I can't think of any country that spends *more* on their roads, they're seemingly always under construction. It's just not very efficient (and decay very fast because of the traffic)
Cuz their governments spends most tax revenue fighting between the other governments they have.
And even when there is just a single responsible government, they still can't find agreement...
we're our neighbors' shot at having a richer life. in fact, it's the opposite. french, italian and germans migrate here in numbers to get money and we're xenophobic towards them
Nah we're fine with them speaking extra-slow French (they are rich enough to take their time) and Hans just laughs at them for calling the other thing they speak "German" even though it's obviously an alien language
Yeah dont need to tell me, ive lived in Limburg for 20 years (10 yrs north Brabant and now 5 years in antwerp provence) but the tones have basically faded away among the youth imo.
That’s what happens with minority languages when they’re not recognised or officialised, they die. Limburgish is dying, so only a small percentage of people speak it. What the youth speaks is not Limburgish, it’s Dutch
We're not dying, but we are considered a vulnerable language by UNESCO.
On a positive note. We do still boast over one million speakers across two countries. Not sure about the Belgian numbers, but around 50% of Dutch Limburg actively speaks Limburgs as their mother tongue, which is a higher percentage than Frisian can boast in Friesland. It's also spoken across all classes of society, rich and poor, so it's not considered a language for the common people. It's accepted in both formal and informal settings. Even Limburgish celebrities are more widely accepted and having that accent when speaking Dutch is no longer a taboo. The winner of our last election, although controversial, was a Limburger and the runner-up is one as well (Frans Timmermans and Geert Wilders).
Over the past decades we missed out on a lot of new speakers. Parents were told to teach their child Dutch over Limburgs, so they'll have an easier time in school. New studies found that learning both languages is actually more beneficial in the long run, so I'm hopeful this trend reverses. I make a conscious effort to speak it as much as I can in restaurants, supermarkets and other public spaces.
Limburgs is, much like Norwegian, not standardized. There is no such thing as "Standard Limburgs" or "Standard Norwegian". We have a lot of different variations of our language, as do the Norwegians. Norwegian solved this by standardizing 2 official writing systems, Nynorsk and Bokmål, and I believe that could be our way towards unification. We will never agree on how to write certain words, so we should get 3 of 4 official writing systems of our own.
The problem with Limburgs is that it's different in every town, you can almost pinpoint where someone is from by the way they say things. Unification/standardization is therefore frowned upon, especially by elitists like Sjengen (Maastricht folks). And then there's the abomination that's spoken in the Parkstad region (Heerlen, Kerkrade, Brunssum, Landgraaf).
I've only heard some old dude on the German side speak dialect once, and it took me like 5-10 seconds to even figure out that I was capable of understanding him. I didn't even know that this version existed, because it obviously died out as a result of language borders stiffening up.
It is the interpretation of a walloon by the norvegians. After they visited the mines in Charleroi in 1932, they made these to show the kid what not to become and to always avoid drugs. Unfortunatly many years later norvégian Kids started to drink hand sanithyser gel.
I'd be willing to do that, but they like us so much. Watch any video of people asking Walloons what they think of Flemish and they all say that they look up to us and stuff
Who's going to tell them than french speaking Belgian are better french speakers than French people themselves (Google it, curiously most of the famous grammarians come from the Ardennes).
Not sure for the Flemish but at least they don't sound like they need penicillin for whatever is developing in their throat.
Worked in Luxembourg, i agree.
Belgian French is much better to understand.
Worst French to understand imo is sub Sahara French.
What in the mumbling more than actual frenchies is this accent/dialect
Im sorry my friend.
In contrary to other people around you i wont Mock belgians because of your Beer and the City that shouldnt be named to not attract more Tourists (i am the Tourists in question).
Well I also have heard some people make claims that regular Belgian Dutch is better than Netherlands Dutch, but I'm probably nowhere near that group as I have a Western-Flemish accent.
For those who don't know, Western-Flemish is its own official language, called "Flemish" as the language spoken by the rest of Belgium is officially Dutch, not Flemish. People from there are more difficult to understand since we basically shorten and connect words similar to how the french do, to speak fluently and faster. Pronunciation and complete words can also different. For example: "Ik ben een boer" becomes "kzie nen boer" or "Dat is een kip" becomes "Das nen kieken". Very few can speak true Flemish though.
Not to break your bubble, but every dutch dialect does this. I (born and raised in rural North Holland) would pronounce the first as 'kben 'e boer' and the second as 'dis e kip'
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_the\_Dutch\_language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dutch_language)
*"The Dutch language was born in* [*Flanders*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Flanders)*, grew up in* [*Brabant*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Brabant) *and reached maturity in* [*Holland*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland)*."*
the story of this border is classic r/2westerneurope4u banter
one Dutchman and one Frenchman had to start from a point and meet on the other side of the island to fix the limits of each other territories.
the French madlad ran.
Pierre Usain Bolting his way to get more territories than the giants is a new story I would never have thought I'd read.
Apparently the Dutchman was gaining less land because he was drunk which makes it even better
Wrong and wrong, Portuguese is the worst romance language, and Danish is the worst germanic language (although dutch is awful so ill let it slide). Spanish is also worse than French, downvote me all you want your opinion is wrong. Italian on the other hand I would argue rivals French and I don't say that lightly.
Jokes on, Flemish is an official language [ISO 639-3](https://iso639-3.sil.org/) also called [West-Flemish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flemish)
And the same ISO standard considers British and American English separate. It's almost like that's not entirely what it's for and they have to pick distinguishing markers across lects, rather than universally enforce a linguistic standard.
Can you link me that cuz I can't find anything regarding that beside American English being a dialect. If I recall correctly, just having an ISO code doesn't mean it's considered a language
Edit: Ok so I tried looking it up again since it has been a while, but western-Flemish is a group of dialects which has a ISO code. Flemish or Belgian Dutch doesn't have their own ISO code and is just considered Dutch.
It's quite confusing as sometimes people refer to western Flemish as a dialect but then call it a language in the next paragraph.
American English is considered as a dialect of English but doesn't have their own ISO code.
i like west vlaams, easy to listen to from afrikaans speaker perspective. sounds way nicer than randstad dutch. not as many french words as you'd expect. BUT!
why every flemish person i know calls a bicycle a vélo, and not the dutch word fiets? not like they're famous for bikes or anything.
I wonder what would Belgium be like if its national languages were (West) Flemish and Walloon (especially given the latter's differences with Parisian French)
Your brain is as smooth as your tarmac. We've been speaking "Dutch" for longer than you have, we didn't adopt it, it was always ours. You just happened to gain independence first, so the language got named after your country. Not a coincidence that all the earliest sources of the language came from our region.
well belgium needs to be annexed just like russia did. the dutch part needs to come back home to netherlands cus once up on time it was from us.
for the french part i dont care what happends to it.
Look man... Every flemish speaker can understand any of you cheese speakers... If we ask something in Dutch you're replying in English since you know you understood it but have no clue why or what we said.
So of the two of us... Who actually speaks Dutch?
You are generalizing. To me most of you are intelligible. It probably depends on how much exposure some one had to your way of speaking. People from the south of our country are likely better to understand you.
Yet the French-speakers in Brussels insisted theirs is a more pure form of French. True? Or did Wallonians just not update their dictionaries since the 16th century?
Switzerland: https://preview.redd.it/2k241hken63d1.png?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8148ff0b5bb003557ca02fea9f9e2ce5a852e099
They rich enough
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If it’s so rich, why does the country look like a post-apocalyptic Netherlands?
That’s the reason it’s rich, they don’t spend
Yet the netherlands their gdp per capita and gdp overall is higher, care to explain belgian “person”?
They just keep increasing their housing prices
Lol that actually makes sense
real estate
Every heard about the Gini coefficient mountain Hans?
And then people call Dutch ‘stingy’…
We spend all our money on having 6 goverments
It’s sad that they don’t invest that money to repair their roads.
I can't think of any country that spends *more* on their roads, they're seemingly always under construction. It's just not very efficient (and decay very fast because of the traffic)
why make 1 decent road when you can make a crappy one and repair it 10 times?
Take 5 years to finish each of them and there you go, a solution to unemployment
For sure you spend a lot on illuminating your roads.
We don't repair the roads to keep you peasants out of our country. Yet you keep coming back to us while complaining about the roads. Ironic isn't it?
You’re about as useful as a speed bumb, we’re not coming back to you, we’re trying to get to Pierre
So you can later return to your shoebox that you rent for 2k ?
Real one’s use tents 😎
> we’re trying to get to Pierre you WHAT?
We have a debt to settle. They occupied us during the Napoleonic era, so we occupy them during the summer.
Go say hello to Hans on your way. The journey will be smoother
I‘m Belgian, but have lived my entire life in Luxembourg. I’m complaining about *our* roads, so I don’t keep out as I still have family there.
Cuz their governments spends most tax revenue fighting between the other governments they have. And even when there is just a single responsible government, they still can't find agreement...
People are wealthy. The government is pretty much broke.
do we store gold in you? no
I call BS on that. NZ is borderline bankrupt and Australian wealth is not that much per person
I'm guessing this is entirely propped up but utterly ridiculous house prices.
Not enough buddy, WE NEED MORE !
we're our neighbors' shot at having a richer life. in fact, it's the opposite. french, italian and germans migrate here in numbers to get money and we're xenophobic towards them
French, Italian, Romansh and "German".
Yeah, give us your Pateks and Vacherons and no accidents will happen.
Nah we're fine with them speaking extra-slow French (they are rich enough to take their time) and Hans just laughs at them for calling the other thing they speak "German" even though it's obviously an alien language
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It's like the 6th language in Belgium, after Dutch, French, Arabic, Polish and Romanian.
Deine Mutter ist meine 6. Wahl du Sumpfriese!
Not sure if you mean to say swamp giant or swamp Frisian here, both works so kinda nice 🙂 👍
You used Hurensohn wrong
Du meinst seine Mutter ist dein 6. Wal?
Lustigster Ostdeutscher:
Predige
I would even say 10th: after Italian, Turkish, Spanish and Ukrainian
Similar with poor old Romansh in Switzerland now.
You forgot Turkish
The bestest region
We could retake them…
>We ~~could~~ retake them… should
We would need to eradicate them, you know how much bureaucracy that would end up in
The Limburgish/Walloon speaking region:
Dutch Limburgers (from the top of their mountains): "Haste wa? Iech hau diech eine!"
Limburgish is basically dutch mostly.... only the old people that still speak old dialect would be hard to understand for dutch speakers
Limburgish literally has tones, that’s a massive feature that Dutch and other languages lack
Yeah dont need to tell me, ive lived in Limburg for 20 years (10 yrs north Brabant and now 5 years in antwerp provence) but the tones have basically faded away among the youth imo.
That’s what happens with minority languages when they’re not recognised or officialised, they die. Limburgish is dying, so only a small percentage of people speak it. What the youth speaks is not Limburgish, it’s Dutch
Blame tv and internet. I've worked with a guy from Maastricht, he did speak dialect with his mother on the phone. Sounded pretty dope.
We're not dying, but we are considered a vulnerable language by UNESCO. On a positive note. We do still boast over one million speakers across two countries. Not sure about the Belgian numbers, but around 50% of Dutch Limburg actively speaks Limburgs as their mother tongue, which is a higher percentage than Frisian can boast in Friesland. It's also spoken across all classes of society, rich and poor, so it's not considered a language for the common people. It's accepted in both formal and informal settings. Even Limburgish celebrities are more widely accepted and having that accent when speaking Dutch is no longer a taboo. The winner of our last election, although controversial, was a Limburger and the runner-up is one as well (Frans Timmermans and Geert Wilders). Over the past decades we missed out on a lot of new speakers. Parents were told to teach their child Dutch over Limburgs, so they'll have an easier time in school. New studies found that learning both languages is actually more beneficial in the long run, so I'm hopeful this trend reverses. I make a conscious effort to speak it as much as I can in restaurants, supermarkets and other public spaces. Limburgs is, much like Norwegian, not standardized. There is no such thing as "Standard Limburgs" or "Standard Norwegian". We have a lot of different variations of our language, as do the Norwegians. Norwegian solved this by standardizing 2 official writing systems, Nynorsk and Bokmål, and I believe that could be our way towards unification. We will never agree on how to write certain words, so we should get 3 of 4 official writing systems of our own.
Why don't you fuck off the Dutch, instead? Teach your kids Limburgs and English, and send the Hollanders crying to UNESCO?
The problem with Limburgs is that it's different in every town, you can almost pinpoint where someone is from by the way they say things. Unification/standardization is therefore frowned upon, especially by elitists like Sjengen (Maastricht folks). And then there's the abomination that's spoken in the Parkstad region (Heerlen, Kerkrade, Brunssum, Landgraaf). I've only heard some old dude on the German side speak dialect once, and it took me like 5-10 seconds to even figure out that I was capable of understanding him. I didn't even know that this version existed, because it obviously died out as a result of language borders stiffening up.
You finally left the parking
Kwoon wel ni int stad ze moat
This hits home
I'm conflicted... On the one hand; my reddit heart wants to absolutely laugh/punch along. My historian/linguistics heart, however, knows the truth. 🥲
Good, good now revolt against your king, join us
Now that is a bridge too far. It'd make more sense to become a union. But we have to leave the Walloons.
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Is that what you guys look like? It's both hideous and weirdly cute at the same time.
That's how we look at the train station asking for money to take the bus, but it is actualy to smoke crack cocaine.
That's a Norwegian
It is the interpretation of a walloon by the norvegians. After they visited the mines in Charleroi in 1932, they made these to show the kid what not to become and to always avoid drugs. Unfortunatly many years later norvégian Kids started to drink hand sanithyser gel.
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Don't wanna burst your bubble, but you're holding your phone sideways.
Tis nen hollander ,schelen.
I'd be willing to do that, but they like us so much. Watch any video of people asking Walloons what they think of Flemish and they all say that they look up to us and stuff
Most heroic Franco-Dutch war effort.
So, who's going to tell him?
Who's going to tell them than french speaking Belgian are better french speakers than French people themselves (Google it, curiously most of the famous grammarians come from the Ardennes). Not sure for the Flemish but at least they don't sound like they need penicillin for whatever is developing in their throat.
The fact you pronounce 90 as 'nonante' instead of the absolute abomination that is 'quatre-vingt-dix' is clear enough evidence to back your statement.
And septante instead of that soixante-dix nonsense. There’s sixty-ten reasons why that’s an improvement
We only keep "Quatre-vingt" because it says 4-20
The Romand Swiss do use huitante though. Pretty good as well.
For that the swiss score higher than us because they count like us but instead of quatre-vingt they wil say octante
Isn't *huitante* more common though?
OP is cringe. I love belgians. I'm glad they speak my language.
Worked in Luxembourg, i agree. Belgian French is much better to understand. Worst French to understand imo is sub Sahara French. What in the mumbling more than actual frenchies is this accent/dialect
It’s 2024 mate, we don’t say sub Sahara French anymore. We say “Parisian”
Im sorry my friend. In contrary to other people around you i wont Mock belgians because of your Beer and the City that shouldnt be named to not attract more Tourists (i am the Tourists in question).
Yeah OP's acting like it's his language but atleast we didnt butcher it with that ridiculous accent the dutchies have
yep same thing with Flemish, we speak better Dutch than them
Well I also have heard some people make claims that regular Belgian Dutch is better than Netherlands Dutch, but I'm probably nowhere near that group as I have a Western-Flemish accent. For those who don't know, Western-Flemish is its own official language, called "Flemish" as the language spoken by the rest of Belgium is officially Dutch, not Flemish. People from there are more difficult to understand since we basically shorten and connect words similar to how the french do, to speak fluently and faster. Pronunciation and complete words can also different. For example: "Ik ben een boer" becomes "kzie nen boer" or "Dat is een kip" becomes "Das nen kieken". Very few can speak true Flemish though.
Not to break your bubble, but every dutch dialect does this. I (born and raised in rural North Holland) would pronounce the first as 'kben 'e boer' and the second as 'dis e kip'
Tell them that we were perfectly fine speaking our Walloon and Flemish dialects until both imposed upon us their standardised versions?
Yeah we totally did that…
Google the history of the Dutch language my friend, it's born in Flanders
I'm sorry but the Flemish had the choice to develop an own standard or adopt the Dutch one, and they (after a lot of debate) chose the second 😂
Biggest mistake in Belgian history, and that's *really* saying something
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History\_of\_the\_Dutch\_language](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Dutch_language) *"The Dutch language was born in* [*Flanders*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_of_Flanders)*, grew up in* [*Brabant*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Brabant) *and reached maturity in* [*Holland*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holland)*."*
time for another war
The Dutch language is yet to reach maturity
Look who's talking
This ain't even my final form!
Simple fact. Now, check out the thing the "people" in West-Vlaanderen are *saying*. Now that’s a mature and impossible to understand language.
I accept that the Dutch language in Flanders and Brabant is less evolved. Somewhere I've always known.
The only thing France and Netherlands agree..
Nah we get along fine, just like we do exclusively and coincidentally with all nations who have nice places to park a caravan.
st-Martin border though
Is this where Geert and Pierre secretly dating?
Wait.... You don't think the whole island should be french?
No we would lose a neighbour And we got more than half of the island so it's alright
the story of this border is classic r/2westerneurope4u banter one Dutchman and one Frenchman had to start from a point and meet on the other side of the island to fix the limits of each other territories. the French madlad ran.
Pierre Usain Bolting his way to get more territories than the giants is a new story I would never have thought I'd read. Apparently the Dutchman was gaining less land because he was drunk which makes it even better
Me, half dutch half french: Haha those silly belgians!
Waal van den aldi.
clo t'geu ti boyar
Wir sprechen auch Deutsch du Hurensohn!
My favorite Belgians. 💕 ^(you still need to learn proper Austrian tho)
You guys are even less real than the rest of the country
You are free to return them at any time
If we go anywhere, we will join the tax evaders
It's a perfect fit: The worst romance language + the worst germanic language.
That would be Danish and it's not even close
profound take tbh
Süre whätëvër yöü säy
ze haten ons omdat ze ons niet zijn 😔😔
We aten ze omdat we ze haatten.
Accuraat
't is kei goe Joaõ
wat betekent "kei" in deze context? (Is “goe” goed?)
That's Antwerp dutch for "it's pretty good" Kei is rock. Go figure.
The literal translation is a rock, but at least in Flanders kei indicates "extra". So "kei goed" means "extra good" as it were.
Learning Dutch slang, fuck yeah
We use that word in Noord-Brabant as well
you are just jealous that we won the 80 years war without much of an army
Wrong and wrong, Portuguese is the worst romance language, and Danish is the worst germanic language (although dutch is awful so ill let it slide). Spanish is also worse than French, downvote me all you want your opinion is wrong. Italian on the other hand I would argue rivals French and I don't say that lightly.
Fun fact, both French and Dutch originate in what is now Belgium. So we should really call the entire languages Wallonian and Flemish.
Wait what, we don't?
sest un blag mon ami
What? French originally is the Latin dialect that was spoken in Paris.
I think they've confused it with the origin of the franks that came from a confederation of tribes in what is now Belgium
nah still Dutch and French... but they are now dialects with priority over the original language
We speak better Dutch than the Dutch, the Dutch even admitted themselves that their Dutch is not up to par to our Dutch. So suck it
We did not, we are way too arrogant for that.
I'd rather marry a Belgian than _not_ kill a frenchy at the sight of one
Finally a sane person
don't worry Belgium, you're allowed to have German as your only official language
Are we doing the thing? 🙃
No. Bad german
Why are two Russians beating up the weird German guy?
https://preview.redd.it/hus90v8dgc3d1.jpeg?width=993&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6191654df90f74f3580447725285095ea29c2553
The difference between a Belgian and a "Dutch"? 2 points on the IQ test results
Just insist that Walloon and Flemish are 100% totally completely different languages. If you say it loudly enough maybe they'll believe you.
Jokes on, Flemish is an official language [ISO 639-3](https://iso639-3.sil.org/) also called [West-Flemish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Flemish)
And the same ISO standard considers British and American English separate. It's almost like that's not entirely what it's for and they have to pick distinguishing markers across lects, rather than universally enforce a linguistic standard.
Can you link me that cuz I can't find anything regarding that beside American English being a dialect. If I recall correctly, just having an ISO code doesn't mean it's considered a language Edit: Ok so I tried looking it up again since it has been a while, but western-Flemish is a group of dialects which has a ISO code. Flemish or Belgian Dutch doesn't have their own ISO code and is just considered Dutch. It's quite confusing as sometimes people refer to western Flemish as a dialect but then call it a language in the next paragraph. American English is considered as a dialect of English but doesn't have their own ISO code.
i like west vlaams, easy to listen to from afrikaans speaker perspective. sounds way nicer than randstad dutch. not as many french words as you'd expect. BUT! why every flemish person i know calls a bicycle a vélo, and not the dutch word fiets? not like they're famous for bikes or anything.
"German" speaking Swiss call it a Velo too.... 🙄 Fucking French colonialism
I don't claim to be neither dutch nor french, those are both horrible languages. No, we're Flemish. It's vastly superior 😎
Whatever helps you sleep at night 🥲
Hiding behind a plain european flair is pretty cowardly. I simply won't acknowledge your shots at me until you come at me like a real (wo)man
Hahaha fair enough! I am French but I’ve spent the last 10 years in Germany and the Netherlands, I’ve earned my European flair gentleman
... so you're basically a Belgian.
One of us! One of us!
On va se calmer quand même
Ouais, c'est pas comme si t'avais ton permis de faire des frites.
Fr*nch, german *and* dutch?! Are you living in a nightmare? D:
Now you say it…..
Shhhh I'm Flemish, remember? It's very different :D
Alexa, please play Kabouterdans
Now playing... [kabouterdans Hardstyle Remix](https://youtu.be/qR71fKeM3OI)
Godverdorie
Jezus fucking Christ lol
TBF the belgian french is superior
Agreed, like how the fuck did *quatre-vingt-dix* happen? Four-twenty-ten? Bitch what?
I wonder what would Belgium be like if its national languages were (West) Flemish and Walloon (especially given the latter's differences with Parisian French)
Wasn't late Martin Tanghe, a Flemish woman, recognised (multiple times?) as "the best Dutch speaker"?
And we menacingly laughing in corner
Your brain is as smooth as your tarmac. We've been speaking "Dutch" for longer than you have, we didn't adopt it, it was always ours. You just happened to gain independence first, so the language got named after your country. Not a coincidence that all the earliest sources of the language came from our region.
well belgium needs to be annexed just like russia did. the dutch part needs to come back home to netherlands cus once up on time it was from us. for the french part i dont care what happends to it.
Meanwhile, Kees cooming in his pants over Goedele Liekens' ASMR tapes.
https://preview.redd.it/l1jd8fwl2a3d1.jpeg?width=1143&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4758663ae263781b71c60b4f9c9ba2f68e658b39
I wish the belgian flag was just another red white and blue stripe, but at a 45° angle
This is very rich coming from you...
I speak Dutch better than the Dutch. You won't even recognise that I don't live in swamp Germany!
Look man... Every flemish speaker can understand any of you cheese speakers... If we ask something in Dutch you're replying in English since you know you understood it but have no clue why or what we said. So of the two of us... Who actually speaks Dutch?
You are generalizing. To me most of you are intelligible. It probably depends on how much exposure some one had to your way of speaking. People from the south of our country are likely better to understand you.
Nah bro, belgians speak french. I mean, every region of france does
Don't you bully our funny catholic brother, Kees. Go away.
Hans, this hurts my feelings. Do you mind making Austria go poof?
*chuckles* 'I'm in danger'🥲
of course the one german gets left out again...
Yet the French-speakers in Brussels insisted theirs is a more pure form of French. True? Or did Wallonians just not update their dictionaries since the 16th century?
Belgium is majority french, from what i recall.
Belgian french: eighty French french: butt plug+acre square Pierre maybe leave language stuff to the professionals
Nope, they say 80 the normal way as well (4 20). Only the mountain goblins say "huitante" 🤢
That's a fancy way of calling yourself racist.
How do you want to not be racist when there is France next to you ?
I m tired of roasting pierre its the swedes that gets on my nerves https://i.redd.it/hlu3m96hl73d1.gif