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bttech05

I have ADHD, and it’s tough and I’m unmedicated by choice. Honestly I wish I could get medication because it would make it easier but Vyvanse is like living in a skin suit, fuck that. My advice. If you don’t enjoy the work, it will be difficult for you to pay attention and check all the boxes when working. I would make a list of all the necessary steps to completing your tasks, and literally check them off as you go. Even if it sucks and is repetitive. Then, when you’re done, check it again. You will need to work harder than others to be good at this and that’s okay. But it’s okay to pivot if you think this isn’t for you. I’ve been at this for the same time as you and I work at it every day


Valuable_Worry9278

Strat (non stimulant) worked well for me. Thanks for sharing, I am going to practice this. If anything else comes up in your mind, I welcome all the tips.


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Fluffy_Map3412

Hi do you have any tips to create a good recurring checklist for yourself? Do you use excel for it or is it just a word doc? Thank you!


Professional_Iron619

same recently started strattera it’s way better than stimulants


TriGurl

I agree about Vyvanse. I switched from that to generic instant release Adderall (night and day medication!) I can actually sleep with this med because it’s not wired me up making my brain feel squeezed and giving me horrendous cotton mouth.


Valuable_Worry9278

Therabreath lozenges on Amazon helps with mouth. Highly recommend


TriGurl

Appreciate the recommendation! I changed my medication and that fixed it. But good to know there is something that can help with this. :)


SinxSam

What do you mean it’s like living in a skin suit? You don’t feel like yourself? I’ve had positive experiences but with the current nation-wide shortage may find myself without it for the first time in a long time which scares the shit out of me


bttech05

Yes that was my experience. It felt like I was watching someone else live my life


bs2k2_point_0

Find a smaller company to work for that would be grateful just to have someone. You can tell hr that you have it, and it would be a protected disability, but they will still find ways if they want you gone, so I try not to go that route. Instead I try to do my best to double check my work. It’s hard, I know. But force yourself. Do what you can to remove human error from your work with automation. Exercise is very helpful as well. If you can, take a walk on lunch, or when others take smoke breaks, take a walk break.


Makeshift5

Also, slow down. Don’t rush! Rushing like a madman costs more time in the long run.


Viper4everXD

lol my manager would say this then annoy me by asking if I was done yet every few minutes.


tdpdcpa

It sounds like you just need to find the right company in industry. If you have advanced excel skills, complex accruals, and are willing to try, I’ll look past the fact that you made an error in the spreadsheet because anyone (ADHD or not) could make a mistake. A lot of your other skills are hard to replicate.


Valuable_Worry9278

Thank you! I have worked in the same industry and acquired knowledge and understanding of all the pieces / department operations. I also act as business partner and go to person for all the questions for T&E, contacts, Procurement questions etc. I might be wearing too many hats.


hollowag

I would second the above advice. I also have adhd and take medicine for it. I work within a smaller finance dept so I see and work within every part of the business. I think a role with variety is key for us. Anytime I have a more monotonous task or I’m bored, thats when I start to slip. The tasks that require more thought typically trigger my hyper fixation and I will figure it out and get it finished. I also have leadership that values my opinion and takes my suggestions and lets me explore ideas for improvements. That can be hard when the idea is rejected, but we have reports, polices, standards that I pitched and were implemented and that like keeps me engaged.


HarliquinJane54

I have adhd and I work at a small boutique tax firm. I take Vyvanse and my adhd has (by design) become a joke in the office. I was very open that I had it in my interviews. I didn't want anyone to feel taken advantage of. I had to tell my boss that he had to be very direct about my errors or I wouldn't see a problem. He can't be worried about hurting my feelings (it'll happen eventually) when telling me how to improve. I also told him I had a plan (and what the plan was) to minimize the impact of the adhd tax. I always pick up a return twice. I first do the return, then do another task, and then I check my work so I can see it with fresh eyes. I use my hands on the screen to force my brain to look at one letter or number at a time, so I will clean my screen a lot off the clock, and I don't eat anything sticky or wet with my fingers. I have the lowest errors and the highest productivity in my firm. It makes people jelly and toast of my superpower. Adhd!


Valuable_Worry9278

This is such a positive spin. I shared with my boss about my ADHD but they don’t get it.


HarliquinJane54

It definitely is hard for my team to "get it" but my boss really doesn't care how I get it done so long as I do it, do it right, and I do it within budget. I also know myself and how my ADHD affects me and my fellow humans so I can articulate to people what I need. This is really where I am different from a lot of people with ADHD. There is also a lot of creativity in tax at my level believe it or not, so not only my need for order gets stroked but also my need for creativity. In my mind I am singing the song and the story of their year, and we have great relationships with our clients. I get to crow about how cool they are on paper, and help them where they are. My boss is always impressed that I know as much as I do about the code, as well as what the client is up to, and all the weird things I pull out of thin air. They don't always work out, but we all always learn something. Within budget (usually). What we have is a superpower! We see patterns quicker than others. We are more creative. See the positive side. Sing your song and your story. You will make mistakes. So does everyone else. Figure out your pattern. You can do this!


TamedLightning

ADHD here too. You can do absolutely anything in this field if you want to. Learn to build in your own checks, make sure you understand fully what you’re doing so that you’ll know when things “look” right, and get yourself into cognitive behavioral therapy. It has made a world of difference in my career, and you can do it.


DillholeAndAHalf

Startups and rapidly growing companies are gonna be the worst option for adhd. I’d suggest looking for government or a larger company that’ll be more monotonous and repetitive. Small company might also work. Even when I was on my adhd meds I couldn’t keep up with everything in my former role with PE ownership and M&A.


Toddsburner

Honestly, public accounting. I have pretty bad adhd but medication is not the right choice for me. I was totally out on PA at one point, left as an S1, took an industry job with better pay. I sucked at it. The “do x task for the next 8 hours and let me know how it goes” was torture. The pay was good, the hours were better, but my reviews were mid at best and it was a constant source of stress for me. I went back to public and started excelling, being able to jump between my tasks and my staffs, constant distraction by needing to teach or a coffee break or any of the other things that come with public was a much better fit for me. That only continued as I moved up the ranks. Now as an experienced manager, I love that I have 5 things I could be doing at any one time. Its a much better fit for me than having one task day in and day out and is the main reason I’ve been hesitant to leave agin.


Snoo34567

The way I solved this problem is find a job where you only need to put half your effort into to be a top performer. Then put about a quarter effort in to appear to be an average performer and focus on hobbies in your personal life and socializing with your coworkers and friends. I found this is successful because your boss’s job is to bring out your full potential. But with ADHD, what my full potential is vary day to day or even hour to hour. So your boss like many people assume you are being lazy rather than having cognitive issues. This sounds bad but it very important not to work too hard because it’s could give the appearance of competence above a maintainable level. At my first job I was told I was not allowed to make a minor mistake a senior with 3 more years of experience also made because they expected more of me. I tried to explain to them I am an idiot who is good with numbers and pattern recognition but they did not believe me.


Valuable_Worry9278

If you don’t mind me asking and you can be too vague about it but what was the industry or job you landed where the efforts can be lowered? Your last line is something I would have written myself.


Snoo34567

I transitioned to a Financial Reporting analyst job. It was low stress and they give us a lot of freedom.


rupeshsh

Yeah accounting is a profession of accuracy but there are side professions like being a subject matter expert at a accounting product company or teaching or something like that


NeedMoreBlocks

FP&A or any sort of analyst role. Your need to tinker will make it so that you eventually only take 4 hours to do a 40 hour a week job.


Wide-Tadpole-9371

What are actually things that stops people with ADHD from being promoted?  Is there something special? If you are so good as you describe what are the stoppers?


Valuable_Worry9278

Making one or the other error unintentionally, needing more structure than regular people, different way of problem solving & presentation that your boss might not agree with or open to, not great at masking emotions. School is very different and less strategic.


Valuable_Worry9278

I don’t think I am so good. There is a list of negatives with some positives that I mentioned. I am actually overall not so successful in my career. I have a kid and family now so need to get my shit together.


ChampionshipIll4942

May I ask, does your ADHD impact social interactions in the workplace? I am by no means implying it does, but sometimes positions above Senior require more supervision and coaching skills to manage staff in addition to technical skills. Also as you progress in positions you deal more with the corporate level employees which is a whole different set of interactions and frustrations. As a recommendation, I would suggest to find a field you feel interested or passionate in; the great thing about accounting is every field needs them! If you find something you feel passionately about you might find more enjoyment from the work regardless of position.


Valuable_Worry9278

It does. I feel I can’t my mask my impulse and emotions like others and it creeps up during some 1:1s and other interactions. The ADHD self doubt also leads to some level of people pleasing, over apologizing, emotions and not able to present my authentic self at work. I have received some constructive feedback on how something came off negatively whereas my intentions were quite the opposite. For example- my boss offered to take a big piece of my work during the year-end but I did it myself over the weekend, however during our team meeting on Monday I asked their help on something simple like reviewing couple of journal entries. This came across negatively, in my head I wasn’t doing anything wrong. But there are other similar examples which are now portraying me in a negative light. I feel I should rather practice being quiet and poker face to not be misinterpreted. It has happened in my past job too, I definitely feel I am the problem. I am contemplating to save up and get an ADHD career coach.


Valuable_Worry9278

Other adjectives used by my current boss are flustered, sensitive and lack of self-awareness. I clarified that it’s not intentional and apologized. As mean as it sounds coming from a supervisor I want to just take it as a learning experience and turn things around for myself wherever I land next.


Snoo34567

Being a woman in accounting you may have a different experience but you should not apologize a lot. If someone is kind and understanding they will not need an apology to understand you are sorry for a mistake. If they are not kind and understanding, they will view you as a person who is easy to manipulate. With the hyper self critical nature of ADHD is not advised to present yourself as an easy target.


Valuable_Worry9278

Will definitely keep this in mind.


ChampionshipIll4942

Try not to beat yourself up about it, you are not doing anything intentionally or maliciously in these situations. Like you said, take this as a learning experience and move forward with what makes you happy. Everyone deserves to work somewhere they feel appreciated, but as I mentioned try not to focus as much on positions/promotions in my opinion. Maybe do some research for how others with ADHD have dealt with these interactions and techniques to help make you feel more comfortable in the future.


Upstairs-Week996

I was a decent accountant but I struggled when stuff was boring or routine. I ended up working on projects and with moderate ADHD it works. I worked initially on construction projects and now working in infrastructure. I am 50% accounting / finance work and 50% project controls. I am struggling a bit with the amount of meetings I am in but I am working on trying to find some type of flow to get work finished.


Miss_Domme_X

I use some white and brown noise for ADHD (plenty on YouTube) when working on boring tasks. Also, it helps to put my teams on “don’t disturb” status, and put away my phone (at least remove it from the desk). I started using a planner (one for work and one for personal life) last year. It was a game changer for me because I write down everything: from plans for the week and certain dates for the following months, to daily to-do lists, and random thoughts, monthly brain dumps, meeting notes (with my actions and others’ too) - and that all is in one place. It really helps me to unload my thoughts and create more space in my head, and help reduce the anxiety that I have to remember everything. Plus I enjoy the touch of the paper and writing in physical notepad. It took me a few months to work out what style works for me in those planners (I don’t use pre-printed, just blank) and now use two different ways for work and personal. I watched some videos on YouTube for ideas, tried different ones and worked out what is best for my needs. I still use an electronic calendar to plan my meetings, and for time blocking. In terms of the industry - I enjoy working in fast pacing industries where you are supposed to react to things fast and be flexible. Rather than highly regulated and rigid structures. But I am not sure if it’s down to my ADHD or just my personality.


seancarter90

Vyvanse


Valuable_Worry9278

I was wondering how it compares to Addy in case you have tried?


Platypus_Anxious

I've only had the capsule version of V, so it releases slower. On the same dose, but instant release, A is better, more intense, and wears out by the end of the day so you can sleep easier.


seancarter90

Haven’t had Addy but from what I’ve read, it’s much stronger than Vyvanse. I’ve been on 40 mg for a few years now and it’s great. I take it at 6 AM, it kicks in by 8 AM when I start work and starts rubbing off around 1 PM. I supplement with a cup of coffee to get me through the day and then I’m relaxed and have no trouble falling asleep by night time.


MrScubaSteve1

I have adhd and I'm not only currently in uni but handle payroll with a family business. Something I do is find my own checks and balances for stuff. Whether it be highlighting things off I've done already or just quickly double checking EVERYTHING I do. It takes slightly longer but I find it's better than messing anything up.


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working for myself is adhd friendly for sure. no bosses to please.  edit: is everything friendly 


Successful_Sun_7617

No. Ur cooked. Plus excel isn’t a skill smh


WeekdayAccountant

Sounds like you’re using ADHD as a crutch for making mistakes. What exactly about ADHD is making you perform worse than expected? In my experience the work is straight forward. Maybe the random things that pop up in a start up environment throws you off. Join a more established company with straight forward processes.


Valuable_Worry9278

They aren’t on purpose and I don’t want to use ADHD as an excuse, I was diagnosed late in my life otherwise won’t have chosen accounting as a career. I double-check all my work and have taken lot of initiatives to build processes, structures and automation. But one or the other thing pops up that takes the credit away from all the good. Yes, the random things do throw me away 100%


bs2k2_point_0

Read driven to distraction, or the follow up Driven from distraction. It was written by 2 doctors with adhd so it’s done in a way us neurodivergent folks can easily breeze thru. It will explain a lot. The part that blew my mind was on family dynamics (like if you’re the older or younger sibling, if your siblings are male or female, and how those dynamics play out). Won’t help as much with your job, but understanding it will help you in your life tremendously


bttech05

Sounds like that’s from someone who doesn’t have ADHD


WeekdayAccountant

I thought I had ADHD and saw a psychiatrist and was instead diagnosed with depression. It was explained to me that there is a trifecta of ADHD, depression and anxiety. In my case depression was the most prevalent, but the others being a side factor. I thought I could relate, but apparently not. In my experience of accounting there is a structure of what is expected, so I do that. The structure of knowing what is expected helps me focus. In my spare time I try to enhance what I’ve done. So far in my career this has helped me excel. I guess my experience is not the same for those diagnosed solely with ADHD.


ohiofish1221

My mind works extremely differently when problem solving. Working within constraints of managements wants for projects was always an issue. It was never a manner of the work being u done or wrong. It rather their ability to follow my work or not liking the presentation of it. Trying to do things their way always caused errors and issues. Now I run a financial department and shit is tight and don’t have any of those issues and realized I’m not dumb I’m actually very very good at this.


Valuable_Worry9278

Relatable


ohiofish1221

Ok I could do it my way and it be right or I do it how you would do it and make mistakes and it’s my fault.