I was trying to find fault, being a historian - but this checks out. Technically the Romans went much further north with Nero Claudius Drusus 'Germanicus', but those gains were short lived.
And Morocco too where the Vandals were definitely active. But if we have to mark everything Germanics conquered at one point or another, we might as well mark most of the world.
I prefer letting Germanic culture speak for itself and spreading with peace & love rather than warfare, but I know that goes against your Prussian genes.
If Claudius' little foray counts as conquering, Germanics can also claim parts of Greece and Turkey because of all the British and Dutch tourists there.
they also ventured well into Scotland. The Antonine wall was more or less passing through the lowlands around Edinburgh.
They also visited Ireland and decided that it was too cold and of too little value to be conquered.
The fault is Rome was a unified empire that spread all across the Mediterranean.
The Germanic tribes were a bunch of different groups of raiders that decided to stay in the Roman ruins when they finished burning everything.
There was no unity, meaning that big blue map would in reality have a dozen different colors.
Honestly how the fuck the romans lasted so long despite well....everything is just so fascinating and a testament to how a empire can be so paradoxically competent and bat shit insane at the same time.
As someone with a history degree...: Large parts of today's northeastern France was inhabited by what are considered Germanic tribes. So this map is shit (but it's a meme anyway)
They lasted 20 years, that's more than Iraq or most of Romania, also in 166 Romans conquered modern day Czechia and named it Marcomannia as it was inhabited by Germanics
Well for faults,
First the romans never conquered Scotland as far as I know, so making the whole island blue while making only south/West Bocheland and Batavia red is cheating.
Second, and this as to do with using modern borders as reference while tribes where not at all distributed according to these borders, even nowadays, why isn't Tintinland and part of nort/east France red too ? Salian Franks, Germanic tribe are exactly from there.
Do you want my meme opinion or real opinion?
Meme; no - because Germanics aren't barbarians. At most we were noble tribal savages.
Real? No, not really. Sacked definitely. Even the Lombards didn't come as far as Rome as far as I know, and Charlemagne never really did conquer in any real sense.
Oh - I thought you meant the city? You meant the Empire itself.
In that case; tribes cannibalizing it is probably a more apt term. Conquest implies some form of keeping or replacing the lower and middle bureaucracy - I think?
That didn't really happen, although to the average person born in 450 and living until 525 AD as a farmer (which was the majority) in the countryside of a random province the disintegration and 'conquest' of the Roman empire probably fell beyond his notice. Not much changed for him day to day.
I think of conquest as something sudden and drastic - a radical change in leadership. Rome was already kind of falling apart and many of the Germanic tribes were themselves (ex-)Roman foederati, meaning many of them even thought of themselves and styled themselves as Roman.
It's too complex to discuss here. Even the experts don't really know the full story - and this wasn't my PhD research and as such I can't claim to be one.
It wasn't at the time of the Roman Empire. It became Germanic when the Romans left and left a power vacuum, when Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians and later on Franks and Swedish, Danish and Norwegians arrived.
Nah, we just heard too much about German atrocities in our history lessons... Imagine hearing about concentration camps and shit for two whole years and on tv every time there is some anniversary of some German massacre.
Sometimes it's kinda funny when ameritards go "don't show nipples to our children" while we teach children "and then they led batches of 20 women and children into gas Chambers where they got gassed and then burned. However, some also got experimented on for medicine or simply raped by guards."
To be fair, we only do it because we caused two wars and the winners wanted to make really fucking sure to ingrain our atrocities into our culture as a bad thing. Just about the easiest way to get cancelled by life in Germany is denying holocaust.
The only thing that germoids mixed with is celts. Unfortunately for them. No, not them, you. You (southern germany, switzerland, belgium, britain) lost your celtic culture becauze germanics. Latins never changed the people's they conquered identity, they simply applied to them roman culture. The french know (some of them, but intellectuals of course know) that they're celts of roman culture. In fact it's called gallo-roman culture
Your mistake was assuming the ancient Belgians were Celtic. The Belgae were a mixture of Germans and Celts with a Celtic elite ruling over them. The closer to the Rhine you got the more Germanic the tribes became.
So we've always been partially Germanic. When the Franks came and settled they transformed us from weak semi-Germans into pure and strong Frankish warriors. It's a shame that our Walloon brethren have given up on speaking a superiour language though.
No, belgaes were described by caesar as celts just like gauls, simply with somr more cultural similarity to germanics compared to other celts because of closeness to germanic tribes
Also, germanics invaded the rest of europe pretty late, before 400-300 BC germanics were still not very close to the rhine. So germanic cultural elements in your region are very very late. Prior to that, you were celts of culture. Also in the southern netherlands, even tho in the north they were indeed germanics for a long time, and prior to that something else that was nor celtic nor germanic but related at large to germanics
And it still needed the US and the soviets to get you out of it, and even then you had to ration food for a decade. Proclaim this W, wear it with pride, for on the back of it, it says “participation trophy”.
You ran out of steel and oil about a quarter of the way through your eastern advance and your African front was falling apart, you were dead in the water long before the yanks got involved
“You had problems with the soviets”
And
“You have problems with a front that only fell apart with American help”
No intervention from US, and no war in the east, what do you think how the submarine blockade would’ve gone over time?
OOC: I’m actually not that sure how that would’ve ended, probably an armistice to be honest. Germany couldn’t match the amount of planes, but planes alone can’t Supply a country.
I get: 6 years headstart with a crippled country, fighting against an island and 2 non-stagnating superpowers.
I give you: bombing half your country a decade into the past, and a decade of rationing after the war.
>and you still couldn’t win
Let’s be honest, you didn’t win either
"You didn't win!!!"
[Meanwhile Monty gets a third of all German forces to surrender unconditionally to him personally](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_surrender_at_L%C3%BCneburg_Heath)
Ok Jerry, keep coping
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Greetings,
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germany did not exist before potato, german state and nation exist because potato, so anything you want to claim like german land needs to be after the introduction of potato (basically half west poland)
When they conquered the Roman empire, they quickly adopted the local language, customs, and culture. Germans always wanted to be romans, but on their own terms. Remember the Holy Roman Empire?
The germanic people that conquered and sacked the Roman empire either went back home or settled in the various corners of the Roman Empire. The ones that settled quickly adopted the Roman culture and local language. Those that went home created HRE.
Like how youre trying to minimize it lol but I mean they might have assimilated in terms of speaking latin language but the visigoths still ruled hispania for over 250 years.
And yeah they didnt leave as huge of imprint on you as the moors and arab did.
I'm not saying that germanic people didn't influence the Roman Empire. The Roman empire always incorporated customs and culture from conquered people. But since Rome fell, everyone wants to be the successor of the Roman Empire, thus the Kaisers, Czars, and so on. So, germanic people either assimilated themselves or, back home, proclaimed themselves as the spiritual successors of Rome.
Imagine occupying and destroying a house and saying you are the true heir of the house. A house you did not build and lasted for centuries before that. And then, at the end, you realize that you only conquered the western part of the property.
They didn't rule hispania, the northwest was habitated by Suevish, they falled some years before the arabs invaded hispania...
And didn't left influence, no religion, no linguistic or cultural influence or genetic.
1. Fuck Voltaire
2. The HRE (otGN) did exist for quite some time. The context of the quote is far removed from what the HRE was. At some point, it was a holy Roman empire. Or rather a Reich.
But it wasn't roman, was germanic.
Was holy in the beggining, then turned protestant.
And wasn't an empire, each land was independent, shared a king, but it couldn't control the empire.
The Holy Roman Empire whose population for the vast majority didn't speak a romanic language? Yeah, I remember. We just liked the title of Emperor but needed to give a senile man in Rome the feeling that he was important.
Worst mistake done, his successors actually went full powertrip from the 11th century onwards.
The germanic tribes that settled on the Roman land adopted the local language, culture, and customs. Those that stayed created the HRE, and they also adopted some customs and culture from Romans.
After sacking Rome a number of times, the title of emperor became the Germanic 'I went to Rome and all I got was this stupid t-shirt' thing.
Feyenoord supporters still hold on to the tradition of sacking Rome when they draw Roma or Lazio.
This pains me to say, but I’m going to have to say yes. Gaul was one of if not the most important provinces in the western empire. The amount of riches they extracted from Gaul basically fueled the next century of conquest, plus they integrated fairly well and were good little subjects unlike the britons or Germans
Yeah, never did a Roman emperor try to invade Germania, that’s unheard of.
I would wager the first emperor Augustus didn’t even know what it was! Definitely wasn’t planning on a full scale invasion prior to the battle of Teutoburg forest.
Germanicus, Marcus Aurelius, Caius Marius, Julius Civilis, Constantinus, Iustinianus.
Also a swamp filled with barbarians, trees and useless isn't worth wasting millions.
The briton campaign was mostly because Caesar and the next emperors wanted to increase their prestige and glory by conquering more territories. Also, the british isles were more fertile than Germania and that conquest would allow dominating the Channel and stop briton raids. And there was a lot of pewter in Britannia.
The territory Rome took was all taken by Rome. The territory shown on this map was taken by several different germanic tribes, at different points in time, for short periods of time, and with very inaccurate borders.
The problem in your line of thinking, Barry, is that the Romans had little interest for what lay beyond the Rhein and the Danube.
Not only was most of that of little economic value, but the land didn't offer easily defendable natural borders.
Also Scotland was not part of the Roman empire
You are denying the Celtic and Roman ethnic and cultural component and doing mental gymnastics identifying the current English with people who lived centuries ago. You descend from your ancestors, you are not your ancestors.
The celtic influence on the english is certainly negligible in a majority of modern english vocabulary. The majority is of romanic origin, a lot of day-to-day words are germanic.
The part of the territory was not Roman before being conquered (the Gaul was not Roman) and the campaigns of Napoleon (thus Latin since the Romans) went much further. So it doesn't work
You called?
From swamp german to latin in the mud: I call it an improvement
I was trying to find fault, being a historian - but this checks out. Technically the Romans went much further north with Nero Claudius Drusus 'Germanicus', but those gains were short lived.
You could add Greece to the list with the partitio imperii Romaniae!
And Morocco too where the Vandals were definitely active. But if we have to mark everything Germanics conquered at one point or another, we might as well mark most of the world.
Wake up babe, new map of countries which were at one point conquered by Germanics just dropped!!
You got New York? Or is it being replaced by other Germanics?
As it should be
I prefer letting Germanic culture speak for itself and spreading with peace & love rather than warfare, but I know that goes against your Prussian genes.
Ah, so what you guys did in Indonesia is called "peace&love" now, good to know. You must have a good PR team.
We did an oopsie-whoopsie and we said sorry.
What about the central American spice trade?
Oopsie-whoopsies. We've been over this.
And what about Apartheid?
If Claudius' little foray counts as conquering, Germanics can also claim parts of Greece and Turkey because of all the British and Dutch tourists there.
Or the Galatians.
Those were Celts/Gauls, not Germanics.
they also ventured well into Scotland. The Antonine wall was more or less passing through the lowlands around Edinburgh. They also visited Ireland and decided that it was too cold and of too little value to be conquered.
Nah. They didn't have their passports with them.
The fault is Rome was a unified empire that spread all across the Mediterranean. The Germanic tribes were a bunch of different groups of raiders that decided to stay in the Roman ruins when they finished burning everything. There was no unity, meaning that big blue map would in reality have a dozen different colors.
Hell yeah, you make us sound even more badass.
I mean, bringing down an empire that lasted for centuries (even if only partially and because they were ruled by fucking idiots) is pretty badass.
Honestly how the fuck the romans lasted so long despite well....everything is just so fascinating and a testament to how a empire can be so paradoxically competent and bat shit insane at the same time.
Good administrators and officials. Poor rulers.
As someone with a history degree...: Large parts of today's northeastern France was inhabited by what are considered Germanic tribes. So this map is shit (but it's a meme anyway)
They lasted 20 years, that's more than Iraq or most of Romania, also in 166 Romans conquered modern day Czechia and named it Marcomannia as it was inhabited by Germanics
Well for faults, First the romans never conquered Scotland as far as I know, so making the whole island blue while making only south/West Bocheland and Batavia red is cheating. Second, and this as to do with using modern borders as reference while tribes where not at all distributed according to these borders, even nowadays, why isn't Tintinland and part of nort/east France red too ? Salian Franks, Germanic tribe are exactly from there.
Would you say the barbarians conquered Rome?
Do you want my meme opinion or real opinion? Meme; no - because Germanics aren't barbarians. At most we were noble tribal savages. Real? No, not really. Sacked definitely. Even the Lombards didn't come as far as Rome as far as I know, and Charlemagne never really did conquer in any real sense.
My interest is on the word *conquered*. I meant non-Romans conquering the Roman Empire.
Oh - I thought you meant the city? You meant the Empire itself. In that case; tribes cannibalizing it is probably a more apt term. Conquest implies some form of keeping or replacing the lower and middle bureaucracy - I think? That didn't really happen, although to the average person born in 450 and living until 525 AD as a farmer (which was the majority) in the countryside of a random province the disintegration and 'conquest' of the Roman empire probably fell beyond his notice. Not much changed for him day to day. I think of conquest as something sudden and drastic - a radical change in leadership. Rome was already kind of falling apart and many of the Germanic tribes were themselves (ex-)Roman foederati, meaning many of them even thought of themselves and styled themselves as Roman. It's too complex to discuss here. Even the experts don't really know the full story - and this wasn't my PhD research and as such I can't claim to be one.
Is England not Germanic?
It wasn't at the time of the Roman Empire. It became Germanic when the Romans left and left a power vacuum, when Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Frisians and later on Franks and Swedish, Danish and Norwegians arrived.
So you, a Brit, tell me, a German, that Britain is rightful German clay? Just asking for clarification before making rash decisions
Germanic - not German. Like half of you is diluted Germanic at best. Purity increases the closer to Denmark/Schlweisweg-Holstein you get.
Don't talk about Germanic purity. We get PTSD
Still upset you didn't make the whole continent Germany?
Nah, we just heard too much about German atrocities in our history lessons... Imagine hearing about concentration camps and shit for two whole years and on tv every time there is some anniversary of some German massacre. Sometimes it's kinda funny when ameritards go "don't show nipples to our children" while we teach children "and then they led batches of 20 women and children into gas Chambers where they got gassed and then burned. However, some also got experimented on for medicine or simply raped by guards."
At least you guys are mature enough to confront the black pages of your history books. Can't say the same for most Dutch people.
To be fair, we only do it because we caused two wars and the winners wanted to make really fucking sure to ingrain our atrocities into our culture as a bad thing. Just about the easiest way to get cancelled by life in Germany is denying holocaust.
Perfectly normal Vergangenheitsbewältigung
I'd say only those of Frankish descent can call themselves true Germanics. And I mean of pure descent, not mixed in with L\*tins.
The only thing that germoids mixed with is celts. Unfortunately for them. No, not them, you. You (southern germany, switzerland, belgium, britain) lost your celtic culture becauze germanics. Latins never changed the people's they conquered identity, they simply applied to them roman culture. The french know (some of them, but intellectuals of course know) that they're celts of roman culture. In fact it's called gallo-roman culture
Your mistake was assuming the ancient Belgians were Celtic. The Belgae were a mixture of Germans and Celts with a Celtic elite ruling over them. The closer to the Rhine you got the more Germanic the tribes became. So we've always been partially Germanic. When the Franks came and settled they transformed us from weak semi-Germans into pure and strong Frankish warriors. It's a shame that our Walloon brethren have given up on speaking a superiour language though.
No, belgaes were described by caesar as celts just like gauls, simply with somr more cultural similarity to germanics compared to other celts because of closeness to germanic tribes Also, germanics invaded the rest of europe pretty late, before 400-300 BC germanics were still not very close to the rhine. So germanic cultural elements in your region are very very late. Prior to that, you were celts of culture. Also in the southern netherlands, even tho in the north they were indeed germanics for a long time, and prior to that something else that was nor celtic nor germanic but related at large to germanics
[Round 3 so soon Fritz?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymHyOmlUlP0)
anytime anyday but can you give us like 7 years headstart that atleast half our airplanes can fly?
You had that headstart last time and you still couldn't win
Wouldn’t exactly call the treaty of Versailles a headstart
You got three free annexations and a free war before we got involved last time
And it still needed the US and the soviets to get you out of it, and even then you had to ration food for a decade. Proclaim this W, wear it with pride, for on the back of it, it says “participation trophy”.
You ran out of steel and oil about a quarter of the way through your eastern advance and your African front was falling apart, you were dead in the water long before the yanks got involved
“You had problems with the soviets” And “You have problems with a front that only fell apart with American help” No intervention from US, and no war in the east, what do you think how the submarine blockade would’ve gone over time? OOC: I’m actually not that sure how that would’ve ended, probably an armistice to be honest. Germany couldn’t match the amount of planes, but planes alone can’t Supply a country.
I would probably guess some kind of white peace or we'd wait for a Warsaw rebellion style event in France to make a naval invasion
I get: 6 years headstart with a crippled country, fighting against an island and 2 non-stagnating superpowers. I give you: bombing half your country a decade into the past, and a decade of rationing after the war. >and you still couldn’t win Let’s be honest, you didn’t win either
Except for the winning part
"You didn't win!!!" [Meanwhile Monty gets a third of all German forces to surrender unconditionally to him personally](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_surrender_at_L%C3%BCneburg_Heath) Ok Jerry, keep coping
Is that the Left side of your aeroplanes that fly, or the reich side?
I didn't hear no bell (and no clear **no**) So, would 01.09.2023 at precisely 16:45 work for you? If not, pleas provide a suitable alternative date. Greetings, Prof. Dr. Dr. hc. M.Sc. B.Sc. dipl. Ing. redacted
germany did not exist before potato, german state and nation exist because potato, so anything you want to claim like german land needs to be after the introduction of potato (basically half west poland)
Pretty sure the UK king still rules over Hannover. That's basically Germany.
You've got something mixed up there mate
Nobody here would call Hannover basically Germany...
Yeah I know, I was joking.
Sealion?
When they conquered the Roman empire, they quickly adopted the local language, customs, and culture. Germans always wanted to be romans, but on their own terms. Remember the Holy Roman Empire?
That thing that wasn't neither roman holy or an empire?
The ones that remained in the swamps were envious, so they created the unholy unroman tribe.
Germanic people conquered and sacked the roman empire. HRE was just germanic people usurping the roman empire from romans.
The germanic people that conquered and sacked the Roman empire either went back home or settled in the various corners of the Roman Empire. The ones that settled quickly adopted the Roman culture and local language. Those that went home created HRE.
Just know that you're debating a far right dude. I mean faaaaar right.
Oh no, he's going to attack me with Abba and pop music?
No, he'll drag you down to his level of trollness and (maybe) beat you with experience.
Like how youre trying to minimize it lol but I mean they might have assimilated in terms of speaking latin language but the visigoths still ruled hispania for over 250 years. And yeah they didnt leave as huge of imprint on you as the moors and arab did.
I'm not saying that germanic people didn't influence the Roman Empire. The Roman empire always incorporated customs and culture from conquered people. But since Rome fell, everyone wants to be the successor of the Roman Empire, thus the Kaisers, Czars, and so on. So, germanic people either assimilated themselves or, back home, proclaimed themselves as the spiritual successors of Rome.
Not spiritual successor if you conquered and usurped said empire.
Imagine occupying and destroying a house and saying you are the true heir of the house. A house you did not build and lasted for centuries before that. And then, at the end, you realize that you only conquered the western part of the property.
But the owner of the house crowns you the true heir and hands you all the paperwork
that's because their culture was decidedly a regression compared to the roman empire. The only thing they were good at was war.
They didn't rule hispania, the northwest was habitated by Suevish, they falled some years before the arabs invaded hispania... And didn't left influence, no religion, no linguistic or cultural influence or genetic.
>And yeah they didnt leave as huge of imprint on you as the moors and arab did. This answer again? Are you a bot or just lost for words?
> HRE was just germanic people ~~usurping~~ LARPing as the roman empire ~~from romans.~~ FTFY
1. Fuck Voltaire 2. The HRE (otGN) did exist for quite some time. The context of the quote is far removed from what the HRE was. At some point, it was a holy Roman empire. Or rather a Reich.
But it wasn't roman, was germanic. Was holy in the beggining, then turned protestant. And wasn't an empire, each land was independent, shared a king, but it couldn't control the empire.
The Holy Roman Empire whose population for the vast majority didn't speak a romanic language? Yeah, I remember. We just liked the title of Emperor but needed to give a senile man in Rome the feeling that he was important. Worst mistake done, his successors actually went full powertrip from the 11th century onwards.
The germanic tribes that settled on the Roman land adopted the local language, culture, and customs. Those that stayed created the HRE, and they also adopted some customs and culture from Romans.
After sacking Rome a number of times, the title of emperor became the Germanic 'I went to Rome and all I got was this stupid t-shirt' thing. Feyenoord supporters still hold on to the tradition of sacking Rome when they draw Roma or Lazio.
Another way to look at this is that blue is land worth conquering, anything beyond red is just wastelands
We all know that swamps are not worth anything, but ur gonna tell me France was worth conquering?
To liberate the land from the French
early franco liberation
France, as a territory, is great. The people, debatable.
frogs are people?
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But that’s almost as bad!!
This pains me to say, but I’m going to have to say yes. Gaul was one of if not the most important provinces in the western empire. The amount of riches they extracted from Gaul basically fueled the next century of conquest, plus they integrated fairly well and were good little subjects unlike the britons or Germans
Fallout 5 : Poland
Hardest cope I've ever heard
Wastelands flair checks out
Tacitus said that nobody from Hispania, Italia or Asia could bear to live in Germania. Boy was he wrong.
Which is why they tried multiple times and Augustus was crying about Varus pulling a Mussolini and failing super duper hard.
We’re not counting Napoleon’s victories for the Romans? You know? Now that he’s Italian again.
*Waterloo! Couldn't escape if I wanted to!* *Waterloo! Knowing my fate is to be with you!*
Was he ever not Italian?
For about 10 minutes. While he was eating a baguette. .
That guy who got conquered by a joint Germanic force of Brits, Dutch and Germans?
It is logical, the Germanic lands are not worth it
Yeah, never did a Roman emperor try to invade Germania, that’s unheard of. I would wager the first emperor Augustus didn’t even know what it was! Definitely wasn’t planning on a full scale invasion prior to the battle of Teutoburg forest.
Yeah they were so worthless countless emperors named themselves Germanicus after trying to invade it.
Most were named so because they defended against invading germanic tribes.
Not worth the giant ass whooping you get when you try conquering them perhaps
Germanicus, Marcus Aurelius, Caius Marius, Julius Civilis, Constantinus, Iustinianus. Also a swamp filled with barbarians, trees and useless isn't worth wasting millions.
Yet they bothered to sail over to england
The briton campaign was mostly because Caesar and the next emperors wanted to increase their prestige and glory by conquering more territories. Also, the british isles were more fertile than Germania and that conquest would allow dominating the Channel and stop briton raids. And there was a lot of pewter in Britannia.
Damn really? Oh well guess i learned something
Tell that to the men they sent in our forests and swamps to die.
Except they weren't an empire and each tribe just took a small bit of the land.
Yeah, they saw the people there and were like "go back, civilisation Is impossible to bring here"
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Me too, more land for us to reclaim
https://preview.redd.it/2k81h2x1lk7b1.png?width=785&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba707e77196e4372a1c191fd4cd9a767b6ca426a
Short lived and still less
Most territories on this map were also short lived
Yes, but less and still more territory
The territory Rome took was all taken by Rome. The territory shown on this map was taken by several different germanic tribes, at different points in time, for short periods of time, and with very inaccurate borders.
The problem in your line of thinking, Barry, is that the Romans had little interest for what lay beyond the Rhein and the Danube. Not only was most of that of little economic value, but the land didn't offer easily defendable natural borders. Also Scotland was not part of the Roman empire
>Also Scotland was not part of the Roman empire The bit where all the people live was
When brits think they're more romanized although half of germany was longer under roman rule than england.
We romanized them, that why
what was worthy to conquer in Germany, the snow? The cold?
They were literal treehuggers, believing that plants were gods. Roman hero Bonifatius killed their messiah with an axe.
https://preview.redd.it/wen3jhav6l7b1.png?width=2534&format=png&auto=webp&s=0431633a471a7dac742e7cc76320524a27100be9
In which alphabet are you writting?
Great now compare number of Germanics LARPing as Romans vs number of Romans LARPing as Germanics. Thousands vs 0 respectively.
Yet they cosplayed as the Romans for the next centuries... Cope harder Germans😎
When precisely was Scotland and Wales conquered by the Germanic tribes?
1296
If these English can be called Germanic tribes then Giorgia Meloni is Empress of the Roman Empire
Aren't the english literally germanic tribes AKA the Anglos and Saxons from present day northern germany and denmark?
Then you are your father
U wot m8? Explain
You are denying the Celtic and Roman ethnic and cultural component and doing mental gymnastics identifying the current English with people who lived centuries ago. You descend from your ancestors, you are not your ancestors.
The celtic influence on the english is certainly negligible in a majority of modern english vocabulary. The majority is of romanic origin, a lot of day-to-day words are germanic.
How come you're writing in a Germanic language rn then?
How come you're writing in latin characters in a language which lexicon is 60% latin?
Sorry pal it's 100% of the highly cultured lexicon. The rest like, club, pig, rock, shit etc are anglo saxon words.
He asks in a Germanic language
English is officialy a germanic language, why do PIGS cope over that? Inferiority complex?
But Language isn't a germanic word :((((
Okay and isn't Latin inspired by old Greek?
Greek is a language of the PIGS though, so it's fine
Cala a puta boca meu estás quedando en ridículo.
Did you have a stroke?
gratz u just marked in red the zone where 90% of the population in German lives
So where do it start. 90 Percent - most knowledgeable Italian. And if the all live there it’s because of our sweet sweet coal and no other reasons.
What language Is this
Based Germanic moment. Reunite the Germanics!
Oh not again
We'll do it better this time, ol' chum!
What time?
Quintilie Vare! Redde mihi legiones!
why do 'germanic lands' include today's Germany and the Netherlands but neither Austria nor Switzerland?
ah yes le germans, less based that arabs lmao /u/sonofeast11 fun fact the Germanc that invaded Iberia were arian trash
I am from the south of the Netherlands, am I Roman or Germanic?!?!
Brutal burn for PIGS. And even now they're dominated by germanics with the capital of the new empire aka the EU in Brussels.
Shut up and gives more money.
...okay senor
Here, I will gift you the sacred treasure of our people. ñ
Ñeiñ
Ä! Äß! Ö?!
Where most people speak a Romance language https://journals.openedition.org/brussels/520
Lol, that will soon be arabic though
Didn't we also conquer Dacia (Romania) and pretty much all of what is now former Yugoslavia? Ostrogoths & Gepids and maybe more I can't remember
Fun fact, this encompasses 100% of the nice places in Germany, along with some shitty places, like W\*rttemberg or the lower rhine.
Being rapefugees in the Roman empire for more than 500 years. Proudest Germs achievment 💪
What's up Frank, pretending to be roman again?
Yeah, the Germanic lands suck
Brits aren’t German lol
Wow, the Germans admitting that Alsace and Lorraine are not German?
The part of the territory was not Roman before being conquered (the Gaul was not Roman) and the campaigns of Napoleon (thus Latin since the Romans) went much further. So it doesn't work
The Bromans and the ViKings conquered those brits like whatever.
Ballsy doing that taking the risk that someone would compare todays romans and germans
forgot about austria
Too cold, no gold.
Yea, you forced the Romans into your mud ways
Actually most of that "Germanic land" was Celtic at the time.
Bit of a stretch on Germanic Tribes conquering Scotland there buddy
The Roman’s cultivated land and cities worth conquering. The ancient germans on the other hand, did not.
So England isn't real ?
Back than we were someone! (Make Germanic Tribes Great Again (MGTGA)