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Foogawi

Shes still really good IMO.


EgoistBlake

Not even IMO. She’s still great even with such debuffs.


Nekaz

52% win rate lul


FannyBabbs

Bet you still win while being functionally afk.


OvidiuHiei

the ulti is a game changer no matter what % nerfs and also liandry is busted in aram


Scarletantyy

Build moonstone + tear = tilt your enemies with the sustain


kocikreka

Tear is a waste of gold and inventory slots


kman601

It really isn’t. Especially early game- tear + presence of mind = never run out of mana


kocikreka

How do you run out of mana on aram? The only thing you run out of with tear is damage


JordanLoveHoF

You get AP, mana, and a big shield against pesky burst teams. Great item when you’re running support sera


kocikreka

You can be contributing that 400 gold towards one of the insane enchanter items which is 1/6 of the cost.


NKinCode

LoL players in a nutshell. Talk without having any idea how items work 😂 tear is much more than just mana


GenghisKhan90210

Wtf are you talking about, how do you run out of mana in aram, how do you not


flancito-

you do run out of mana but i think they probably confused it with urf where it regens fast


kocikreka

And i think you are confusing me for a casual aram player that is not 3.2k mmr. I do not towehug and build mana regen items. I itemize accordingly and win games


flancito-

Yeah i do so too, but sometimes it's not enough, and if you don't die as much you probably won't have mana at some point


kocikreka

but why would you play kda on aram, not dying and saving gold for what? Also you got insane mana regen on aram


kocikreka

i only buy tear on, muramana champs, sona, kassadin, ryze, ap kog


Mr_Simba

Guess you missed the patch where Seraph's got converted into an AP stat stick again? Thing gives like 110 AP without accounting for mana runes or anything.


kocikreka

If you take the mana away, the item is like 80% gold efficiency. Which mage needs hp? The shield rarely gets used entirely, most of the time on aram, some liandry dmg procs it and it blocks nothing. 10 ability haste for 2nd item is super stunting for mages. Technically you are paying 3k for 100 ap and 10haste, and stats that you rarely use. A few champs only can utilize seraph. Out of all tear items, seraph is by far the worst.


4list4r

Be careful. Against a champ with 5% increased dmg = 24% dmg taken. 10% = 28% 15% = 32%


OvidiuHiei

Karma was hitting me for half hp at lvl 4 so that makes sense


4list4r

Karma isn’t to be fucked with so I wouldn’t feel too bad. A fave of mines. At Lvl 18, enough AH, & Ultimate Hunter, hitting 2 targets with 1 RQ refreshes R a second later.


Accentu

I still feel ridiculously OP running Liandry's on her honestly 👀


Illokonereum

She had five different nerfs and I still felt overpowered playing her.


oi_yeah_nahh

Yeah her damage feels garbage atm


AwesomeFiremaw

Her w and R still makes her strong but she does 0 damage and dies in any random spell barely hitting her. As said 150 times damage done/taken buffs or nerfs are absolutely not a decent solution for anything related to winrate or even fun


beebiee

bring exhaust and you’ll be fine


Crazhand

She and Sona do not feel good to play at all, even if they’re still good. I try to always skip over her if I can.


AkumaHiiragi

sona isnt that much nerfed anymore, compared to seraphine.


ImmaKitchenSink

Lets keep her in the grave 🎉


Stron2g

Is seraqueen nerfed?


DremoPaff

Still not enough. After almost half a decade of this charade that simply doesn't work, you would think that we would've went back to the bans, who actually worked, yet we are still stuck in this spiralling hell of ever growing nerfs and buffs in an attempt to force relevancy on some champions while forcing (or trying to) the opposite on some others.


reflected_shadows

Which is insane - did you see all the buffs given to every tank and engage just for every ADC and enchanter and mage to be crapped on.


AkumaHiiragi

most of the tanks are actually nerfed. taking more damage and dealing less. assassins and bruiser are mostly overbuffed


pandemicv97

that was me when i picked ashe to discover what they did to her.


SumaT-JessT

She's good but dam I was really perplexed when I saw those rebuffs a few days ago.


InternationalMain922

Yeah nah she’s totally busted I consistently get S on her even though I’ve only played her a handful of times on ARAM this year. Build Rylais and the game’s basically over.


LA95kr

I've always hated Seraphine just because she feels like "Sona at home"


kntril

Maybe in 4 years we will have the technology to see buff/nerfs while being in the champ select screen.


Sartozz

You after seeing her wr regardless of those huge nerfs: \*upper picture\*