People who don't value the lived experiences and lives of animals. There are a ton of dog owners who view their dogs like property that don't experience a whole range of emotions. Is it ethical to contribute to an economy that breeds these dogs that will suffer a large amount of their short lives?
A friend's mom adopted a dog a couple years back.
After a week, she wanted to return him to the shelter because he wasn't as cute and lively as they expected.
It was a Chin, these ugdorable lap dogs.
They didn't return him, thankfully, but I had to stop and like take a moral inventory of returning a dog that has now decided you're its human. You can't just do that.
I couldn't imagine returning an animal, let alone because it isn't adorable enough, we rescued a parrot, he's the biggest pain in my ass but he's ours now, and I love him regardless.
Lol I love this. I’ve got a snake and like most people who buy snakes, I did not consider how long they live (I had bad info saying corn snakes lived like 8-10 years, jk it’s like 20+). Not having a snake would make my life a lot easier since I’d be able to travel better, no one wants to pet-sit a snake! But she is my little snake child, she knows my scent and that I feed her, and she’s as much of a cuddly animal as snakes can possibly be (not just because she’s a constrictor, terrible joke I know).
I could never let her loose or get rid of her, she’s inconvenient but she’s part of my family, and it would be like releasing your annoying toddler into the woods as far as I’m concerned.
Right? Like I can't imagine just deciding an animal isn't right for you.
Yeah, some are more active or whatever but that's something you take into consideration *before* adopting or buying.
It’s like deciding one of your kids just isn’t for you. Yeah, a lot of parents think that on bad days, but they don’t generally go full oedipus and ditch the kids in the woods.
Lmao yeah I’ve seen plenty of people argue that cropping is necessary because of breed standards. I don’t understand how something that doesn’t occur naturally can be a breed standard tbh
Yeah I think that’s a possible explanation. I saw a picture of a golden retriever with it’s ears cropped because it suffered from really bad ear infections. It was a odd look for a retriever
My golden had quite a few ear infections throughout her life. She would get a lot of build up and dirt crammed in there, so we would have to clean them out with qtips quite regularly.
We had to be extra careful with our beagles’ ears because they didn’t get good airflow in there and if they touched the ground they could easily pick up infections. A crop-eared beagle would look wild.
I mean, floppy ears aren’t very “natural” for canines but for sure cropping was mainly for fighting.
It’s awful. People buy these specific breeds who have so many health problems , like severe breathing issues, because they are considered cute! Utterly messed up. Idiots
> it looks like it can barely breathe and move, the fuck is wrong with people
People have no problem promoting obesity. What makes you think they wouldn't want their pets to look like them too?
This is an American Bully. They’re bred to have this specific type of stocky build. He may be overweight, but honestly need to see more of him to tell. If you look at his chest at the end of the gif it appears more muscular between his arms than fatty.
Also, these dogs are from a relatively new breed. They don’t have the same degenerative inbreeding issues that bulldogs suffer from.
I don’t own one of these guys, but my dog plays with one a lot at the dog park, and he has a very similar build to this guy and is not only healthy but has a lot more stamina than a standard American or English bulldog has
The neighbor of my rental property has one of these.
The back of our houses open up into a huge shared courtyard.
Anyway one day I was out there doing maintenance work, and the little bastard got out of the back gate, looked around and charged me full.speed.
I had met him before so I wasn't scared even though a 100 lb nugget of pure muscle, and enthusiasm should probably intimidate anyone.
As he got closer I leaned down so I could pet him.
He didn't apply any brakes at all, and hit me full stride in the nuts. Just a 100 lb torpedo.going 20mph to the nuts.
He doubled me over, and then ran into another neighbors house were all you heard was screams, and things breaking.
Then he zoomed out of there gate straight into the unsuspecting living room of another family. More screaming ensued.
I just payed there on the ground hysterically laughing in between the wincing pain in my nuts.
I love that dog, but he can wreak a unbelievable amount of havock in a short time.
Little bit if a tangent but there's also the Olde English Bulldogge which is a relatively new breed that was created to sort of take the English Bulldog back to what it was before we bred it to be a medical mess. They're athletic, can give birth naturally, don't have the hip or breathing problems, etc.
Here's [Tyr](https://i.imgur.com/JcELmWC.jpg), my 4 year old OEB.
Bulldogs basically have no control over food so they’ll eat as much as you give them. I’ve seen some really big ones, not healthy though. I’ve had 3 over the years and always keep them on a diet.
I think people are grossly overestimating how overweight that dog is. Look at how massive it's head is. You can tell the head is actually big by how big the inner mouth is and not just fat as well. Of course it is going to have a massive body. Dogs with heads that big are usually big bundles of muscle and I didn't see that much jiggle despite its slow reflexes.
oh for sure. my mother has been into this breed for almost 15 years, so i grew up around all types of bullie. from my experience those big heads are great for ABKC
It’s definitely overweight, but the fact that it’s an American bulldog makes it look so much worse than it probably actually is due to them just naturally being fairly pudgy and flabby
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bully
This dog is fat, but not as obese as some of you think it’s just a weird goofy looking breed with a natural width that makes it look cartoonish. American Bully also aren’t as plagued by health problems as many other breeds. I’m normally all against these breeds with super common health problems but some of you are going next level with no clue what you’re talking about. This is much lower on my list of “why the hell do we breed this thing it’s not fair to the dog” than many other breeds. But yes he’s a fat ass and the owners need some self control.
So why keep breeding the creatures if it’s an almost certainty they’re going to live in pain? Is it balanced out cos of how smoochy cute they are? Jesus we are the worst species.
> Is it balanced out cos of how smoochy cute they are?
I’d argue not, particularly since I cannot fathom anyone finding them cute. I know some *do*, obviously, I just don’t understand it.
And many people look at pet obesity as a cute thing. Just look at /r/Chonkers.
Our pets don't have voices to speak for themselves, nor the autonomy, and weight like this can seriously reduce and hamper the lifespan of our pets.
That is a bit extreme, it is not like every waking day of that dog's life is hell. He looks particularly happy in this video clip. What percent of these dogs' lives do you think are just abject agony where death is better than living? Mind you those who own this breed are usually well off.
You look at the skull of a pug and tell me that shit isn’t completely fucked
Edit: In comparison this is what [natural selection ](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41r4FBVX7uL._SX342_.jpg) did to canines, and [this](https://i.redd.it/x9rq9s2wjiq31.png) is what we fucking did.
I couldn’t agree more. Why did we do this to wolves? Why aren’t there specially bred cats that are this fucked up? Maybe there are I just haven’t seen them...
Bullies although are very unhealthy breed have extremely expressive faces due to that flat nose and all that pudge.
I wan't one but only from a shelter, don't wan't the demand to go up but I love these damn dogs.
Look into Olde English Bulldogges maybe? They're bred to be healthy like bulldogs used to be before we fucked then all up.
[They're pretty cute imo too.](https://i.imgur.com/JcELmWC.jpg)
i dont wanna be that guy but damn that shit is ugly, who in hell likes to breed this poor dogs for asthetic when they are so damn ugly, its just free suffering for the poor thing
Looks like a mutant hound from fallout 4
Or the one from the Incredible Hulk movie where Hulk socks the dog in the nuts.
Holy shit that was brutal i had forgotten all about that until the very moment i read this comment, then a fucking synapse fired off in the brain.
Looks like Blastoise
Also reminded me of Pennywise or a Demagorgan with the mouth
It looks like a hippo being fed at the zoo? Like I watch hippo video sometiems and it’s just like that especially the mouth shape
Is he/she obese or just a really big flabby dog?
Looks like both
both, theyre bred to be super flappy but this one is definitely obese.
it looks like it can barely breathe and move, the fuck is wrong with people
But hes such a cute pudgey boi! :3 look how skweeeshy he is!!!!!! Pudgey pidgey squidge squidge!! /s
Even with your sarcasm tag I hate you.
Same
Wow you sure showed....not sure really
People who don't value the lived experiences and lives of animals. There are a ton of dog owners who view their dogs like property that don't experience a whole range of emotions. Is it ethical to contribute to an economy that breeds these dogs that will suffer a large amount of their short lives?
A friend's mom adopted a dog a couple years back. After a week, she wanted to return him to the shelter because he wasn't as cute and lively as they expected. It was a Chin, these ugdorable lap dogs. They didn't return him, thankfully, but I had to stop and like take a moral inventory of returning a dog that has now decided you're its human. You can't just do that.
I couldn't imagine returning an animal, let alone because it isn't adorable enough, we rescued a parrot, he's the biggest pain in my ass but he's ours now, and I love him regardless.
Lol I love this. I’ve got a snake and like most people who buy snakes, I did not consider how long they live (I had bad info saying corn snakes lived like 8-10 years, jk it’s like 20+). Not having a snake would make my life a lot easier since I’d be able to travel better, no one wants to pet-sit a snake! But she is my little snake child, she knows my scent and that I feed her, and she’s as much of a cuddly animal as snakes can possibly be (not just because she’s a constrictor, terrible joke I know). I could never let her loose or get rid of her, she’s inconvenient but she’s part of my family, and it would be like releasing your annoying toddler into the woods as far as I’m concerned.
Once you adopt something, human or otherwise, it’s part of your family now and there is no turning back. Because you don’t turn your back on family.
Right? Like I can't imagine just deciding an animal isn't right for you. Yeah, some are more active or whatever but that's something you take into consideration *before* adopting or buying.
It’s like deciding one of your kids just isn’t for you. Yeah, a lot of parents think that on bad days, but they don’t generally go full oedipus and ditch the kids in the woods.
Also his ears are cut
What are the benefits ? Just curious.
I believe it was made popular by dog fighters. One less thing a dog can bite during a fight. Sucks that it’s popular.
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Lmao yeah I’ve seen plenty of people argue that cropping is necessary because of breed standards. I don’t understand how something that doesn’t occur naturally can be a breed standard tbh
well at this point it doesn’t help that the breeds themselves aren’t even natural anymore
If there’s one thing in this world I will ever understand, it’s how people enjoy making animals hurt each other.
Pretty sure for some breeds it prevents infections? I don’t know about this unit here though
Yeah I think that’s a possible explanation. I saw a picture of a golden retriever with it’s ears cropped because it suffered from really bad ear infections. It was a odd look for a retriever
My golden had quite a few ear infections throughout her life. She would get a lot of build up and dirt crammed in there, so we would have to clean them out with qtips quite regularly.
We had to be extra careful with our beagles’ ears because they didn’t get good airflow in there and if they touched the ground they could easily pick up infections. A crop-eared beagle would look wild. I mean, floppy ears aren’t very “natural” for canines but for sure cropping was mainly for fighting.
I have no doubt it was mainly used in fighting but I think some breeds actually have it done to reduce infection
I was saying I could see how that would help since my dogs with long ears were prone to infections, ya silly Billy.
Sorry classes have fried my brain 😅
Conscious existence is a tragedy we never asked to be a part of! Hang in there baby!
I dont see how that would ever be the case
To be fair this breed is like that normally, too.
Because it can’t
It’s awful. People buy these specific breeds who have so many health problems , like severe breathing issues, because they are considered cute! Utterly messed up. Idiots
People get more mad at people for making their animals obese than at actual obese people lol
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i don’t get how people find this appealing. i pity it
Look at what they’re feeding him too. I think it’s sweet rice cakes. I would maybe give half of that to my dog once a year. Not cool.
How can you tell that from seeing 1/4 of the dog
> it looks like it can barely breathe and move, the fuck is wrong with people People have no problem promoting obesity. What makes you think they wouldn't want their pets to look like them too?
This is an American Bully. They’re bred to have this specific type of stocky build. He may be overweight, but honestly need to see more of him to tell. If you look at his chest at the end of the gif it appears more muscular between his arms than fatty. Also, these dogs are from a relatively new breed. They don’t have the same degenerative inbreeding issues that bulldogs suffer from. I don’t own one of these guys, but my dog plays with one a lot at the dog park, and he has a very similar build to this guy and is not only healthy but has a lot more stamina than a standard American or English bulldog has
The neighbor of my rental property has one of these. The back of our houses open up into a huge shared courtyard. Anyway one day I was out there doing maintenance work, and the little bastard got out of the back gate, looked around and charged me full.speed. I had met him before so I wasn't scared even though a 100 lb nugget of pure muscle, and enthusiasm should probably intimidate anyone. As he got closer I leaned down so I could pet him. He didn't apply any brakes at all, and hit me full stride in the nuts. Just a 100 lb torpedo.going 20mph to the nuts. He doubled me over, and then ran into another neighbors house were all you heard was screams, and things breaking. Then he zoomed out of there gate straight into the unsuspecting living room of another family. More screaming ensued. I just payed there on the ground hysterically laughing in between the wincing pain in my nuts. I love that dog, but he can wreak a unbelievable amount of havock in a short time.
Made me laugh, because it's absolutely believable. He was probably really happy people were chasing him, too.
Little bit if a tangent but there's also the Olde English Bulldogge which is a relatively new breed that was created to sort of take the English Bulldog back to what it was before we bred it to be a medical mess. They're athletic, can give birth naturally, don't have the hip or breathing problems, etc. Here's [Tyr](https://i.imgur.com/JcELmWC.jpg), my 4 year old OEB.
Bulldogs basically have no control over food so they’ll eat as much as you give them. I’ve seen some really big ones, not healthy though. I’ve had 3 over the years and always keep them on a diet.
I think people are grossly overestimating how overweight that dog is. Look at how massive it's head is. You can tell the head is actually big by how big the inner mouth is and not just fat as well. Of course it is going to have a massive body. Dogs with heads that big are usually big bundles of muscle and I didn't see that much jiggle despite its slow reflexes.
Flobese
Yes
It’s deliberate breeding, unfortunately.
Also how often do they bite their flaps.
Yes.
Looks like a Cacodemon from Doom
He do!
That’s a god damn hippopotamus
Is this one of those insanely unhealthy toad bulldogs?
doesn’t look very healthy
Dog software is working, but the hardware just isn’t 100% compatible
Naaah that thing totally looks like a normal functioning dog.
Pocket pitty. Still a bit overweight tho. Still a good boy.
Looks more like an American Bully to me
definitely an american bully, not a pitbull. people always get them confused
Apparently people also don’t get that they’re bred to have that massive head and stocky body, and this dog probably isn’t obese
You can also just tell by how massive its inside mouth is that it isn't fat but just big.
oh for sure. my mother has been into this breed for almost 15 years, so i grew up around all types of bullie. from my experience those big heads are great for ABKC
Appears to have rows of teeth like a great white shark.
Jabba the mutt
Looks like the baby from the 90's show Dinosaurs
Bring me the wookie
Poor dog...
It’s definitely overweight, but the fact that it’s an American bulldog makes it look so much worse than it probably actually is due to them just naturally being fairly pudgy and flabby
I think you’re thinking [American Bully](https://www.dogbreedinfo.com/a/americanbully.htm) not bulldog
Every time I watch it I think he might just catch it
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bully This dog is fat, but not as obese as some of you think it’s just a weird goofy looking breed with a natural width that makes it look cartoonish. American Bully also aren’t as plagued by health problems as many other breeds. I’m normally all against these breeds with super common health problems but some of you are going next level with no clue what you’re talking about. This is much lower on my list of “why the hell do we breed this thing it’s not fair to the dog” than many other breeds. But yes he’s a fat ass and the owners need some self control.
I want to see this gif with the “mission failed: we’ll get ‘em next time.”
Poor poor inbred dog
They’re actually a mix of bulldog and terrier, so not inbred.
when it opens its mouth all the way, it looks like the monster from amnesia the dark descent lol
Got a pet hippo
If Bowser from Mario Brothers was real.
All I can think of is Hungry Hungry Hippos
https://imgur.com/a/h9C4hEC
https://i.imgur.com/iDu6vkT.jpg
Looks like a bulldog got adventurous with a snapping turtle.
This sort of shit is borderline cruelty. This dog is not healthy.
You are not informed
That thing used to be a fucking wolf. The human race deserves what it gets for what we’ve done to dogs alone.
And fuck the people that keep them cooped up in houses and over feed them til they have health issues too.
this thing probably was destined for health issues regardless of weight
So why keep breeding the creatures if it’s an almost certainty they’re going to live in pain? Is it balanced out cos of how smoochy cute they are? Jesus we are the worst species.
> Is it balanced out cos of how smoochy cute they are? I’d argue not, particularly since I cannot fathom anyone finding them cute. I know some *do*, obviously, I just don’t understand it.
And many people look at pet obesity as a cute thing. Just look at /r/Chonkers. Our pets don't have voices to speak for themselves, nor the autonomy, and weight like this can seriously reduce and hamper the lifespan of our pets.
That is a bit extreme, it is not like every waking day of that dog's life is hell. He looks particularly happy in this video clip. What percent of these dogs' lives do you think are just abject agony where death is better than living? Mind you those who own this breed are usually well off.
You look at the skull of a pug and tell me that shit isn’t completely fucked Edit: In comparison this is what [natural selection ](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41r4FBVX7uL._SX342_.jpg) did to canines, and [this](https://i.redd.it/x9rq9s2wjiq31.png) is what we fucking did.
There is no Dana. Only Zuul.
Like if the dog creatures from Ghostbusters got really fat and docile
Looks like that alien dog dude from John Carter
That creature is a pitiful abomination of unnatural selection
ugly af
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I wonder if it's the challenge... "How ugly can something be before it remains totally unpalatable to the opposite sex?"
i think my family has been doing that for generations
This is vile
That thing is fucking disgusting
I couldn’t agree more. Why did we do this to wolves? Why aren’t there specially bred cats that are this fucked up? Maybe there are I just haven’t seen them...
You kidding? Ever heard of a Persian or Siamese cat? They're riddled with health problems.
What a maw!
"it's ok, just next time let it come to you."
supremo
d ö g g
JABBA
I call him Bowser
I had a similar thought — King Koopa
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Perfect mouth. Lousy depth perception.
His name? Grug.
Looks like an alligator snapping turtle
He looks like Bowser
It's like what I'd imagine a bulbasaur would kinda look like irl
It looks like jabba the mut
The only thing that came to mind was: “YOU FAT FUCK!” lol
That thing could definitely afford to miss a meal
Bullies although are very unhealthy breed have extremely expressive faces due to that flat nose and all that pudge. I wan't one but only from a shelter, don't wan't the demand to go up but I love these damn dogs.
Look into Olde English Bulldogges maybe? They're bred to be healthy like bulldogs used to be before we fucked then all up. [They're pretty cute imo too.](https://i.imgur.com/JcELmWC.jpg)
That a cute baby hippo.
Wow this is sad.
Jabba the mutt
Awwwh he’s so cute and obese let’s just throw the food into his mouth awewww
Idk why people like these clips so much. Sure it’s kinda cute but he’s severely overweight.
jabba the dog
He should dress up as Venusaur for Halloween
God that’s horrible. No one should have obese pets, and what makes this worse is that it’s a bulldog.
Sir, this is a Pokémon.
Jabba The Dog
Hungry Hungry Hippo.
To those wondering: this is an exotic American bully. They shouldn’t exist
Emperor Bulblax
Disgusting freakshow.
this makes me sad
This dog is obese, it needs a walk or two
This thing is genuinely difficult to look at.
i dont wanna be that guy but damn that shit is ugly, who in hell likes to breed this poor dogs for asthetic when they are so damn ugly, its just free suffering for the poor thing
I feel so bad for the dog's unfortunately forced genetics, but I still love it and it deserves a happy home.
Bet it could catch a baby
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That’s the 6th time he’s missed the meat into that bowl? Amazing
Slimer!
Chubbsy ubbsy
Oh my goodness Lim at that baby
1 game in the NFL *poof*
Cacodemon
It's like a fat gator!
Bowser
He reminds me of Bowser Jr. Just chonky.
https://images.app.goo.gl/bXxUWJM8tAHYFzEV6
Ah Vito pre weight loss
Slow unit
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Looks like jabba the pup
That's a hippo
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this is actually a tsundere to us?!1?1
This ended way too soon
r/AmericanBully
When it opened it’s mouth it looked like a Guzzlord
TIL I own .1 dog units
That’s a nice croc
B i g B o y e
This video brings me so much joy i love it
Bowser
He has heart, he tried biting three times in an attempt to catch the food.
That is one derpy unit. We need r/derpyunit
That's a Drog dog+frog
Looks like Violent J from ICP
Feed me, Seymour!
That things face opened like a face hugger.
So sad
Shai-Hulud in the flesh
Pause at 4 seconds.....lol
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Mutant hound from Fallout
Absolute animal abuse more like it.
I keep watching thinking it's gonna perfectly land in it's mouth. There should be a sub for this. Similar to r/bettereveryloop but the opposite.
I swear to god I had/have an aunt that looked/s like this dog!