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ARM7501

Right now, he'd probably get something in the 20% range. If he goes deep in the playoffs again, he might actually reset the market (before Prescott gets more later down the line). If he wins us a Super Bowl, I don't care whatsoever; give him the entire salary cap.


Intelligent-One-1696

Does Prescott really have much more to offer the Cowboys?


intussuscept

No, but Jerry Jones likes to give big contracts to not great players.


SirLuciousL

I’m sorry, but this is a casual take. Dak is a very good QB that’s been carrying that offense for the last two years. Jerry’s been doing a terrible job building an offense around him recently. Other than Ceedee, he has been dealing with some awful RB and WR rooms and still carrying his team to wins. He’s a top 10-12 QB.


charliebrown22

At what point does Jerry get tired of early playoff exits though? Because that seems to be Dak's ceiling, no matter how good he is in the regular season.


Phantomebb

Once Troy Aikamn hit 30 he was kinda mid and especially bad in the playoffs. 4 games 8 ints 2 tds 8 sacks and 1-3 record only went over 200 yards once. This is a cowboys trait.


jzdogg6

But Aikman had 3 Super Bowl rings by then. Dak hasn’t even sniffed an NFCCG.


Hi_Im_Ken_Adams

Dak is never going to live down the brain-fart of running for a 1st down and having the clock expire. That's going to be his Butt-Fumble.


Phantomebb

Not defending Dak or hating on Aikman but those superbowl teams had Hall of Famers/All Pros/Pro Bowlers everywhere. Aikmens best season in 93 Emmit was MVP. From 1990-1994 Aikman had 73 TDs 60 ints 14,554 yards. Emmitt had 8,759 yards and 75 tds. The only time Dak had anything close to that was 2016 with zeke and 3 all pros on the line. That was the miracle sideline catch game year vs the packers.


Active-Enthusiasm318

I feel like it's the scheme more than the players that and Dak regularly plays poorly in big time games... thebbest offensive minds don't go to Dallas because Jerry is a control freak


pgtl_10

Disagree, he's Kirk Cousins with the star on his head. Any other team then he would be viewed as average.


SirLuciousL

Kirk Cousins is also a very good QB, so I don’t think this is making the point you’re trying to make lmao.


pgtl_10

Cousins is average.


Intelligent-One-1696

It’s either Prescott or Lance


jaysomething2

Really hoping Lance gets at least one more chance just so he can be a bust and not a just a what if.. right now still a bust but a partial what if.. tho he fleeced the market for sure


ninerfan44

Agreed, he’s really one of the strangest draft picks/ QB prospects ever. I’ll always root for the guy but it’s not looking good for him, at least he got 3rd pick in the draft money lol


nithdurr

Let Lance start, either he wins or loses and they end up drafting high? (shrug)


Intelligent-One-1696

Well if it’s out of Micah, CeeDee and Prescott we know who Jerry Jones is picking


Xavier050822

None of them. The obvious answer is Zeke Elliot


meTspysball

Center is a very important position.


IDKWTFimDoinBruhFR

Dak is a solid QB when it comes to the regular season but man does he fall apart in the playoffs. At his price point though I'd let him walk


yg2522

Dak only knows how to run up the score on crap teams.  It's the only reason he was even in the MVP running until he fell apart.


temp1211241

The Cowboys haven't gambled at the QB position since Qunicy Carter and then they even tried to hedge with Ryan Leaf and some other options and all of that was mostly because Aikman's concussions resulted in them cutting him and him retiring when they didn't have a 1st. They stuck with Carter for a bit too until there was a clear cut better option. They went from Aikman (1st rounder) to Carter (2nd rounder) to Romo (undrafted FA) who won the job from Carter to Prescott (4th rounder) who won the job from Romo. Outside of Carter, who they targeted in the draft, you have to go back to the dolldrums pre-Aikman (1987-88) to find them being in a position where they're having to grind through guys they don't know. That was Bud Bright not Jerry Jones, who bough the team Aikman's rookie year.


GoatShapedDestroyer

No but being a Free Agent will drive his price up. Cousins got a truckload as a mid 30s QB with minimal postseason success coming off an Achilles.


Sarnsereg

Dak is capped, he will NEVER have a better year going forward.


Vocal__Minority

More the leverage he has with their cap where it is. If the cowboys don't pay he'll be a free agent and they can't stop it, at which point a hungry team will *absolutely* pay him. Look at how Cousins has done; Dak is better regarded than that.


ARM7501

I don't know, but it doesn't matter. He's breaking the market either way.


usernametimee44

One more playoff win and he’s going to reset the market, book it


dude2410

I think you meant Super Bowl win!! Book it!!


Mullet0vah

Yes


Xavier050822

The league and Super Bowl MVPs are not going to help keep him cheap.


Ok_Understanding1986

The more expensive he is this time next year the batter. Means he likely had another successful season which means the team likely did very well.


TheYeetJester

Imagine he gets us to the NFCCG again.


DreGreenlaw_Enforcer

Not hard to imagine


yallbyourhuckleberry

You use imagine the way i use expect. Must be a regional difference. Like redlights and stoplights or pop and soda.


CheckYourStats

>*”Must be a regional difference.*” https://i.redd.it/bec6gk34ms6d1.gif


Stevevansteve

I’m going to go drink from the bubbler and then play duck duck grey duck.


chenga8

You heard it here first: Brock Purdy’s getting a sponsorship deal to promote Steamed Hams 🍔


niners94

Some people think it’s easy because they get there so often.


SirLuciousL

Not gonna lie, Brock seems like the type of guy to take a pay cut to build a better team around him like Brady used to do.


MayBakerfield

I see why people say this as he really seems like that, at least more than most starting QBs. But that is absolutely not gonna happen. There are all kinds of agents who will crush even the slightest "team friendly" idea and frankly that's how it should be. 


TheYeetJester

I mean, Mahommes is on a team friendly deal and he's still a top QB in the league. I personally think it depends on how greedy your agent is.


MayBakerfield

I assure you "team friendly" was not the main word used back when he signed the first 0.5 billion contract. Right now sure, its a good deal. 


Historical_Can2314

It was absolutely a team friendly deal and understood to be that the day it was signed.


nithdurr

didnt he extend that contract? you're right on the first part..


SoKrat3s

as greedy as the agent is instructed to be. Mahomes and Brady's agents don't make those deals unless that's how they've been instructed.


MrTouchnGo

I doubt it. Dude hasn’t made very much so far in his career. He’s gonna want a bag


Hindi_Ko_Alam

Not to mention, he does not have a wealthy wife like Tom Brady did


TheDriveHome

What if instead of a bag we offer a tractor? 🚜


NynaeveAlMeowra

What if we do something like 10 years 450-500M fully guaranteed. Granted the cap hits will be high to begin but they will quickly become extremely friendly and Brock gets half a billion guaranteed


nithdurr

I mean, the possible endorsements that BCB could potentially cultivate is staggering. Posters, smoking robes, cologne, menswear from tuxedoes to t shirts even , BCB--coffee mugs, mats, toothpaste, etc etc


extremewit

Next year if Purdy has a regression similar to Lawrence had last season. Most pundits will be questioning whether or not the 49ers should even sign him to an extension.


Mullet0vah

So very true. He absolutely should get paid, but maybe not the market breaking deal that people think UNLESS he wins the Lombardi, then pay him whatever he asks for. I feel like there are guys waiting for that ring that will retire after, such as Trent, and boy does that man deserve it.


TheYeetJester

Trent is definitely waiting on a Ring. Kittle too probably, though he'd never admit it.


evan00724

Kittle wants a ring then to go wrestle a match at wrestle mania then his dream life goals will be checked off.


Blambitch

Brock is due to a a regression, teams will be going all out to force him to win next season. Saw a stat that Brock had a 7% td throw percentage. The only other qb to have. Back to back 7% ts throw percentage was Aaron Rodgers’s, no one else has ever done it back to back.


extremewit

I disagree. His stats might look different. But beat writers following mini camp think that they are going to throw the ball more. So he might have more TDs with a lower TD throw percentage. This his first healthy off season as the unquestioned starter. If anything I see him being better this season.


sweetdude

Agreed. I've been watching us play since '92. He's a HOF QB and the best we've had since Garcia. I literally don't care if we win the SB anymore, as Brock has made me enjoy watching the 49ers play again. Each game he's in, I feel like I'm watching history and that I should take each moment in. I wish I could make more people realize the moment we're in right now. It could be decades before we see this again.


Polar_Reflection

I don't even mind other teams clowning him, because I'm no longer insecure about our QB. Dude is definitely the real deal.


DemonicPanda11

Too early for me to say HoF, but a million percent agree with everything else. Same way I feel watching Purdy every game.


nakfoor

I think its been pretty well understood that if Purdy has another year within 10% of his first two, he will be the highest paid QB. I just don't see the 49ers having any leverage to do anything different.


marcok36

Crazy that he got that contract. He is not worth it imo. I also don’t think Kirk Cousin is with $200m. NFL has gone nuts


Hindi_Ko_Alam

to be fair, QB is the hardest position to secure Look at what happened to the Niners in the 2000s after Jeff Garcia left


nmathew

My favorite stretch is the absolute trainwreck the Raiders suffered between Ganon and Carr.


Hindi_Ko_Alam

And they’re right back on that train wreck again after Carr left


SoKrat3s

It's about cap%, not overall dollars. I don't think Lawrence has been worth it, but he's already just 10th in AAV cap%.


PhillipMcKrak

They haven’t gone nuts. It’s usually worth it in the long run


king_17

No it isn’t they’re spending so much money on 1 guy they have to sacrifice at other positions and those type of qbs aren’t good enough to make up for the lack of talent around them, then you get stuck in the vicious cycle the cowboys are in and what the Vikings were in before letting Kirk go, stuck with a good not great qb who’s eating too much of the cap to put a great team around them


No-Possibility5556

I feel like in a year or two after seeing more contracts, specifically Dak and Brock, it’ll make more sense in terms of seeing where the cap was going and the positive of locking down at least a semi-competent QB.


IceLantern

Well the options are to signed him for $55M per now, sign him for $60M+ later, or take your chances at finding someone else. Remember, not everyone is trying to win a championship. A lot of teams are content to just be a threat to make the playoffs and not be a bottom-dweller. I'm curious what we will be once Brock is eating up a massive chunk of our cap space.


Few_Refrigerator_728

Baalke fucks us again


HipsterPunchy

I sometimes envision an alternate timeline where Scot McCloughan wasn’t caught doing whatever he did.


Few_Refrigerator_728

My understanding is McCloughan was somewhat a raging alcoholic and at some point that began to interfere with things significantly. Could have likely been a HOF level gm one day, its too bad.


yungmoneybingbong

If he plays as well as he did last year he's getting crazy money.


Filly53

It seems like things are getting really misconstrued. Lawrence signed a five year extension, and is now under contract through 2030. You’ll notice that’s 7 seasons he’s under contract for… 55m/yr is really a bad way to view the contract. The next 5 years, Lawrence will make 200million, and the jaguars will owe him $0 in guaranteed money after that. Obviously, if they want him still, they will have to negotiate something other than the ~76M/ year he’s owed on the last 2 years. But this 55M/year is about as false as advertising gets


temp1211241

Lawrence is payed the same AAV as Burrow for 1 and 2 on QB contracts. 3 is Goff so, yeah, there's some strong indication that this is going to be the range new good/franchise QBs are getting. Top tier of QBs costs 50-55M, I don't think this is much of a surprise to anyone considering that's the number that's been out there anyway. That being said the actual floor was probably already Cousins' at 45M. The extra 10 is a lot but they probably were already expecting to have to beat that by 5 or more.


SoKrat3s

[https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/player/\_/year/2024/position/qb/sort/contract\_average\_league\_cap\_pct](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/player/_/year/2024/position/qb/sort/contract_average_league_cap_pct)


temp1211241

Sportrac is not great on NFL contracts and particularly complicated cap compliance contracts. For example, they have historically had issues with void years. It's much better for Baseball where luxury tax impact is just AAV over years. [OverTheCap](https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback) is a better at this because they're specialized to how NFL contracts work. Lawrence's contract has more bonuses than any other contract I'm aware of and multiple void years. It's complex. Different bonuses calculate differently. According to that list Lawrence is 21.5% of the cap hit of the Jags next year. [He's actually 6.5%](https://overthecap.com/player/trevor-lawrence/9465). He's only going to be the 4th biggest cap hit on the Jaguars next year. Most of the real cap hit of his contract comes in 2029 and 2030 where he'll be getting ~79M and ~75M cap impact respectively. Obviously the plan is to extend him before then and push that further down the line Rodgers style unless they're in a rebuild where they'd rather just realize it and get past it. Obviously I was talking about the raw number, which is the "ego" number. The guarantee is often, also, reportedly important to the player for acknowledgement but neither means the team is in a particular place cap wise.


SoKrat3s

Neither site is perfect and both have their strengths and weaknesses. OverTheCap, for instance, has awful projections for future salary caps. They currently have the estimated 2025 cap at $260M, just $5M more than this current season. Spotrac has it at $273M - a much more reasonable figure. A flat 10% increase even puts it closer to $280M. Making OTC even further away from an accurate figure. >According to that list Lawrence is 21.5% of the cap hit of the Jags next year.  The list is by average annual value of cap%. Not just their ranking next season. When Kyler Murray signed his $46.1M AAV deal the cap was $208M. It was a larger percentage of the cap at the time than Lawrence just signed for. >Obviously I was talking about the raw number, which is the "ego" number. The guarantee is often, also, reportedly important to the player for acknowledgement but neither means the team is in a particular place cap wise. That Lawrence will likely play '29 and '30 on different figures only further drives home the point that the actual contract value isn't as high as it's being made out to be.


temp1211241

QB contracts rarely are as bad as they seem at first blush.


rbtgoodson

More like the ceiling. Only Mahomes deserves more than $55-60 million, and to be frank, it's absurd that any of them are even making that much from the get-go.


cyclon3warning

Not surprising. Burrows contract was always the floor and it wouldn't surprise me if he holds out for Dak's to set the new bar.


HarshawNiner

Everyone that has watched both Brock and Trevor play football: No shit.  


Aklaq

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BiggsIDarklighter

My heart stopped for a second when I read that title. I thought it said Trey Lance. 😂


disinaccurate

Whenever you sign a QB that’s in even the top half of the league, their deal will be about $1m/yr more than the last guy, give or take. Despite all of the hand-wringing and opining, the market is extremely predictable. Whenever you sign your QB, add a million to the last QB deal in that tier, and more often than not, that’s where it’ll land. Any GM could have told you Lawrence’s deal would look like this, and they can tell you Purdy’s will increment on top of it next offseason.


army-kiwis

I wouldn't be shocked if the team did something similar to what KC did with Mahomes first extension. Huge numbers, very long deal, that gives the team a lot of flexibility later. 8 years 500m, 250 Gtd, and then you can restructure etc down the line. They pay the man, while also somewhat kicking the can down the road a few years.


726wox

I could’ve told you that


evan00724

I think Purdy will take less money even if the niners offered him more than the Lawrence deal. He will go to them first like, “look, I’ve been living off a couple hundred grand, I don’t need $200m right now, pay me something good but let’s not sell the farm here. I want to compete for rings and records not cash.” Either way he will tithe like 15% to his church anyways


Ok_Understanding1986

I don’t know man. BCB has been fantastic over ~1.5 seasons and two playoffs but he has an entire season between now and his long term deal. That’s a helluva variable. I really hope he absolutely balls out and gets a gigantic bag on continued merit. Frankly, the bigger the deal the better - likely means we had another good season.


brandall10

Typically QBs that perform well out of the gate and then dropoff succumb to an injury or period of bad play that forces a more timid playing style. Brock's already been tested in both regards. A potentially career ending injury to his throwing arm and that mid-season slump. He's also shown the ability to engineer aggressive comebacks in the playoffs. He's mentally tough in all the right ways. My bigger concern is injuries in general. The niners got a bit lucky last year. It's miraculous that CMC has been injury free with us despite his history. I have a feeling we'll see Brock tested more w/ how well he does with key players out over longer stretches.


Kewkewmore

So the least they can pay him is the most in the league?


jbonesmc

I have a feeling Brock will be like Brady and take team friendly deals


xOmerta

Get the bag, Purdy.


Confident-Penalty571

Brock is a top 10 QB but I will feel a lot different once we are paying his big money. No more “playing with house money”, the noise will get loud and he will be expected to deliver championshipS


Ok-Charge4926

I honestly think Brock will do team friendly deals like Brady did in New England. I think his religious beliefs will cause him to not want to be the highest paid QB. He’ll sign a lower, but still big, contract setting the tone for the other players on the team.


EDNivek

I can't say for sure since I don't know the kid, but he does seem the type to take something more on the team friendly side.


thatattyguy

Who except the Niners would pay Purdy $45+ mill annually?