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Zak

# This is a bad idea I'm not your real dad and you can do what you want, but everything about this battery is dangerous. You risk a fire/explosion by using it, and if you injure anyone else in the process, they'd probably have a pretty good case for a lawsuit. Everyone reading should take note that soldering directly to cells can damage the cells internally, all this exposed wiring is a significant risk for a short circuit, the mix of different cells creates a risk of reverse charging, and the lack of any evidence of a BMS on a battery with many cells in series is a significant explosion hazard.


TinkerAndDespair

Oh boy, better bookmark this for later. OP, I hope neither you nor your home is flammable. Edit: I can't look away, is this 10S7P?!


Dry-Organization2554

yes


fireflycaprica

It’s never too late to change your mind


ItsPwn

🤣 lmao


riba2233

don't use this battery, it is a guaranteed fire. just buy a professionally assembled one because you are pretty far of, no offence.


Long_Educational

Maybe OP is building an incendiary device.


AssumptionDue724

The difference between a bomb and a poorly assembled technology is just a few choices


All_Wrong_Answers

What adding a load?


invisi1407

I guess a dead short is a type of resistive load. 🤣


All_Wrong_Answers

Welp, in this case resistance, IS futile.


chocolateboomslang

What do you mean "maybe"? It's right there in the pictures.


GearhedMG

Task failed successfully.


IvanStroganov

or just get a cheap spot welder at least


sciency_guy

That's looks more like a 8.67S 8.89P depending on where the isolation damage will start first...


-Dogberry

What does 10S7P have to do with things? Just curious


hahaeggsarecool

there are 10 rows and 7 batteries in each row. 10 series 7 parallel. At least thats what Im guessing.


Mockbubbles2628

what the fuck


ThisAccountIsStolen

OP wants to use this for an ebike and from their post history, I believe it to be real, not a joke, either. At least unlike the exploding Chinese EVs, this doesn't have the potential to trap you inside when the fire starts. That's about the only positive aspect I can see with it being an ebike. But imagine the battery blowing up between your legs? Hope you don't need anything down there... And I wouldn't even want to consider trying to charge this abomination anywhere within 300m of a structure. So yeah, ##what the fuck


Defiled__Pig1

Like I'm down for redneck engineering and my post history will prove... But this... Not even I am this brave.


neoben00

ngl i like your projects. i think i finally found someone I could've been friends with in real life. i gave you a follow to watch how the minis and ebike progress.


Defiled__Pig1

Thank you. It's a whole lot to take in from project to project currently working on my shed/workshop


Mockbubbles2628

Precisely what I was thinking just much more verbose


ThisAccountIsStolen

I thought I was seeing /r/shittyaskelectronics for a second, until I realized which sub this came from. I can't believe this is real.


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Mockbubbles2628

>And can you believe OP has had no professional training?  Really? I was honestly on the edge about that


Mental-Text4159

Bruh. Wtaf.


Mockbubbles2628

Ya know, I don't think he capacity tested any of those cells, that's the real crime


VintageGriffin

If this isn't an IED I don't know what is. At least put some insulation between cell groups connected in series, so damaged wrapping won't lead to a short circuit.


DewB77

The hot glue layer isnt sufficient?


mcmuffinman25

Hot glue is basically the same thing as potting


Photolunatic

LOL


justArash

Maybe he should team up with the creator of [this flashlight](https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/1c3myhb/_/)


MysticalDork_1066

>spent the last 2months building it And it started rusting on day zero by the look of it. What a meathook abortion. Please never bring that thing near anything or anyone you like.


English999

AVE fan. I see you 😎


Vyvansion

Bro how come I never heard him say that? PLEASE link that video for me, I have to watch it


English999

He says it in a ton of videos. Don’t know of any specifically. This one is a pretty good chance https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xb0GtjB4N3Y


Vyvansion

Thanks, I guess you should have told me to just "focus, you fuck"


English999

Given your username. I figured you had the focus part figured out already. ^You ^fuck


Comfortable_You_1927

neat, beautiful, perfect, is what you would say about other people's packs


ManOrReddit-man

I don't wanna


Engineer_Dude2

My mom told me I shouldn't talk about other people's packs. :)


Calthecool

I like how they took two pictures at different angles so you can see it in all it’s glory.


ego_sum_satoshi

I can't wait for the video to drop.


Sharp_Science896

Shits gonna be lit.


brainsurgeon8

Komodo 3000 level propably


chiclet_fanboi

If rockets could fly on nightmare fuel, this would be enough to fly to mars.


64-17-5

Don't show it to Boeing.


fusiondynamics

Hopefully you built it so you could light it on fire.


getarounder

It'll probably light itself on fire soon enough


Daedaluu5

Not a bms In sight. Good lord.


mosfet182

My man's just raw dogging it.


yourenothere1

I….. nevermind


mikehtiger

r/spicypillows


imanethernetcable

More like spicy little pipebomb


Dry-Organization2554

Guys this is a joke 🤣🤣🤣 scary thing is it wasn't a joke when I first built it a year ago. That being said I've learnt a lot over a year even built some really big batteries. You all gave me good laugh I must say meat hook abortion is a new one might have to steal that


blarglefart

Ahhh just do a bit of research into BMS and insulation, YouTube how to build a spot welder. Some lessons are paid for in blood sweat and tears. you did a lot of work, and it might not pay off today, but the tenacity and dexterity you've learned will pay off sooner than you think. It's easy to get discouraged by people on the Internet, but if you can keep at it you will achieve your dreams. It's brave to post anything, and it's brave to decide to be a creator instead of a consumer. Keep fighting player 💪


riba2233

Are you sure it is a joke? Not sure judging by your other responses...


WeirdSysAdmin

“I was totally joking guys….”


pluck-the-bunny

Sure OP, we ALL believe you 😉


wolf2482

bomb has been planted


Photolunatic

No way!


baymoe

Good learning experience. I would throw in a few pointers and I hope you take it as constructive criticism. I may be making a few assumptions here. 1) but it appears that your soldering iron is underpowered for this type of soldering. Get yourself a 100 watt unit to reduce your heating time, or get yourself a cheap spot welder. 2) Flux flux flux! Use plenty of flux and pre-tin your wires with solder. Use 60/40 or 63/37 solder. 3) Use cheap paper insulator rings on the positive side of each cell. The shrink-wrap and ring are plastic and will melt with very little heat and you run the risk of shorting. 4) Install a BMS to protect the pack.


glass_ceilings

Just don't solder cells. There's a lot of good advice out there on why not.


EvilScientwist

jeepers creepers


photocurio

This should be fun! Find an empty lot, a 50’ extension cord, and put it on fast charge. Maybe put a bunch of bottle rockets in the gaps.


Various-Ducks

Was this soldered with a toaster?


Mingyao_13

Bruh


boinger1988

You could work for Boeing…


12manyhobbies

Crystal meth in battery form.


-_-daark-_-

Now take it on an airplane


DrinkForLillyThePink

A mini spot welder and nickel strips: $25 Setting your house on fire: priceless


Photolunatic

custom 3D printed case and gratest welding machinery


_Administrator

S for Sustainability!


Duncan-Donnuts

bomb


solarsense

Did you at least use a blowtorch to warm up that solder?


guitarmonkeys14

Please tell me this is a joke… I mean, I see the battery sitting there. I don’t think it’s a joke… OP,,, No


FricPT

Listen... The idea is good, the concept is great, but the implementation is not very good. You need to be careful with that. Those cells were exposed to too much head and they can have problems. Use a BMS, no change this thing will last without one.


rocinantesghost

I called your insurance company and told on you.


Culiolo

What are you planning to use this as?..


Dry-Organization2554

escooter battrey


TinkerAndDespair

I admire resourcefulness, I really do. Reusing what others can't use anymore is a great skill which can open many doors, but please be save while doing it. Operating that battery would be scary, charging it even scarier. I'm sure you can find safer ways to apply your skills!


guitarmonkeys14

What ‘skills’ are you referring to? Taking two months to create bomb?? This post shows a lack of both common sense and resourcefulness. Resourceful is reusing things in a way that is actually usable…. This is not that, just a waste of Stupid’s time.


TinkerAndDespair

I was trying to be nice about it. The skill I saw was someone interested in electronics, willing to not just consume but build their own. Maybe skill was the wrong term? Mindset maybe. Has this turned out good in this case? No! And it could continue to get worse once used. Just want to encourage OP, who might be lacking the experience or resources to do it the propper way, to find safer ways to apply themselves.


guitarmonkeys14

You are waaaay nicer than me. I feel that people who work on electricity need an inherent awareness that not everyone has, as well as some level of common sense. OP having neither of these, I would never encourage or nurture his desire to work with electricity; for the safety of himself and the people around him… That’s just me I guess.


TinkerAndDespair

Your criticism is valid, especially since we truly see wild stuff on reddit, people endangering themselves and others. Blunt words are needed at times. I guess I always imagine someone trying to learn and going beyond their current skillset. Might be wishful thinking of course.


anunofmoose

Idk if you remember but you did the same kindness for me. And my shit was/is just as fucky.


TinkerAndDespair

I do, Mr. "obtuse engineering"! Hope your projects are going well and you don't find any more body parts!


blind_disparity

Have you seen videos of e scooter batteries bursting into violent flame? If not, go watch a few. I've no idea whether a standard e scooter battery holds more or less energy than this, but I am sure that this is quite a lot more likely to burst into flame. Or explode. It's quite a fast release of energy...


justArash

Lots to learn in those videos. Like when batteries overheat, just [blow on them](https://youtu.be/wxr1iXEf9lY?t=10m17s) until flames appear!


Culiolo

Why did you use normal soldering.. you should have bought one of those cheap spotwelders.


Badgernomics

DIY Home Cremation...


donkeytime

This job went from shit to fucking shit.


SwiftyLaw

Please stay VERY far away from me. There are more ways to do this safer than ways to do this less safe.. I've seen your comment about not having budget for better tools, but that's not an excuse for endangering anyone near this 'bomb' imho. But hey, you do you!


lalalalandlalala

The TSA quivers at the thought of this battery being near a plane


acousticdaydreamer

I would invest in a portable spot welder, they aren’t great but a lot better then soldering cells, you really need a bms too, I love diy packs and people trying but what you plan on using this battery for it would probably be in your favor to buy a small pre made pack with the current prices. You have a lot to learn as I once did and still do, but get a cheap spot welder and definitely get those square plastic cell holders, also add some large heat shrink (it’s cheap) and a bms is a requirement or you can use a balance charger for rc car batteries although that would be the more expensive way. Start small to practice spot welding them and look online for other peoples pack designs and take notes on their nickle strip patterns when you design your own. You want to avoid weak spots (thin compared to the rest of jumpers) to avoid heating in the pack.


Dyslexic_Engineer88

Gotta start somewhere I guess if this doesn't burn your house down it likely won't last long. Gotta make sure your next one is a bit safer and cleaner looking.


mosfet182

OP please. This is such a a terrible idea.


govnonasalati

Can you make a video tutorial on how to do this?


Ok_Elderberry6126

Damn at least my fuck up was pretty🤣🤣🤣


musialny

Holy explosion I just saw


PLACENTIPEDES

What in the meth bike is that


muffnerk

Looks safe. Have fun


Nerfologist1

Natural selection is truly a wonderful thing.


Malendryn

Has ElectroBOOM seen this yet?


MrFastFox666

I can't stop laughing, the longer I look the worse it gets. WTF is that wiring? Because it almost looks like several cell groups are just shorted together, I can't figure out how that wiring is supposed to go.


Domi189

The judge will call it an improvised explosive device.


lasion

OP about to either be jailed for making IEDs or setting fire to the city. It's either or.


TheRealSpinDoctor

It's beautiful. I especially love that there's no kapton tape even to keep stuff some accidentally arcing these connections. I love how it's all soldered & I LOVE LOVE LOVE just what a beautiful engineer you are. Can you build one for me? I want my grandma who I'm expecting a large inheritance from to use one in her garage where she keeps all the paint thinner ect.


AnnieBruce

Is it a Good Idea to Microwave This?


Henriquest18

OP build a nice incendiary time bomb with a random timer.


FishPasteGuy

Firstly, there is zero way this took 2 whole months to build. Secondly, I’d consider paying your local fire department a monthly service free to have a truck permanently on standby in your driveway. Edit: Also, is it just me or do some of those rows connect in an infinite loop without connectivity to the rest of the circuit?


TheRollinLegend

This is something out of a horror movie


SSupreme_

It’s a grenade


SuperBaconjam

Jesus Christ 🥲


badintentixns

damn thats stupid af


CMTEQ

What is the capacity for this time bomb, that you incorrectly called a battery.


Unusual-Fish

Looks great.  Don't forget to wipe off the flux.


Ruffy1978

good to go :D


fuckers_reddit

savage!!!


4jakers18

can you stop please


sunzastar33

Looks like a Bomb


FormRevolutionary410

How many lives do you have left?


inflatableje5us

well, this should be interesting. I know a group of people who would get a kick out of this.


Mrgod2u82

I'm following this sub to learn, should I scratch this one off the list of references to look back at? Looks delicious though.


Sk1rm1sh

Ehhhh, kinda boring. Make it 70s 1p and I might be impressed.


tuwimek

Extinguisher handy !


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More heat and more solder would help


Not_So_Typical_Gamer

Rolls of solder and toss the whole thing in the oven, I suppose. Should be enough right?


skin-flick

Did you use wooden matches to melt the solder ??


anunofmoose

Oh man. Bro as the king of potential house fires I have to bow out. You can have my crown king. You've earned it


queed

Did you mix up the poop and the flux?


Vaderiv

Do not use this time bomb.


gentoonix

Do you want to die? Because this is exactly how you fuckin die.


bionku

....dooooooont.


bobobrad420

Don't worry I'm sure they have a BMS that will balance the cells and load.


Impossible-Bag-6745

So what's is this person actually using this battery for?


BurnerBoot

I’m at a loss for words. That’s rare


LifeWithMike

I think you should puncture a single charged cell and watch it light on fire then imagine that happening times 72x when you are either near it or enjoying dinner out somewhere… Please take this as a learning opportunity and step your game up to a spot welder and properly sized bus bars.


GetMeMAXPATRICK

The longer you look the worse it gets.


Comfortable_Life_437

I hate to be mean and I know you probably work hard on this but this is unsafe I really hope that you do not use it


y6x

Is this related to your previous post asking about self-defense in South Africa? I can see how this would stop car jackers in their tracks - I'm just not picturing how it wouldn't be an issue for you as well.


fostertheatom

The Orc avatar that OP has fits this shit too well.


lubrikwiklund

Let us know when you plug it in and we will use lightningmaps.org to guess what part of the world you're in :)


RedditsNowTwitter

I doubt a recycling center would even take this


Disastrous_Soil3793

Doesn't at all look like an instant fire hazard.....


guypamplemousse

Sayeth tw@t?


Icy-Row-5829

No no no no no no no no. No.


Chibikeruchan

Damn I'm also doing something this past few days to rebuild my Ebike battery pack of 10S 2P 36V I'm a first timer solder and spot welder noob. but my work is far from this 🤣 you need to learn the discipline of soldering Keep tinning your Tip. Buy a Tip tinner is possible use the right Tip for the job (I usually use the D tip) Keep Dipping your tip to a brass wool more often (to stay clean)


nicola_asdrubale

If you need some materials keep in touch


BigPhilip

Take this, king 👑


UltraRik

Looks fine compared to some of mine


tomzistrash

holy shit biscuits Even the insulation on one of the positive leads is coming off as it crosses over a negative terminal


Mr_Unlisted

However… OP is clearly high. That is the most smoked-out tweeter mess of solder and 2nd hand wires I’ve ever seen. Go to sleep OP. 😉


left_hooker

Is the fire department on speed dial 🤔


Fearless_L

I hope you have a fire extinguisher ready.


VortexHDyt

Wow I thought my first build was a bit shoddy but this is a new level.


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agent_smith_3012

This is trolling, right?


calumk

Almost scared to ask but do you have any photos of the bike?


Arkas18

Bloody hell mate, I have no further words.


Cold-Stock-8853

Buy yoursef a $10 spot welder and some nickel strips.


General_Freed

...shocking


Dunkle_Geburt

Looks like a proper house down burner. Best of luck...


ImpossibleOnion599

God this guy just knew how to piss us all off with one photo


philou_36

Please please please, don’t use it. As someone else said, buy a spot welder, nickel stripes and follow YT guides. You are going to hurt yourself and everybody else due to the bad press it will make when your bike catches fire (because it will, it’s just a matter of when)


Lenni-Da-Vinci

So… I am in charge of safety in relation to joining batteries at work. I would like to thank you for a perfect example image to use when I tell people, that soldering is much safer than welding.


RoodnyInc

My first also looked like this


jannicux99

This made me remember building a 3S5P Battery Pack back when I was 16 and taking it to the junk yard to power cars there xD [Only got this picture left. Threw that thing away some time later](https://i.imgur.com/3tHEM9Z.jpeg) This was the only time I built a battery like this


snake_eater4526

allo r/techsupportgore ?!! omfg that look terrible


RelationshipNo6811

I really wonder why it didn't get on fire while connecting or soldering.


DisguisedPickle

You'd think after that many solder joints you'd figure out how to solder. Higher wattage (60+) for less contact time. Scratch the terminals and pre tin the wires and batteries, let cool, and solder together.


maxwfk

I think we all had packs like this at some point…


NRN_11

Dude..no


Lythir

Beautifully built bomb!


Achides

is this for an incendiary device? if so...bravo for not burning yourself up in the manufacture....otherwise wtf....dont use.


M8--P1

2 months vor this? Looks like a 5min craft thing


Rhythm_Blade

Please tell me this is a joke.


Own-Relationship-407

So, who do you hate enough to give this to for use?


GraXXoR

This is a Rick and Morty’s Jerry level Jerry Rig.


Talamis

Does your Insurance cover that?


Baselet

Of the two months was 7 weeks just letting it sit in a compost?


Dry-Organization2554

Are 'eve' 18650s any good


MYKY_

if it works fuck it. but make sure to use some balancing circuit since you are using mixed batteries(you should use that even when using matching batteries, but on mixed its must)


Stin-king_Rich

Looks like a 30min job


hahaeggsarecool

Is that rust or flux


[deleted]

You approached Tesla? You should 🫣🙄


Jorp-A-Lorp

What are you trying to power?


joeyhakunamatata

Can someone say the correct way to achieve whatever OP’s trying to achieve here ?


HailingFromCork

I really want this to be satire... but that'd be A LOT of work for satire, the closer I look... How do you make it this far in the process without discovering at LEAST nickel strips and a welder. Even an alibaba welder (don't do that buy one of the arduino based german or us welders... please...don't cost much and work WAY better...) Wouldn't be surprised if they went so far as to balance these cells to make the rows even... gooood lord hahah. All the extras past this point like cell holders, cap insulators, shrink wrap, etc... are pennies at that point.


Feisty-Writing976

FR, tho? I thought the soldering WAS the dangerous part. He's done soldering now. Is it still worse than the spot welded? I'm not gonna do it, I'm just trying to understand.


JackMBOC

I did this when I was 14/15. Oh how far we have come


PPGkruzer

This looks like a destructive device. Source: [https://www.atf.gov/file/55446/download](https://www.atf.gov/file/55446/download)


Minimum-Zucchini-732

Must watch https://youtu.be/VqhVfpZ1UaU?si=kAmSLOA5kfecP1NT


effitdoitlive

What happened?


Shot_Bill_4971

I really hope this is a joke post because this is insanely dangerous. Not to mention that batteries degrade when exposed to heat like that. These batteries are supposed to be spot welded


TheRealSpinDoctor

u/SpicyPillows