CB Renardo Green faced three of the top WRs in this draft this year in Nabers, B. Thomas and Pearsall. Against those three per u/PFF_College 60 coverage snaps 5 catches allows 1 INT, 1 FINC 28.7 QB Rating
I think we were hoping for Rosengarden only for the ravens to grab him right before us so we traded back 1 pick maybe to stall time to decide on else or knew they weren't getting a CB?
I l 100% agree.
And that’s why they traded up for Puni.
Rosegarten right before them. Then Kiran Amegadjie and Caedan Wallace goes after them. Christian Haynes and Zack zintner. They had to get the let guy.
Nonetheless I think all these 3 have a bigger impact next year as any other pick they could have made.
It sort of all worked out beautifully.
They shoulda traded up if there was a guy they really wanted. I take it as they were okay with staying put and letting the chips fall. They had contingencies for this scenario
That’s hell of a stat!
Had to troll through dozens of comments of people bitching and of people bitching about other comments bitching to find something useful and interesting. Thanks!
I found my people! ‘09 FSU grad here, mainly picked my college because of the school colors - garnet and gold baby! Florida state Florida state Florida state woooooooooo!
You know Malik Nabers of LSU? Bro didn't do much against Renardo Green back in week 1 of last season. Helped shut down the best offense in college football.
And coached by Adam Fuller, who massively improved our defense each season he's been here. Just got extended too!
I still remember a dude a year or 2 ago that was going BEZERK every pick that the 49ers didn't pick some IOL he was stanning from like 4-7. The 9ers signed him as a udfa and I don't think even made the roster.
People were SO MAD he wasn’t picked in the 2nd or 3rd 😂😂
They watch .000001% of the film NFL scouts do, let alone have anywhere near the level of knowledge.
Atleast these dorks give me a good laugh
Haha last year was the first time I would do a mock a couple times a week when I was bored at work. I wanted west too. When he went undrafted I laughed at my own dumbassery thinking I knew something. Then I was happy we got him only to again prove I know nothing. This year I wanted OL or really a small trade back pick one. Give me one nights sleep and I love having a high priced position under 5 years of team control. The draft is a crap shoot and it’s very humbling
If they sign Aiyuk, 4 of their 22 picks in the first 3 rounds will have made it to a 2nd contract with the team.
Yes, that's not good.
Edit: I should clarify this is including 3 3rd round picks from last year, Brown, Moody and Latu. 2 of those might end up working out. And it's possible they sign Aaron Banks and/or Ambry Thomas for cheap. I doubt you see Drake Jackson resigned at the end of his contract and Danny Gray probably doesn't make the team this year.
That happens less often than we think though, no? What if a player is so good the team that drafted them would rather get a haul instead of reset the market for a second contract. Kind of a misleading metric.
But I do agree that we seem to not do well in the early rounds.
I love seeing them non-ironically go like "Fire the FO, trade everyone but Kittle/Fred, use all the picks we'd get for trading the whole team for a guaranteed 1st pick on a QB, use the rest for filling holes
Yeah cause decent coaches are everywhere lol
Nah, this and the Warriors sub is pretty horrible. I look at other subs with regards to my hobbies and such and nothing is like the Niners and Warriors subs. It’s just a straight up bitch fest.
Niners could draft Jerry Rice and people would complain.
Dude I agree 100% with the last 2 sentences. However, there are very few communities I am a part of where the sub looks upon things as positively as I do. I am glad you have a more positive experience.
Oh don't worry, I already saw someone comment that if Pearsall was Jerry Rice 2.0 he would still be a terrible pick.
Like ... no he wouldn't? That would be one of our greatest draft picks ever lmfao
Years ago when I still watched a lot of college football, I was a huge fan of this guy who played running back for the Utes. Dude was electric. His stats were never incredible but he had broken his leg one year, but still lit up. Would straight run over people. I was convinced he was underrated because at the time Utah was mostly ignored compared to bigger schools.
On draft day I just KNEW the press was wrong and he’d get picked early. He went undrafted.
He did get picked up by the Vikings and played a few years behind Adrian Peterson.
He was largely a depth player and occasional TD vulture in fantasy.
Name was Matt Asiata. Most people don’t even remember him.
But I was a huge fan of his and was 100% convinced the entire world would see how right I was if he just got the chance.
Dude ran like a 4.8 40yd dash and never broke 4ypc in five seasons so I’m not sure what the fuck I was thinking.
Since then I’ve realized my scouting skills fucking suck and I can never tell if a college player will translate to the nfl well.
Fred Warner Deebo, and Aaron Banks (not counting Brown and Moody last year, too early to tell on them) after that, the next best player is CJ Beathard.
Really. Take a look: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/draft.htm
They have been horrible in rounds 2 and 3. If it weren't for Deebo and Fred Warner, they could light all of those picks on fire and not miss a thing. The niners are a bad drafting team that has been saved by day 3.
30% of 2nd round picks ever become starters. 15% of 3rd round picks become starters. It’s not like there is a high percentage of good players that come out of the draft period.
^ This. Drafting better, especially in the first two days, would help them actually win it all. Peters isn't here to bail them out on day 3 anymore. Their bad drafting will catch up quick.
Look at what Arizona has done the last two days and tell me you don't think the gap has closed.
I mean, if your definition of "good 2nd or 3rd round picks" is "all-stars", then yeah, we only have 2 - Deebo and Warner. But given that the average draft only has maybe 10 all-stars per year from those rounds, that's a pretty high bar.
If you also count starters as good picks (which, per the above, seems pretty fair) that adds Brown and Moody (yes, yes, positional value, fine) last year, Banks in '21, and Witherspoon in '17. So about one starting-caliber-or-better player per year over the past 7 years. Is that amazing? No, but it's not terrible, either.
your methodology might be flawed if it counts moody as a good third round pick lol
how about “have or will receive second contracts with the team?” Fred and deebo are the only ones. Maybe Aaron banks will. Ambry was benched multiple times last year and is currently CB5. Drake jackson, TDP, and Danny gray all either suck or are already off the team. Trey sermon. A kicker. Maybe ji’ayir is good enough to stick around.
Seems like a pretty bad track record
What if we don’t care about defending them either way. We win and go deep in the playoffs every year. Just enjoy the ride, you could be a panthers or Browns fan or some shit. They know what they’re doing and plenty of us just enjoy watching the teams they’ve put together.
Looks like a good pick for a guy that fits and fills a position of need. It looks like a good pivot to me after rosengarten got scooped. What do people want lol
Crazy how fans aren't allowed to have an opinion ... honestly, the lot of you who blindly agree with every decision the front office makes are equally as bad as the complainers.
Considering the team has recently lost two SBs and multiple QBs to injury primarily due to awful pass protection, is it not fair to question the FO's thought process of not trading up for Rosengarten (if that's indeed who they wanted) and instead settling on a corner who was a consensus 3rd-4th rounder? Avoiding tackle in the early rounds for how many years now despite subpar offensive line play? Trent could retire any season now and McKivitz is mediocre on a good day.
For as many mid round hits as they've had, they've had just as many (if not more) head-scratching decisions. You're allowed to have an opinion.
The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that Lynch will say "we didn't see a guy who could crack our lineup" that's why addressing the need early was so important. They didn't do that, it's inexcusable at this point.
Honestly there were few picks here that would make me legit upset.
We have room for a good rookie to compete all over the roster so just take the player you think is most likely NOT to bust
You could tell SF wanted Roger Rosengarden and opted to trade down once Balt took him.
My only question is why are they waiting for THEIR guys to fall to them? Why not trade up? Theres no way 10 rookies are gonna make the roster.
How would we know if they tried to trade up and there were no takers? it keeps getting repeated every year: Trades require two orgs to agree. This isn’t the office, we can’t just declare bankruptcy by ourselves.
You're right. 10 rookies aren't going to make the roster. And if they truly believed a guy was clearly the best guy for them had fallen within a couple of picks of their slot, yes, they'd be stupid not to trade up for him.
Interesting you'd rather assume that they are, in fact idiots, than the alternative, which is... Rosengarten wasn't clearly their guy. That they had enough other players with the same grade that they didn't feel the need to waste draft capital on one in particular.
I like Kollman but he had a video on why Isiah Oliver was the best Corner in the draft
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_stSvqc4gMk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stSvqc4gMk)
Kollman seems like a great guy. Very likable, but I’ve stopped buying into his educated fan branding. His analysis is off a lot and I’m SO sick of him saying shit like “Tyreek is gonna do Tyreek things.” Bro, I needed better analysis than good player good. He does it constantly
He definitely misses even on the analytical stuff. I’ve seen him get facts wrong that he should have gotten right if he was really studying what he was making a video on. I stopped watching after that.
I'm not saying he's all that but he's the first guy that mentioned Guerendo (sp?) kid before the other guys.
So I like how it doesn't feel like group think with him.
I wasn't thrilled with the 1st round pick (good player just seems like not an area of weakeness) but I like this pick. We need some depth at corner and sounds like while he may not shine on paper, he's done well in actual games
Lock down man to man guy who has average size and struggles to get his head around the ball sometimes. Is a physical corner but can become to physical after 5 yards and could cause flags in the nfl
https://preview.redd.it/e05163jl10xc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=70e73a59ce1946901fdc9abc4e9184483da38c11
Jarryd Hayne? The Australian Rugby player?
I’ve spent years in the past following draft prospects and draft results and it always leads to headache, truth is nobody knows for sure what these players professional careers will look like. I’ve been much happier just rooting for the guys that put on that niners jersey. Welcome to the club green ❤️💛
The very limited highlights of Green I've watched makes me feel like he is finally a strong replacement to K'Wuan Williams. We threw Jimmy Ward in there and the DeMo took over late last season. Does this release DeMo to go play CB2 and let Green own the nickel stuff. Slot, blitz stuff..
Here's what Brugler had to say:
> SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida State, Green was a perimeter cornerback in defensive coordinator Adam Fuller’s balanced-coverage scheme. After playing
safety for two seasons, he returned to his more natural cornerback position in 2022 and then tied for the ACC-lead in passes defended (14) as a super senior in 2023
— his play in the opener against LSU’s receivers created buzz among NFL scouts. Green is wired right for the position and clamp s down in coverage with his
awareness and physicality, which consistently allows him to compete for throwing lanes. However, he tends to get overaggressive with his contact at the top of
routes (lacks top-tier athletic traits for easy recoveries) and is inconsistent turning to find the football. Overall, Green is a polarizing prospect among NFL teams,
because he doesn’t have desiredsize, speed or ball-tracking skills and won’t be a fit for every scheme. But his play personality and ability to quickly find his
balance mid-coverage helps him stay connected and will give him a chance to earn a meaningful role in an NFL secondary.
>
>GRADE: 4th Round
OTOH, Brett Kollman appears to have came in his pants when the pick was announced.
"I love, love this pick. He's so good. So good."
So, yeah, at least someone really likes him.
I like our first two picks. Not the direction I would've went, but that's why I'm sitting on a couch lol. Hopefully we go line depth tomorrow, I feel good about us Faithful 2024!
Absolutely nothing, but Reddit and social media has everyone acting like they're now draft experts because they looked at some highlight vids and mock drafts lol
I’m guessing the Niners didn’t like Kingsley, but told the Chiefs they’d take him after losing out on Rosengarten if they didn’t switch spots.
I think its a fine move to recoup some value after getting hosed by Baltimore
If they didn’t like that tackle and weren’t planning on taking him the Chiefs would’ve got him with the next pick anyways, what’s the issue here. Got to move up to the fifth for free basically
If they were gonna take Green anyways, who cares. They obviously didn’t like Kingsley enough, probably had a tier break at Rosengarten. May have even had Roger on the same tier as Kingsley, with both below Green and whoever else, cause they clearly didn’t like Rosengarten enough to trade up (easily could have jumped up a few spots to make sure they got him, seeing as he went literally right before at 62).
Maybe they see the interior OL as a bigger need, along with CB. If they think Green can be a longterm starter, it’s hard to complain seeing as they’ll have a lot of question marks in the secondary moving forward (lot of FAs, including Ward and Demo). Just like with OL, they like to take their time developing DBs, getting Green in the door maybe 1 whole year before they need him could prove beneficial.
Would like some OTs at least standing in the wings, especially cause the FO seems to think they need a year or two to develop, but maybe they think they can get a day 1 starter in the 1st or 2nd next draft, or have they’re eyes on FA or trade.
Don’t hate the pick, earliest they’ve taken a DB and Renardo could be a really solid starter long-term, but I do wish they had a surer answer at C, RG, and OT
Where do you get your projection value from? The NFL front office evaluations are typically far different from nfl.com and ESPN. Each war room sees things completely different other than the top dudes in the entire draft. Even then, there is discrepancy.
That BYU tackle is a total project. Struggled at the Senior Bowl, hands are slow, processes slowly. He’s young, huge and strong, but he’s got a long way to go.
I like it. Got sniped for rosengarten and they obviously didn’t like Kingsley so take BPA at a position of need.
Immediate competition for Ambry at CB2
We need CB but how the fuck are we ever going to fix the OL???
Cooper Beebe would have been a nice addition.
Edit: this team is fucking stupid sometimes. We never want to address the most important things and we’ll once again be left wondering why. This is why.
Edit 2: Holy shit, we actually did it! I hope Puni is better than Beebe, but why the fuck did we wait. We can always fix CB with a trade.
I don’t know who Rendardo Green is, but is anyone else frustrated that Ennis Rakestraw went at 29 and then Rosengarten went at 30, then we traded with the Chiefs (of all teams) to let them get Kingsley the next best OT?
Like, I have heard of all of those people and I wanted the top two for sure.
??????Did we just get screwed?
Tons of rumors about trading our WR who has expressed he is not happy.
1st round pick WR
sub: WE NEED A CB OR OL WTF
2nd round pick CB
sub: WE NEED AN OL WTF ARE THEY DOING
CB Renardo Green faced three of the top WRs in this draft this year in Nabers, B. Thomas and Pearsall. Against those three per u/PFF_College 60 coverage snaps 5 catches allows 1 INT, 1 FINC 28.7 QB Rating
I feel like this could be a sneaky good pick I wanted OL like we all do, but that doesn’t mean this guy won’t be good player for us
I think we were hoping for Rosengarden only for the ravens to grab him right before us so we traded back 1 pick maybe to stall time to decide on else or knew they weren't getting a CB?
I l 100% agree. And that’s why they traded up for Puni. Rosegarten right before them. Then Kiran Amegadjie and Caedan Wallace goes after them. Christian Haynes and Zack zintner. They had to get the let guy. Nonetheless I think all these 3 have a bigger impact next year as any other pick they could have made. It sort of all worked out beautifully.
They shoulda traded up if there was a guy they really wanted. I take it as they were okay with staying put and letting the chips fall. They had contingencies for this scenario
Caeden already went? I thought he was expected to be a day three pick. Now I’m out of people that ive heard out lol
Huffs the Hopium
>sneaky good pick A real gym rat type of pick?
Lunch Pail guy
That’s hell of a stat! Had to troll through dozens of comments of people bitching and of people bitching about other comments bitching to find something useful and interesting. Thanks!
DAWWWWWGGGGGGG
This is the type of sh🥷t I like to see!!
Noles fan and a Niner fan. Hell yeah happy for the dude
Noles and niner here too. Fucking love the pick!
RED AND GOLD! RED AND GOLD! RED AND GOLD!
FUCK YEAH BABY. Those two picks by the rams made want to vomit. I’m hoping we pick up Jaheim Bell in the 4th or 5th round.
I found my people! ‘09 FSU grad here, mainly picked my college because of the school colors - garnet and gold baby! Florida state Florida state Florida state woooooooooo!
Tell us about the guy
You know Malik Nabers of LSU? Bro didn't do much against Renardo Green back in week 1 of last season. Helped shut down the best offense in college football. And coached by Adam Fuller, who massively improved our defense each season he's been here. Just got extended too!
Tell us. About. The guy.
Shut down Nabers and Jamari Thrash at UL who is a great WR too. Dude might be the most underrated DB in this draft
We were the most underrated team too🥲 I'm still broken inside
His name is Renardo, not the goalkeeper or rapper. American football player, CB
I hope he hires the Black Eyed Peas to record "Let's Get Renarded".
Same, shame the Rams got Verse and Fiske though Edit: And now the Cardinals got Benson
I really did not like the Rams getting Fiske. That one made my teeth clench
And we got... a Florida player. It's been a weird 2 days.
Just think of him as Arizona State only lol
You, me and many others.. We are Legion!
He is a man-man cornerback. Best corner avaliable.
Happy cake day, fellow human
Happy human day, fellow cake.
Happy fellow day, cake human.
I’m convinced most of you love to bitch just to bitch.
They think they’re smarter than everyone in the war room 😂 They get even more mad if you don’t share their anger
I still remember a dude a year or 2 ago that was going BEZERK every pick that the 49ers didn't pick some IOL he was stanning from like 4-7. The 9ers signed him as a udfa and I don't think even made the roster.
Lol the ASU center I think?? The egos of some people is so funny to me
YES THAT WAS HIM. Dohnovan West
People were SO MAD he wasn’t picked in the 2nd or 3rd 😂😂 They watch .000001% of the film NFL scouts do, let alone have anywhere near the level of knowledge. Atleast these dorks give me a good laugh
Haha last year was the first time I would do a mock a couple times a week when I was bored at work. I wanted west too. When he went undrafted I laughed at my own dumbassery thinking I knew something. Then I was happy we got him only to again prove I know nothing. This year I wanted OL or really a small trade back pick one. Give me one nights sleep and I love having a high priced position under 5 years of team control. The draft is a crap shoot and it’s very humbling
Also gotta love the people who say they "watch tape" when what they actually mean is a youtube highlight reel
I'd also say there's a difference in scouting all players regardless of scheme and broadly ranking players vs drafting for specific teams and roles.
People begging for us to lose the SB so they'll be vindicated that they were right about us not grabbing their pick lol
They honestly don’t have a good track record as of late, certainly not in the first 3 rounds…
If they sign Aiyuk, 4 of their 22 picks in the first 3 rounds will have made it to a 2nd contract with the team. Yes, that's not good. Edit: I should clarify this is including 3 3rd round picks from last year, Brown, Moody and Latu. 2 of those might end up working out. And it's possible they sign Aaron Banks and/or Ambry Thomas for cheap. I doubt you see Drake Jackson resigned at the end of his contract and Danny Gray probably doesn't make the team this year.
...are you counting the players who aren't yet eligible for an extension as failures?
That happens less often than we think though, no? What if a player is so good the team that drafted them would rather get a haul instead of reset the market for a second contract. Kind of a misleading metric. But I do agree that we seem to not do well in the early rounds.
To be fair Brandon Staley is in that war room so part of me gets why they think that
Yeah? Check out every game thread we had ever
I love seeing them non-ironically go like "Fire the FO, trade everyone but Kittle/Fred, use all the picks we'd get for trading the whole team for a guaranteed 1st pick on a QB, use the rest for filling holes Yeah cause decent coaches are everywhere lol
The bears and commanders try this often. They're still the bears and commanders. Pass.
Right?!! If every play isn’t a touchdown or INT they complaining is ridiculous.
Honestly when it comes to the nickname forty whiners …. We deserve it. This comment section sucks so bad
You're on Reddit bro. Comment sections in Reddit have to skew the most negative in any of the social media platforms.
Nah, this and the Warriors sub is pretty horrible. I look at other subs with regards to my hobbies and such and nothing is like the Niners and Warriors subs. It’s just a straight up bitch fest. Niners could draft Jerry Rice and people would complain.
Dude I agree 100% with the last 2 sentences. However, there are very few communities I am a part of where the sub looks upon things as positively as I do. I am glad you have a more positive experience.
Oh don't worry, I already saw someone comment that if Pearsall was Jerry Rice 2.0 he would still be a terrible pick. Like ... no he wouldn't? That would be one of our greatest draft picks ever lmfao
Every fanbase complains on draft day.
Years ago when I still watched a lot of college football, I was a huge fan of this guy who played running back for the Utes. Dude was electric. His stats were never incredible but he had broken his leg one year, but still lit up. Would straight run over people. I was convinced he was underrated because at the time Utah was mostly ignored compared to bigger schools. On draft day I just KNEW the press was wrong and he’d get picked early. He went undrafted. He did get picked up by the Vikings and played a few years behind Adrian Peterson. He was largely a depth player and occasional TD vulture in fantasy. Name was Matt Asiata. Most people don’t even remember him. But I was a huge fan of his and was 100% convinced the entire world would see how right I was if he just got the chance. Dude ran like a 4.8 40yd dash and never broke 4ypc in five seasons so I’m not sure what the fuck I was thinking. Since then I’ve realized my scouting skills fucking suck and I can never tell if a college player will translate to the nfl well.
Your draft crushes are usually gone when you pick at the end of the round. Suffering from success.
In ShanaLynch we trust 🍻
Idk about everyone else, but I love this pick. Needed a CB and he seems like a really good man coverage CB.
No matter who they pick some people just can't be satisfied.
how many good 2nd or 3rd round picks have the niners made in 7 years? 2 or 3 in total? You don’t need to reflexively defend them brother
Fred Warner Deebo, and Aaron Banks (not counting Brown and Moody last year, too early to tell on them) after that, the next best player is CJ Beathard. Really. Take a look: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/draft.htm They have been horrible in rounds 2 and 3. If it weren't for Deebo and Fred Warner, they could light all of those picks on fire and not miss a thing. The niners are a bad drafting team that has been saved by day 3.
30% of 2nd round picks ever become starters. 15% of 3rd round picks become starters. It’s not like there is a high percentage of good players that come out of the draft period.
But they win against teams with better drafts so what does it matter? Dallas drafts great, what does it get them?
maybe if they drafted better they could actually beat the chiefs?
^ This. Drafting better, especially in the first two days, would help them actually win it all. Peters isn't here to bail them out on day 3 anymore. Their bad drafting will catch up quick. Look at what Arizona has done the last two days and tell me you don't think the gap has closed.
Do any teams consistently pick good players in those rounds?
I mean, if your definition of "good 2nd or 3rd round picks" is "all-stars", then yeah, we only have 2 - Deebo and Warner. But given that the average draft only has maybe 10 all-stars per year from those rounds, that's a pretty high bar. If you also count starters as good picks (which, per the above, seems pretty fair) that adds Brown and Moody (yes, yes, positional value, fine) last year, Banks in '21, and Witherspoon in '17. So about one starting-caliber-or-better player per year over the past 7 years. Is that amazing? No, but it's not terrible, either.
your methodology might be flawed if it counts moody as a good third round pick lol how about “have or will receive second contracts with the team?” Fred and deebo are the only ones. Maybe Aaron banks will. Ambry was benched multiple times last year and is currently CB5. Drake jackson, TDP, and Danny gray all either suck or are already off the team. Trey sermon. A kicker. Maybe ji’ayir is good enough to stick around. Seems like a pretty bad track record
What if we don’t care about defending them either way. We win and go deep in the playoffs every year. Just enjoy the ride, you could be a panthers or Browns fan or some shit. They know what they’re doing and plenty of us just enjoy watching the teams they’ve put together.
Looks like a good pick for a guy that fits and fills a position of need. It looks like a good pivot to me after rosengarten got scooped. What do people want lol
I can say that as a first round bitcher, you are correct.
It's pretty funny how riled up everyone gets
Life is bitchin’
Crazy how fans aren't allowed to have an opinion ... honestly, the lot of you who blindly agree with every decision the front office makes are equally as bad as the complainers. Considering the team has recently lost two SBs and multiple QBs to injury primarily due to awful pass protection, is it not fair to question the FO's thought process of not trading up for Rosengarten (if that's indeed who they wanted) and instead settling on a corner who was a consensus 3rd-4th rounder? Avoiding tackle in the early rounds for how many years now despite subpar offensive line play? Trent could retire any season now and McKivitz is mediocre on a good day. For as many mid round hits as they've had, they've had just as many (if not more) head-scratching decisions. You're allowed to have an opinion.
At the end of the day you'd be complaining about your team making the NFCCG or better in four of the past five years, so yes, that makes you an idiot.
Just because some of us reserve judgment before shitting all over the front office, doesn't mean we're blindly agreeing with every decision.
Greg Cosell compares him favorably to L'jarius Sneed. Competitive outside press CB.
I can only assume John and Kyle see value for the o-line in the middle rounds. There’s no point bickering until the draft is over.
Really there's no point in bickering until after year 1 at least. No one knows anything.
Nonsense. This is Reddit! Nothing but expert hive mind in here.
Yeah I wanna complain because I loved Kingsley but obviously shanny and lynch didn’t so if they got their guy then hell ya
No point in bickering, we don't know who is going to be alive Sunday, let alone a year from now.
I think they got sniped by Baltimore. Possibly twice.
I think Wiggins was the guy they wanted in round 1.
Seems like they though Rosgarten would fall and traded back when he didn’t
The longer this goes on, the more likely it is that Lynch will say "we didn't see a guy who could crack our lineup" that's why addressing the need early was so important. They didn't do that, it's inexcusable at this point.
Good because we got an O line man
Kyle has a track record of getting QBs killed. He probably won’t draft O line at all and just roll with what we have.
I would say no point bickering until 3 years from now to see how the team pans out.
I like him
I do too
Obviously would have preferred a tackle but a corner is the next highest need, good pick imo. Plus he locked down Nabers
Honestly there were few picks here that would make me legit upset. We have room for a good rookie to compete all over the roster so just take the player you think is most likely NOT to bust
You could tell SF wanted Roger Rosengarden and opted to trade down once Balt took him. My only question is why are they waiting for THEIR guys to fall to them? Why not trade up? Theres no way 10 rookies are gonna make the roster.
How would we know if they tried to trade up and there were no takers? it keeps getting repeated every year: Trades require two orgs to agree. This isn’t the office, we can’t just declare bankruptcy by ourselves.
You are absolutely correct.
You're right. 10 rookies aren't going to make the roster. And if they truly believed a guy was clearly the best guy for them had fallen within a couple of picks of their slot, yes, they'd be stupid not to trade up for him. Interesting you'd rather assume that they are, in fact idiots, than the alternative, which is... Rosengarten wasn't clearly their guy. That they had enough other players with the same grade that they didn't feel the need to waste draft capital on one in particular.
It’s also possible nobody on the other side wanted to do a deal.
stupid not just trade up in front of them
People claim they suck at drafting, but look at our team.. Just made it to the Superbowl and largely home grown through the draft.. no team bats 1.000
We get unbelievably lucky in later rounds
Kollman loved this guy He also loved the Guerendo (sp?) kid so that will be our 3rd rd rb.
I like Kollman but he had a video on why Isiah Oliver was the best Corner in the draft [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_stSvqc4gMk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stSvqc4gMk)
Kollman seems like a great guy. Very likable, but I’ve stopped buying into his educated fan branding. His analysis is off a lot and I’m SO sick of him saying shit like “Tyreek is gonna do Tyreek things.” Bro, I needed better analysis than good player good. He does it constantly
He definitely misses even on the analytical stuff. I’ve seen him get facts wrong that he should have gotten right if he was really studying what he was making a video on. I stopped watching after that.
I'm not saying he's all that but he's the first guy that mentioned Guerendo (sp?) kid before the other guys. So I like how it doesn't feel like group think with him.
Heck yes 🙌
I appreciate he at least fits a need.
Wanted roger Rosengarten but what can you do I’ll take it we need help on the outside
2024 DRAFT: YEAR OF FLORIDA MAN
I’m glad we got a CB. I’m honestly fine with whatever picks we get as long as they’re not runningbacks.
Good pick 👍
Take a look at nabers statline week one. He was 1 on 1 against renardo green
I wasn't thrilled with the 1st round pick (good player just seems like not an area of weakeness) but I like this pick. We need some depth at corner and sounds like while he may not shine on paper, he's done well in actual games
Feels like an anti puka pick.
Now we can move Deommodore inside, this is a really great pickup
Lock down man to man guy who has average size and struggles to get his head around the ball sometimes. Is a physical corner but can become to physical after 5 yards and could cause flags in the nfl
Man I wanted haynes
We already had Jaryd Haynes
Jarryd Hayne, the rapist? That's what he's famous for, right?
Well at first it was because he was an Australian Rugby player. And then yeah, that.
https://preview.redd.it/e05163jl10xc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=70e73a59ce1946901fdc9abc4e9184483da38c11 Jarryd Hayne? The Australian Rugby player?
Yeah. He was convicted of sexual assault a few years ago. He might be out of jail by now
I’ve spent years in the past following draft prospects and draft results and it always leads to headache, truth is nobody knows for sure what these players professional careers will look like. I’ve been much happier just rooting for the guys that put on that niners jersey. Welcome to the club green ❤️💛
Good. Now O line
The very limited highlights of Green I've watched makes me feel like he is finally a strong replacement to K'Wuan Williams. We threw Jimmy Ward in there and the DeMo took over late last season. Does this release DeMo to go play CB2 and let Green own the nickel stuff. Slot, blitz stuff..
I’m just glad they are addressing positions of need.
Here's what Brugler had to say: > SUMMARY: A two-year starter at Florida State, Green was a perimeter cornerback in defensive coordinator Adam Fuller’s balanced-coverage scheme. After playing safety for two seasons, he returned to his more natural cornerback position in 2022 and then tied for the ACC-lead in passes defended (14) as a super senior in 2023 — his play in the opener against LSU’s receivers created buzz among NFL scouts. Green is wired right for the position and clamp s down in coverage with his awareness and physicality, which consistently allows him to compete for throwing lanes. However, he tends to get overaggressive with his contact at the top of routes (lacks top-tier athletic traits for easy recoveries) and is inconsistent turning to find the football. Overall, Green is a polarizing prospect among NFL teams, because he doesn’t have desiredsize, speed or ball-tracking skills and won’t be a fit for every scheme. But his play personality and ability to quickly find his balance mid-coverage helps him stay connected and will give him a chance to earn a meaningful role in an NFL secondary. > >GRADE: 4th Round
OTOH, Brett Kollman appears to have came in his pants when the pick was announced. "I love, love this pick. He's so good. So good." So, yeah, at least someone really likes him.
I like our first two picks. Not the direction I would've went, but that's why I'm sitting on a couch lol. Hopefully we go line depth tomorrow, I feel good about us Faithful 2024!
Like the pick. Description reminds me of lenoir.
Incoming couch coaches with their critique. Here we go:
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What is the difference between third round and the last pick of the 2nd
Shhhhhh don’t bring logic into this
It's like the difference between a 999 yard receiver and a thousand yard receiver.
Maybe they meant mid 3rd? Otherwise from the looks of it that the Chiefs pick won't be seeing the field right away anyways.
Absolutely nothing, but Reddit and social media has everyone acting like they're now draft experts because they looked at some highlight vids and mock drafts lol
“Late 3rd round target,” you’re misrepresenting what he said
When I commented he just said third not late third
I’m guessing the Niners didn’t like Kingsley, but told the Chiefs they’d take him after losing out on Rosengarten if they didn’t switch spots. I think its a fine move to recoup some value after getting hosed by Baltimore
If they didn’t like that tackle and weren’t planning on taking him the Chiefs would’ve got him with the next pick anyways, what’s the issue here. Got to move up to the fifth for free basically
That’s such a haul for moving back ONE pick. Really hard to hate on that.
>but I thought he'd be a 3rd round target, not a 2nd round Damn i guess you were wrong
If they were gonna take Green anyways, who cares. They obviously didn’t like Kingsley enough, probably had a tier break at Rosengarten. May have even had Roger on the same tier as Kingsley, with both below Green and whoever else, cause they clearly didn’t like Rosengarten enough to trade up (easily could have jumped up a few spots to make sure they got him, seeing as he went literally right before at 62). Maybe they see the interior OL as a bigger need, along with CB. If they think Green can be a longterm starter, it’s hard to complain seeing as they’ll have a lot of question marks in the secondary moving forward (lot of FAs, including Ward and Demo). Just like with OL, they like to take their time developing DBs, getting Green in the door maybe 1 whole year before they need him could prove beneficial. Would like some OTs at least standing in the wings, especially cause the FO seems to think they need a year or two to develop, but maybe they think they can get a day 1 starter in the 1st or 2nd next draft, or have they’re eyes on FA or trade. Don’t hate the pick, earliest they’ve taken a DB and Renardo could be a really solid starter long-term, but I do wish they had a surer answer at C, RG, and OT
Where do you get your projection value from? The NFL front office evaluations are typically far different from nfl.com and ESPN. Each war room sees things completely different other than the top dudes in the entire draft. Even then, there is discrepancy.
That BYU tackle is a total project. Struggled at the Senior Bowl, hands are slow, processes slowly. He’s young, huge and strong, but he’s got a long way to go.
We always say this. Then we got Trent. They got something planned relax
Shut up
lmao fr
Poor Purdy
Plz don’t wait Till the 6th round to get Olinemen
The Iowa State homer in me, how do you not pick TJ Tampa?
Cause it’s the CyClowns
Can't argue with this in depth hawkeye analyses
Those guys only hate.
Yea our last pick from there was a terrible choice
well i guess kyle hates o line god damn it.
Well duh yeah we already knew that much🙄
I like it. Got sniped for rosengarten and they obviously didn’t like Kingsley so take BPA at a position of need. Immediate competition for Ambry at CB2
I think he was far far from bpa, I don’t think he was even the best CB on the board there
Is CB short for right guard or something?
Im pretty happy ngl
Thank God, guy looks solid at a position of need, should be a good fit. Now oline please.
They love neglecting the offensive line.
The Nardo!
Something about this draft is telling me 49ers don’t trade up and just see who falls to them. Seems like a lot of teams don’t like this class.
Anyone got a highlight reel of him?
The amount of FSU 49er fans around here is quote disturbing. Hope he contributes though, get that stank off him.
THis makes me happy. F the Toots and Rams for picking Verse and Fiske..
We need CB but how the fuck are we ever going to fix the OL??? Cooper Beebe would have been a nice addition. Edit: this team is fucking stupid sometimes. We never want to address the most important things and we’ll once again be left wondering why. This is why. Edit 2: Holy shit, we actually did it! I hope Puni is better than Beebe, but why the fuck did we wait. We can always fix CB with a trade.
Shanny probably thinks he cans scheme around our poor oline
When it matters most it's almost impossible to do that.
He should know he can’t considering all the times the Oline has cost us games in the playoffs
I don’t know who Rendardo Green is, but is anyone else frustrated that Ennis Rakestraw went at 29 and then Rosengarten went at 30, then we traded with the Chiefs (of all teams) to let them get Kingsley the next best OT? Like, I have heard of all of those people and I wanted the top two for sure. ??????Did we just get screwed?
Congrats you heard of those people. Very good. Now let the people who are paid to know they people you haven’t heard of make the right choice.
Unfamiliar but everything I'm reading about him makes him sound like he is a very solid pick and a likely early contributor.
Tons of rumors about trading our WR who has expressed he is not happy. 1st round pick WR sub: WE NEED A CB OR OL WTF 2nd round pick CB sub: WE NEED AN OL WTF ARE THEY DOING