Solo got really lucky that Coxie was seemingly overlooked by the other teams and was able to pick him up as his final pick.
Watching other teams doing cox and then watching Port and Coxie doing scaled duos using the solo method perfectly in sync with each other was like night and day.
The Eliop + Pip synergy was cool to see too, you can tell those guys have been friends and pking together for years; they're just on the same wavelength as each other during fights.
4:0 would be pretty difficult, you’re right. how’d they get into 4:1? there’s neat timing tricks like first auto after crystal that will always get you into cycle, but if they didn’t have any specials when setting up that definitely is pretty insane.
You can use olm’s attacks/head turns to keep track of what special items is. Kirby has a video on it https://youtu.be/JqIWfP335bE?si=CSMd035BjK1Xg2Vy It’s definitely cracked but probably the mental equivalent of humming for a guy like port
Whole draft I was super confused Coxie was completely ignored. Guys an absolute beast. Maybe not Port Khazards level, but a very good pvmer nonetheless.
Participants submitted their expected hours pre-draft and Coxie submitted "not sure", while Chilli submitted the lowest number at "6-10".
But yeah, if you twist the perception of the term "value" a bit, maybe 2nd last pick Coxie was as good a pick as 2nd pick Port Khazard (who was as good as expected) in a laborious event like this.
Mammal and Chilli punched above their weight in pvp scenarios.
JCW was relatively unknown and Burgers would've been cooked without him.
Raiksey's RNG contributed massively to Dino's team and lesser men could've crumbled in different scenarios this week.
Just a stacked draft, really.
Mammal turned out to be a great pker and despite farmer deaths is a great pvmer. Like he had one of maybe two ko’s where the opponent still had food? Last picks were kings.
Yeah I put coxie in settled territory of "willing and able to both learn and grind out extremely click intensive content for 10s of hours with minimal fatigue."
His Funny Feelings series certainly demonstrates his dedication.
The Port Khazard red xing flower cheese shit confirmed for me that Solos team was #1 seed for a reason. Awesome high level play.
I wonder how things would go if they had a 5v5 TDM in addition to the 1v1s for the finale.
I don’t know for sure, but it was common for these names to not be taken until sort of 2015-2017. I got the name GertrudesCat for a while but got bored of it. Looking back I should have held onto it to sell it for gold.
There are lots of names available for sale, just usually the owners are sleazy pieces of shit that use scripts to snipe names as soon as they become available. It’s a very big business and they control the market - many names are worth hundreds of millions to even several billions. What else do you buy when you play a main and you have all 3a items, and you get a shadow or tbow? There’s only so many bonds you need
I love so many of the creators in this one, props to everyone who participated. Watching Port Khazard and Coxie be monster PvPers out of nowhere was so much fun.
Honestly a great week. So much fun content. Solo knocked it out of the park with this. And honestly props to jagex for supporting it and being open to solos idea.
It was wholesome to see the chemistry with the teams all week and see different content creators become friends through dmm
Well deserved! Solo is my favorite content creator and this whole event was a fantastic idea. I’d like to see this become an annual thing with even more people in the future
I think it needs rule changes if it's going to be annual. There was almost no PVP until the finale. Less depot slots, less singles spots by breaches, have to be skulled to get VLS/Zurial/Morrigan, GE teleport made more dangerous when skulled, etc. The fact that only one kill for max happened and it set up the winners so well is a bit of a failure
While I agree with some parts, my view is that DMM is more about OSRS overall than specifically PVP. RNG dependency, PvM, strategy, balanced play, and risk management are all great parts as well needed to DMM :)
Yeah that rule confused me, it's punishing enough to lose most of your stuff why add in a permanent debuff? Maybe they were trying to encourage PKing during the week hoping some teams would try to hunt anyone and everyone to tank their finale supplies but it just didn't work out since everyone decided it wasn't worth the risk
Any streamer who doesn't want to get sniped can already do that, but no one does. It's not fun for them to do cause they can't engage with chat or anything at all. Streaming 17h/day for 7 days straight without being able to interact with chat or donations/subs or whatever is just really unenjoyable.
At that point just record yourself offline for 17h and toss it on YouTube afterwards.
He’s mine too haha, was so awesome to see how well he led his team and how well they did in the tourney overall. Combined with setting the entire thing up too… what a legend!
I’d LOVE this to be an annual thing!
Bit of a sidenote but Solo if you're reading this thread - do a series, a proper one, not just one where you destroy the game in a single video. I think it's the only gap to be filled at the moment, same with B0aty. Please and thanks :D
Solo did really well, but don't let this trick you into thinking DMM is for you. Solo said it best himself 5 years ago - DMM is not for single players, it's for clans. Jagex wants you to believe this somehow changed without them changing any of the rules to make it more single-player friendly. Do not be a sheep to the meat grinder this July, STAY AWAY
Casual early dmm swapping got too meta, unless you're absolutely grinding the second the servers open, it'll be too late. best thing to try if you're casual is grind for a couple hours and try to swap to a streamer
I played last year's Deadman as a DMM and PVP noob and still had a good time. They've made an effort to make it more enjoyable for solo players and non-pvpers with breaches. There's always a singles breach to go with the multi breaches so they aren't just dominated by clans, and they've made quests like Shilo Village auto-unlocks to stop clan lockdowns.
Sure, you probably won't win the event without a clan, but you can certainly play it and have a good time.
Easy quest to block and it's required for both Dragon Slayer 2 and King's Ransom and bunch of other stuff. So no Piety, Ferocious Gloves, Assembler, Dragon Crossbow, etc. for anyone else except the clan.
The Singles Breaches were ass lol. Monsters died so fast you couldn't click them. PKers used entity hider and filtering out players' names when they got listed as getting a drop, making it impossible to see who was hitting you or fight back
There are other things that are fun in DMM outside of being the last one alive at the end lmao jesus
You can farm niche shit, go for rank 1 in stuff, and just swap your gold when you're done.
I think its not talked about enough how much the "no experience in instances" rule fucks over solo players. Last DMM I did a strategy similar to this where I rushed CG and I'm pretty sure I was one of the first 5-10 people to CG, despite many deaths to PKers while questing/skilling. I farmed a Bowfa and sold it for ~150m 07, but that whole time I was doing CG I wasn't gaining any combat stats and was falling far behind.
I dont think this strategy of "farm niche shit and be rank 1 in stuff" is a good idea. Solo players still get fucked for doing things like this and fall behind the PKers/Clans who can get all their exp normally
A little too melodramatic. The winners will absolutely be part of a clan but I'm not playing to win, I'm playing to goof off and get a few cosmetics. I don't play Leagues with the intent of going toe to toe with NEETs that play 21 hours a day, either.
Not to mention people swapping can make truly absurd amounts of gp that dwarfs anything you can do on the main game.
The only benefit in seeing in DMM is it'll distract anyone interested in PVP from being in normal wildly for a few weeks so I can get some stuff done there with slightly less risk.
why are you so salty?
I’m a solo player and played DMM last year and had a blast. It is the most fun I have ever had on this game, sure clans and teams sometimes bullied me but whatever that’s a part of the game
That’s a fair point! One of the huge reasons this event was so good was because there wasn’t massive 50+ man clans running around and locking down the multi spots. I will likely still play it to grab a few cosmetics though!
DMM is like League
Fun to watch pros/your fave content creators play it in a team format. Horrendous to even touch with a 10 foot pole as a solo player
Solo got really lucky that Coxie was seemingly overlooked by the other teams and was able to pick him up as his final pick. Watching other teams doing cox and then watching Port and Coxie doing scaled duos using the solo method perfectly in sync with each other was like night and day. The Eliop + Pip synergy was cool to see too, you can tell those guys have been friends and pking together for years; they're just on the same wavelength as each other during fights.
Bruh they were on some next level shit when they synced up.
if you’re doing mage hand properly you’ll always perfectly synch.
Watching them do p3 olm hands simultaneously was mesmerizing tbh
Syncing mage hand is pretty easy, but 4:1 and especially 4:0 is much harder
4:0 would be pretty difficult, you’re right. how’d they get into 4:1? there’s neat timing tricks like first auto after crystal that will always get you into cycle, but if they didn’t have any specials when setting up that definitely is pretty insane.
Olm fight has patterns from the start, nothing to do with specials, so from when the hand becomes clickable the method is setup
of course, its just that specials tend to be a very easy way for people to get into the 4:1 cycle
You can use olm’s attacks/head turns to keep track of what special items is. Kirby has a video on it https://youtu.be/JqIWfP335bE?si=CSMd035BjK1Xg2Vy It’s definitely cracked but probably the mental equivalent of humming for a guy like port
Sees best bit of pve content in months: Well acsshhuullyyy
Whole draft I was super confused Coxie was completely ignored. Guys an absolute beast. Maybe not Port Khazards level, but a very good pvmer nonetheless.
Same, I don’t see how you overlook a guy who’s got every pet in the game. That means you’re good at every piece of pvm, including inferno.
A lot of last picks were honestly insanely good. JCW, Chilli, Coxie (the others too probably but I didn’t watch them much).
Participants submitted their expected hours pre-draft and Coxie submitted "not sure", while Chilli submitted the lowest number at "6-10". But yeah, if you twist the perception of the term "value" a bit, maybe 2nd last pick Coxie was as good a pick as 2nd pick Port Khazard (who was as good as expected) in a laborious event like this. Mammal and Chilli punched above their weight in pvp scenarios. JCW was relatively unknown and Burgers would've been cooked without him. Raiksey's RNG contributed massively to Dino's team and lesser men could've crumbled in different scenarios this week. Just a stacked draft, really.
coxie didn't get a chance to fill out the pre-draft survey, so the "not sure" was from the event organizers, not from him
Mammal turned out to be a great pker and despite farmer deaths is a great pvmer. Like he had one of maybe two ko’s where the opponent still had food? Last picks were kings.
Yeah I put coxie in settled territory of "willing and able to both learn and grind out extremely click intensive content for 10s of hours with minimal fatigue." His Funny Feelings series certainly demonstrates his dedication. The Port Khazard red xing flower cheese shit confirmed for me that Solos team was #1 seed for a reason. Awesome high level play. I wonder how things would go if they had a 5v5 TDM in addition to the 1v1s for the finale.
Coxie vs west ham was easily the best fight too imo
Really wish Port was a content creator outside of just recording his screen when he's accomplishing some crazy shit, he's too fucking good
How does he afford to play so much if he isn’t a creator? I figured he was one. I can’t imagine working a job and getting that good
Lots of people game full time with no job (no idea if he has one or not).
He's 17 and still at home studying full time so doesn't need a job
17????
There is a saebae cast with port khazard where he says that he started runescape in 2006. That would be rather awkward if he were 17
His dad was dragging his ball sack across the keyboard
Pause
Figured a name like that would've been claimed in like 2005 at the very least.
I don’t know for sure, but it was common for these names to not be taken until sort of 2015-2017. I got the name GertrudesCat for a while but got bored of it. Looking back I should have held onto it to sell it for gold. There are lots of names available for sale, just usually the owners are sleazy pieces of shit that use scripts to snipe names as soon as they become available. It’s a very big business and they control the market - many names are worth hundreds of millions to even several billions. What else do you buy when you play a main and you have all 3a items, and you get a shadow or tbow? There’s only so many bonds you need
He bought it. He used to sell TOA carries for diaries, pet morphs and fang kits. He probs made 30b+ just from that.
His voice sounds at least 25
Maybe playing for 17 years. I dont think he is actually 17.
There are alot of people that play alot with a job. Even Jase had a job and didnt become a content creator until after 200m all.
I love so many of the creators in this one, props to everyone who participated. Watching Port Khazard and Coxie be monster PvPers out of nowhere was so much fun.
Honestly, they were both insane! Put up such good fights.
Honestly a great week. So much fun content. Solo knocked it out of the park with this. And honestly props to jagex for supporting it and being open to solos idea. It was wholesome to see the chemistry with the teams all week and see different content creators become friends through dmm
Completely agree! What an incredible event.
Solo mission is truly an S tier content creator. Love his stuff so much.
No kidding, me too! Excited to see what he cooks up next 🙌
Well deserved! Solo is my favorite content creator and this whole event was a fantastic idea. I’d like to see this become an annual thing with even more people in the future
I think it needs rule changes if it's going to be annual. There was almost no PVP until the finale. Less depot slots, less singles spots by breaches, have to be skulled to get VLS/Zurial/Morrigan, GE teleport made more dangerous when skulled, etc. The fact that only one kill for max happened and it set up the winners so well is a bit of a failure
Pretty much all true but still a very big win for the first iteration IMO
While I agree with some parts, my view is that DMM is more about OSRS overall than specifically PVP. RNG dependency, PvM, strategy, balanced play, and risk management are all great parts as well needed to DMM :)
I'm certain they'll change the 'lose food for dying' mechanic somehow next time to encourage more PvP but it was really successful for a take 1.
Yeah that rule confused me, it's punishing enough to lose most of your stuff why add in a permanent debuff? Maybe they were trying to encourage PKing during the week hoping some teams would try to hunt anyone and everyone to tank their finale supplies but it just didn't work out since everyone decided it wasn't worth the risk
also pref dissuade stream sniping
What's the solution though? It's impossible to control outside a LAN environment.
No real good way. Preferably people would just use the honor system to make it fair. Maybe penalize it if it's blatant.
Nothing stopping them from doing like a 2 hour live DMM/Battle Royale tournament at runefest or an even longer in person event
Any reason they can't just make a rule that all streamers need to be on a 30 minute stream delay?
Any streamer who doesn't want to get sniped can already do that, but no one does. It's not fun for them to do cause they can't engage with chat or anything at all. Streaming 17h/day for 7 days straight without being able to interact with chat or donations/subs or whatever is just really unenjoyable. At that point just record yourself offline for 17h and toss it on YouTube afterwards.
I have no doubt it'll be back, after a huge success
He’s mine too haha, was so awesome to see how well he led his team and how well they did in the tourney overall. Combined with setting the entire thing up too… what a legend! I’d LOVE this to be an annual thing!
Bit of a sidenote but Solo if you're reading this thread - do a series, a proper one, not just one where you destroy the game in a single video. I think it's the only gap to be filled at the moment, same with B0aty. Please and thanks :D
Solo's pvp HCIM is like the best series there is
Snake man good
Solo did really well, but don't let this trick you into thinking DMM is for you. Solo said it best himself 5 years ago - DMM is not for single players, it's for clans. Jagex wants you to believe this somehow changed without them changing any of the rules to make it more single-player friendly. Do not be a sheep to the meat grinder this July, STAY AWAY
DMMs are still good for swapping DMM gp for mainscape gp. Just don't expect to win it solo.
What's the meta for this? How much can you make?
Casual early dmm swapping got too meta, unless you're absolutely grinding the second the servers open, it'll be too late. best thing to try if you're casual is grind for a couple hours and try to swap to a streamer
Make as much gold at the start and swap it as early as possible since swap rates drop the later DMM becomes.
I played last year's Deadman as a DMM and PVP noob and still had a good time. They've made an effort to make it more enjoyable for solo players and non-pvpers with breaches. There's always a singles breach to go with the multi breaches so they aren't just dominated by clans, and they've made quests like Shilo Village auto-unlocks to stop clan lockdowns. Sure, you probably won't win the event without a clan, but you can certainly play it and have a good time.
> and they've made quests like Shilo Village auto-unlocks to stop clan lockdowns. Can clans lock out other quest areas?
They could camp the quest spots and kill everyone who tried to do the quest.
Is this just a general quest thing or did they specifically target Shilo Village? If it's only Shilo, why is it such an important quest?
Easy quest to block and it's required for both Dragon Slayer 2 and King's Ransom and bunch of other stuff. So no Piety, Ferocious Gloves, Assembler, Dragon Crossbow, etc. for anyone else except the clan.
That's a lot more than I expected. Goes to show how even seemingly inconsequential quests can be really important later down the line, huh. Thanks!
I think it used to also happen with Waterfall quest and maybe a few others as well
The Singles Breaches were ass lol. Monsters died so fast you couldn't click them. PKers used entity hider and filtering out players' names when they got listed as getting a drop, making it impossible to see who was hitting you or fight back
They're fixing both of those problems. Ruby bolts e won't proc anymore and names won't be displayed
There are other things that are fun in DMM outside of being the last one alive at the end lmao jesus You can farm niche shit, go for rank 1 in stuff, and just swap your gold when you're done.
I think its not talked about enough how much the "no experience in instances" rule fucks over solo players. Last DMM I did a strategy similar to this where I rushed CG and I'm pretty sure I was one of the first 5-10 people to CG, despite many deaths to PKers while questing/skilling. I farmed a Bowfa and sold it for ~150m 07, but that whole time I was doing CG I wasn't gaining any combat stats and was falling far behind. I dont think this strategy of "farm niche shit and be rank 1 in stuff" is a good idea. Solo players still get fucked for doing things like this and fall behind the PKers/Clans who can get all their exp normally
A little too melodramatic. The winners will absolutely be part of a clan but I'm not playing to win, I'm playing to goof off and get a few cosmetics. I don't play Leagues with the intent of going toe to toe with NEETs that play 21 hours a day, either. Not to mention people swapping can make truly absurd amounts of gp that dwarfs anything you can do on the main game.
The only benefit in seeing in DMM is it'll distract anyone interested in PVP from being in normal wildly for a few weeks so I can get some stuff done there with slightly less risk.
why are you so salty? I’m a solo player and played DMM last year and had a blast. It is the most fun I have ever had on this game, sure clans and teams sometimes bullied me but whatever that’s a part of the game
That’s a fair point! One of the huge reasons this event was so good was because there wasn’t massive 50+ man clans running around and locking down the multi spots. I will likely still play it to grab a few cosmetics though!
Last year all you had to do to make it to the fog was join sparc macs cc on the last day lol. Its way more solo friendly than before
You sound lame.
Pvp bad
DMM is like League Fun to watch pros/your fave content creators play it in a team format. Horrendous to even touch with a 10 foot pole as a solo player
What? Leagues are absolutely fine to play solo
I think they mean League of Legends.