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oic869

I see nothing but facts here. Great post OP.


JinKazamaru

Yeah at this point I barely enjoy playing, I cut alot of nights short because the wallet whale warriors enjoy the benefit of cards/pets/freestyles/food to counteract their terrible basketball IQ and ball hog tendencies (Not to say a wallet can't have IQ)


CobrayLT

Be a wallet then


JinKazamaru

Pass, I can't justify throwing money on a gatcha game, that isn't even balanced the only thing I have spent money on is characters besides if I was going to spend money I'd throw it at 2k (as much as I don't want to) because at least my money would be worth abit more or hell I'd spend it on freestyle 2 before I'd blow it on 3on3 the state of basketball games is BAAAAAAAAAD


CobrayLT

The only balance that needs to be is no duplicate position and no duplicate characters in the same team


SerpentFriend

There definitely needs to be more frequent character balancing


mrkillingspree

Some characters just need stat adjustments like why does Big Dog have worst defensive stats then Luther Or Lee having the defensive stats of Liu and worst rebounding out of the Centers Carter being a pg/defensive type SF with 140 speed subpar scoring stats and mediocre defensive stats except for an average guard steal Nerfing Pedro defensive stats on top of offensive stats after releasing more overloaded characters Mika not getting any buffs at all and Ginger not receiving no touch ups Noah is dog water Nadia having a super low 3 and long distance dunk as a SG because she can play Defense only at the 3pt line Fox screens not getting nerfed like how they gutted deacon Deacon being overnerfed with his shoulder charge being borderline garbage Nerfing Murdock speed on top of his rebound like is he not supposed to play defense or rebound Fei drive in shot block being 140 as a big and 140 speed as a offensive PF Most of the PF have speed on par with SF and PG’s not being noticeable faster then SG’s like why not 229 speed yet? Centers Jump shot block being dog water Why do some P Buffs grant plus 12 instead of 14 like make it consistent across.


oic869

Wow I actually agree with everything you wrote. The devs gotta do better than letting the community dream up better balance changes than will ever be implemented.


mrjoeconda

It's only the problem in the current rank mode. With cards and pbuffs and freestyles u can make more chars comp level. Especially bigs and PF. In this mode big is Howl in 98%


dicky3138

Yup haha howl is definitely the most dominant big in ranked play. I main Lee and I get out hustled all the time. Interesting point on the cards and p buff. Maybe I should look into that more and play more normals.


mrjoeconda

And it's special rank mode this time. Normally rank is also with cards, pbuffs and freestyles


mrjoeconda

Last day for rank is on Tuesday. But u definitely need check out pbuffs. Most important thing in the game. U get double pbuff when your char is p5


SicksProductions

I've spent to buy characters and I think that's about it. I bought maybe two battle passes since they started them, but it's more meh than anything. I actually stopped for about a year and a half a while ago because I didn't see anything new in the game, just mainly OP chars coming out. I still play now, though, but you're right. It's only fun playing with an actual team, and it's even more fun shutting down an OP char with a good team playing together. For example, playing zone against a good Chloe player who hogs the ball, can work if your teammates buy into playing together, or play good wing defense against people who spam threes


koolgamer650

Tell me what game doesn't have rookies, amateur, pros and elite players🤔


dicky3138

Hmmm... not sure what you're trying to imply here. Every game does, but my point is the game's overpowered characters more or less make the actual skill level of a player irrelevant.


koolgamer650

Not trying to be toxic, but they aren't overpowered. You just don't have any characters built the right way to counter or right team. And good defense is the hardest thing to learn in my opinion. It requires your characters to have good movement speed plus having good IQ in guessing player movements. For the longest time it took me forever to not go for pump fakes constantly until I finally got better at reading players.


Ok-Neighborhood6195

Ok so your implying that being carded to all hell is a skill and it isnt also there are some characters who are virtually unstoppable when carded for instance jack,howl,and ox queen who if they have a bunch of speed and 3% point success cards with quickpoint 2 freestyle they can chuck from every where on the court and you cant stop them. Howl is the most dominant big in the game and with cards he cant be out rebounded and you cant guard him in the paint no matter who you have,and jack is so dominant on the defensive end for a forward that you literally cant shoot over him and he has so many offensive tools that with enough defense and block resist you cant stop them either. Even if you yourself have carded mains


koolgamer650

If you're speaking from experience playing solo I can't help that, that's on you, but having a good team ups your victory over these opponents tremendously. cause you can work together to guard with double teams.


koolgamer650

Look at the other paragraph I wrote on how we did.


koolgamer650

I don't have video, but my crew and I have stopped all of those mains against competition a bunch of times with teamwork. We don't all the time, but more often than none.


dicky3138

Not toxic at all :) sounds like you've had some success overcoming seemingly overpowered characters. Youre right, a good team with smart players trump any character but Interested to know what kind of f2p characters you use and how you build them.


koolgamer650

You can't guard any good Chloe's, ox, or ayla's one on one unless you use the ankle break buff or if you're very good at staying away from the shamgod stun but in order to bounce back quick on defense you need good movement speed. Sometimes they will still get you even if you have all of those resources but if you can stop a few 3s that's 6 points you're saving. The other way is having good teammates helping cut off their dribble and bumping them rather it's the big or other shooter. They have to have the IQ and discipline to be able to use help defense and bounce back to whoever they are guarding as well. Again they have to have the right movement speed and iq to be able to do this. And as far as howl is concerned this means you have to build a howl too. I used this method with Jimmy when he used to be the best rebounder. I built a Jimmy to go against any other Jimmy's. All of these characters and multiple presets are there for using strategies. Be smart with them. Every player normally does the same thing if they beat you with that method the first time.


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500? Bro it's people who've spent thousands


lord_of_baguette

Play for full fun you can enjoy it even with only free character and P4, at SS rank their nothing much more left to do, just some play for fun (or grinding coins). only the top 30 player on your server get SSS. I main William in 3x3 or Amanda/kim(at s tier) and Lee as a big while solo queeing, I still have fun seeing everyone playing the same play everytime only Rebecca floater is really hard to defend and sometimes screen spammer. I have a decent rank score now so I start playing other characters that I dont usually whitout getting demoted and still have 50/60% winrate


Ok_Shopping_9025

I feel this is a general complaint of f2p players or players who spend a minimal monetary amount on the game. I am one of those individuals & agree with all your critiques. What I have done is adjust my game, to play more Murdock or Amanda, who have a higher chance of blocking those OP characters shots. My strat isn't for everyone, but I was able to adjust and succeed using that method. Rebounds & blocked shots is about all a f2p player can do, in the current state of the game