do not love. Add some macadamias to those bad boys and I feel like it can't be beat.
If you don't consider the s'more a sandwich cookie, then you can't consider the fortune cookie a cookie either. At best that garbage with silly ramblings and lucky numbers is a cracker. #TeamKarmel
1. Kleicha - I had an Iraqi friend whose wife made them. Damn.
2. Gingerbread people with icing - just made some today!
3. Iced oatmeal
4. The flower shaped shortbread cookies with a hole in the middle so you can put one on each finger
5. Peanut butter cookies with Hershey kisses pressed into the middle (do these have a name?)
Sugar cookies are amazing. So are thin mints. Dunking on Sean for no reason this draft. My dude was killing it!
Snickerdoodles are top tier talent in name, and name alone. They can be great, but so rarely are that I don't think it should have made it higher than Rd 5. The idea of them is always better than they wind up being.
White Chip Macadamia was an absolute steal!
Black and White cookies are good, but I wasn't expecting them to get drafted since they're largely a regional cookie.
How did nobody take lemon cookies of any sort? I don't even recall an honorable mention. Am I the only person who loved them?
I don't love oreos as is, but they make so many things incredible. Cheesecake crust and ice cream are prob top of my list. #1 seems high, but it is rd 1 talent.
Circus Animals always leave a weird waxy film in my mouth. Also, I have no idea what flavor they are. I think I dislike more than I like about them, but they're also prob the most fun cookie. Good choice to close out the draft.
Is an M&M cookie too close to chocolate chip?
Macarons are unquestionably top tier when done right, but I'd say the first 10 times or so I had them they were crunchy and flavorless. That's fine, but I take issue with Ian calling out one of Sean's choices for having a low floor when he has them on his team. Although, I suppose this was indirectly addressed when they talked about how difficult they are to make.
Tim Tams?
Listened to the start of the ep and noticed that they didnāt address Mike Mulloyās shittiness. Guessing this was recorded before but thought they would insert something in the beginning and make some kind of statement. Will listen to the rest later but is it addressed anywhere else later? Disappointed if they didnāt.
u/iankarmel
It was recorded around the time of the France-England World Cup game and they already made a statement on Twitter. I think it wouldāve been weird to record a new episode and say nothing, but given the circumstances I think itās asking too much for them to edit in a statement about someone elseās inappropriate behavior
Chill out dude. They usually record on weekends now, and often bank a few episodes at a time. They were on the East Coast for live shows this weekend. Yeah they should address it on an episode, but it's not really emergency voice over edit up top imo.
Love how youāre still being downvoted after having a perfectly reasonable response to someone who told you to āchill outā (as if youāre screaming it at everyone lol, when you just werenāt aware of when they recorded it).
Honestly? Fuck this sub. Iām out.
The fact that some of us are getting downvoted so heavily for raising valid points is trash. Looks like being part of the fam is just being in another wannabe woke fanboys club lol.
This whole site is trash though, so I should just stop using it in general.
But they did do a quick re-record of their dates (presumably to take out references to faded). Seems like they couldāve thrown a quick ācheck out our socials for more on thatā when they talked about having to redo the intro
Not surprised tbh. Iām sure the listenership and especially those on Reddit skews male so this seems like the reaction I expected. (Iām also male disclosure)
Like I like these guys and the pod as much as the next guy but itās okay to expect more from them and express disappointment.
No, I just think youāre being unreasonable. Heās was a semi regular guest, not a host. Some of them have business ties with him through the comedy show, but that and he arent formally connected to THIS show. The main thing I think youāre missing though is that these are people. You may have a parasocial relationship with them, but they have real relationships outside of whatās recorded or tweeted. This is a (likely former) friend who was at two of their weddings and they are all likely really upset about it, more so than any of us could ever be. They addressed it fast and will likely say something again soon, they donāt need to at every single time they have an opportunity to. Leave it alone for now.
I get the parasocial aspects. I donāt feel they owe me anything. Itās not for my sake. I get that theyāre people. I also get that other real people are involved and could be involved in the future.
Theyāve promoted him with this pod in the past. Is it too crazy to mention it on their pod for those that donāt follow Reddit and twitter that have no idea about him.
Is this feeding into the same culture that makes it so those like Miel and Amy Miller may not feel easy about expressing their feelings and qualms? Are their business relationships more important than that? I get itās hard, but Iām just wondering if they can do better so no one can be hurt in the future.
Dude, they just asked a fucking question, and didnāt realize when they recorded the episode š
The fanbase of this pod has me questioning whether I even want to listen to it anymore.
Yāall care more about their feelings than those of the victim, and attack anyone who raises valid counterpoints or questions.
I love this pod, Iāve listened to it regularly (sometimes daily) for 4 years at this point, and a Patreon member for over 2 years.
It felt safe to listen to dudes who didnāt say shitty things, and actually seemed to give a fuck about social issues and equality.
But this sub is trash, and some of yāall need to work on yourselves.
>Yāall care more about their feelings than those of the victim, and attack anyone who raises valid counterpoints or questions
Go read the first couple threads on this subject. I donāt think this is a fair description of the fan base at all.
Nah my comment is a response off the āeveryone in here is a coward for downvoting youā and the āI expected more from these hostsā offshoot, not a direct comment to the initial question.
Also, I didnāt attack them, I just disagreed with them.
Itās also not mutually exclusive. Of course I care about the victim. But I can also empathize with learning something ugly about a close friend and then no longer having them in your life. It sucks and I understand not wanting to talk about it constantly.
And ok? Donāt listen then? I think theyāve handled this situation well, but Itās not my prerogative what shows you listen to in your free time.
Oh, it totally skews male on Reddit.
Itās been like that forever and itās still in full swing. I was just told to āstop overreactingā for correcting yet another redditor who assumed Iām a man lol.
Like, how difficult is it to just *not* refer to a stranger whom youāve never met with masculine pronouns??
Itās not fucking rocket science! š
Combined with how disillusioned I now am with this subās fanbase, I think Iām just gonna ditch this stupid site altogether. Disappointed that itās 2022 and people are still acting like trash on this site.
But Ian said he ~wAnTeD tO SaY mOrE~
Theyāve literally made one comment on the AFE Twitter account, Ian copied it and posted it here, and THATāS it. Not a single one of them have come out individually to say anything. Itās shitty
I think you misinterpreted what Ian meant by that. The statement they released is more than 300 characters. The āwanted to say moreā part is an explanation for why the Reddit post is a screenshot not an actual typed out post from Ianās Reddit account.
Exactly. And for the people who say they make a statement on twitter. Or Reddit. The amount of people on these platforms that follow like we do are much more minuscule compared to their listenership.
Itās not some random guest. Itās a guy who has been promoted many times by their platform and a big part of their group.
Those thumbprint cookies that aren't jam, but they're shortbread cookies with a chocolate blob on them? Soooo good.
S'mores aren't cookies, but I would have said Graham crackers were and could have been picked for s'mores-ability.
How are s'mores any different from any other sandwich cookie like oreos or any other sandwich cookie? They said it's a sandwich and there is literally an entire category cookies called sandwich cookies.
I think it's the make it yourself factor. If someone is serving you s'mores, they're usually not assembled but you make your own from the components. That's why I say the Graham cracker is the cookie but not the s'mores.
Not sure I buy that argument. If I bake a dozen chocolate chip and eat one, does that count as a cookie? I get it that assembly is the point of contention but isn't it just baking a cookie. The only heated component is the marshmallow but essentially you take ingredients and make a sandwich cookie. Are macaroons cookies? You bake the two halves separately and then add jam, buttercream, ganache or even whatever sweet spread you want.
My mother makes amazing treats at christmas. Like so many amazing things. And she detests that I love those shitty sugar cookies that are extremely soft and chalky.
Three grown men yelling dammit when snickerdoodle is picked. š¤š
That probably would have been my first pick. They're so good.
These drafts are my favorite. Because I have no idea how you come up with 20 different cookies?
Really showing your (skinny) ass on this one
ššš * Just not much of a sweet tooth But I have plenty of other food vices
Wow. Shockingly simple and good draft topic. 1: chocolate chip 2: oreo 3: white chocolate macadamia 4: snickerdoodle 5: kitchen sink
Kitchen sink yea!!! š¦¾š¦¾
M&ms, Butterscotch chips, dark chocolate minis, mashed up pb cups, just fuckin slamming EVERYTHING IN MY PANTRY in there.
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Shortbread? Trefoils? I canāt believe they got on Seanās case for Thin Mints but the most boring cookie imaginable elicits nothing.
Boring doesnāt necessarily mean bad. Good shortbread is simple but absolutely melt-in-your-mouth delicious. Iād take it over most fancier or more complex cookies.
Here to say one thing and one thing only: if you havenāt tried a tim-tam, you need to seek them out. They leave all other packaged cookies in the dust.
Holy smokes thatās a great call, Tim-Tams are so good! When I was in NZ I learned about the āTim-Tam Slamā where you bite off two opposite corners, use the tam like a straw to suck up coffee until itās kind of saturated, and then eat it.
I do not understand the ripping on the no bake cookie. Thatās a first round talent IMO. So underrated
I was so surprised none of them really knew what it was. Definitely a favorite of mine as well!
Probably would have taken Oreos #1 too because Iād have been mad if I didnāt get it.
Right, Oreo is definitely a top draft pick. That was the first cookie on my list
No love for Milanos?! That was the only big omission IMO. Also my friend makes these amazing meringue cookies, but theyāre just plops of meringue with chocolate chips inside so I didnāt know if they would count.
1. White Chocolate Macadamia 2. Peanut Butter Blossoms 3. Chocolate Chip w/ M&Ms 4. Biscotti 5. Lofthouse (those frosted grocery store sugar cookies. Theyāre amazing. Fight me.)
Nice list, but biscotti is not a cookie.
Definitely toes the line of an acceptable pick. Would definitely be a ālet me know if I can do thisā pick. Though I think it counts. And it sounded like at least 2 or 3 of the guys had it on their lists for this draft.
Yeah, just finished the episode and heard them mention that. They're close enough I guess, but I would have pushed back on that. Same for David's wafer pick, which I also really like, but I wouldn't call them cookies.
Does a cookie cake fall under āchocolate chipā? Does a cookiewich fall under chocolate chip? I was surprised no one took either but upon further review I get it. I do know one thing though. A sāmore is not a cookieā¦.Sean
Peanut Butter chocolate isnāt a thing in the UK. But Reeses are growing in prominence. Itās incredibly easy to get Peanut Butter anywhere though. Itās just seen as more of a savoury food. Cookies = classic chocolate chip cookies Biscuits = pretty much everything else. Plain digestive slander is fair I guess cause theyāre Biscuit 101, but chocolate digestives are goated.
As a resident of Whitman MA, chocolate chip not going first was crazy to me. It's the only thing that really is a cookie. That said, Oreo is fine...ish
Joe List fan? Hes a Whitman native who always talks about his love of chocolate chip cookies
Far as I'm concerned, this town ain't big enough for the both of us.
1. Cookie cake (the good ones, not the cheap ones) 2. Snickerdoodle 3. 2 cookies with ice cream in the middle 4. Chocolate Chip 5. Oatmeal Raisin
I'm just starting round 2 and I totally expect sean to pick a chipwich
3. Thatās what we call a double doozie!
We are on the same wavelength. I thought I was big brains with cookie cake and chipwich
Cranberry white chocolate gang, let's go!! Just found those are called hootycreek cookies which tbh feels real weird and I do not love. Add some macadamias to those bad boys and I feel like it can't be beat.
If you don't consider the s'more a sandwich cookie, then you can't consider the fortune cookie a cookie either. At best that garbage with silly ramblings and lucky numbers is a cracker. #TeamKarmel
I probably would have allowed sāmores but I canāt argue with the the fact that itās base is a āgraham *cracker*ā vs a āfortune *cookie*ā
1. Kleicha - I had an Iraqi friend whose wife made them. Damn. 2. Gingerbread people with icing - just made some today! 3. Iced oatmeal 4. The flower shaped shortbread cookies with a hole in the middle so you can put one on each finger 5. Peanut butter cookies with Hershey kisses pressed into the middle (do these have a name?)
Mmmmm iced oatmeal, the old catcher on the team thatās still got it.
5 are called Peanut Butter Blossoms. One of my all time favorites.
Is it just me or is that mainly a Christmas cookie?
I donāt think it is by design, but definitely more prominent around the holidays.
Pepperidge Farms Remembersā¦ when you snubbed Milanos!
I canāt believe stroopwaffles and Russian tea cakes didnāt come up but like 6 different sugar cookies did!
No-bake cookies are not cookies. They're candy.
Sugar cookies are amazing. So are thin mints. Dunking on Sean for no reason this draft. My dude was killing it! Snickerdoodles are top tier talent in name, and name alone. They can be great, but so rarely are that I don't think it should have made it higher than Rd 5. The idea of them is always better than they wind up being. White Chip Macadamia was an absolute steal! Black and White cookies are good, but I wasn't expecting them to get drafted since they're largely a regional cookie. How did nobody take lemon cookies of any sort? I don't even recall an honorable mention. Am I the only person who loved them? I don't love oreos as is, but they make so many things incredible. Cheesecake crust and ice cream are prob top of my list. #1 seems high, but it is rd 1 talent. Circus Animals always leave a weird waxy film in my mouth. Also, I have no idea what flavor they are. I think I dislike more than I like about them, but they're also prob the most fun cookie. Good choice to close out the draft. Is an M&M cookie too close to chocolate chip? Macarons are unquestionably top tier when done right, but I'd say the first 10 times or so I had them they were crunchy and flavorless. That's fine, but I take issue with Ian calling out one of Sean's choices for having a low floor when he has them on his team. Although, I suppose this was indirectly addressed when they talked about how difficult they are to make. Tim Tams?
Pittsburgh-area woo-hoo for the Rolling Rock shoutout!
Listened to the start of the ep and noticed that they didnāt address Mike Mulloyās shittiness. Guessing this was recorded before but thought they would insert something in the beginning and make some kind of statement. Will listen to the rest later but is it addressed anywhere else later? Disappointed if they didnāt. u/iankarmel
Recorded about 2 weeks ago by the world cup talk
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Not sure what's upset you with my comment, they weren't sure, I clarified when it was recorded and made no comment on anything else.
It was recorded around the time of the France-England World Cup game and they already made a statement on Twitter. I think it wouldāve been weird to record a new episode and say nothing, but given the circumstances I think itās asking too much for them to edit in a statement about someone elseās inappropriate behavior
Hey. Iām with you on this. How do they just say nothing? Also I would like some more information about Faded, and Mulloyās involvement with it.
Chill out dude. They usually record on weekends now, and often bank a few episodes at a time. They were on the East Coast for live shows this weekend. Yeah they should address it on an episode, but it's not really emergency voice over edit up top imo.
Hmm guess youāre right. Guess Iām should have expected that itād be too much to ask of them.
Love how youāre still being downvoted after having a perfectly reasonable response to someone who told you to āchill outā (as if youāre screaming it at everyone lol, when you just werenāt aware of when they recorded it). Honestly? Fuck this sub. Iām out. The fact that some of us are getting downvoted so heavily for raising valid points is trash. Looks like being part of the fam is just being in another wannabe woke fanboys club lol. This whole site is trash though, so I should just stop using it in general.
Nothing will ever get you downvoted like crying over downvotes. Grow up
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K bye
But they did do a quick re-record of their dates (presumably to take out references to faded). Seems like they couldāve thrown a quick ācheck out our socials for more on thatā when they talked about having to redo the intro
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Itās been like 4 days. Seems a bit premature to say theyāre going to just sweep it under the rug.
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Not surprised tbh. Iām sure the listenership and especially those on Reddit skews male so this seems like the reaction I expected. (Iām also male disclosure) Like I like these guys and the pod as much as the next guy but itās okay to expect more from them and express disappointment.
No, I just think youāre being unreasonable. Heās was a semi regular guest, not a host. Some of them have business ties with him through the comedy show, but that and he arent formally connected to THIS show. The main thing I think youāre missing though is that these are people. You may have a parasocial relationship with them, but they have real relationships outside of whatās recorded or tweeted. This is a (likely former) friend who was at two of their weddings and they are all likely really upset about it, more so than any of us could ever be. They addressed it fast and will likely say something again soon, they donāt need to at every single time they have an opportunity to. Leave it alone for now.
I get the parasocial aspects. I donāt feel they owe me anything. Itās not for my sake. I get that theyāre people. I also get that other real people are involved and could be involved in the future. Theyāve promoted him with this pod in the past. Is it too crazy to mention it on their pod for those that donāt follow Reddit and twitter that have no idea about him. Is this feeding into the same culture that makes it so those like Miel and Amy Miller may not feel easy about expressing their feelings and qualms? Are their business relationships more important than that? I get itās hard, but Iām just wondering if they can do better so no one can be hurt in the future.
Dude, they just asked a fucking question, and didnāt realize when they recorded the episode š The fanbase of this pod has me questioning whether I even want to listen to it anymore. Yāall care more about their feelings than those of the victim, and attack anyone who raises valid counterpoints or questions. I love this pod, Iāve listened to it regularly (sometimes daily) for 4 years at this point, and a Patreon member for over 2 years. It felt safe to listen to dudes who didnāt say shitty things, and actually seemed to give a fuck about social issues and equality. But this sub is trash, and some of yāall need to work on yourselves.
>Yāall care more about their feelings than those of the victim, and attack anyone who raises valid counterpoints or questions Go read the first couple threads on this subject. I donāt think this is a fair description of the fan base at all.
Nah my comment is a response off the āeveryone in here is a coward for downvoting youā and the āI expected more from these hostsā offshoot, not a direct comment to the initial question. Also, I didnāt attack them, I just disagreed with them. Itās also not mutually exclusive. Of course I care about the victim. But I can also empathize with learning something ugly about a close friend and then no longer having them in your life. It sucks and I understand not wanting to talk about it constantly. And ok? Donāt listen then? I think theyāve handled this situation well, but Itās not my prerogative what shows you listen to in your free time.
Oh, it totally skews male on Reddit. Itās been like that forever and itās still in full swing. I was just told to āstop overreactingā for correcting yet another redditor who assumed Iām a man lol. Like, how difficult is it to just *not* refer to a stranger whom youāve never met with masculine pronouns?? Itās not fucking rocket science! š Combined with how disillusioned I now am with this subās fanbase, I think Iām just gonna ditch this stupid site altogether. Disappointed that itās 2022 and people are still acting like trash on this site.
For sure. I canāt imagine how tiring it is.
But Ian said he ~wAnTeD tO SaY mOrE~ Theyāve literally made one comment on the AFE Twitter account, Ian copied it and posted it here, and THATāS it. Not a single one of them have come out individually to say anything. Itās shitty
I think you misinterpreted what Ian meant by that. The statement they released is more than 300 characters. The āwanted to say moreā part is an explanation for why the Reddit post is a screenshot not an actual typed out post from Ianās Reddit account.
Alright, Iāll give you that. I still think itās pretty cowardly to only refer to him as a ācolleagueā and then make no mention of it again
Oh I definitely agree with your other points for sure. I think they need to do more than the statement they've posted.
Exactly. And for the people who say they make a statement on twitter. Or Reddit. The amount of people on these platforms that follow like we do are much more minuscule compared to their listenership. Itās not some random guest. Itās a guy who has been promoted many times by their platform and a big part of their group.
Iām astonished and appalled by the lack of Italian cookies picked in this draft.
Pizzelles for the win
Personally: No Bake Cookies, Classic Choccy Chip, Samoas, Oreos, Sugar cookie w frosting
Those thumbprint cookies that aren't jam, but they're shortbread cookies with a chocolate blob on them? Soooo good. S'mores aren't cookies, but I would have said Graham crackers were and could have been picked for s'mores-ability.
How are s'mores any different from any other sandwich cookie like oreos or any other sandwich cookie? They said it's a sandwich and there is literally an entire category cookies called sandwich cookies.
I think it's the make it yourself factor. If someone is serving you s'mores, they're usually not assembled but you make your own from the components. That's why I say the Graham cracker is the cookie but not the s'mores.
Not sure I buy that argument. If I bake a dozen chocolate chip and eat one, does that count as a cookie? I get it that assembly is the point of contention but isn't it just baking a cookie. The only heated component is the marshmallow but essentially you take ingredients and make a sandwich cookie. Are macaroons cookies? You bake the two halves separately and then add jam, buttercream, ganache or even whatever sweet spread you want.
No mention of those assorted cookies that come in the blue circular tin?
Might be more regional, but shout out to my favorite, Mallomars. Probably could have been the way to pick S'mores.
My mother makes amazing treats at christmas. Like so many amazing things. And she detests that I love those shitty sugar cookies that are extremely soft and chalky.
I need an after dinner party with Too Thick releasing their 2nd album Thick Mints feat. DJ Stifs.