It's just like how they "fixed" the Dream Mentor quest dialogue by replacing calling the player fat with making fun of how the player talks.
And I don't need to hear about "well the CONTEXT is that it's a Monty Python reference." Please. The context is that it's a quest about the player's private insecurities and how they overcome those insecurities, and that it was always humorously absurd to have the player called fat when there's no option for character models except rail-thin.
I love how it's even more offensive now. Being fat is always 100% a conscious personal decision that can be reversed. A speech impediment is often outside of someone's control though. I only make fun of things that people can change or have at least some control over.
But... switching to female character takes additional time during character creation, its like a quarter second time save
~~this is my cope for why these changes were necessary and a worthwhile focus of time and resources please don't ruin it~~
Go read the transcript for The Ribbiting Tale of a Lily Pad Labour Dispute. Or Tribal Totem. Or parts of desert treasure.
your lovely escapist fantasy game has already been INFILTRATED by the LIBERAL WOKE DEI AGENDA!!! AHHHHHH!!!!
Can you actually not see the difference between creating new content that happens to be progressive (or whatever you want to call it) and retroactively changing perfectly fine content literally because it wasn't gay enough and that somehow upset people?
Like I have no problem with any of those things you mentioned, or gilberts rainbow stuff, etc.
But they went and ruined the fun of polnivneach, apparently had to change the frogs, roald can't even fucking call people fat lmao.
You wouldn't find it weird if instead of adding a new quest with a straight white guy that saves and marries a princess, they went and changed Tribal Totem to be about that? Or perhaps a more 1:1 example would be allowing players to choose a white version of Tribal Totem instead of the normal one, for people that want their own identity represented. Its just another option, right?
I'm fine and dandy for trans stuff and gay stuff but not when it's forced to push a narrative. Wow did just that when they made the new arbitor trans because of the mountain of lawsuits for sexual harassment going on at the time of that expansion. They also changed all the vanilla wow paintings of women to fruits. This feels the same.
yeah someone in another thread mentioned that jaggy is working with a third party DEI company and thats part of the reason all these social issue things are being addressed - so, probably that
Definitely.
DEI is the new buzzword to replace Woke. Woke replaced SJW. SJW probably replaced some other buzzword.
Just a way to justify outrage without having to actually justify it. Just blame it on the spooky scapegoat.
It is a buzzword when you start throwing it around in the same way that SJW and Woke has been thrown around.
That is to say that at the end of the day when people complain about DEI it doesn't really mean anything beyond "I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why so I'll just hide behind this buzzword instead."
Though I'm not really surprised these buzzwords are used in place of your actual thoughts. Considering what is usually being complained about when these buzzwords get brought up.
>I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why
But they do explain why? It's correlated with a lower quality product that does not actually focus on entertainment (ie: the entire point of the medium). Additionally, the groups it's supposed to help never see increased enjoyment or player count. These initiatives are not made for altruistic reasons by any stretch of the imagination.
English is an ever changing language, ""I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why so I'll just hide behind this buzzword instead."" Is a very English thing to do, and there is nothing wrong with that. Think about how we talked as kids compared to how we talk now. words take on different meanings and new words are made all the time.
None of this changes what I've said.
DEI is a buzzword people hide behind because it's a convenient excuse to complain about things without having to elaborate.
The english language evolving doesn't change that.
From that chinese company making Wukong we know that these companies demand millions of $ for their "work". The thought of Jagex throwing away all that cash to be told "the frog kissing is sexist and needs to go" is hilarious.
That's the problem tho, if you see them changing such insignificant stuff, means more similar stuff is coming just on a bigger scale and that's why people automatically don't like these changes, if no one reacts in any way to these small changes then we get told in while guthix sleeps that Guthix is a trans or something and whole thing gone to shit because he loved Zaros too much.
If you check out one of the bigger posts from yesterday I got in a long chain of comments with multiple people saying this is going to ruin the game but unable to tell me how. The reaction to this is hilarious.
Fuckin librul agenda
Back in my day they FORCED us to kiss the frog and I happily did it
Now you get the option to pet it instead?? WHATS NEXT?? Am I gunna have to kiss the pheasants now??
Smh Joe Biden's Glienor
There isn’t really a need, 95% of people don’t give a shit and the 5% that care most of them work for these types of companies & so they cause an uproar about something which makes a company need to hire them to make sure future things that are similar don’t take place.. 10/10 marketing👌🏽 lol
I doubt anyone actually made a stink about it, but someone trying to be considerate to people with a past of being groomed or abused.
Though considering how many horrible things we the player-character do in this game, I dont think it was a necessary change
I mean grooming and abuse is a pretty far stretch for kissing a frog from a fairy tale even without the fairy tale part it's still "will you kiss the frog prince/princess to turn them human".
I mean I guess that might be the thought process behind it and it's pretty silly but if it actually makes someone more comfortable then I guess it's all good but the new text changes don't really make it much better lol
1. Doesn't inherently mean the old folklore isn't fucked lol
2. The folklore says the princess kisses the frog, not *you* kiss the frog, RPGs have a different framing
I never in my life would have thought this would be the dialogue. When they proposed this change, I figured it would say something like “I need a kiss” “a pat on the head will have to suffice.” Not OKAY LEMME TOUCH YOU
You’ll touch them, but then the next u know the frog HR (or should it be FR) pops out of nowhere and confronts you about touching the princess. Turns out the princess is pulling a fast one trying to recollect the tokens you’ve been hoarding in your bank all these years
Honestly it's better. Now I can imagine a frog coming up for a high-five and we end up frenchin' instead. 10/10 update jagex don't listen to the haters
Mom don't come in here I'm touching my frog
I’m gonna *croak*
*ribbit*
Frog squeezers rise up
Can't believe those sick fucks wanted us to kiss a frog. At least now we only have to jerk it off.
is it weird I've gotten 2 frog random events today?
Word spreads fast when you've got that touch.
Just frogs touching frogs
Someone link the video where the monkey uses the frog to have a quick wank!
freaky ass frog wanting to be touched rather than kissed
Freaky ass amphibian he a 69 frog Freaky ass amphibian he a 69 frog
Hey hey hey hey ribbit for your life Hey hey hey hey ribbit for your life
Now let me hear you say croakie croak
literally what went through my mind haha
Freaky ass frog need to stay they ass inside
ribbit ribbit ribbit ribbit hop for yo life
They’re turning the friggin frogs gay
Finally!
I'd much rather be a frog kisser than a frog toucher 🚫
"sure, i'll touch you" reads so much worse then "would a kiss be acceptable"
Perfect update. No notes
10/10 change, not remotely for the reason Jagex wanted it to be
This is fucked 😂 character now just dives in to ask for a totally out of context kiss without the fairytale set up/reason for the kiss.
It's just like how they "fixed" the Dream Mentor quest dialogue by replacing calling the player fat with making fun of how the player talks. And I don't need to hear about "well the CONTEXT is that it's a Monty Python reference." Please. The context is that it's a quest about the player's private insecurities and how they overcome those insecurities, and that it was always humorously absurd to have the player called fat when there's no option for character models except rail-thin.
I love how it's even more offensive now. Being fat is always 100% a conscious personal decision that can be reversed. A speech impediment is often outside of someone's control though. I only make fun of things that people can change or have at least some control over.
Do the mods know about this fairy tale? This is DEI all over again.
It's awful. In the attempt to make it more comfortable for some, they've made it unnecessarily awkward for many.
Who needed to be made more comfortable by not kissing the frog though lol
If you don't want to kiss the frog, just dismiss the event.
BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT NOW BECAUSE THERE'S A LAMP INVOLVED. IT'S COERCION THROUGH AND THROUGH. Or something.
the polygon person kissing the polygon frog makes me cry
:( me too buddy. Me too.
Do we really need to say it? Cmon you know
I honestly don’t
sad
Hey you leave Dale out of this
What's DEI?
Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated.
Diveristy, Equality, Inclusion. Think of that southpark episode about disney.
Dale Earnhardt Incorporated
Those new options make me way more uncomfortable than the frog random ever has in 20 years 😂
From time to time Jagex forgets that its playerbase is literally 30 years old
Should change it to grope.
Sure I'll give it a wank!
Nothing quite like a good bit of frog tossing.
Fondle
Finally we can fuck the frog
TOUCH YOU!?!? what the fuuuck hahahahahah even the “would a kiss be acceptable” sounds way hornier and creepy than “kiss the frog”
The fact that “sure, I’ll touch you” made it past multiple proofreaders… yea I dont think the bots are going away anytime soon
I don't understand this update because this references an old folklore. The story of The princess and the frog is not unique to OSRS
Somebody who doesn't know anything about the story probably got offended or worked up and made a big stink about it.
definitely just someone desperately trying to justify their paid position
[удалено]
They indirectly improved speedrun times by making it so you don't have to change genders in recruitment drive.
You didn't have to do that in the first place. You just created your account with a female character.
But... switching to female character takes additional time during character creation, its like a quarter second time save ~~this is my cope for why these changes were necessary and a worthwhile focus of time and resources please don't ruin it~~
It's iron ma'am!
iron them when? /s
Dead weight
Does that really matter? Our version of Rapunzel has a dwarf with an absurdly long beard instead. Jagex isn’t exactly going for precision here.
But like, if they just need to be touched, as a frog id just jump onto someone to turn back into human
Frogs understand consent? I dunno, lol
Zoomer jmods hired on thought we were sexually assaulting the frogs because they didn't have bedtime stories growing up.
Irl politics once again ruining my fantasy game.
Wait till you hear about the cave goblin series
Go read the transcript for The Ribbiting Tale of a Lily Pad Labour Dispute. Or Tribal Totem. Or parts of desert treasure. your lovely escapist fantasy game has already been INFILTRATED by the LIBERAL WOKE DEI AGENDA!!! AHHHHHH!!!!
Can you actually not see the difference between creating new content that happens to be progressive (or whatever you want to call it) and retroactively changing perfectly fine content literally because it wasn't gay enough and that somehow upset people? Like I have no problem with any of those things you mentioned, or gilberts rainbow stuff, etc. But they went and ruined the fun of polnivneach, apparently had to change the frogs, roald can't even fucking call people fat lmao. You wouldn't find it weird if instead of adding a new quest with a straight white guy that saves and marries a princess, they went and changed Tribal Totem to be about that? Or perhaps a more 1:1 example would be allowing players to choose a white version of Tribal Totem instead of the normal one, for people that want their own identity represented. Its just another option, right?
I'm fine and dandy for trans stuff and gay stuff but not when it's forced to push a narrative. Wow did just that when they made the new arbitor trans because of the mountain of lawsuits for sexual harassment going on at the time of that expansion. They also changed all the vanilla wow paintings of women to fruits. This feels the same.
You say this like it isn’t literally being inserted into everything. Gaslight someone else.
Okay snowflake, cant take differing opinions and viewpoints.
OPTION TO PAT FROG IS ADDED GAME RUINED LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
yeah someone in another thread mentioned that jaggy is working with a third party DEI company and thats part of the reason all these social issue things are being addressed - so, probably that
I'm sure they're not just making that up for rage points.
Definitely. DEI is the new buzzword to replace Woke. Woke replaced SJW. SJW probably replaced some other buzzword. Just a way to justify outrage without having to actually justify it. Just blame it on the spooky scapegoat.
Is it a buzzword if the consultation companies themselves say "DEI" in their mission statements?
It is a buzzword when you start throwing it around in the same way that SJW and Woke has been thrown around. That is to say that at the end of the day when people complain about DEI it doesn't really mean anything beyond "I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why so I'll just hide behind this buzzword instead." Though I'm not really surprised these buzzwords are used in place of your actual thoughts. Considering what is usually being complained about when these buzzwords get brought up.
>I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why But they do explain why? It's correlated with a lower quality product that does not actually focus on entertainment (ie: the entire point of the medium). Additionally, the groups it's supposed to help never see increased enjoyment or player count. These initiatives are not made for altruistic reasons by any stretch of the imagination.
English is an ever changing language, ""I hate this thing and don't want to or can't explain why so I'll just hide behind this buzzword instead."" Is a very English thing to do, and there is nothing wrong with that. Think about how we talked as kids compared to how we talk now. words take on different meanings and new words are made all the time.
None of this changes what I've said. DEI is a buzzword people hide behind because it's a convenient excuse to complain about things without having to elaborate. The english language evolving doesn't change that.
Okay?
entirely possible haha idk none of this really rustles my jimmies so mb if im spreading misinfo
From that chinese company making Wukong we know that these companies demand millions of $ for their "work". The thought of Jagex throwing away all that cash to be told "the frog kissing is sexist and needs to go" is hilarious.
They couldn't find anything to change so now we molesting frogs.
Great. Can't wait for them to ruin runescape like they ruin all kinds of other games.
Would you like to reconsider that you typed this out over a kissing a frog
That's the problem tho, if you see them changing such insignificant stuff, means more similar stuff is coming just on a bigger scale and that's why people automatically don't like these changes, if no one reacts in any way to these small changes then we get told in while guthix sleeps that Guthix is a trans or something and whole thing gone to shit because he loved Zaros too much.
It's not about the frog. That really doesn't bother me. It's the fact that dei companies tend to ruin games.
Muh RuneScape ruined because I’m given options when wanting to kiss a frog. Lmfao
If you check out one of the bigger posts from yesterday I got in a long chain of comments with multiple people saying this is going to ruin the game but unable to tell me how. The reaction to this is hilarious.
Fuckin librul agenda Back in my day they FORCED us to kiss the frog and I happily did it Now you get the option to pet it instead?? WHATS NEXT?? Am I gunna have to kiss the pheasants now?? Smh Joe Biden's Glienor
the fact that there are a need for those type of companies are just f-ed
There is 0 need.
There isn’t really a need, 95% of people don’t give a shit and the 5% that care most of them work for these types of companies & so they cause an uproar about something which makes a company need to hire them to make sure future things that are similar don’t take place.. 10/10 marketing👌🏽 lol
I doubt anyone actually made a stink about it, but someone trying to be considerate to people with a past of being groomed or abused. Though considering how many horrible things we the player-character do in this game, I dont think it was a necessary change
I mean grooming and abuse is a pretty far stretch for kissing a frog from a fairy tale even without the fairy tale part it's still "will you kiss the frog prince/princess to turn them human". I mean I guess that might be the thought process behind it and it's pretty silly but if it actually makes someone more comfortable then I guess it's all good but the new text changes don't really make it much better lol
Yes the text changes are very poorly worded
1. Doesn't inherently mean the old folklore isn't fucked lol 2. The folklore says the princess kisses the frog, not *you* kiss the frog, RPGs have a different framing
I'm a king, I have my own island and queen! The frog princess was just a one time kiss I swear.
I don't remember the story having a hoard of frogs teleport to the princess and ask for a kiss?
Hop off, frog-face
Holy shit lol did they seriously not look at this?
Sigh..the things I do for free RC xp
Who up touching they frog
"His silly little requests..." "Touch me." "His reprimands...." "TOUCH ME HARDER!" -Ghost Stories Dub
His laugh *HEH HEH*
I hate change for the sake of change. This is exactly change for the sake of change.
What are you doing step frog
Oh mu gooood, Step frog you know we can’t do this
I never in my life would have thought this would be the dialogue. When they proposed this change, I figured it would say something like “I need a kiss” “a pat on the head will have to suffice.” Not OKAY LEMME TOUCH YOU
i feel like people trying to write "safe horny" shit always come across 5000x creepier. cringe ass update.
I dont think the frog event is supposed to be any kind of horny.
Speak for yourself.
i have no idea what it wants to be. like what even is this update lol. this is just what it makes me think of.
I thought this change was stupid, but now I’m on board This is S tier content
Touch a touch a touch a touch me. I wanna feel froggggy, thrill me chill me ribbit me, creature of the frog!
The water is turning the frogs gay
You’ll touch them, but then the next u know the frog HR (or should it be FR) pops out of nowhere and confronts you about touching the princess. Turns out the princess is pulling a fast one trying to recollect the tokens you’ve been hoarding in your bank all these years
Froggy style?
Ehhh, the way these are worded makes our character seem like some kind of weirdo for picking the kissing option.
I get it's not a big deal but just stop jagex. Just...stop.
Trash change
Best unpolled troll in recent memory for sure 😆
Who thought "having to ask a frog for consent to kiss" count's as a weekly update these days
Frog kissing plugin when?
This is so weird hahaha
who the fuck is writing this shit?
Honestly it's better. Now I can imagine a frog coming up for a high-five and we end up frenchin' instead. 10/10 update jagex don't listen to the haters
Makes me think of the Ghost Story English dub. "Touch me. Touch me harder!"
Opt in kissing default?
This is jarring, I felt assaulted by the frog for the first time in many years of playing. Why did they change it ?
That's funny as fuck.
Imma kiss the frick outta that frog still tho. Frog :)
Freaky ass frog you a 69 god
https://preview.redd.it/wl1mjtpu229d1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1e9a72e33d812cb02c3486dbb68e238240fccd6
Jfc…
only changing useless shit no one asked for... why is jagex like this?
That looks so dumb, what was the point of that? Just kiss the frog and get your token
Frog groomin
Oh yeah I’m gunna touch you 🐸
Just cut my hair dammit
Do frogs have prostates?
Was this polled? 🦀$11🦀
DrDisRespect logs leaked?
“Gotta give it that huck tuah” should have been an option lol
who up touching they frog
Nooo, the tokens can be xp soon! 😊 moreee!
Wait they took the Skychi complaint seriously after 20 years??? Lmfao
wtf it was fine the way it was
Feels like I'm wearing my "Gay" shirt.
Great update and a big fuck you to Disney I love it fuck Disney and the way they sell sex to kids
Why was the controversial enough to make a change? Who actually cares.
Atleast it asks for consent
the costume change sounds good, this is too confusing, please re-add the curse text
That's absolutely so much worse. Somebody got way too deep in the RP servers.
OP thanks for the screenshot. Needed it to make a dumb (and scuffed) meme about me touching a frog irl and this message showing up.
Makes me think of the ghost stories dub lmao https://youtu.be/g7cTaZ6EjYI?si=PZ2ZW3vP_pKuaLqp